Now the Washington Post Admits Trump Did Not Incite the Capitol Riot

Anyone that heard his speech knows he said to peaceably go to the capitol.

Followed by an hour of lies and incitements. But it was a planned thing of course, as he helped gather the tender for the fire he started.
You are losing it.....you hear what you are told to hear...like a good little brown shirt Nazi....

He said it around the 15 minute mark in and hour and 13 minute speech.

Orange shirt Squealer. #stopthesqueal#

He incited the crowd to do something:
We’re going walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators, and congressmen and women. We’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong.
Donald Trump: (18:16)
We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated. I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. Today we will see whether Republicans stand strong for integrity of our elections, but whether or not they stand strong for our country, our country. Our country has been under siege for a long time, far longer than this four-year period. We’ve set it on a much straighter course, a much … I thought four more years. I thought it would be easy. We created-

Whether he knew people in the mob had already planned to attack congress, and thereby commit treason, still isn't factually supported one way or another ,,,, YET

You are a POOR reader....

from YOUR quote:

"We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated. I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."


He should have said that at the end of his insurrection pep rally, instead of the beginning. Might help his defense then.

Gawad!

He and most of his listeners were still at the WHITE HOUSE when the riots started at the Capital, he finish his speech around 15-20 AFTER the riot started, which was 1 1/2 MILES away.

I have yet to read of his telling them to attack anyone or break into the building in the speech, while I can easily post his statement that they make their protest peaceful.


When did they actually break through the barriers?

When did Trump finally make a public statement?

Ha ha ha, you have nothing.... that is YOUR problem.

I have already quoted what Trump said that SPEFICALLY asks the crowd to march in protest peacefully.

Your unawareness of the time frames are your undoing.
 
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Now the Washington Post Admits Trump Did Not Incite the Capitol Riot

BY MATT MARGOLIS JAN 20, 2021

Excerpt:

With the second bogus impeachment in the books, the Washington Post has finally seen fit to admit that President Trump did not incite the storming of the U.S. Capitol on January 6 with his speech, acknowledging that it was, in fact, planned in advance.

The article, published Tuesday, the day before Biden’s inauguration, declares in its headline “Self-styled militia members planned on storming the U.S. Capitol days in advance of Jan. 6 attack, court documents say” and opens with the following paragraphs.

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The obvious is finally admitted, Trump never incited the riot.

I knew that from the start since reading the transcript of the speech.
its hardly an admission. The fact that there wasn’t a up front planning doesn’t
exhonerate Trump. He‘s still complicit. If you see someone planning a crime and you rile them up to carry it out, you’re still complicit. When they’re to told to engage in Trial by Combat, you’re complicit. When you tell someone to stop the count, you’re still complicit.

and I’m betting you didn’t read the entire transcript. And I know you didn’t read any of it objectively.

WaPo didn’t admit to anything. But I find it interesting that NOW youre using WaPo as a source.
 
its hardly an admission. The fact that there wasn’t a up front planning doesn’t
exhonerate Trump. He‘s still complicit. If you see someone planning a crime and you rile them up to carry it out, you’re still complicit. When they’re to told to engage in Trial by Combat, you’re complicit. When you tell someone to stop the count, you’re still complicit.

and I’m betting you didn’t read the entire transcript. And I know you didn’t read any of it objectively.

WaPo didn’t admit to anything. But I find it interesting that NOW youre using WaPo as a source.

And yet if we use one of our own sources, your first response would be they aren't credible because they are right-wing.
 
He and most of his listeners were still at the WHITE HOUSE when the riots started at the Capital, he finish his speech around 15-20 AFTER the riot started, which was 1 1/2 MILES away.

His Speech ended a little after 1. The rioter didn't breach the police lines to invade and shut down Congress until around 2. Plenty of time for the crowd to move the mile and a half.
 
Anyone that heard his speech knows he said to peaceably go to the capitol.

