NY Times Admits: Anchor Babies Benefit Hugely from Taxpayer-Funded Welfare

[Seymour Flops]

There is no such thing so:................

And illegals are not on welfare.

Sometimes you make sense even when I disagree.

It is therefore disappointing to see you come on a thread like this and tell two lies in two sentences.

 

[pknopp]

Sometimes you make sense even when I disagree.

It is therefore disappointing to see you come on a thread like this and tell two lies in two sentences.

Read the thread. Its all been covered and I am correct.

 

[Unkotare]

Can anchor babies be President.
...

No such thing. Natural born citizens can be president.

 

[Etymology gaslight]

In other news: water is wet.

Not always,
What about sublimation ?

 

[Etymology gaslight]

The welfare is intended for the US citizen children, not illegal aliens. There is no such thing as an anchor baby. Deport illegal aliens.

The baby can stay.

 

[Unkotare]

The baby can stay.

Of course a citizen can stay.

 

[Etymology gaslight]

Of course a citizen can stay.

What could he or she become president.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Read the thread. Its all been covered and I am correct.

If you have post number that you would like me to look at, I will be happy to. But there is nothing on this thread that can make reality into unreality, nor render fact into fiction.

Babies born to two illegal alien parents or one illegal alien mother and unknown father are legally American citizens - fact.

These babies are often cited as reasons not to deport the illegal alien parent - fact.

American citizen babies are eligible for welfare but the money and benefits are given to the illegal alien parents - fact.

Many welfare benefits are legally available to illegal aliens. AI can explain it better than I:

While many welfare benefits are legally not allowed for illegal aliens, the welfare workers do not ask for documentation and are nearly always barred from asking about illegal status.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Green card holders are invited here, through their green card issuance, and they are invited to become legal Naturalized citizens after 5 years here and keeping their nose clean.

Sounds very fair. Why would anyone cross the border illegally?

 

[Seymour Flops]

For those who say that there is no such thing as anchor babies, what is your definition of anchor baby?

 

[pknopp]

If you have post number that you would like me to look at, I will be happy to. But there is nothing on this thread that can make reality into unreality, nor render fact into fiction.

Babies born to two illegal alien parents or one illegal alien mother and unknown father are legally American citizens - fact.

These babies are often cited as reasons not to deport the illegal alien parent - fact.

There are many things cited for many things. It does not make it fact. No amount of babies born here can stop an illegal from being deported and it has happened many times.

American citizen babies are eligible for welfare but the money and benefits are given to the illegal alien parents - fact.

There is a small amount that a child can receive. A small amount. Illegals qualify for none.

Many welfare benefits are legally available to illegal aliens. AI can explain it better than I:

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While many welfare benefits are legally not allowed for illegal aliens, the welfare workers do not ask for documentation and are nearly always barred from asking about illegal status.

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Your notes largely apply to once again the child. Education, etc. Can they access medical services in an emergency? Sure but that is pretty much worldwide. If you are most anywhere in the world and get hit by a car, you are going to get emergency services. That is not accessing welfare.

 

[pknopp]

For those who say that there is no such thing as anchor babies, what is your definition of anchor baby?

Something that doesn't exist. A made up definition to inflame the masses.

 

[Seymour Flops]

There are many things cited for many things. It does not make it fact. No amount of babies born here can stop an illegal from being deported and it has happened many times.

True enough. It happens.

Under Biden it did not happen because Biden had no interest in deporting ANY illegals, with or without American kids. Under Trump, it doesn't happen because Trump doesn't fall for the crocodile tears about "deporting American kids."

But under previous administrations, illegal alien parents of American citizen babies were given benefits and allowed to stay.

There is a small amount that a child can receive. A small amount. Illegals qualify for none.

I would disagree, but "small" is a relative term.

So, why would you say "Illegal aliens are not on welfare," when you know it to be false. Why not say "illegal aliens get a small amount of welfare through their children?" That would at least be honest, even if I disagree that billions of dollars is "small."

Your notes largely apply to once again the child. Education, etc.

Right, whether they are illegal or not.

Can they access medical services in an emergency? Sure but that is pretty much worldwide. If you are most anywhere in the world and get hit by a car, you are going to get emergency services. That is not accessing welfare.

Is lying about their immigration status to collect TANF and SNAP accessing welfare?

Is not even asking about immigration status before giving TANF and SNAP giving illegals welfare?

Is the Cash Assistance Program for Immigrants (CAPI) in California an example of illegals accessing welfare?

You have an opportunity to be truthful in your next post. You could simply say "I know that illegals access welfare, but it is limited, and I'm glad they do." That won't be news to anyone on this thread.

 

[Unkotare]

What could he or she become president.

Of course.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Something that doesn't exist. A made up definition to inflame the masses.

