Obama.. Are you aware more whites are shot by cops then BLACKS??

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Obama Defends Kaepernick: "Maybe Some Of His Critics Will Start Seeing That He Has a Point"

What kind of IGNORANCE does Obama have because I can excuse Kaepernick... he's a dumb JOCK!

Mapping Police Violence, tracks killings starting January 1, 2013 and conducts analyses and visualizations examining rates of killings by police department, city, state, and national trends over time.
Mapping Police Violence found 1,209 people killed by police in 2015,
including 346 black people and 102 unarmed black people.

Again backing up the above statistic that for every one black 3 whites were killed by cops!

Now another myth that Kaepernick believes:
Unarmed blacks killed more then WHITES by cops!
Using 346 of the 1,209 killed in 2015 being black or 28% of the people killed by cops
1 out of 3 blacks were unarmed!
Again.. dig deeper on your own please!
This is what idiots repeating the same myths don't seem to understand!
IT is a myth! More Whites are killed by Cops then Blacks!
The simple fact is more crime is committed by blacks as a percent of the USA population!
Finally why can't Obama/Kaepernick be a little more knowledgeable
LIKE THIS BLACK economics Harvard professor!

– FACT: Despite the fact that black people commit an equal or greater number of violent crimes than whites, whites are almost TWICE as likely to be killed by police officers.
According to data from the Centers for Disease Control, between 1999 and 2011,
2,151 whites died as a result of being shot by police compared to 1,130 blacks.

A study by a BLACK Harvard professor released this month found no evidence of racial bias in police shootings even though officers were more likely to interact physically with non-whites than whites.
The paper for the National Bureau of Economic Research, which examined thousands of incidents at 10 large police departments in California, Florida and Texas, concluded that police were no more likely to shoot non-whites than whites after factoring in extenuating circumstances.

“On the most extreme use of force — officer-involved shootings — we find no racial differences in either the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account,” said Harvard economics professor Roland G. Fryer Jr. in the abstract of the July 2016 paper.
Mr. Fryer, who is black, told The New York Times that the finding of no racial discrimination in police shootings was “the most surprising result of my career.”
No racial bias in police shootings, study by Harvard professor shows

So Obama/Kaepernick... why are you perpetuating this gigantic LIE??? What are you gaining?
 
Hmm.....I find two compelling statements in the conclusion that is rarely ever discussed. Even though forums such as these often make note of the high crime rates associated with black on black crime, those who drive debate in this country ignore it.

Even when officers report civilians have been compliant and no arrest was made, blacks are 21.3 (0.04) percent more likely to endure some form of force. Yet, on the most extreme use of force – officer-involved shootings – we are unable to detect any racial differences in either the raw data or when accounting for controls.

Take note of the percentage of blacks who force escalation used against them based upon their race. Four tenths of one-percent. Statistically insignificant.

It is plausible that racial differences in lower level uses of force are simply a distraction and movements such as Black Lives Matter should seek solutions within their own communities rather than changing the behaviors of police and other external forces.

A damning statement and one that will be ignored by the media outlets.

The last sentence is the best one...

Black Dignity Matters.
 
Obama Defends Kaepernick: "Maybe Some Of His Critics Will Start Seeing That He Has a Point"

What kind of IGNORANCE does Obama have because I can excuse Kaepernick... he's a dumb JOCK!

Mapping Police Violence, tracks killings starting January 1, 2013 and conducts analyses and visualizations examining rates of killings by police department, city, state, and national trends over time.
Mapping Police Violence found 1,209 people killed by police in 2015,
including 346 black people and 102 unarmed black people.

Again backing up the above statistic that for every one black 3 whites were killed by cops!

Now another myth that Kaepernick believes:
Unarmed blacks killed more then WHITES by cops!
Using 346 of the 1,209 killed in 2015 being black or 28% of the people killed by cops
1 out of 3 blacks were unarmed!
Again.. dig deeper on your own please!
This is what idiots repeating the same myths don't seem to understand!
IT is a myth! More Whites are killed by Cops then Blacks!
The simple fact is more crime is committed by blacks as a percent of the USA population!
Finally why can't Obama/Kaepernick be a little more knowledgeable
LIKE THIS BLACK economics Harvard professor!

