DamnYankee
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Why reinvent the wheel when scientists have already analyzed centuries of data and published conclusions?
SpringerLink - Journal Article
SpringerLink - Journal Article
NYC has 8th coolest June on record.
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Old Rocks
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Dang, old boy, been skipping the Alzheimer's medicine again? There are doubtless many spots that one can pick for a record cold June, and many that can be picked for a record hot June. In a few days the people that keep track of such things will publish how this June ranked against those of the last 150 years. My bet is that it is within the top ten.
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Just waiting for this global warming to take hold, while instruments such as the Argo Buoys tell us it's getting cooler not warmer.
Sun spots are a BITCH!
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Why did Old Perv thank you for this?
Probably because for some reason he ASSumed you were with him and the AGW church and didn't bother checking the link!
KittenKoder
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Want to know a truly odd thing, I have never driven or owned a vehicle more than a bicycle, use to like "recycled" paper just because it looked cool, and even recycled when I got money back from it. Then they started making laws ... but I still pollute less than any environut on the planet.
Old Rocks
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Good article, disagree with their findings, as do these people;
A warning from the ghost of climate past « BraveNewClimate.com
Records of abrupt climate events in the recent history of Earth suggest current emission reduction targets fall short of preventing carbon and ice/melt feedback loops and consequent runaway greenhouse effects
Andrew Glikson
(editing and hyperlinking by Barry Brook)
Earth and paleo-climate research, Research School of Earth Science, Australian National University
Summary: Current CO2 (carbon dioxide) + CH4 (methane) radiative effects of 433 ppm (parts per million) CO2-equivalent (including the effects of CH4) are dangerously close to the 450 ppm CO2 level at which the polar ice sheets formed 34 Ma (Ma = 1 million years-ago) (Hansen et al., 2008), consistent with the fast ice melt rates of the Arctic Sea, Greenland and west Antarctica. Ice core studies of the Pleistocene (1.8 Ma to 11.7 kyr) (kyr = one thousand years-ago) glacial-interglacial cycles display abrupt global warming and cooling events on time scales of few years to decades (Steffensen et al., 2008; Kobashi et al., 2008). This includes sharp climate tipping points at 14 700, 12 900 and 11 700 years-ago (Kobashi et al., 2008) and intra-glacial cycles between 80 000 and 20 000 years-ago (Broecker, 2000; Braun et al., 2005).
Old Rocks
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Why did Old Perv thank you for this?
Probably because for some reason he ASSumed you were with him and the AGW church and didn't bother checking the link!
No, you silly old loon. He posted something of substance, something you have yet to do.
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You THANKED a post that blows your bullshit premise out of the water. Because you either didn't check the link, or if you did, didn't read the article.Why did Old Perv thank you for this?
Probably because for some reason he ASSumed you were with him and the AGW church and didn't bother checking the link!
No, you silly old loon. He posted something of substance, something you have yet to do.
It was a SHE you thanked by the way, not a "he" you fucking sloppy operator.
NOW you're trying to cover your own dumb ass!
Old Rocks
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You THANKED a post that blows your bullshit premise out of the water. Because you either didn't check the link, or if you did, didn't read the article.Why did Old Perv thank you for this?
Probably because for some reason he ASSumed you were with him and the AGW church and didn't bother checking the link!
No, you silly old loon. He posted something of substance, something you have yet to do.
It was a SHE you thanked by the way, not a "he" you fucking sloppy operator.
NOW you're trying to cover your own dumb ass!
No, it does not. It is a mathematical model, the same as the global warming predictions are mathmatical models. Glaciers and ice caps are not mathmatical models. Neither are the crops our civilization depends on.
Global starvation imminent as US faces crop failure | 19 June 2009 | www.commodityonline.com
Crop Prospects and Food Situation, No.2,April 2009
AFRICA: Link Between Crop Failure and Climate Change Often Missed - IPS ipsnews.net
DamnYankee
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You THANKED a post that blows your bullshit premise out of the water. Because you either didn't check the link, or if you did, didn't read the article.Why did Old Perv thank you for this?