Followed by an hour of lies and incitements. But it was a planned thing of course, as he helped gather the tender for the fire he started.
You are losing it.....you hear what you are told to hear...like a good little brown shirt Nazi....

He said it around the 15 minute mark in and hour and 13 minute speech.

Orange shirt Squealer. #stopthesqueal#

He incited the crowd to do something:
We’re going walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators, and congressmen and women. We’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong.
Donald Trump: (18:16)
We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated. I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. Today we will see whether Republicans stand strong for integrity of our elections, but whether or not they stand strong for our country, our country. Our country has been under siege for a long time, far longer than this four-year period. We’ve set it on a much straighter course, a much … I thought four more years. I thought it would be easy. We created-

Whether he knew people in the mob had already planned to attack congress, and thereby commit treason, still isn't factually supported one way or another ,,,, YET

You are a POOR reader....

from YOUR quote:

"We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated. I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."


He should have said that at the end of his insurrection pep rally, instead of the beginning. Might help his defense then.

Gawad!

He and most of his listeners were still at the WHITE HOUSE when the riots started at the Capital, he finish his speech around 15-20 AFTER the riot started, which was 1 1/2 MILES away.

I have yet to read of his telling them to attack anyone or break into the building in the speech, while I can easily post his statement that they make their protest peaceful.


When did they actually break through the barriers?

When did Trump finally make a public statement?

Ha ha ha, you have nothing.... that is YOUR problem.

I have already quoted what Trump said that SPEFICALLY asks the crown to march in protest peacefully.

Your unawareness of the time frames are your undoing.
One halfhearted disclaimer cant undo all the rhetoric that came before. Trump fired up the crowd, encourage them to stop Congress, and asked people to march with him to the Capitol building.

Trump was DELIGHTED by the riot and couldnt understand why his staffers didn’t share his enthusiasm. Trump fueled The riot. Of that, there is no doubt.
 
Anyone that heard his speech knows he said to peaceably go to the capitol....this was as big a hoax and fraud as the elections were....if you libs want to be stupid have at it...stop trying to spread your stupidity here.....

Then when it very quickly went from peaceful to violent...why was he silent for hours as he watched?
Silent and not taking any action while it was obvious to anyone watching TV, which he was doing, that the police were overrun, and congress was only protected by a few outnumbered cops with nothing more than handguns and a few bullets.

Ya. That is absolutely damning.
Well the results of the election showed the verdict on his leadership and moral vacuum. We generally reelect presidents to a second term unless they're REAL bad.
Anyone that heard his speech knows he said to peaceably go to the capitol....this was as big a hoax and fraud as the elections were....if you libs want to be stupid have at it...stop trying to spread your stupidity here.....

Then when it very quickly went from peaceful to violent...why was he silent for hours as he watched?
Silent and not taking any action while it was obvious to anyone watching TV, which he was doing, that the police were overrun, and congress was only protected by a few outnumbered cops with nothing more than handguns and a few bullets.

Ya. That is absolutely damning.

The President has no authority over the D.C. police who were warned by the FBI ahead of time of groups planning to riot. The DC. Police didn't take it seriously.

That is what you and other leftists keeps ignoring.
That didn't present a problem for him, the DoJ and Dept of Defense at Lafayette Sq.
 
Quote the part where WaPo absolves Trump.

They are not in a position to absolve anything. They are in a position to report actual facts.

And? Where did they state Trump wasn't responsible? Here's your chance to prove your right wing sources got something correct. Stop trying to weasel out.

They report, you decide. And if you had a lick of common sense, even you have to conclude what they (and others) reported was that this was not a spontaneous attack, which means it had absolutely nothing to do with Trump's speech given at the same time. It was planned as the FBI reported. In other words, the commies impeached a President for bogus reasons. They made the entire thing up, just like Republicans are going to do when we impeach creepy Joe after we get control of the House in 2022. But......I don't want to hear you sheep crying about it, because remember, it's the commies that created this new impeachment precedent.