– FACT: Despite the fact that black people commit an equal or greater number of violent crimes than whites, whites are almost TWICE as likely to be killed by police officers.
According to data from the Centers for Disease Control, between 1999 and 2011,
2,151 whites died as a result of being shot by police compared to 1,130 blacks.

A study by a BLACK Harvard professor released this month found no evidence of racial bias in police shootings even though officers were more likely to interact physically with non-whites than whites.
The paper for the National Bureau of Economic Research, which examined thousands of incidents at 10 large police departments in California, Florida and Texas, concluded that police were no more likely to shoot non-whites than whites after factoring in extenuating circumstances.

“On the most extreme use of force — officer-involved shootings — we find no racial differences in either the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account,” said Harvard economics professor Roland G. Fryer Jr. in the abstract of the July 2016 paper.
Mr. Fryer, who is black, told The New York Times that the finding of no racial discrimination in police shootings was “the most surprising result of my career.”
No racial bias in police shootings, study by Harvard professor shows

So Obama/Kaepernick... why are you perpetuating this gigantic LIE??? What are you gaining?

Also Obama/Kaepernick...
What group that constitutes less then 14% of Americans commits 22.4% of Violent crimes???
BLACKS! Almost 1/4th of all crimes by Blacks YET they are less then 14% of population.
Wouldn't that have some relationship with the number of blacks shot by Cops???
New DOJ Statistics on Race and Violent Crime
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The black community is very overwhelmed and appreciative of your concern and support, I’m sure of it.
 
Hmm.....I find two compelling statements in the conclusion that is rarely ever discussed. Even though forums such as these often make note of the high crime rates associated with black on black crime, those who drive debate in this country ignore it.

Even when officers report civilians have been compliant and no arrest was made, blacks are 21.3 (0.04) percent more likely to endure some form of force. Yet, on the most extreme use of force – officer-involved shootings – we are unable to detect any racial differences in either the raw data or when accounting for controls.

Take note of the percentage of blacks who force escalation used against them based upon their race. Four tenths of one-percent. Statistically insignificant.

It is plausible that racial differences in lower level uses of force are simply a distraction and movements such as Black Lives Matter should seek solutions within their own communities rather than changing the behaviors of police and other external forces.

A damning statement and one that will be ignored by the media outlets.

The last sentence is the best one...

Black Dignity Matters.

What it comes down to is very clearly described by Chris Rock's video and then the comprehension by Obama/Kaepernick of these statistics.

Chris Rock is telling blacks who never had fathers to give them the "talk".
Chris Rock - How not to get your ass kicked by the police!


68% of black households have only a female to give their sons the "talk"... i.e. the concept of a "father authority figure".... so once the young black man gets
stopped here is the reaction similar to what Obama told us regarding his perception of cops again... because he was in a fatherless household!
Remember folks... Obama truly believes our criminal justice system is wrong more often then right and he has said so in his disdain for the police.
Any wonder then that when police stop a non-white person like Obama's friend Pablo as Obama described in his autobiography, "Dreams from My Father"... published July 18,1995 page 94 -95..
"That's what Pablo had lacked, mostly, not having his driver's license that day, a cop with nothing better to do than to check the trunk of his car.. "
So Obama critical of the police "nothing better to do.." shows very early his disdain for law and order.
It is no wonder then he has commuted more criminals then the past six presidents COMBINED!

The truth is that black female-headed households were just 18 percent of households in 1950,
as opposed to about 68 percent today.
In fact, from 1890 to 1940, the black marriage rate was slightly higher than that of whites. Even during slavery, when marriage was forbidden for blacks, most black children lived in biological two-parent families.
In New York City, in 1925, 85 percent of black households were two-parent households.
A study of 1880 family structure in Philadelphia shows that three-quarters of black families were two-parent households."
Black female head of households number is 68 percent
 
Using bias law enforcement stats to prove there's no bias ?
 
