NYT: Donald Trump is Unfit to Lead

[Faun]

As for giving credit? I'll give credit where credit is due. Joe Biden's claim that he "created" 15 million jobs is quite frankly total bullshit which I think you know only too well. The vast majority of those jobs were what are referred to as "bounce back" jobs...jobs that existed before the Covid shut downs and simply resumed after the Covid shut downs ended!

Yes, he added 15½ million jobs. He created about 6½ million.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Yes, he added 15½ million jobs. He created about 6½ million.

he did or did the American business people do that?...

 

[airplanemechanic]

Is Biden's 4% unemployment better than Trump's 15%?
Is Biden's 40,000 DOW better than Trump's 20,000 DOW?

Now, tell us what specific action of the Biden administration caused inflation. Back it up with data.

The gas is a retard statement. During covid people weren't commuting to work. Do you know about supply and demand, retard?

The border is fine. Only the racists and bigots are wetting their pants over it.

Unemployment never hit 15% under Trump. It was 3.5 until the dempanic, where it went to 6.4.

Trump doubled the DOW in 4 years from Obama's 16000 to Trump's 32000.

Quit getting your information from PMSDNC.

 

[Faun]

Yes. The talking head moderators on CNN and MSDNC never challenge them on their scare tactics.
1. There will be 2026 mid-term elections
2. There will be a 2028 presidential election, and as of noon on his last day, Trump will not be president, period.

Trump can't be a "dictator", the Constitution limits his power.
Biden ignores the Constitution. Paying student loans when he can't, open borders, etc.

Of course he could become a dictator. You think the Constitution can prevent that? Germany had a Constitution too until Nazi's flushed it down the toilet in 1933.

All it takes is for enough people to let it happen. And given how dedicated the cult of MAGA is to Trump, that alone represents about a third of the nation.

 

[Faun]

he did or did the American business people do that?...

Same as with EVERY other president, regardless of the causes, the president gets the credit or the blame.

 

[Synthaholic]

Biden didn't have to deal with the beginning of a world-wide pandemic

Turns out Trump didn't deal with it, either. A million dead because of his incompetence.

 

[Synthaholic]

That pesky pandemic keeps getting in the way of your narrative.

The Covid Hoax?

 

[M14 Shooter]

"Mr. Trump has shown...

NYT also said:

To Serve His Country, President Biden Should Leave the Race​

Must be true, right?

 

[Faun]

Unemployment never hit 15% under Trump. It was 3.5 until the dempanic, where it went to 6.4.

Trump doubled the DOW in 4 years from Obama's 16000 to Trump's 32000.

Quit getting your information from PMSDNC.

LOL

It peaked at 14.8%. It's reasonable to refer to that as 15%

As far as your made up Dow numbers, in reality...

1.20.17: 31,188
1.20.21: 19,827

While that's still pretty good, it's only a 57% increase, not the 100% increase you claimed. And while that's still much better than Biden, it pales in comparison to Clinton (225%) and Obama (149%).

DJIA

 

[JoeB131]

Not only is he fit to lead, he has a record of prosperity for our country, and can clean up the incredible mess that Biden has caused worldwide.

First president since Hoover to preside over a net jobs loss.

How is this prosperity by you?

 

[Dante]

This stuff has given sonemething to the MAGA tafter the criminal conviction of Trump.

I guess they're all hysterical over it. A lifeline. But it seems they don't realize that lifeline is not tethered to anything but a log of shit

 

[kyzr]

Of course he could become a dictator. You think the Constitution can prevent that? Germany had a Constitution too until Nazi's flushed it down the toilet in 1933.

All it takes is for enough people to let it happen. And given how dedicated the cult of MAGA is to Trump, that alone represents about a third of the nation.

OK, so show me how Trump can be a dictator when the Secret Service would shove his ass in a limo at noon of his last day?

You think the Joint Chiefs would follow his orders after he is no longer president?

You think there would be a VP that would negate the certified election results? Or that the House & Senate would play along?

TOTAL BULLSHIT!!!!!

 

[kyzr]

First president since Hoover to preside over a net jobs loss.

How is this prosperity by you?

Prosperity is what the voters prefer, not the Biden disaster. Stay tuned.

 

[Faun]

OK, so show me how Trump can be a dictator when the Secret Service would shove his ass in a limo at noon of his last day?

You think the Joint Chiefs would follow his orders after he is no longer president?

You think there would be a VP that would negate the certified election results? Or that the House & Senate would play along?

TOTAL BULLSHIT!!!!!

Germany had a similar structure in 1933. To be clear, I'm not saying it's what is going to happen. I'm just pointing out to those who say it can't -- it has.

 

[Blisterfinger]

LOL

Trump cult in court for trying to steal 2020 election

Being tried by the Democrats who actually stole the election LOL

 

[kyzr]

Germany had a similar structure in 1933. To be clear, I'm not saying it's what is going to happen. I'm just pointing out to those who say it can't -- it has.

Sorry, but Germany did NOT have the Constitution and "check and balances" that the US has.
NFW anyone can become dictator of the US. The president can be lawless like Joe Biden and have open borders and pay of student loans, but when elections come around every 2-years the people say which party has power.

