Not Our War

[Donald H]

Give Trump a chance. As a christian he knows that a 'day' doesn't mean a 24 hour day!

 

[JWBooth]

 

[Mac1958]

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[DonGlock26]

22% of the US electorate, as represented by the USMB membership, is insane.

 

[Lesh]

This is exactly what everyone who wasn't a Trump cultist knew back when he claimed he would end the war in one day.

It is easy to promise you're going to do something, but much harder to actually accomplish it in the real world. Now his sycophants are just waving it off, hilariously trying to spin his failure as anything but.

He said he will easily solve it in one day, that he knew exactly what to say to each of them. He lied, he failed, and his adorers just give him yet another pass.

The only way he was going to end it wzz as to piss off his buddy Putin and we all knew that wasn’t going to happen.

He thought he could starve the Ukrainians of guns and ammo but the EU stepped up and screwed him.

He’s a fool

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Trump tried, but the EU convinced Zelenskyy there was still money to be made

Have at it!

 

[Lesh]

Trump tried, but the EU convinced Zelenskyy there was still money to be made

Have at it!

Trump “tried” to screw Ukraine… and failed
He fails a lot

 

[luiza]

I guess this means trump lied about having the unique ability to end the war on day one. Who would have guessed?

No ,Troll Bot .
It means that Trumpfy has done a deal with Pooters which allows the US to have more freedom to promote Nazisrael in its attempts to push the Greater Israel project .

Give a few and take a few .

Are you a foreigner Troll Bot 86 ? You Troll like somebody with an allegiance outside of the USA .

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Trump “tried” to screw Ukraine… and failed
He fails a lot

Special circle of Hell for Zelenskyy and all the war profiteers who backed him

 

[Correll]

That seems like a desperate grasp at framing something in a way it isn't.

As far as I can tell, the war is a meatgrinder and neither side has a clear path to achieving their goals.

If you disagree, let's discuss what you base your disagreement on.

Ukraine should just give up their territories to the invader because Correll thinks it is too much of a meatgrinder war.

They are still losing ground. The russians are paying a stupid price for each inch of ground they take, but they are still taking ground.

Ending the war sooner, rather than later, is to Ukraine's benefit.


Your weird attempt to "frame" that as just a matter of my opinion, is... bizarre.

Lied. It is Trump. Anyone with half a brain knew it wasn't as simple as Trump claimed.

Looked to me like he really tried. And is still trying. Putin seems to be the only one standing against PEACE now.

Supporting a sovereign nation's right to defend itself from invaders is important.

And again, YOU are all about framing it, ignoring my point about it being a stalemate.

Okay, we know that Correll believes a country invading another to steal their land and resources should be rewarded with whatever they can grab as long as they can get to the point where Correll thinks it is too much a of a meat grinder. We should have just left Germany with almost all of Western Europe too, afterall there was a pause and peace could have been achieved by just holding onto UK.

"Should be"? That implies that I have put an approval on Putin's actions, morally speaking.

Which I have not done. So.... you're finding a need to misrepresent my position.


Why do you think that is?

 

[Correll]

The only way he was going to end it wzz as to piss off his buddy Putin and we all knew that wasn’t going to happen.

He thought he could starve the Ukrainians of guns and ammo but the EU stepped up and screwed him.

He’s a fool

In reality he brought Zelenski to heel, but Putin is being the unreasonable one.


So...what you said, just isn't true.

 

[DonGlock26]

Russian President Vladimir Putin Announces Easter Ceasefire - The Last Refuge

Russian President Vladimir Putin has announced an Easter ceasefire of all hostilities in order to celebrate the holiest of Christian holy days. According to his announcement the ceasefire will last from 6 p.m. Moscow time (1500 GMT) on Saturday, to midnight (2100 GMT) Monday, following Easter...

theconservativetreehouse.com

This will enrage the warmonger atheists on the Left.

 

[MarcATL]

Until it is.

 

[Concerned American]

My apologies if reminding you of the lies trump used to dupe voters gives you a queasy stomach. Perhaps you are one of them.

