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Play that Perpetual VICTIM Card, crybaby.
Nobody has to do anything to make you domestic terrorists look bad, you do it all by yourselves.
She criticizes the administration so she's a domestic terrorist?
She did more than just "criticize" and I have just as much right to create an imaginary scenario as she does.
In this thread her fellow travelers use the Stalin, Hitler, holocaust references to work the Right up into a terrorist frenzy, a mob bent on revenge for IMAGINED acts never committed upon them.
I was just counter-imagining how the Patriot Act gives the president broad powers to act against Domestic Terrorist Groups to give you CON$ something else to worry about. It takes nothing more than LABELING to invoke the power of the Patriot Act.
Think about it! LOL
She criticizes the administration so she's a domestic terrorist?
She did more than just "criticize" and I have just as much right to create an imaginary scenario as she does.
In this thread her fellow travelers use the Stalin, Hitler, holocaust references to work the Right up into a terrorist frenzy, a mob bent on revenge for IMAGINED acts never committed upon them.
I was just counter-imagining how the Patriot Act gives the president broad powers to act against Domestic Terrorist Groups to give you CON$ something else to worry about. It takes nothing more than LABELING to invoke the power of the Patriot Act.
Think about it! LOL
But her post (the one you quoted) didn't mention Hitler, Stalin or the holocaust.
Why not respond to her based on what she wrote, and to others based on what they wrote, rather than grouping anyone whose views you don't like into a single entity with an assumed identical agenda. That's something of a McCarthyist tactic, though of course I certainly respect your right to write what you want.
She criticizes the administration so she's a domestic terrorist?
She did more than just "criticize" and I have just as much right to create an imaginary scenario as she does.
In this thread her fellow travelers use the Stalin, Hitler, holocaust references to work the Right up into a terrorist frenzy, a mob bent on revenge for IMAGINED acts never committed upon them.
I was just counter-imagining how the Patriot Act gives the president broad powers to act against Domestic Terrorist Groups to give you CON$ something else to worry about. It takes nothing more than LABELING to invoke the power of the Patriot Act.
Think about it! LOL
But her post (the one you quoted) didn't mention Hitler, Stalin or the holocaust.
Why not respond to her based on what she wrote, and to others based on what they wrote, rather than grouping anyone whose views you don't like into a single entity with an assumed identical agenda. That's something of a McCarthyist tactic, though of course I certainly respect your right to write what you want.
So, here's my take. The administration plays hardball, and smears those who disagree with their policies.
Play that Perpetual VICTIM Card, crybaby.
Nobody has to do anything to make you domestic terrorists look bad, you do it all by yourselves.
You folks have a good time at the Astroturf Tea Parties. Hope you have nice weather.
When you march, think of those millionaires who paid Freedom Works and Americans for Prosperity and The Rendon Group a LOT of money to get all you out on the street for them. Millionaires who paid to bus in all those out of towners and put them up in really nice hotels and paid to organize and promote the event.
I Hope all the non-millionaires can march and chant to protest the poor millionaires' marginal taxes going up 2011 to the rate it was in 2001.
That's what it's all about. Sean and Glenn and Neil and Rush and all the hedge fund managers
are gonna be paying higher taxes 2 years from now, while you'll be getting tax breaks.
It is Brutally unfair. Nice of you to stand up for them.
astroturfing: n.
1. The use of paid shills to create the impression of a popular movement, through means like letters to newspapers from soi-disant 'concerned citizens', paid opinion pieces, and the formation of grass-roots lobbying groups that are actually funded by a PR group (AstroTurf? is fake grass; hence the term). See also sock puppet, tentacle.
Play that Perpetual VICTIM Card, crybaby.
Nobody has to do anything to make you domestic terrorists look bad, you do it all by yourselves.
She criticizes the administration so she's a domestic terrorist?
She did more than just "criticize" and I have just as much right to create an imaginary scenario as she does.
In this thread her fellow travelers use the Stalin, Hitler, holocaust references to work the Right up into a terrorist frenzy, a mob bent on revenge for IMAGINED acts never committed upon them.
I was just counter-imagining how the Patriot Act gives the president broad powers to act against Domestic Terrorist Groups to give you CON$ something else to worry about. It takes nothing more than LABELING to invoke the power of the Patriot Act.
Think about it! LOL
So, here's my take. The administration plays hardball, and smears those who disagree with their policies.