Germany 1933: from democracy to dictatorship

After Hitler came to power in 1933, Germany became a dictatorship. Read how the Nazis used oppression and violence to eliminate Jews and political opponents.

www.annefrank.org

Hitler appointed Chancellor​

The conservative parties did not manage to win enough votes. They pressured president Paul von Hindenburg to appoint Hitler chancellor. They hoped to form a majority cabinet with the NSDAP. The fact that they expected to use Hitler for their own agenda would turn out to be a fatal underestimation.

30 January 1933 was the day: Von Hindenburg gave in and appointed Hitler chancellor. ‘It is like a dream. The Wilhelmstraße is ours', Joseph Goebbels, the future Minister of Propaganda, wrote in his diary.https://www.annefrank.org/en/anne-f...ny-1933-democracy-dictatorship/#source-357138 So, although Hitler was not elected by the German people, he still came to power in a legal way.

 

[Faun]

Sorry, but Germany did NOT have the Constitution and "check and balances" that the US has.
NFW anyone can become dictator of the US. The president can be lawless like Joe Biden and have open borders and pay of student loans, but when elections come around every 2-years the people say which party has power.

Germany 1933: from democracy to dictatorship

After Hitler came to power in 1933, Germany became a dictatorship. Read how the Nazis used oppression and violence to eliminate Jews and political opponents.

www.annefrank.org

Hitler appointed Chancellor​

The conservative parties did not manage to win enough votes. They pressured president Paul von Hindenburg to appoint Hitler chancellor. They hoped to form a majority cabinet with the NSDAP. The fact that they expected to use Hitler for their own agenda would turn out to be a fatal underestimation.

30 January 1933 was the day: Von Hindenburg gave in and appointed Hitler chancellor. ‘It is like a dream. The Wilhelmstraße is ours', Joseph Goebbels, the future Minister of Propaganda, wrote in his diary.https://www.annefrank.org/en/anne-f...ny-1933-democracy-dictatorship/#source-357138 So, although Hitler was not elected by the German people, he still came to power in a legal way.

Of course it was. Their constitution declared their head of state was a president, elected by the people every 4 years. Hitler wanted to be a dictator. He couldn't be president since that required an election. So instead, the Nazi's in their parliament, passed legislation creating a new office. They made him fuhrer by combining the powers of the president and the chancellor. And enough people went along with it, inside the government as well as outside and the military, that it led to what it became. Don't be so naive to think that can't happen again. Anywhere.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Sorry, but Germany did NOT have the Constitution and "check and balances" that the US has.

In short, what happened in Germany, 1929-1933 was a direct product of the conditions in Germany, 1918-1933.
None of those conditions apply to the US,.
The fact (x) happened anywhere is in no way necessarily means (x) can happen here.

 

[M14 Shooter]

So instead, the Nazi's in their parliament, passed legislation creating a new office. They made him fuhrer by combining the powers of the president and the chancellor. And enough people went along with it, inside the government as well as outside and the military, that it led to what it became. Don't be so naive to think that can't happen again. Anywhere.

Here, that would require a constitutional amendment, and the approval of 38 states.
That won't happen..

 

[Man With A Plan]

You're nuts.

I didn't dodge anything. I literally showed you a graph of every federal fund rate increase and decrease under both Obama and Trump.

And I never said the president controls the rate or the Federal Reserve. I said the Federal Reserve controls the Federal fund rate.

Again, the parts of my post YOU dodged while falsely claimed I dodged your question...

The rate started going up towards the end of Obama's term because the economy was good. That's what Obama handed Trump.​

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Trump, boasting the greatest economy ever, is laughable given the Federal Reserve began dropping the rate in 2019.​

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Still, the rate of employment growth under Trump was no better than it was under Obama. Even worse for your argument, employment growth rate has been even stronger under Biden. And while his first year and half was mostly recovering jobs lost in 2020, the last 2 years have been job creation. And that's with a federal fund rate more than double it's highest point under Trump​

You're nuts.

I didn't dodge anything. I literally showed you a graph of every federal fund rate increase and decrease under both Obama and Trump.

And I never said the president controls the rate or the Federal Reserve. I said the Federal Reserve controls the Federal fund rate.

Again, the parts of my post YOU dodged while falsely claimed I dodged your question...

The rate started going up towards the end of Obama's term because the economy was good. That's what Obama handed Trump.​

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Trump, boasting the greatest economy ever, is laughable given the Federal Reserve began dropping the rate in 2019.​

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Still, the rate of employment growth under Trump was no better than it was under Obama. Even worse for your argument, employment growth rate has been even stronger under Biden. And while his first year and half was mostly recovering jobs lost in 2020, the last 2 years have been job creation. And that's with a federal fund rate more than double it's highest point under Trump.​

And what was the rate for almost the ENTIRE Obama Presidency, Faun? The truth is that the Fed kept interest rates near 0 for 7 years of the Obama Presidency. They didn't increase it at all until Dec. of 2016 because the economy was so weak. Under Trump the rate was increased seven times before another small rate increase was imposed. They were raising the rate because the economy was doing so well under Trump. Now under Biden the Fed desperately WANTS to increase the rate to combat the rampant inflation that Biden's spending caused but they can't because the economy isn't strong enough to support it and they fear a recession!