If you cannot define it, you cannot logically claim that they do not exist.

But, of course, if you defined it, you would be naming something that you know exists, so I see why you won't.

 

[pknopp]

True enough. It happens.

Under Biden it did not happen because Biden had no interest in deporting ANY illegals, with or without American kids. Under Trump, it doesn't happen because Trump doesn't fall for the crocodile tears about "deporting American kids."

Many illegals were deported but don't ask me to explain Biden. The courts smacked him down when he (or someone in the administration) tried to make the argument.

Federal judge rejects Biden policy shielding immigrant spouses, children from deportation - Maryland Matters

A federal judge late Thursday struck down a White House policy that created a pathway to citizenship for people in the country lacking permanent status who were married to a U.S. citizen.

marylandmatters.org

But under previous administrations, illegal alien parents of American citizen babies were given benefits and allowed to stay.

No, they did not get benefits.

What will give you a free pass? Showing up to work.

I would disagree, but "small" is a relative term.

So, why would you say "Illegal aliens are not on welfare," when you know it to be false. Why not say "illegal aliens get a small amount of welfare through their children?" That would at least be honest, even if I disagree that billions of dollars is "small."

Right, whether they are illegal or not.

Is lying about their immigration status to collect TANF and SNAP accessing welfare?

Is not even asking about immigration status before giving TANF and SNAP giving illegals welfare?

Is the Cash Assistance Program for Immigrants (CAPI) in California an example of illegals accessing welfare?

You have an opportunity to be truthful in your next post. You could simply say "I know that illegals access welfare, but it is limited, and I'm glad they do." That won't be news to anyone on this thread.

I prefer to be factual. Citizen kids can get a small amount. Illegal parents can not.

 

[Care4all]

I think you might be adding stuff
I haven't seen this.
I will say that it's new and pretty clever.
But I would like to see it from a source other than you.

Nope.

The 14th already says who....ALL PERSONS born on our soil...but it also gives exceptions....only those persons subject to our jurisdiction...

So lets examine who the exceptions are, who are not subject to our jurisdiction when they are on US Soil....

- Foreign diplomats and Ambassadors and their family members with them, along with any foreign Royalty themselves are not under or subjects to our jurisdiction. Under International and US Law, these people above, have what is legally called, Diplomatic Immunity, and are not under our govt jurisdiction, if they commit a crime, they are not held or tried in the US, they are not under our jurisdiction to prosecute them...they are whisked up and returned to their foreign country. The foreign country may be able to prosecute them for any egregious crime committed.

-another group of people who are not under our govt jurisdiction, are wartime foreign enemy soldiers and family who even may be living on our soil...that is self explanatory...they are subject and under command by their foreign govt, not our govt and laws.

This would not be common today.

- at the time, native American Indians on a reservation were not subject to our laws and governing, but under the jurisdiction of tribal leadership, under a treaty or agreement signed with them.

Everyone else were subject to the laws within their state and federal governments. Subject to the states and fed jurisdiction.

Visitors, tourists, legal immigrants, illegal immigrants, citizens by birth or naturalized, British, French, or Spanish resident's child born here, etc etc etc....were all under US jurisdiction and had to and have to, answer to our laws...abide by them or if they break them, they can be charged and tried for the crimes by our govt in a court of law, given all legal protections like due process, Habeas Corpus, Miranda rights etc. that citizens get.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Many illegals were deported but don't ask me to explain Biden. The courts smacked him down when he (or someone in the administration) tried to make the argument.

Federal judge rejects Biden policy shielding immigrant spouses, children from deportation - Maryland Matters

A federal judge late Thursday struck down a White House policy that created a pathway to citizenship for people in the country lacking permanent status who were married to a U.S. citizen.

marylandmatters.org

Until then, Biden was shielding them. They were "achored" by their "babies."

No, they did not get benefits.

Just a bald faced lie, when I just showed you that they did and do.

I prefer to be factual. Citizen kids can get a small amount. Illegal parents can not.

So a six month old baby is in control of the benefits "they get?"

Or is it given to the illegal alien parent?

 

[pknopp]

Until then, Biden was shielding them. They were "achored" by their "babies."

Biden pretended they were until the courts smacked him and told him "no they are not".

Just a bald faced lie, when I just showed you that they did and do.

So a six month old baby is in control of the benefits "they get?"

Or is it given to the illegal alien parent?

You have countered nothing I've said. Illegals DO NOT qualify for welfare.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Biden pretended they were until the courts smacked him and told him "no they are not".

So, "anchor baby" is not something that doesn't exist. A made up definition to inflame the masses.

You have countered nothing I've said. Illegals DO NOT qualify for welfare.

Okay, so you're just last word trolling.

Good one.