Play that Perpetual VICTIM Card, crybaby.
Nobody has to do anything to make you domestic terrorists look bad, you do it all by yourselves.
Judas Maude, man. Has PC threatened anyone? What the fuck is wrong with you? This is why you get neg-reps.
Just thought I'd beat our left wing colleagues to posting this:
Federal agency warns of radicals on right - Washington TimesThe Department of Homeland Security is warning law enforcement officials about a rise in "rightwing extremist activity," saying the economic recession, the election of America's first black president and the return of a few disgruntled war veterans could swell the ranks of white-power militias.
A footnote attached to the report by the Homeland Security Office of Intelligence and Analysis defines "rightwing extremism in the United States" as including not just racist or hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority.
"It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single-issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration," the warning says.
And just last week, we saw this:
ACORN, HuffPo Organizing Efforts to Infiltrate Tax Day Tea PartiesOn Fox News Channels April 7 Your World, host Neil Cavuto reported that the Tax Day tea party protests on April 15 will be infiltrated by their political opponents and led by left-wing activist organizations. He specifically named Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN).
So, here's my take. The administration plays hardball, and smears those who disagree with their policies.
And, the irony is that today is the anniverary of the publication of Steinbeck's "Grapes of Wrath", which has a great scene where 'agent provacateurs' start a fight at a dance given by peaceful immigrant workers.
Life imitates art.
A footnote attached to the report by the Homeland Security Office of Intelligence and Analysis defines "rightwing extremism in the United States" as including not just racist or hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority.
"It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single-issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration," the warning says.
You folks have a good time at the Astroturf Tea Parties. Hope you have nice weather.
When you march, think of those millionaires who paid Freedom Works and Americans for Prosperity and The Rendon Group a LOT of money to get all you out on the street for them. Millionaires who paid to bus in all those out of towners and put them up in really nice hotels and paid to organize and promote the event.
I Hope all the non-millionaires can march and chant to protest the poor millionaires' marginal taxes going up 2011 to the rate it was in 2001.
That's what it's all about. Sean and Glenn and Neil and Rush and all the hedge fund managers
are gonna be paying higher taxes 2 years from now, while you'll be getting tax breaks.
It is Brutally unfair. Nice of you to stand up for them.
astroturfing: n.
1. The use of paid shills to create the impression of a popular movement, through means like letters to newspapers from soi-disant 'concerned citizens', paid opinion pieces, and the formation of grass-roots lobbying groups that are actually funded by a PR group (AstroTurf? is fake grass; hence the term). See also sock puppet, tentacle.
Hey, calm down, your perspiration is fogging up the computer screen. And get a tissue for that spittle.
You NeoComs own two of the branches of our government. Why do you get so excited when a few of us like-minded folks get together to celebrate American?
Are you calm now? Then consider this, many of us on this side of the board believe that the ones you love to hate, the "millionaires," the "rich" are us! We are rich because we live in the finest country on the face of the earth, the "shining city on the hill," where we all have the opportunity to be millionaires.
Not get off your whiny, covetous butt and get out and work. Who knows, you might turn out to be one of those folks you hate!
In fact, how do you like this idea: let's reverse reverse the tax code, so the less you earn, the more taxes you pay! The lowest fifth of the population pays the most, and the richest, nothing!!!! That would light a fire under your lazy rear.
(OK- I just said that to make you pop a nitro under your tongue.)
You folks have a good time at the Astroturf Tea Parties. Hope you have nice weather.
When you march, think of those millionaires who paid Freedom Works and Americans for Prosperity and The Rendon Group a LOT of money to get all you out on the street for them. Millionaires who paid to bus in all those out of towners and put them up in really nice hotels and paid to organize and promote the event.
I Hope all the non-millionaires can march and chant to protest the poor millionaires' marginal taxes going up 2011 to the rate it was in 2001.
That's what it's all about. Sean and Glenn and Neil and Rush and all the hedge fund managers
are gonna be paying higher taxes 2 years from now, while you'll be getting tax breaks.
It is Brutally unfair. Nice of you to stand up for them.
astroturfing: n.
1. The use of paid shills to create the impression of a popular movement, through means like letters to newspapers from soi-disant 'concerned citizens', paid opinion pieces, and the formation of grass-roots lobbying groups that are actually funded by a PR group (AstroTurf? is fake grass; hence the term). See also sock puppet, tentacle.
