Now THIS is just WRONG.

Yes you can speak enough to say I CAN'T BREATHE!!! I've done it enough times when it happened to me when I was a kid with asthma. He DIED because he was strangled to death, Buc90. And he was not resisting arrest. He kept asking WHY, and they didn't answer. Would you like to be arrested and not be told why, then strangled, then gasp your last as they stood around?

Oy
You're told why when it's convenient, not during the altercation. He was selling cigarettes illegally so he was being an asshole. No, he didn't die on the sidewalk. He did resist, I saw the video. You have emotions but few facts.
 
He was not resisting to cause harm. I saw the vid when it first came out months ago. The guy was doing no harm to anyone. He didn't rob a store, bully a little guy, call cops a pussy, try to take a cops gun, beat someone to death with a hammer. He was not a thug. He was killed. Murdered. The cop knew there was a ban on choke holds. The cop got his badge yanked. The cop needed to be help accountable for at LEAST voluntary manslaughter because he KNEW what he was doing was not allowed but did it anyway. And the guy kept telling them with what little air he had left in his lungs gasping in as much as he could and it wasn't enough. He DIED.
That cop is responsible. Period.
 
Some of y'all can cut it anyway that floats your boats. WRONG IS WRONG.
 
No indictment for officer in NYC chokehold death - AOL.com

wtf??? This guy didn't rob a store, beat up a small clerk. He was minding his own business, just broke up a fight between two other people and he was MURDERED with a choke hold by a cop.

Yeah yeah. I said I was gonna take a small hiatus from here, but after seeing this on the news...I'm just PISSED.

With that said..no looting needs to take place, or rioting. What is needed is SANE JURORS. Geez. Where do they find these morons?

What I get for taking a 2 hour nap, whole world goes insane. Unlike Ferguson, this cop was guilty of excessive force and voluntary manslaughter.
No he wasn't.

He wasn't even indicted.

We have the rule of law, and you know there is no prejudice in New York.

There were five blacks on the grand jury, God knows how many Jews.
 
No indictment for officer in NYC chokehold death - AOL.com

wtf??? This guy didn't rob a store, beat up a small clerk. He was minding his own business, just broke up a fight between two other people and he was MURDERED with a choke hold by a cop.

Yeah yeah. I said I was gonna take a small hiatus from here, but after seeing this on the news...I'm just PISSED.

With that said..no looting needs to take place, or rioting. What is needed is SANE JURORS. Geez. Where do they find these morons?

What I get for taking a 2 hour nap, whole world goes insane. Unlike Ferguson, this cop was guilty of excessive force and voluntary manslaughter.
No he wasn't.

He wasn't even indicted.

We have the rule of law, and you know there is no prejudice in New York.

There were five blacks on the grand jury, God knows how many Jews.

He should of been indicted for excessive force. A chokehold is against the rules and he should pay for it.
 
He was not resisting to cause harm. I saw the vid when it first came out months ago. The guy was doing no harm to anyone. He didn't rob a store, bully a little guy, call cops a pussy, try to take a cops gun, beat someone to death with a hammer. He was not a thug. He was killed. Murdered. The cop knew there was a ban on choke holds. The cop got his badge yanked. The cop needed to be help accountable for at LEAST voluntary manslaughter because he KNEW what he was doing was not allowed but did it anyway. And the guy kept telling them with what little air he had left in his lungs gasping in as much as he could and it wasn't enough. He DIED.
That cop is responsible. Period.
He was selling poison and avoid paying taxes that go to feed the poor and homeless, as he as wont to do.

If he had been in prison as he should have been for robbing the poor of New York, he would be alive today.
 
No indictment for officer in NYC chokehold death - AOL.com

wtf??? This guy didn't rob a store, beat up a small clerk. He was minding his own business, just broke up a fight between two other people and he was MURDERED with a choke hold by a cop.

Yeah yeah. I said I was gonna take a small hiatus from here, but after seeing this on the news...I'm just PISSED.

With that said..no looting needs to take place, or rioting. What is needed is SANE JURORS. Geez. Where do they find these morons?

What I get for taking a 2 hour nap, whole world goes insane. Unlike Ferguson, this cop was guilty of excessive force and voluntary manslaughter.
No he wasn't.

He wasn't even indicted.

We have the rule of law, and you know there is no prejudice in New York.

There were five blacks on the grand jury, God knows how many Jews.

He should of been indicted for excessive force. A choke is against the rules and he should pay for it.
Violating police protocol is not a felony.

He may pay with a reprimand or a firing for the violation, but it was not a violation of the law.
 
No indictment for officer in NYC chokehold death - AOL.com

wtf??? This guy didn't rob a store, beat up a small clerk. He was minding his own business, just broke up a fight between two other people and he was MURDERED with a choke hold by a cop.

Yeah yeah. I said I was gonna take a small hiatus from here, but after seeing this on the news...I'm just PISSED.

With that said..no looting needs to take place, or rioting. What is needed is SANE JURORS. Geez. Where do they find these morons?

What I get for taking a 2 hour nap, whole world goes insane. Unlike Ferguson, this cop was guilty of excessive force and voluntary manslaughter.
He died of a heart attack later in the hospital.

Brought on by the chokehold and dogpile restricting his breathing. Could see that in the video. Given the offense being investigated was minor, the proper course of action would have been to write him a ticket, not arrest him. That was bad policework. Situation got out of hand when the cop did the chokehold from behind. Yes, he was resisting arrest, yes he was a big guy vs little cops, but considering his crime was selling individual cigarettes not marked for individual sale, was it necessary to arrest him at all? Was it just he died because of the decision to arrest him?

