Not Good: Federal Judge Rules Ohio's Traditional Marriage Laws Unconstitional

[Steve_McGarrett]

This is insane forcing Ohio to follow other states that have superceded it on allowing same sex marriages valid. This is what I call a travesty of epic proportions pertaining to established states rights. Traditional marriage has been in place since this nations inception and it has been a mainstay that helped form this nation and our value system. To have that nullified is outrageous. This radical judge abusing his powers is U.S. District Judge Timothy S. Black appointed by our constitutionally ineligible president Barack Obama.


Fed. Judge Rules Ohio Must Follow Other States' Marriage Laws Instead of Its Own

 

[OKTexas]

No sense rehashing this again, SCOTUS will weigh in on this soon enough.

 

[occupied]

You are mistaken on one point, it is good, all your other points are wrong as well.

 

[Katzndogz]

It's up to the people in Ohio. They don't have to accept these couples as married.

 

[bodecea]

It's up to the people in Ohio. They don't have to accept these couples as married.

Goody...we don't have to accept certain marriages either. Fun. Fun. Fun.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

It's up to the people in Ohio. They don't have to accept these couples as married.

Incorrect.

The people lack the authority – either through their elected representatives or referenda – to decide who will or will not have his civil rights.

One’s civil liberties are not subject to ‘majority rule.’

 

[ShootSpeeders]

The tenth amendment makes marriage entirely a state issue. Federal judges should stay out of this. Of course, that's true of 99% of the cases they choose to rule on.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

It's up to the people in Ohio. They don't have to accept these couples as married.

Incorrect.

The people lack the authority – either through their elected representatives or referenda – to decide who will or will not have his civil rights.

One’s civil liberties are not subject to ‘majority rule.’

So you're saying all gun laws are void too.?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

No sense rehashing this again, SCOTUS will weigh in on this soon enough.

Or the states could simply obey the Constitution and allow same-sex couples access to their marriage laws.

No need for lawsuits or the courts at all.

 

[occupied]

If the right had any sense they would give up on this one, the argument is all but over.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The tenth amendment makes marriage entirely a state issue. Federal judges should stay out of this. Of course, that's true of 99% of the cases they choose to rule on.

Also incorrect.

The 10th Amendment has nothing to do with the issue; this concerns 14th Amendment jurisprudence and the Constitution’s requirement that all citizens have equal access to the law.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

It's up to the people in Ohio. They don't have to accept these couples as married.

Incorrect.

The people lack the authority – either through their elected representatives or referenda – to decide who will or will not have his civil rights.

One’s civil liberties are not subject to ‘majority rule.’

So you're saying all gun laws are void too.?

If a state law seeks to disadvantage gay Americans only from exercising their Second Amendment rights, such laws would be just as un-Constitutional.

 

[JohnA]

The tenth amendment makes marriage entirely a state issue. Federal judges should stay out of this. Of course, that's true of 99% of the cases they choose to rule on.

Also incorrect.

The 10th Amendment has nothing to do with the issue; this concerns 14th Amendment jurisprudence and the Constitution’s requirement that all citizens have equal access to the law.[/QUOTEcorrect and all citizens including gays have access to the law they can marry somebody of age and of the opposite sex ANYTIME THEY CHOOSE
not a civil rights issue its about changing a law to suit a few
marraige is not a federal issue always has been a state issue ... let the people decide

 

[Plasmaball]

And another state falls...
Good..

 

[Katzndogz]

It's up to the people in Ohio. They don't have to accept these couples as married.

Goody...we don't have to accept certain marriages either. Fun. Fun. Fun.

The fact is you don't. It might be a good idea if gays and lesbians just stopped accepting traditional marriage all together. Go further. Stop accepting heterosexual couples and families. Tell them how offensive they are.

 

[Katzndogz]

And another state falls...
Good..

Not quite. All the judge was able to impose was that Ohio has to accept out of state marriages. Performing same sex marriages is still prohibited.

Judges can impose all they want but they cannot force the people to accept it. They can't even force the families of gays to accept them.

 

[Katzndogz]

It's up to the people in Ohio. They don't have to accept these couples as married.

Incorrect.

The people lack the authority – either through their elected representatives or referenda – to decide who will or will not have his civil rights.

One’s civil liberties are not subject to ‘majority rule.’

Poppycock. People retain the absolute right to decide what they will or will not accept. There is no civil right to another person's good will. I can give you examples if you don't know how it works.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The tenth amendment makes marriage entirely a state issue. Federal judges should stay out of this. Of course, that's true of 99% of the cases they choose to rule on.

Also incorrect.

The 10th Amendment has nothing to do with the issue; this concerns 14th Amendment jurisprudence and the Constitution’s requirement that all citizens have equal access to the law.[/QUOTEcorrect and all citizens including gays have access to the law they can marry somebody of age and of the opposite sex ANYTIME THEY CHOOSE
not a civil rights issue its about changing a law to suit a few
marraige is not a federal issue always has been a state issue ... let the people decide

Wrong.

Again, the people are not authorized to determine who will or will not have his civil rights.

And this is in fact a civil rights issue, as no one is advocating ‘changing’ marriage law; in fact, same-sex couples are eligible to access marriage law exactly as it exists now, no one is advocating anything be ‘changed.’

The 14th Amendment requires the states to allow all persons access to state laws, including same-sex couples’ access to marriage law.

 

[Silhouette]

Um... got news for you. The Supreme Court just reiterated Windsor today saying states sovereignty is not to be overruled by the federal courts. So, for what it's worth. LGBTs can enjoy the mirage while it lasts. Don't rush to get those marriage licenses because you will learn very soon I think that they aren't worth the paper they're written on.

 

[Katzndogz]

The judge recognized that Ohio may deny marriage licenses to same sex couples.

The state must recognize as valid out of state marriages. Of course individuals are free to accept or reject anything they wish.