now we know the truth

Pay for play. Billions missing from the PPP. Rooms for the Secret Service. Hundreds of millions from foreign governments. With the keys to the public Treasury, Trump didn't need a salary.
lies
 
Trump is a liar, a cheat, a grifter, and unfit for the job. Period.

After last night, I want them both gone. :)
This...is the choice we're down to.
Trump kicked Tater's ass. Your panic is hilarious
 
biden is too old

trump is too crazy and self dealing

our system is too partisan and unresponsive

is the only solution to lose this war and let the winners straighten us out or can we fix this ourselves?
We can fix this ourselves but it is going to require the general public to change our behavior. To become more involved in our own governance, to become better informed, to become the citizens we need to be to have a successful representative democracy.

There needs to be a reckoning about what is factual and what is not. We will fail if, for example, a large portion of the public is uninformed to the point they do not recognize a lie when they hear one.
 
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We can fix this ourselves but it is going to require the general public to change our behavior. To become more involved in our own governance, to become better informed, to become the citizens we need to be to have a successful representative democracy.

There needs to be a reckoning about what is factual and what is not. We will fail if, for example, a large portion of the public is uninformed to the point they do not recognize a lie when they hear one.
in fairness to biden, no one could have kept up with trump's bullshit.

the guy talks like page 1 of the national inquirer.
 
We can fix this ourselves but it is going to require the general public to change our behavior. To become more involved in our own governance, to become better informed, to become the citizens we need to be to have a successful representative democracy.

There needs to be a reckoning about what is factual and what is not. We will fail if, for example, a large portion of the public is uninformed to the point they do not recognize a lie when they hear one.
Agreed. STart with the Universities and the lies and propaganda they disseminate as fact.
 
Trump is a liar, a cheat, a grifter, and unfit for the job. Period.

After last night, I want them both gone. :)
This...is the choice we're down to.

Throwing your precious idiot Joe Biden under the bus now? It took you long enough. :laughing0301:
 
The sadest part is, democrats have no concern about Joe running the country like this

They are just pissed he might lose an election

That is the sick part.
For democrats, tribalism FAR outweighs the good of the nation. Its fucking disgusting.
 
Throwing your precious idiot Joe Biden under the bus now? It took you long enough. :laughing0301:
No. Not throwing him under the bus. Just lamenting the fact we have an old feeb and a complete asshole as our choices for President.
And don't get your hopes up Skippy. I don't think very many people changed their minds last night. :)
 
No. Not throwing him under the bus. Just lamenting the fact we have an old feeb and a complete asshole as our choices for President.
And don't get your hopes up Skippy. I don't think very many people changed their minds last night. :)
I'll take the asshole over the gink any day and twice on Sundays.
 
Self dealing? Trump served four years without taking a salary, and his organization actually lost money while he was President.

It's not like he sold political access to China, Russia, and Ukraine, like someone else we know.


Well, that's the sort of stuff they want us to forget, now that they're losing bigly.
 
Well, that's the sort of stuff they want us to forget, now that they're losing bigly.
I didn't torture myself with the dog-n-pony show last night, Caught the highlights (or in Pedo Joe's case, lowlights) on the local news and Trump was dripping confidence while old Joe was obviously struggling with the typical far Left talking points we're all sick of hearing.
 
Joe is doing a great job running the country, and he's fine. He had a cold and bad night.

If you believe that you are even more a a doddering old 30 cats lady than I thought you were.

Next its time to free Canada from Fidel Trudeau.
 
I'll take the asshole over the gink any day and twice on Sundays.
I won't. Cause the asshole is also a pathological liar. And has no real interest in what average American voters want or need.
He cares about himself only.
 
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