It had everything to do with these clowns listening to Trump for two months talk about a stolen election. If Trump had simply conceded this wouldn't have happened.
It may not have happened. You don't know this. Are we going to guess together until you are triggered again and begin swearing?

Begin swearing? Oh, you're dainty ears.

The OP made a claim and the source material doesn't show that.
Not what your post said. Your post stated this:
If Trump had simply conceded this wouldn't have happened.

That is a 100% guess on your part. I believe our News Entertainment Media caused this vs. Trump. Opinions are allowed to vary. The optics were bad and therein lies the problem.

If you removed the spark you don't have a fire. The responsbile media never claimed the election was stolen which was the cause cÊlèbre of the redneck revolt.

Going back to the OP. WaPo never "admitted" that Trump wasn't responsible.
Neither you nor I are the experts on "responsible media". Maxine Watters incited violence when Trump won in 2016 and CNN stated on air that no one said protests have to be peaceful. You really need to get in the real world. The News Entertainment Media is dividing this country. If you cannot see that you're blind.

Did WAPO state that "Trump was 100% responsible"?

Sure, bud. Take your sad sack feelings and slither away.

The WaPo didn't say what the OP stated and you appear to have given up arguing that point because as per usual, you guys usually lose.
You're moving goal posts. The OP stated the article inferred it. You may take it up with him. Maybe you should stop making definitive statements on your educated guesses. You're such a sad excuse for a human being. Snowflake.

The title of the thread more than just infers it. However the article doesn't even go that far.

Now the Washington Post Admits Trump Did Not Incite the Capitol Riot

My educated guess consisted of reading the article and comparing it to the claims of the OP and seeing they do not match. If your only argument against that is I'm just guessing then you have just lost every future argument you make on this board.
So you didn't say this?

If Trump had simply conceded this wouldn't have happened.

Yes or no?

I did. If Trump had conceded there wouldn't have been a cause for the riot since they were there to interfere with the election process.
And my point is that is a 100% guess on your part. Stop making your guesses seem like definitive statements.

We already knew some who were arrested (like coyote boi) stated they were following Trump. If you remove the reason for the insurrection there would be no reason for the attempt to interfere with the peaceful transfer of power.


Speaking of this definitive statement argument of yours, it appears desperate since you're not known to stick to the facts. And if you're only interested in definitive statements then you'd have to agree that the OP is making a declaration that hasn't been proven.
you're not known to stick to the facts.

LMAO....says the person who makes up their own facts. Give me ONE example where I do not stick to facts. You're such a cowardly leftist.

Haven't made up anything.

Just pointing out that the reason these idiots committed acts of insurrection just happens to align with Trump's claims of election fraud. Often spouted here by the likes of people like you.
"People like you"...Jews?

How Nazi of you. Keep broad brushing. That is the tool of the left. I have Dragonlady's quote in my sig. She is people like you...Fair? If you combine us all together then I can do the same for you. Great.
 
its hardly an admission. The fact that there wasn’t a up front planning doesn’t
exhonerate Trump. He‘s still complicit. If you see someone planning a crime and you rile them up to carry it out, you’re still complicit. When they’re to told to engage in Trial by Combat, you’re complicit. When you tell someone to stop the count, you’re still complicit.

and I’m betting you didn’t read the entire transcript. And I know you didn’t read any of it objectively.

WaPo didn’t admit to anything. But I find it interesting that NOW youre using WaPo as a source.

And yet if we use one of our own sources, your first response would be they aren't credible because they are right-wing.
No, political orientation isn’t the determinant of credibility
 
Then when it very quickly went from peaceful to violent...why was he silent for hours as he watched?

I guess for the same reason we didn't hear from DumBama during the Benghazi attack. He went to bed because he had to get up for a fund raiser in Vegas the next morning.
 
Quote the part where WaPo absolves Trump.

They are not in a position to absolve anything. They are in a position to report actual facts.

And? Where did they state Trump wasn't responsible? Here's your chance to prove your right wing sources got something correct. Stop trying to weasel out.