It is so simple!
A two parent family has the best of both sexes.
A father figure to in most cases show the young man how to respect elders, police, others and the mother to provide the nurturing, etc. that mothers can do best!
But when 68% of black households DON"T have that Father figure to help the young black man understand i.e. the "TALK" that my dad and millions of other dads
in two parent families have done that inculcates the respect for authority figures and hence the absence of violent encounters.
Again see Rock's video and then you will understand what is missing!
 
Using bias law enforcement stats to prove there's no bias ?

OK you come up with "UNBIASED" statistics! Not one-offs, not anecdotal but pure statistics regarding violent crimes, fatherless households.
Note the chart shows black on black violent crimes had 62.2% by a black on black! All the other categories White on white 56% Hispanic 38% by other Hispanics..
Seems Blacks with 14% of the population does most damage to fellow blacks!
So again come up with honest and voluminous statistics such as what I've provided and present them.
Truly want to see your results!
 
Obama Defends Kaepernick: "Maybe Some Of His Critics Will Start Seeing That He Has a Point"

What kind of IGNORANCE does Obama have because I can excuse Kaepernick... he's a dumb JOCK!

Mapping Police Violence, tracks killings starting January 1, 2013 and conducts analyses and visualizations examining rates of killings by police department, city, state, and national trends over time.
Mapping Police Violence found 1,209 people killed by police in 2015,
including 346 black people and 102 unarmed black people.

Again backing up the above statistic that for every one black 3 whites were killed by cops!

Now another myth that Kaepernick believes:
Unarmed blacks killed more then WHITES by cops!
Using 346 of the 1,209 killed in 2015 being black or 28% of the people killed by cops
1 out of 3 blacks were unarmed!
Again.. dig deeper on your own please!
This is what idiots repeating the same myths don't seem to understand!
IT is a myth! More Whites are killed by Cops then Blacks!
The simple fact is more crime is committed by blacks as a percent of the USA population!
Finally why can't Obama/Kaepernick be a little more knowledgeable
LIKE THIS BLACK economics Harvard professor!

– FACT: Despite the fact that black people commit an equal or greater number of violent crimes than whites, whites are almost TWICE as likely to be killed by police officers.
According to data from the Centers for Disease Control, between 1999 and 2011,
2,151 whites died as a result of being shot by police compared to 1,130 blacks.

A study by a BLACK Harvard professor released this month found no evidence of racial bias in police shootings even though officers were more likely to interact physically with non-whites than whites.
The paper for the National Bureau of Economic Research, which examined thousands of incidents at 10 large police departments in California, Florida and Texas, concluded that police were no more likely to shoot non-whites than whites after factoring in extenuating circumstances.

“On the most extreme use of force — officer-involved shootings — we find no racial differences in either the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account,” said Harvard economics professor Roland G. Fryer Jr. in the abstract of the July 2016 paper.
Mr. Fryer, who is black, told The New York Times that the finding of no racial discrimination in police shootings was “the most surprising result of my career.”
No racial bias in police shootings, study by Harvard professor shows

So Obama/Kaepernick... why are you perpetuating this gigantic LIE??? What are you gaining?


I don't think he reads this forum dude.
 
Using bias law enforcement stats to prove there's no bias ?

OK you come up with "UNBIASED" statistics! Not one-offs, not anecdotal but pure statistics regarding violent crimes, fatherless households.
Note the chart shows black on black violent crimes had 62.2% by a black on black! All the other categories White on white 56% Hispanic 38% by other Hispanics..
Seems Blacks with 14% of the population does most damage to fellow blacks!
So again come up with honest and voluminous statistics such as what I've provided and present them.
Truly want to see your results!

From the doj . Blacks are targeted more in police stops .

