Now Trump wants help from allies, allies fed up with Trump say "no"

[Mac-7]

Ever heard of internet security? No? Well I have.

Until I got kicked off Facebook (permanently) a few weeks ago, my name was in Cyrillic, which was hilarious when the idiots started calling me Russian (as if Cyrillic is only used in Russia) and then I called them Romans because their name was written in the Roman alphabet.

I don't disclose my gender, where I was born, my nationality, where I live, my age and loads of other personal information.

The main reason is because of internet security, the second is because I'm not insecure and the third is because why would I give people who can't debate properly ammo to attack me with? I don't give a damn if you know where I was born or not. I let my arguments do the talking, not worrying about having to tell you which freaking state, country, city, planet, solar system, galaxy or universe I was born in.

Much of that applies go me also

But not to the extent of hiding in the bushes and attacking, always attacking

You are never FOR anything, least of all America

 

[frigidweirdo]

Much of that applies go me also

But not to the extent of hiding in the bushes and attacking, always attacking

You are never FOR anything, least of all America

Perhaps I'm just not for the America you envisage.

And if I'm not "FOR anything".... as you put it, then maybe that's just how I am.

I deal in FACTS. Not in emotion.

People who say "I'm a patriot", what does that mean? What is a patriot?

A Communist who loves their country would want their country to be Communist as they'd think that's the best. Same for fascists.

But I deal with what's there and if you find that problematic, then maybe you need to be logical and more based around facts, instead of creating a fantasy world for yourself to live in, where the US is always number one and the greatest.

I've been to 55 foreign countries. I've seen good and bad in them all.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Muslims do not belong in the US because Islam is a religion of violent conquest

Muslims do not assimulate

They colonize

Oh ******* please. How did America come about? RELIGIOUS CONQUEST with Columbus then the British and Spanish and French.

Look at the US right now. Taken out the Iraqi, Venezuelan, Iranian, Syrian, Afghani leadership. Based on what you're saying, those violent Muslims would be right at home, and the non-violent Muslims wouldn't be.

 

[toobfreak]

Is he protecting it? Seems like he went to attack Iran and NOW there's a threat to the oil supply that didn't exist before.

Oh really? You mean the oil has disappeared out of the ground?

Trump has a tendency of creating problems which he then has to fix

Right. Trump created Iran's nuclear program and global military and terrorist network trying to exterminate Israel and prepared to bomb and mine the Strait while telling the USA to fu if they know what's good for us while threatening us for 47 years declaring war against us taking us hostage and killing thousands of our soldiers while setting up terrorist cells here in the USA that Joe Biden kindly let in!

by.... withdrawing, like with Greenland.

You are the expert on withdrawing.

Do you realize that NATO is a defensive organization? Do you?

Really? Then why isn't NATO down there defending its global oil supply?

 

[forkup]

I never get tired of supporting America

You merely tolerate this country when it does something you want

But that turns into absolute hate when you dont get your way

You don't support America. You support Trump.

The reason I know this is because you support him when he disavows the US going into foreign countries, no matter how despicable their regime. And you also support him going into countries. No matter how peaceful.

So try to wrap yourself into the flag as much as you want. But we both know the flag is orange and tries to sell you 60 dollar bibles with his name on it.

 

[forkup]

Trump is being kind to the citizens of Iran up to now. We helped Europe twice in the 20th century. And even rebuilt it. Our friends. Our shortsighted friends. And the jitstain sellouts in our nation even added more NATO nations under Joe. Our friends.

You helped Europe twice. The first time after 3 years, millions of deaths and ONLY because you didn't like u boats posimg.a threat to US citizens. The second time after you had war declared ON YOU.

So don't act like it was a great act of kindness.

Not just that, Europe has been grateful nonetheless and has given the US an outsized influence in European and world affairs in the aftermath.

An influemce it has routinely abused and at no time worse than under this administration.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

You don't support America. You support Trump.

The reason I know this is because you support him when he disavows the US going into foreign countries, no matter how despicable their regime. And you also support him going into countries. No matter how peaceful.

So try to wrap yourself into the flag as much as you want. But we both know the flag is orange and tries to sell you 60 dollar bibles with his name on it.

Their opinions change with the wind..................

 

[Correll]

So, what percentage of people have 100% heritage from Native Americans then?

....

Why so many English names or Spanish names?

All the Founding Fathers were English citizens....

I think you're deluding yourself. Just as you delude yourself that Trump isn't screwing you over.

Because long ago, this land was settled by people from other places.

But, those peoples have now been here for centuries. Their distance descendents are now native born.

That you don't respect their Right to Self Determination, based on their race, is you being a racist.

In addition to be racist, your position is also ******* retarded and you are being an asshole about it.

 

[Correll]

Yeah, you said "you don't know what sex you are..." "don't know how to behave like sane people..."

This is MAGA "We have freedom to do whatever we want. Except you people, we don't like you people, you have to be like us, you have to be ignorant like us, because then we'll feel good about ourselves."

I said nothing about you having to be like us.

You made that up, so that you have an excuse to attack me and mine.