They report, you decide. And if you had a lick of common sense, even you have to conclude what they (and others) reported was that this was not a spontaneous attack, which means it had absolutely nothing to do with Trump's speech given at the same time. It was planned as the FBI reported. In other words, the commies impeached a President for bogus reasons. They made the entire thing up, just like Republicans are going to do when we impeach creepy Joe after we get control of the House in 2022. But......I don't want to hear you sheep crying about it, because remember, it's the commies that created this new impeachment precedent.

It had everything to do with these clowns listening to Trump for two months talk about a stolen election. If Trump had simply conceded this wouldn't have happened.
It may not have happened. You don't know this. Are we going to guess together until you are triggered again and begin swearing?

Begin swearing? Oh, you're dainty ears.

The OP made a claim and the source material doesn't show that.
Not what your post said. Your post stated this:
If Trump had simply conceded this wouldn't have happened.

That is a 100% guess on your part. I believe our News Entertainment Media caused this vs. Trump. Opinions are allowed to vary. The optics were bad and therein lies the problem.

If you removed the spark you don't have a fire. The responsbile media never claimed the election was stolen which was the cause cÊlèbre of the redneck revolt.

Going back to the OP. WaPo never "admitted" that Trump wasn't responsible.
Neither you nor I are the experts on "responsible media". Maxine Watters incited violence when Trump won in 2016 and CNN stated on air that no one said protests have to be peaceful. You really need to get in the real world. The News Entertainment Media is dividing this country. If you cannot see that you're blind.

Did WAPO state that "Trump was 100% responsible"?

Sure, bud. Take your sad sack feelings and slither away.

The WaPo didn't say what the OP stated and you appear to have given up arguing that point because as per usual, you guys usually lose.
You're moving goal posts. The OP stated the article inferred it. You may take it up with him. Maybe you should stop making definitive statements on your educated guesses. You're such a sad excuse for a human being. Snowflake.

The title of the thread more than just infers it. However the article doesn't even go that far.

Now the Washington Post Admits Trump Did Not Incite the Capitol Riot

My educated guess consisted of reading the article and comparing it to the claims of the OP and seeing they do not match. If your only argument against that is I'm just guessing then you have just lost every future argument you make on this board.
So you didn't say this?

If Trump had simply conceded this wouldn't have happened.

Yes or no?

I did. If Trump had conceded there wouldn't have been a cause for the riot since they were there to interfere with the election process.
And my point is that is a 100% guess on your part. Stop making your guesses seem like definitive statements.

We already knew some who were arrested (like coyote boi) stated they were following Trump. If you remove the reason for the insurrection there would be no reason for the attempt to interfere with the peaceful transfer of power.


Speaking of this definitive statement argument of yours, it appears desperate since you're not known to stick to the facts. And if you're only interested in definitive statements then you'd have to agree that the OP is making a declaration that hasn't been proven.
you're not known to stick to the facts.

LMAO....says the person who makes up their own facts. Give me ONE example where I do not stick to facts. You're such a cowardly leftist.

Haven't made up anything.

Just pointing out that the reason these idiots committed acts of insurrection just happens to align with Trump's claims of election fraud. Often spouted here by the likes of people like you.
"People like you"...Jews?

How Nazi of you. Keep broad brushing. That is the tool of the left. I have Dragonlady's quote in my sig. She is people like you...Fair? If you combine us all together then I can do the same for you. Great.

That's a weird reply. I meant the mob of gullible deplorables who believed Trump and Q anon lies for 4 years.
 
Then when it very quickly went from peaceful to violent...why was he silent for hours as he watched?

I guess for the same reason we didn't hear from DumBama during the Benghazi attack. He went to bed because he had to get up for a fund raiser in Vegas the next morning.
What does that have to do with anything. Are you saying Trump used Benghazi as his motivation for inciting a riot? I wish he would have told us. But I doubt I would have accepted that as justification. I doubt that I would’ve even see that as relevant.
 