Then why is she trying to link the teabaggers to right wing extremists?And on a somewhat sidenote point - I find PC's posts in here to be among the best and brightest. She shows a more than passing understanding of historical relevance that many more would do well to incorporate.
Then why is she trying to link the teabaggers to right wing extremists?And on a somewhat sidenote point - I find PC's posts in here to be among the best and brightest. She shows a more than passing understanding of historical relevance that many more would do well to incorporate.
Just thought I'd beat our left wing colleagues to posting this:
Federal agency warns of radicals on right - Washington TimesThe Department of Homeland Security is warning law enforcement officials about a rise in "rightwing extremist activity," saying the economic recession, the election of America's first black president and the return of a few disgruntled war veterans could swell the ranks of white-power militias.
A footnote attached to the report by the Homeland Security Office of Intelligence and Analysis defines "rightwing extremism in the United States" as including not just racist or hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority.
"It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single-issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration," the warning says.
And just last week, we saw this:
ACORN, HuffPo Organizing Efforts to Infiltrate Tax Day Tea Parties
So, here's my take. The administration plays hardball, and smears those who disagree with their policies.
And, the irony is that today is the anniverary of the publication of Steinbeck's "Grapes of Wrath", which has a great scene where 'agent provacateurs' start a fight at a dance given by peaceful immigrant workers.
Life imitates art.
I didn't see anything about the teabaggers in the article you linked about the report. Are you saying the teabaggers fit into this description:
A footnote attached to the report by the Homeland Security Office of Intelligence and Analysis defines "rightwing extremism in the United States" as including not just racist or hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority.
"It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single-issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration," the warning says.
If so, why do you support them?
While some of you can dismiss these tea parties to your heart's content, the fact remains they are indicative of a growing frustration throughout the country. And while the gentleman spouting fears of communist infiltrations, and the woman burning books, is frustation to the point of parody, many, many similar examples of similar silliness by paranoid liberals when Bush II was President - and you all know that to be the case.
Such silliness aside, this tea party movement will either continue to grow into a viable focus of energized dissatisfaction, or it will quickly lose momentum and fall away - at this point I am not certain what will be the case.
Just as I saw merit in the concerns of those who shared fears regarding the Patriot Act, so too do I find merit in those who share concerns regarding the alarming growth of our federal government - both under Bush II, and now accelerating under Obama.
And on a somewhat sidenote point - I find PC's posts in here to be among the best and brightest. She shows a more than passing understanding of historical relevance that many more would do well to incorporate.
Which of my questions did you not understand?Just thought I'd beat our left wing colleagues to posting this:
Federal agency warns of radicals on right - Washington Times
And just last week, we saw this:
ACORN, HuffPo Organizing Efforts to Infiltrate Tax Day Tea Parties
So, here's my take. The administration plays hardball, and smears those who disagree with their policies.
And, the irony is that today is the anniverary of the publication of Steinbeck's "Grapes of Wrath", which has a great scene where 'agent provacateurs' start a fight at a dance given by peaceful immigrant workers.
Life imitates art.
I didn't see anything about the teabaggers in the article you linked about the report. Are you saying the teabaggers fit into this description:
If so, why do you support them?A footnote attached to the report by the Homeland Security Office of Intelligence and Analysis defines "rightwing extremism in the United States" as including not just racist or hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority.
"It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single-issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration," the warning says.
I'm not sure about your question. Are you saying that the Homeland Security report did not mention the "tea parties," and cited only those mentioned by name or type?
My post aimed to link several themes. The administration takes a shot at "rightwinger." The "Tea Party" idea is generally considered to be populated by those on the right, just as the Obama Administration, and their supporters, are generally considered to be on the left.
Thus one connection.
The Huffington Post article suggests that some believe that ACORN, a leftist group with ties to both the Democrat Party and the current administration, is infiltrating the Tea Party rallies. Why? It seems logical that they would like to disrupt, or give the impression that those on the right behave poorly. These types are known as 'agent provocateurs.' Second connection of the post.
Third, a literary connection. In Steinbeck's novel, published on this date in 1939, provocateurs disrupt a rally.
My support is for those citizens who oppose a concept that has never been shown to be successful, the 'stimulus' concept. It is wasteful financially, and no more than a smokescreen designed to grow government and benefit Democrat cronies.
