Now it's a basic law: The State of Israel is the national home of the Jewish people

[cnm]

So you can't say what it means? Poor hasbara.

 

[cnm]

But also countries like Ireland,

Yeah? Where does the Constitution of Eire give the right of self determination to a religious sect?
https://www.taoiseach.gov.ie/eng/Hi...unreacht_na_hÉireann_October_2015_Edition.pdf

 

[cnm]

For those who continue to demonize Israel for its new Basic Law, here is Palestine's Basic Law:

So you're just like the Arabs, the people you insist you are different from. Now that's proper hasbara.

 

[cnm]

But also countries like Ireland, Spain, Latvia, Slovakia, Greece, Poland. There are dozens more. Easier, perhaps, to name the countries which don't have a national heritage and culture embedded in their constitution.

But Israel has embedded a religion, thereby excluding a portion of its population. Segregation, apartheid.

 

[rylah]

Interesting and disturbing. I guess this doesn’t bode well for the Arab Israeli citizens down the road.

What is disturbing about it? Before you answer, have you read the declarations of independence and constitutions of other States? Which ones? Because there is nothing disturbing in this law. It's as typical as dozens of other States.

Because Arab was the language there for centuries. It seems it is aime at furthet marginslizing the Arab population. Canada has two, foe example. I think an Arab Israeli citizen would have a hard time feeling a fully equal citizen. The part about Jewish settlements....can Arab Israeli's live in them or expand their own with equak access to land and rezources under this? What is really disturbing are the portions that wete eventually rejected.

There are dozens of nations which have one official language and minority populations. Spain, for example, requires all citizens to speak Castilian even if their mother tongue is Catalan or Basque.

And current law in Israel permits Arabs to have Arab-only settlements while forbidding Jews to do the same. Much like Jews are not permitted to worship, pray or equally access the Temple Mount.

It is hypocrisy to demand something of Israel that is not demanded of other nations. Have you read the constitutions of other nations? For that matter have you read the Palestinian one?

What law forbids Jews from living in Arab settlements?

I'd have to look it up. Read it in Eugene Kontorovitch's article this morning.

And who are discriminated against in tenders for construction? Unexpectedly the Jews
Israel Land Authority tenders in Arab communities are open to "local residents" only, while in Jewish communities the tenders appeal to everyone.

The "Israel Today" test reveals that while tenders for land offered for sale by ILA in small Arab communities are only open to " Local residents , "tenders for land in small Jewish communities do not show a similar reservation .

A review of about 200 tenders for the sale of state land, which are published on the Authority's website, shows the same picture. The land is offered for sale through tenders published on its website and open to private purchasers.

According to the policy of the Israel Lands Authority, in tenders of small localities or localities in national priority areas, only part of the land can be allocated to members of the community. Moreover, when it comes to minority communities, even 100 percent of the land can be allocated to local residents.

 

[cnm]

You have a lot to say about Israel who does have Arabs but when it pertains to the Arab World with their bigotry and intolerance towards the Jewish people and many of those Countries don’t have any Jewish residents there is no response. Typical
Pro Palestinian Mentality of an.

I'm quite happy to say Israel behaves like Arab nations, which I don't consider to be 'western' democracies.

 

[Shusha]

But also countries like Ireland,

Yeah? Where does the Constitution of Eire give the right of self determination to a religious sect?
https://www.taoiseach.gov.ie/eng/Historical_Information/The_Constitution/Bunreacht_na_hÉireann_October_2015_Edition.pdf

Well, the first hump to get over is that the Jewish people are an indigenous ethnic group and not a religion. While religion is PART of their ethnicity, their ethnicity is distinct and stands on its own grounds just as Irish ethnicity does.