So, to clarify, The Washington Post said nothing about Trump not inciting a riot, and the title of this thread is fiction.


TRY AGAIN. If it involved weapons, which COULD NOT have come from Trump's rally or the people there since all people getting within a mile of any president are routinely SCREENED so as to not carry anything which could be a threat to him, and since analysis shows the rioters breaching the high walls had advance planning days in advance wearing special garb and with special skills carrying weapons, and that no one at the rally was dressed as militia, that the riot was PLANNED and prepared for well (days) in advance and did not and COULD NOT have simply sprung spontaneously from anything at the rally nor anything Trump said at that rally, therefore he could not have and DID NOT "incite" anyone nor anything with his speech and once again, Nancy, the democrats and the MSM are caught exposed with their pants around their ankles LYING AGAIN and Nancy's 2nd impeachment was about as much BULLSHIT as was the first.

Indeed, I highly suspect the entire "insurrection" was manufactured for a twofold purpose. Indeed, there was a historic LACK of security around the Capitol that day as if they knew and were INTENDING these people to come!

  1. The Insurrection served as the idea justification, seeing how Trump's popularity had NOT sagged as expected after four years of leftwing hammering, indeed had grown STRONGER and so was likely to run again and get reelected in the future, so justified another impeachment in the hope of convicting him of the heinous crime of being popular so to never threaten the Left again.
  2. The insurrection served as the ideal justification for locking down the city, building it as a fortress of security to explain the dearth of people there because study groups showed there would be a grave few people there actually interested in coming there ending in an embarrassing SMALLEST INAUGURATION IN HISTORY as SO FEW PEOPLE ACTUALLY VOTED FOR JOE, highlighting the fact that no one likes the guy and most of his votes were just votes AGAINST Trump, and bringing back into focus the question again of the whole election and how a boob like Biden could have honestly gotten an historic EIGHTY-ONE MILLION VOTES.
 
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Trump didn't murder an unarmed woman in cold blood.

Believing his lies led her to her death.

A still unidentified police officer did with the approval and backing of leftist cheer leaders like you.

Justifiable homicide, deserves a medal for protecting Congress.

If anyone's sphincter should be closing up......

Yeah ol'Trumpybear probable didn't snap to it until his lawyer, whose anal sphincter was working overtime, told him what that means.
 
its hardly an admission. The fact that there wasn’t a up front planning doesn’t
exhonerate Trump. He‘s still complicit. If you see someone planning a crime and you rile them up to carry it out, you’re still complicit. When they’re to told to engage in Trial by Combat, you’re complicit. When you tell someone to stop the count, you’re still complicit.

and I’m betting you didn’t read the entire transcript. And I know you didn’t read any of it objectively.

WaPo didn’t admit to anything. But I find it interesting that NOW youre using WaPo as a source.

And yet if we use one of our own sources, your first response would be they aren't credible because they are right-wing.
No, political orientation isn’t the determinant of credibility
And ironically …. even giving Trump the benefit of every doubt as to what he knew contemporaneously as the riot/then assault on police and then treason/insurrection unfolded …. you have his best defense as : he's a person with no moral compass who operates for his own benefit even has harm befalls others and he has power to stop it BUT he was not complicit in INTENTIONALLY causing any of it.

The result of the election pretty much rendered that verdict on his presidency. And we do reelect even poor presidents to a second term, unless they are as bad as Carter or essentially filling out a 3rd term like HW. So, generally speaking America should just let it go.

But there is that possibility that he was an active conspirator.
 
Indeed, I highly suspect the entire "insurrection" was manufactured for a twofold purpose. Indeed, there was a historic LACK of security around the Capitol that day as if they knew and were INTENDING these people to come!
QAnuts like you HIGHLY suspect a lot of things, without ever offering anything but theories and bolder fonts.
 