Where was your concern when Biden spent our tax $$$$ to finance this war? Trump, Trump, Trump. Maybe you should be focusing on the cause and not so much the guy who is attempting to find a solution. You do remember that Obama ALLOWED the Russians to annex Crimea in 2014 which emboldened the Russians to try to gain unfettered access to that territory, don't you? Putin just waited for someone stupid enough to allow it again. Biden was custom made for the job. Biden is a fool. Botched Afghanistan withdrawal, the Oct. 7 massacre by Hamas and Ukraine are all squarely on Biden and the democrats shoulders.

 

[my2¢]

My 'other' pick was based on my view that the statement was too limited. Now if he'd said, "Not Our Wars", and added Gaza into the mix then I would have selected 'yes'.

 

[AveMarica]

As far as I can tell, the war is a meatgrinder and neither side has a clear path to achieving their goals.

If you disagree, let's discuss what you base your disagreement on.

I don't disagree.

They are still losing ground. The russians are paying a stupid price for each inch of ground they take, but they are still taking ground.

Ending the war sooner, rather than later, is to Ukraine's benefit.

Russia is gaining ground at an extremely slow pace, and Ukraine doesn't want to give up the territory Russia has stolen because it doesn't benefit them.

Your weird attempt to "frame" that as just a matter of my opinion, is... bizarre.

Yeah it is uncomfortable when it is framed how you really see things.

Looked to me like he really tried. And is still trying. Putin seems to be the only one standing against PEACE now.

Let me guess, you're a Trump supporter?

And again, YOU are all about framing it, ignoring my point about it being a stalemate.

Yep, you think of someone invades your country you should just give up whatever they take if things become a meat grinder. Reward the invader.

"Should be"? That implies that I have put an approval on Putin's actions, morally speaking.

Which I have not done. So.... you're finding a need to misrepresent my position.

Why do you think that is?

You think Russia should just be awarded the land they stole by invading, which isn't how even Republicans thought until very recently.

 

[AveMarica]

The only way he was going to end it wzz as to piss off his buddy Putin and we all knew that wasn’t going to happen.

He thought he could starve the Ukrainians of guns and ammo but the EU stepped up and screwed him.

He’s a fool

And how we witness the hilarity of his fans just throwing up their hands and saying whelp, he tried.

idiots.

 

[AveMarica]

Deflection on you know Dems wanted to spend more.

Yes, we saw the feeble attempt at deflecting you attempted.

Nothing false about it.

You not having the critical thinking skills necessary to understand why you are presenting a false dilemma doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Never said we were. Said it could lead to direct War. Im against funding anymore Endlesss Wars

Yes, we know you're used to accepting whatever fear mongering you hear.

Ir you followed news Russia is hitting the hell out of Odessa lately.

Yep, Russia attacks and slowly gains ground. Trump adorers think we Ukraine should just quite and give up, I assume you'd have been for giving Western Europe to Germany.

That is and has always been possible with Russia.

You just want to keep rolling the dice.

Yep, that is how those susceptible to fear mongering see the world. Ohh noo we can't possibly support them fighting back! It is too much rolling the dice, they should just be able to invade whoever they want, it is too scary to send arms to those they attack. You pee your pants a lot reading the news?

 

[eagle1462010]

Yep, Russia attacks and slowly gains ground. Trump adorers think we Ukraine should just quite and give up, I assume you'd have been for giving Western Europe to Germany.

We Ukraine. LMAO. Get your programmer to fix your conversation. You went from Ohio to now living in Ukraine.

Ukraine has every right to fight to the last man. You can join them and dye with them.

Yep, that is how those susceptible to fear mongering see the world. Ohh noo we can't possibly support them fighting back! It is too much rolling the dice, they should just be able to invade whoever they want, it is too scary to send arms to those they attack. You pee your pants a lot reading the news?

Yes I just pissed myself in fear of Russia.
The bear scared me. Oh wait that is European countries who have not armed up.

Perhaps we can send them some depends.