Sometimes the answers are clear, sometimes they aren't. This time the answer is on video and thus the speculation required is nil. He was the victim of overzealous cops acting unprofessionally.
You a doctor?

In some parts of the world D4E is known as "Dr DoesLIttles"

:rofl:
 
Oh come on. Thats kind of a stretch, ain't it roadrunner? Stores sell "poison" every day. I know cuz I buy it myself. They also sell booze. That ain't poison either? *eye roll*.
 
No indictment for officer in NYC chokehold death - AOL.com

wtf??? This guy didn't rob a store, beat up a small clerk. He was minding his own business, just broke up a fight between two other people and he was MURDERED with a choke hold by a cop.

Yeah yeah. I said I was gonna take a small hiatus from here, but after seeing this on the news...I'm just PISSED.

With that said..no looting needs to take place, or rioting. What is needed is SANE JURORS. Geez. Where do they find these morons?

What I get for taking a 2 hour nap, whole world goes insane. Unlike Ferguson, this cop was guilty of excessive force and voluntary manslaughter.
He died of a heart attack later in the hospital.

Brought on by the chokehold and dogpile restricting his breathing. Could see that in the video. Given the offense being investigated was minor, the proper course of action would have been to write him a ticket, not arrest him. That was bad policework. Situation got out of hand when the cop did the chokehold from behind. Yes, he was resisting arrest, yes he was a big guy vs little cops, but considering his crime was selling individual cigarettes not marked for individual sale, was it necessary to arrest him at all? Was it just he died because of the decision to arrest him?

Sometimes the answers are clear, sometimes they aren't. This time the answer is on video and thus the speculation required is nil. He was the victim of overzealous cops acting unprofessionally.
You can't give someone a ticket when they have an arrest warrant.

Oh, didn't know he had a warrant. Changes things somewhat. Excessive force and voluntary manslaughter remains though. Chokeholds have been banned for a while, so using a forbidden hold to subdue a subject is the excessive force. And that he died as a result of it is the voluntary manslaughter (since using a hold which deprives someone of needed air to breathe is potentially lethal, and in this instance was.)

All the warrant changes in the liability of the other officers in the dogpile. Having an arrest warrane justifies the dogpile and arrest. But not the chokehold.
Grand jury didn't think so.

That is all that matters.

Five dollars and your opinion won't get you a cup of coffee in NYC.
 
Probably because the chokehold didn't kill him. He died later in the hospital of a massive heart attack.
Nothing I read said that.

Anyhow, he was not just some guy minding his own business. He was a huge guy resisting arrest. The debatable choke hold was seen as the cause of accidental death it appears.

What I heard is the choke hold used was a procedure banned by the NYPD, but not illegal. I guess the line in blurry, but if you watch the video Garner is not being placed in a choke hold for a very long time. One wouldn't expect someone would die from that. I think the attention was just to subdue Garner so they could arrest him. It's a tragedy.
Looked to me like the cop grabbed the neck as they were going down, and then another cop stepped in front of the camera.

The guy was illegally selling poison and avoiding taxes meant to help the poor and homeless of NYC.

Tough shit
 
Yes you can speak enough to say I CAN'T BREATHE!!! I've done it enough times when it happened to me when I was a kid with asthma. He DIED because he was strangled to death, Buc90. And he was not resisting arrest. He kept asking WHY, and they didn't answer. Would you like to be arrested and not be told why, then strangled, then gasp your last as they stood around?

Oy
You are telling me this guy with 30 arrests on his rap sheet, standing there selling bootleg cigarettes to avoid paying taxes that help feed the poor and homeless, had no idea at all what the cops wanted with him.

BULLSHIT!

Obesity killed him.

Nothing else.
 
He was not resisting to cause harm. I saw the vid when it first came out months ago. The guy was doing no harm to anyone. He didn't rob a store, bully a little guy, call cops a pussy, try to take a cops gun, beat someone to death with a hammer. He was not a thug. He was killed. Murdered. The cop knew there was a ban on choke holds. The cop got his badge yanked. The cop needed to be help accountable for at LEAST voluntary manslaughter because he KNEW what he was doing was not allowed but did it anyway. And the guy kept telling them with what little air he had left in his lungs gasping in as much as he could and it wasn't enough. He DIED.
That cop is responsible. Period.
Find a statute that mentions resisting with intent to do harm.

Resisting is resisting.

He was doing harm, he was illegally selling poison, probably STOLEN poison, to avoid paying taxes that feed the poor and homeless.

The cop may have lost his job for violating protocol, but he did not break the law.
 
No indictment for officer in NYC chokehold death - AOL.com

wtf??? This guy didn't rob a store, beat up a small clerk. He was minding his own business, just broke up a fight between two other people and he was MURDERED with a choke hold by a cop.

Yeah yeah. I said I was gonna take a small hiatus from here, but after seeing this on the news...I'm just PISSED.

With that said..no looting needs to take place, or rioting. What is needed is SANE JURORS. Geez. Where do they find these morons?
not exactly. This might be the guy was selling individual ciaggarettes on the corner and was warned by police not to do it again. He came back anyway. That might be the guy.

Doesn't exonerate the cops BUT he was told not to do something by peace officers and he ignored them.
 

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