I really don't know. Francis Beevers of the Carolinas really doesn't want us to find out what Trump did and chose not to do on an insurrection. If we call it treason, that has unfortunate connotations because Trump led the calls that the election was illegal and must be stopped. But what Trump did and didn't do specifically about preplanning an assault on congresspeople … and then sending in help to protect congress …. hopefully the impeachment trial will make that clear

I doubt if there will even be any impeachment trial. It's a shame taxpayers have to waste money like this just so the commies can try to stop Trump from running again. Of course it's not the first time they've used our money yet alone our agencies for their political agendas. If they try, I'm sure Trump will see it to the Supreme Court because you can't remove a President who's already out of office.
 
Anyone that heard his speech knows he said to peaceably go to the capitol.

Followed by an hour of lies and incitements. But it was a planned thing of course, as he helped gather the tender for the fire he started.
You are losing it.....you hear what you are told to hear...like a good little brown shirt Nazi....

He said it around the 15 minute mark in and hour and 13 minute speech.

Orange shirt Squealer. #stopthesqueal#

He incited the crowd to do something:
We’re going walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators, and congressmen and women. We’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong.
Donald Trump: (18:16)
We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated. I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. Today we will see whether Republicans stand strong for integrity of our elections, but whether or not they stand strong for our country, our country. Our country has been under siege for a long time, far longer than this four-year period. We’ve set it on a much straighter course, a much … I thought four more years. I thought it would be easy. We created-

Whether he knew people in the mob had already planned to attack congress, and thereby commit treason, still isn't factually supported one way or another ,,,, YET

You are a POOR reader....

from YOUR quote:

"We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated. I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."


He should have said that at the end of his insurrection pep rally, instead of the beginning. Might help his defense then.

Gawad!

He and most of his listeners were still at the WHITE HOUSE when the riots started at the Capital, he finish his speech around 15-20 AFTER the riot started, which was 1 1/2 MILES away.

I have yet to read of his telling them to attack anyone or break into the building in the speech, while I can easily post his statement that they make their protest peaceful.


When did they actually break through the barriers?

When did Trump finally make a public statement?

Ha ha ha, you have nothing.... that is YOUR problem.

I have already quoted what Trump said that SPEFICALLY asks the crowd to march in protest peacefully.

Your unawareness of the time frames are your undoing.
And your blindness belief in Trumps lies has proven to be YOUR undoing.
 
I really don't know. Francis Beevers of the Carolinas really doesn't want us to find out what Trump did and chose not to do on an insurrection. If we call it treason, that has unfortunate connotations because Trump led the calls that the election was illegal and must be stopped. But what Trump did and didn't do specifically about preplanning an assault on congresspeople … and then sending in help to protect congress …. hopefully the impeachment trial will make that clear

I doubt if there will even be any impeachment trial. It's a shame taxpayers have to waste money like this just so the commies can try to stop Trump from running again. Of course it's not the first time they've used our money yet alone our agencies for their political agendas. If they try, I'm sure Trump will see it to the Supreme Court because you can't remove a President who's already out of office.
According to the Constitution, removal from office isn’t the only consequence of conviction. And Section 2 Article 3 states specifically that the Senate has the sole power to conduct a trial of all impeachment’s. Note the WORD all. It offers no exclusions.
 
Then when it very quickly went from peaceful to violent...why was he silent for hours as he watched?

I guess for the same reason we didn't hear from DumBama during the Benghazi attack. He went to bed because he had to get up for a fund raiser in Vegas the next morning.

Prove he went to bed. We know he didn't have a fund raiser the next morning in Vegas because Obama gave a speech from the Rose Garden at about 10 the next morning, after everyone from the compound had been rescued and evacuated from Benghazi. He did have a fund raiser that night but it was all over in Benghazi when he left DC.
 
According to the Constitution, removal from office isn’t the only consequence of conviction. And Section 2 Article 3 states specifically that the Senate has the sole power to conduct a trial of all impeachment’s. Note the WORD all. It offers no exclusions.

Tell that to Democrat constitutional expert Alan Dershowitz. He said if they try to pull a stunt like that, he would gladly offer his services because the entire intent of impeachment IS to remove a President from office.
 

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