  • An estimated 26.4 million persons age 16 or older indicated that their most recent contact with the police in 2011 was as a driver pulled over in a traffic stop. These drivers represented 12% of the nation's 212 million drivers.
  • A greater percentage of male drivers (12%) than female drivers (8%) were stopped by police during 2011. A higher percentage of black drivers (13%) than white (10%) and Hispanic (10%) drivers were stopped by police during 2011.
  • Stopped drivers reported speeding as the most common reason for being pulled over in 2011.
  • Approximately 80% of drivers pulled over by police in 2011 felt they had been stopped for a legitimate reason. In 2011, about 68% of black drivers believed police had a legitimate reason for stopping them compared to 84% of white and 74% of Hispanic drivers.
  • In 2011, about 3% of traffic stops led to a search of the driver, the vehicle, or both. Police were more likely to search male drivers (4%) than female drivers (2%).
  • A lower percentage of white drivers stopped by police in 2011 were searched (2%) than black (6%) or Hispanic (7%) drivers.


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Using bias law enforcement stats to prove there's no bias ?

OK you come up with "UNBIASED" statistics! Not one-offs, not anecdotal but pure statistics regarding violent crimes, fatherless households.
Note the chart shows black on black violent crimes had 62.2% by a black on black! All the other categories White on white 56% Hispanic 38% by other Hispanics..
Seems Blacks with 14% of the population does most damage to fellow blacks!
So again come up with honest and voluminous statistics such as what I've provided and present them.
Truly want to see your results!

From the doj . Blacks are targeted more in police stops .

  • An estimated 26.4 million persons age 16 or older indicated that their most recent contact with the police in 2011 was as a driver pulled over in a traffic stop. These drivers represented 12% of the nation's 212 million drivers.
  • A greater percentage of male drivers (12%) than female drivers (8%) were stopped by police during 2011. A higher percentage of black drivers (13%) than white (10%) and Hispanic (10%) drivers were stopped by police during 2011.
  • Stopped drivers reported speeding as the most common reason for being pulled over in 2011.
  • Approximately 80% of drivers pulled over by police in 2011 felt they had been stopped for a legitimate reason. In 2011, about 68% of black drivers believed police had a legitimate reason for stopping them compared to 84% of white and 74% of Hispanic drivers.
  • In 2011, about 3% of traffic stops led to a search of the driver, the vehicle, or both. Police were more likely to search male drivers (4%) than female drivers (2%).
  • A lower percentage of white drivers stopped by police in 2011 were searched (2%) than black (6%) or Hispanic (7%) drivers.


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Absolutely don't disagree with your statistics AS they substantiate the above Statistics I provided!
Common sense tells most people that if 22% of all Violent crimes are committed by people that constitute less then 14% of the population...duh!
Where would the most likely criminal activity occur?
But see you have to buy into the crap about "stereotyping" is wrong!
Stereotyping is based on FACTS! And yes... even the blacks admit 68% of them say there was a reason for stopping them!
Yes... taillight might be out. But just as Obama excused Pablo... "That's what Pablo had lacked, mostly, not having his driver's license that day, a cop with nothing better to do than to check the trunk of his car.. Obama blames the cop! The cops are doing their jobs. They see something a little wrong with a car and it's driven by a young black male wearing a do-rag..I'd stop the car as 68% of the blacks would agree!
Couple that with the statistics that most likely the young black had no father figure to give him the "talk" again watch Chris Rocks' video and maybe get a clue
as to REALITY!! Not what we want it to be but what it is! Little or no respect for the cop that is stopping will result in negative reactions! Human nature!
 
Obama Defends Kaepernick: "Maybe Some Of His Critics Will Start Seeing That He Has a Point"

What kind of IGNORANCE does Obama have because I can excuse Kaepernick... he's a dumb JOCK!

Mapping Police Violence, tracks killings starting January 1, 2013 and conducts analyses and visualizations examining rates of killings by police department, city, state, and national trends over time.
Mapping Police Violence found 1,209 people killed by police in 2015,
including 346 black people and 102 unarmed black people.

