Zone1 "Nothing creates itself"

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I'm sure I've gone over that in excruciating detail but if you have a specific question, have a time it.

Only if you believe arguing what you don't believe makes what you do believe right. In other words, your arguing the God of Abraham doesn't exist, doesn't prove God doesn't exist. And that's really all you are here for, right? Arguing against the God of Abraham?

 

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So you look at each side in it's most favorable light, something i don't do, and then have the gall to say you're the less biased.

Yes, 100%. You are incapable of being objective about God.

 

[alang1216]

I have no doubt you see yourself in the best possible light.

Don't we all?

And since you don't believe in either heaven or hell it's hard for me to believe you believe people of faith are gambling with their immortal souls. But your illogical arguments are entertaining.

People can believe they are gambling even when the game is fixed.

 

[alang1216]

Anyone who understands odds should stay away from Vegas unless they see their losses as entertainment, but keep your illogical arguments coming. So my judgement is just fine. With objectivity comes wisdom and wisdom leads to good and fair judgments.

Proverbs 14:6
The mocker seeks wisdom and finds none, but knowledge comes easily to the discerning.

I have no doubt you see yourself in the best possible light.

 

[alang1216]

Yes, 100%. You are incapable of being objective about God.

Again, I would say the same thing about you.

 

[alang1216]

Only if you believe arguing what you don't believe makes what you do believe right. In other words, your arguing the God of Abraham doesn't exist, doesn't prove God doesn't exist. And that's really all you are here for, right? Arguing against the God of Abraham?

Once again, God the creator may exist (agnostic) but God of Abraham does not (atheist). There is zero evidence, outside of the claims in the Bible, to link the two.

 

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Don't we all?

Not everyone, not all the time.

 

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People can believe they are gambling even when the game is fixed.

Vegas doesn't need to "fix" the games. The odds are in their favor. It's just statistics. Same thing applies to God.

 

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I have no doubt you see yourself in the best possible light.

Sometimes.

 

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Again, I would say the same thing about you.

Of course you would. But I have a perception of God and a perception of no God. You can't say the same.

 

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Once again, God the creator may exist (agnostic) but God of Abraham does not (atheist). There is zero evidence, outside of the claims in the Bible, to link the two.

Thank you for proving my point. You're an ax grinder, not a truth seeker.

 

[alang1216]

Vegas doesn't need to "fix" the games. The odds are in their favor. It's just statistics. Same thing applies to God.

Agreed, but odds of there being a God of Abraham are ver small.

 

[alang1216]

Of course you would. But I have a perception of God and a perception of no God. You can't say the same.

Au contraire. I think my perceptions are spot on.

 

[alang1216]

Thank you for proving my point. You're an ax grinder, not a truth seeker.

Except all the truth I have found supports my conclusions. I have yet to hear anything from you or anyone else to cause me to change them.

 

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Agreed, but odds of there being a God of Abraham are ver small.

And that's important to you why?

 

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Au contraire. I think my perceptions are spot on.

You perception of God is that you have none. That's not very spot on... if you are trying to be objective, which you are not.

 

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Except all the truth I have found supports my conclusions. I have yet to hear anything from you or anyone else to cause me to change them.

How do "all the truths you have found" support the creator of existence isn't logic, truth, love, etc? AKA every extant attribute of existence?

Again... this goes back to your failure to define what it was you were supposedly looking for.

 

[alang1216]

And that's important to you why?

That God has tremendous influence in the US.

 

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That God has tremendous influence in the US.

How so?

 

[alang1216]

How so?

Abortion for one. I honestly think a lot of the opposition is based on religion. Catholicism being a major one.