Probably because for some reason he ASSumed you were with him and the AGW church and didn't bother checking the link!
No, you silly old loon. He posted something of substance, something you have yet to do.
It was a SHE you thanked by the way, not a "he" you fucking sloppy operator.
NOW you're trying to cover your own dumb ass!
Yes, please.... Do be sure and emphasize that SHE part....
KittenKoder
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You THANKED a post that blows your bullshit premise out of the water. Because you either didn't check the link, or if you did, didn't read the article.
It was a SHE you thanked by the way, not a "he" you fucking sloppy operator.
NOW you're trying to cover your own dumb ass!
No, it does not. It is a mathematical model, the same as the global warming predictions are mathmatical models. Glaciers and ice caps are not mathmatical models. Neither are the crops our civilization depends on.
Global starvation imminent as US faces crop failure | 19 June 2009 | www.commodityonline.com
Crop Prospects and Food Situation,*No.2,April*2009
AFRICA: Link Between Crop Failure and Climate Change Often Missed - IPS ipsnews.net
First, everything can be broken down to a mathematical model, and your scientists are using mathematical models only for their "predictions" moron.
Secondly, the effects on crops and ice and all that used by the "peer pressured" groups are guesses, not even solid math.
Oddball
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Global warming will kill us all....Republicans are to blame!
Oddball
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Don't like the weather, hang around awhile....It'll change.
DamnYankee
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You THANKED a post that blows your bullshit premise out of the water. Because you either didn't check the link, or if you did, didn't read the article.
It was a SHE you thanked by the way, not a "he" you fucking sloppy operator.
NOW you're trying to cover your own dumb ass!
No, it does not. It is a mathematical model, the same as the global warming predictions are mathmatical models. Glaciers and ice caps are not mathmatical models. Neither are the crops our civilization depends on.
Global starvation imminent as US faces crop failure | 19 June 2009 | www.commodityonline.com
Crop Prospects and Food Situation,*No.2,April*2009
AFRICA: Link Between Crop Failure and Climate Change Often Missed - IPS ipsnews.net
Would be difficult to opine on the fate of glaciers, ice caps and crops without those mathematical models, wouldn't it? Now the problem I have with that is the selective use of the models. You see where this is going don't you?
Old Rocks
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Not difficult at all to opine on the fate of the glaciers. In Glacier National Park, at the present rate of deglaciation, all the glaciers will be gone by 2030. Sooner than that if the present acceleration of the melting continues. The North Polar cap has been losing ice steadily for the last 30 years. If it continues at the present rate, the North Pole will be clear of ice before 2050. If it continues to accelerate the pace of melting, much sooner than that. No fancy models needed.
We have seen the start of the outgassing of the Arctic Clathrates. That is the beginning of the worst possible thing that could happen as far as global warming goes.
We have seen the start of the outgassing of the Arctic Clathrates. That is the beginning of the worst possible thing that could happen as far as global warming goes.
Old Rocks
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We've had 40 days and 40 nights of rain, been looking for the ark up on the mountainside near us, hoping to be rescued....
In the meantime, here in Portland, Oregon, we are way low on our rainfall. Yet Eastern Oregon has had a series of thunderstorms that have given them a very wet spring. Many have just finished the second cutting of hay, and look to get a third.
We've had 40 days and 40 nights of rain, been looking for the ark up on the mountainside near us, hoping to be rescued....
In the meantime, here in Portland, Oregon, we are way low on our rainfall. Yet Eastern Oregon has had a series of thunderstorms that have given them a very wet spring. Many have just finished the second cutting of hay, and look to get a third.
I just read somewhere that your town was named after Portland, Maine...and that the name Boston was also in the running....lol...i had no idea it was a bunch of new englanders that settled your area or enough so to be naming your city.
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