Ireland was mentioned for a couple of reasons:

1. Its notation of the "Irish Nation" (not unlike the Jewish Nation) and affinity to Irish people living abroad. The Irish nation hereby affirms its inalienable, indefeasible, and sovereign right to choose its own form of Government, to determine its relations with other nations, and to develop its life, political, economic and cultural, in accordance with its own genius and traditions. (emphasis mine). ... The Irish nation cherishes its special affinity with people of Irish ancestry living abroad who share its cultural identity and heritage. (emphasis mine)

2. Special consideration for only one religion In the Name of the Most Holy Trinity, from Whom is all authority and to Whom, as our final end, all actions both of men and States must be referred, We, the people of Éire, Humbly acknowledging all our obligations to our Divine Lord, Jesus Christ, Who sustained our fathers through centuries of trial...

 

[Sixties Fan]

So you can't say what it means? Poor hasbara.

What it means it that you have no idea how many Arab countries are a Democracy.

 

[Sixties Fan]

For those who continue to demonize Israel for its new Basic Law, here is Palestine's Basic Law:

So you're just like the Arabs, the people you insist you are different from. Now that's proper hasbara.

Arabs have done their best, and succeeded, in allowing no Jews to live in Arab conquered lands since 1950.

Israel has nearly 20% of its population of Arab decent.

So much for your snotty remarks.

 

[Shusha]

But also countries like Ireland, Spain, Latvia, Slovakia, Greece, Poland. There are dozens more. Easier, perhaps, to name the countries which don't have a national heritage and culture embedded in their constitution.

But Israel has embedded a religion, thereby excluding a portion of its population. Segregation, apartheid.

Actually, Israel has NOT embedded a religion, unlike many Arab and Christian states. There is no official religion in Israel. That was not included in the Basic Law, though it could have been.

Many nations, built around a single ethnic culture, including Ireland, address only that specific culture in their constitution. Are you saying Ireland is apartheid for not addressing its non-Christian minorities in its constitution?

 

[Shusha]

Also, there is nothing in Israel's Basic Law demanding segregation. That is just a lie.

 

[Sixties Fan]

But also countries like Ireland, Spain, Latvia, Slovakia, Greece, Poland. There are dozens more. Easier, perhaps, to name the countries which don't have a national heritage and culture embedded in their constitution.

But Israel has embedded a religion, thereby excluding a portion of its population. Segregation, apartheid.

It excludes no one. They all have freedom of religion.

Are you going to somehow find a a non Jewish group in Israel which is being kept from freely practicing their religion?
Or are being segregated because they are not Jewish?

Give us some examples.

 

[Sixties Fan]

You have a lot to say about Israel who does have Arabs but when it pertains to the Arab World with their bigotry and intolerance towards the Jewish people and many of those Countries don’t have any Jewish residents there is no response. Typical
Pro Palestinian Mentality of an.

I'm quite happy to say Israel behaves like Arab nations, which I don't consider to be 'western' democracies.

Oh, Look !!!!

You know even less about Arab countries than you think you know about Israel

 

[Shusha]

Theoretically, the Palestine Basic Law also allows for freedom of religion, but it includes a clause stating that freedom of religion can be removed in the interest of "public order and public morals". Which is pretty broad and the kind of thing that Arab countries use to prevent women from showing their hair or driving.

 

[cnm]

Well, the first hump to get over is that the Jewish people are an indigenous ethnic group and not a religion.

Except anyone can convert. Even all those atheist Russian immigrants.

 

[cnm]

We, the people of Éire

Not the Catholics of Eire.

 

[cnm]

It excludes no one.

It excludes non Jews from the right to determine Israel.

 

[cnm]

Or are being segregated because they are not Jewish?

Give us some examples.

"the state sees the development of Jewish settlement as a national value and will act to encourage and promote its establishment and consolidation."

 

[cnm]

Look, no one's denying your right to love apartheid, it's just you have to accept you're going to be called on it.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Well, the first hump to get over is that the Jewish people are an indigenous ethnic group and not a religion.

Except anyone can convert. Even all those atheist Russian immigrants.

Most Jews are indigenous of the Land of Israel. Get over it.