You are welcome to be weird. Go for it. Just don't pretend that you are not being weird.


And that we over here, are not NORMAL.

 

[Correll]

Does anyone need "credit" for being anywhere? Why are we talking about "credit"? Do you get special deals at Walmart for being born in the US?

In this context, in the context of discussion of immigration, you are using the fact of distant ancestry as a justification to deny modern whites, the Human Right of Self Determination.

That you are playing retard, and pretending to not get that, is just standard, dishonest leftard gaslighting.


Because if you were clear about the reasoning behind your vague and misleading rhetoric, then people would be repulsed by how ugly your ideas are.


And how clearly opposed to America and American interests.


Your whole argument is that because our distant ancestors came here from somewhere else, then we don't have the right to self determination.

THe right that you lefties insist on for EVERY OTHER RACIAL AND ETHNIC GROUP.


You are racist scum.

 

[Mac-7]

Perhaps I'm just not for the America you envisage.

And if I'm not "FOR anything".... as you put it, then maybe that's just how I am.

I deal in FACTS. Not in emotion.

People who say "I'm a patriot", what does that mean? What is a patriot?

A Communist who loves their country would want their country to be Communist as they'd think that's the best. Same for fascists.

But I deal with what's there and if you find that problematic, then maybe you need to be logical and more based around facts, instead of creating a fantasy world for yourself to live in, where the US is always number one and the greatest.

I've been to 55 foreign countries. I've seen good and bad in them all.

America cannot possibly be the totally horrible place that you think it is

This nation is the pinnacle of human development that can be achieved on earth short of the 2nd Coming

If thats emotion to you its something that America-hating libs could use more of

You do have to stick your neck out sometimes and for something rather than always against

 

[Mac-7]

Oh ******* please. How did America come about? RELIGIOUS CONQUEST with Columbus then the British and Spanish and French.

Look at the US right now. Taken out the Iraqi, Venezuelan, Iranian, Syrian, Afghani leadership. Based on what you're saying, those violent Muslims would be right at home, and the non-violent Muslims wouldn't be.

Do you think the world would be a better place if the people of this continent were living in tents and dragging their stuff around on skids that were pulled by other humans because they didnt even own a horse or know what a wheel is?

I dont

The natives were just as barbaric to each other as the treatment they got from the Spanish

 

[Hafar1014]

When Russia attacked Ukraine which is threat to Europe we stepped in. When Iran closed the straight and threatened the worlds oil supply where was NATO? They expect America to do all the work so they can fund their socialist economies. Raise their tariffs.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Oh really? You mean the oil has disappeared out of the ground?


Right. Trump created Iran's nuclear program and global military and terrorist network trying to exterminate Israel and prepared to bomb and mine the Strait while telling the USA to fu if they know what's good for us while threatening us for 47 years declaring war against us taking us hostage and killing thousands of our soldiers while setting up terrorist cells here in the USA that Joe Biden kindly let in!


You are the expert on withdrawing.


Really? Then why isn't NATO down there defending its global oil supply?

Either you're ******* stupid, or you're being deliberately obtuse. Either way, pointless.

 

[frigidweirdo]

When Russia attacked Ukraine which is threat to Europe we stepped in. When Iran closed the straight and threatened the worlds oil supply where was NATO? They expect America to do all the work so they can fund their socialist economies. Raise their tariffs.

That's not what NATO is for.

NATO is there when COUNTRIES ARE ATTACKED.

Not when their oil is under threat, not when a non-NATO country is invaded.

Learn something before speaking.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Do you think the world would be a better place if the people of this continent were living in tents and dragging their stuff around on skids that were pulled by other humans because they didnt even own a horse or know what a wheel is?

I dont

The natives were just as barbaric to each other as the treatment they got from the Spanish

Right... you came in an civilized them... and yet still seem to not be very civilized. Maybe you can go around "civilizing" the whole world.... but the problem is... Trump is about as civilized as a Neanderthal.

 

[frigidweirdo]

America cannot possibly be the totally horrible place that you think it is

This nation is the pinnacle of human development that can be achieved on earth short of the 2nd Coming

If thats emotion to you its something that America-hating libs could use more of

You do have to stick your neck out sometimes and for something rather than always against

Where did I say America was a "horrible place"?

However it's not the "pinnacle of human development" you think it is either.

But then I've seen other countries and seen what can be done. Have you?

 

[Hafar1014]

Wow, this is big, Israel will not be happy!



Israel has never, ever, ever admitted it has nukes, and here's trump basically telling the whole world that they do!

Everyone knows Israel has nukes but they are defensive. Iran intends to use theirs as soon as they can build them

 

[Hafar1014]

Let's be honest, Trump has built a large chunk of his campaign on bad-mouthing America's allies at every possible opportunity. Reap what you sow.....

America helped Europe when Russia invaded Ukraine. Now they do nothing and want us to do all the work so they can fund their socialist economies. Increase the tariffs on them

 

[braalian]

Wow, this is big, Israel will not be happy!



Israel has never, ever, ever admitted it has nukes, and here's trump basically telling the whole world that they do!

Everyone has known for decades that Israel has nukes