Again backing up the above statistic that for every one black 3 whites were killed by cops!

Now another myth that Kaepernick believes:
Unarmed blacks killed more then WHITES by cops!
Using 346 of the 1,209 killed in 2015 being black or 28% of the people killed by cops
1 out of 3 blacks were unarmed!
Again.. dig deeper on your own please!
This is what idiots repeating the same myths don't seem to understand!
IT is a myth! More Whites are killed by Cops then Blacks!
The simple fact is more crime is committed by blacks as a percent of the USA population!
Finally why can't Obama/Kaepernick be a little more knowledgeable
LIKE THIS BLACK economics Harvard professor!

– FACT: Despite the fact that black people commit an equal or greater number of violent crimes than whites, whites are almost TWICE as likely to be killed by police officers.
According to data from the Centers for Disease Control, between 1999 and 2011,
2,151 whites died as a result of being shot by police compared to 1,130 blacks.

A study by a BLACK Harvard professor released this month found no evidence of racial bias in police shootings even though officers were more likely to interact physically with non-whites than whites.
The paper for the National Bureau of Economic Research, which examined thousands of incidents at 10 large police departments in California, Florida and Texas, concluded that police were no more likely to shoot non-whites than whites after factoring in extenuating circumstances.

“On the most extreme use of force — officer-involved shootings — we find no racial differences in either the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account,” said Harvard economics professor Roland G. Fryer Jr. in the abstract of the July 2016 paper.
Mr. Fryer, who is black, told The New York Times that the finding of no racial discrimination in police shootings was “the most surprising result of my career.”
No racial bias in police shootings, study by Harvard professor shows

So Obama/Kaepernick... why are you perpetuating this gigantic LIE??? What are you gaining?


I don't think he reads this forum dude.

Oh I agree! But this wasn't meant for him but for people that don't have time to do a little research like the BLACK Harvard professor.
Meant for people that only hear/read the headlines ..Black lives Matter....crap!
 
Obama Defends Kaepernick: "Maybe Some Of His Critics Will Start Seeing That He Has a Point"

What kind of IGNORANCE does Obama have because I can excuse Kaepernick... he's a dumb JOCK!

Mapping Police Violence, tracks killings starting January 1, 2013 and conducts analyses and visualizations examining rates of killings by police department, city, state, and national trends over time.
Mapping Police Violence found 1,209 people killed by police in 2015,
including 346 black people and 102 unarmed black people.

Again backing up the above statistic that for every one black 3 whites were killed by cops!

Now another myth that Kaepernick believes:
Unarmed blacks killed more then WHITES by cops!
Using 346 of the 1,209 killed in 2015 being black or 28% of the people killed by cops
1 out of 3 blacks were unarmed!
Again.. dig deeper on your own please!
This is what idiots repeating the same myths don't seem to understand!
IT is a myth! More Whites are killed by Cops then Blacks!
The simple fact is more crime is committed by blacks as a percent of the USA population!
Finally why can't Obama/Kaepernick be a little more knowledgeable
LIKE THIS BLACK economics Harvard professor!

– FACT: Despite the fact that black people commit an equal or greater number of violent crimes than whites, whites are almost TWICE as likely to be killed by police officers.
According to data from the Centers for Disease Control, between 1999 and 2011,
2,151 whites died as a result of being shot by police compared to 1,130 blacks.

A study by a BLACK Harvard professor released this month found no evidence of racial bias in police shootings even though officers were more likely to interact physically with non-whites than whites.
The paper for the National Bureau of Economic Research, which examined thousands of incidents at 10 large police departments in California, Florida and Texas, concluded that police were no more likely to shoot non-whites than whites after factoring in extenuating circumstances.

“On the most extreme use of force — officer-involved shootings — we find no racial differences in either the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account,” said Harvard economics professor Roland G. Fryer Jr. in the abstract of the July 2016 paper.
Mr. Fryer, who is black, told The New York Times that the finding of no racial discrimination in police shootings was “the most surprising result of my career.”
No racial bias in police shootings, study by Harvard professor shows

So Obama/Kaepernick... why are you perpetuating this gigantic LIE??? What are you gaining?


I don't think he reads this forum dude.

Oh I agree! But this wasn't meant for him but for people that don't have time to do a little research like the BLACK Harvard professor.
Meant for people that only hear/read the headlines ..Black lives Matter....crap!

Excellent. Did you factor in to your numbers the percentage of americans that are Black?

So say if you were to say "Using 346 of the 1,209 killed in 2015 being black or 28% of the people killed by cops" then you would have a point if Blacks made up 50% and whites 50%.

But Blacks make up 13.2% But 28% of those killed. So over twice as likely to be killed as the average then?
 
Obama Defends Kaepernick: "Maybe Some Of His Critics Will Start Seeing That He Has a Point"

What kind of IGNORANCE does Obama have because I can excuse Kaepernick... he's a dumb JOCK!

Mapping Police Violence, tracks killings starting January 1, 2013 and conducts analyses and visualizations examining rates of killings by police department, city, state, and national trends over time.
Mapping Police Violence found 1,209 people killed by police in 2015,
including 346 black people and 102 unarmed black people.

Again backing up the above statistic that for every one black 3 whites were killed by cops!

Now another myth that Kaepernick believes:
Unarmed blacks killed more then WHITES by cops!
Using 346 of the 1,209 killed in 2015 being black or 28% of the people killed by cops
1 out of 3 blacks were unarmed!
Again.. dig deeper on your own please!
This is what idiots repeating the same myths don't seem to understand!
IT is a myth! More Whites are killed by Cops then Blacks!
The simple fact is more crime is committed by blacks as a percent of the USA population!
Finally why can't Obama/Kaepernick be a little more knowledgeable
LIKE THIS BLACK economics Harvard professor!

– FACT: Despite the fact that black people commit an equal or greater number of violent crimes than whites, whites are almost TWICE as likely to be killed by police officers.
According to data from the Centers for Disease Control, between 1999 and 2011,
2,151 whites died as a result of being shot by police compared to 1,130 blacks.

A study by a BLACK Harvard professor released this month found no evidence of racial bias in police shootings even though officers were more likely to interact physically with non-whites than whites.
The paper for the National Bureau of Economic Research, which examined thousands of incidents at 10 large police departments in California, Florida and Texas, concluded that police were no more likely to shoot non-whites than whites after factoring in extenuating circumstances.

“On the most extreme use of force — officer-involved shootings — we find no racial differences in either the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account,” said Harvard economics professor Roland G. Fryer Jr. in the abstract of the July 2016 paper.
Mr. Fryer, who is black, told The New York Times that the finding of no racial discrimination in police shootings was “the most surprising result of my career.”
No racial bias in police shootings, study by Harvard professor shows

So Obama/Kaepernick... why are you perpetuating this gigantic LIE??? What are you gaining?


I don't think he reads this forum dude.

Oh I agree! But this wasn't meant for him but for people that don't have time to do a little research like the BLACK Harvard professor.
Meant for people that only hear/read the headlines ..Black lives Matter....crap!

Excellent. Did you factor in to your numbers the percentage of americans that are Black?

So say if you were to say "Using 346 of the 1,209 killed in 2015 being black or 28% of the people killed by cops" then you would have a point if Blacks made up 50% and whites 50%.

But Blacks make up 13.2% But 28% of those killed. So over twice as likely to be killed as the average then?

The first lie is more blacks are killed then whites by cops. That's why Black lives matter leaders shout "Pigs in a blanket fry them like bacon".
That's not true.
The fact is blacks commit as this chart shows.. 22.4% of violent Crimes... YET they constitute less then 14% of the population.
They commit nearly 1/4th ( 22.4%) of the violent crimes with less the 1/6th the population.
whodoesmostcrimes.png
 
Doesn't further his agenda so he doesn't care ... sorta like the victims in La & the record-setting gun crime / murder rate in Chicago.
 

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