Not even one GOP senator is Jewish , but there are several Democratic

[irosie91]

So you're thinking the Senate is an affirmative action chamber?

Do you know any Evangelicals who are Democrats.

No. And?

And why do they love Israel so much?? And back it? I am talking Israel and not Jews.

penny----you, certainly, do not know why

Oh I know why.

oh----ok----no doubt you know the mind of each person whom you call an EVANGELICAL or----EVAN. Tell
us all about the "FACT" that they are all waiting with
bated breath for the ADVENT. ----like the Shiites are
waiting for the little bastard in the well in Qom to POP up
and make the world caliphate

 

[Doc1]

So you really AREN'T a "Christian", you're out of the closet.

You do not lie every day to the world and still pretend you are a good Christian! Sarah Sanders does just that.

Sure she does, but the post was about Jake, oh yes, you're not a "Christian" either.

Yes, Sarah lies daily, and Doc1 tries to emulate her daily. That is not Christian behavior.

Poor Jake, such a liar and a pretend internet character.

^^^^ poor, poor Doc1 ^^^^ pitiful

irosie, I have no problem with the Jews or the Jewish state, which I support its right to exist.

Which Jesus do you believe in Jakeapotamus?

 

[irosie91]

Jewish Senators;

and yet the Evangelicals are the main supporters of Israel and the Jews.

Seems funny to me. Not ha ha funny, but hypocritical funny.

What about that is hypocritical? Can you only be Jewish to support Israel? Can you only be Muslim to support Palestine?

Almost all of the Jewish dem legislators support Israel, but many on the left do not...so does that make the left hypocritical?

If you take the religion completely out of this equation, what you have is a country, along with a bunch of neighboring countries, tried to wipe another country off the map (and almost succeeded. But that country fought them back and took the other country because its highly strategic to do so, and not have a country intent on your destruction in proximity to a crucial boarder of your country out of your control. Don’t forget they could have easily taken control of more land (they pushed back all the way to Cairo), but stopped and let the boot off the neck easily.

If you add religion back into the equation, what you see is a Jewish country, that took a UN deal for their own sovereignty, then has been in a state of constant defensive war pretty much since its inception...when has Israel not acted defensively? It’s also the only democratic country in the Middle East, to the point where they have people in parliament who wish for the very destruction of that country. It’s a Jewish country that has banned Jews from their most holy site in order to placate to the Muslims that want to wipe them off the map. It’s the only tolerant country in the Middle East for gays and lesbians.

To paint them as the bad guys in this situation is utterly ridiculous. Disagreeing with how they handle things is one thing. But just painting them as the bad guys, the instigators, etc, is so naive, and an incredibly simplistic (and wrong) view of a complicated situation.

What I see is for years it was mainly a Arab nation of Muslims, a few Christians and some Jews. The jews were sent there to maintain the Suez Canal, and then they kicked the British out, King David Hotel.

Only 45000 Jews returned from Babylon, most loved it in Babylon. Ever hear of the
Herodian Dynasty

Do you see Herods Temple there yet??? No.

Then why do Democrats not pander to Netanyahu

I think you have your parties mixed up!

Then why do Democrats not pander to Netanyahu

I think you have your parties mixed up!

So you can sell your line of crap to the Muslim population here and in exchange for........oil.

Netanyahu was open to negotiations with Kerry and with Mitchell before him.

And then Iran. See, it's really hard to deal with a nation-state that is aiding and abetting the terrorist organizations that keep trying to blow up your country. So, the whole you just be quiet you thingy didn't work out as a plan.

And Abbas.

Surprise, surprise, surprise.

Saudi Arabia and Israel hate Iran that is why they are terrorists , as well as Hamas and Hezbollah, A jew is the father of Shia Islam. Also Israel didn't mind giving weapons to Iran in the 1980's during the Iran Contra.

Iran funds terrorist organizations. That is why they are terrorists. .Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorist organizations. Always have been and always will be.

And oil.

You just happen to support terrorists. Period.

So we are told, what about Saudi Arabia?

What the hell does king herod have to do with anything? Hahaha what a completely laughable point. Didn’t he let many return to Jerusalem? Are you suggesting that Jews would be happier in Iran? What on earth is your point.

Let’s put everything here into context. Babylon took over Israel, and moved Israelites all around the empire, and treated them like shit for generations up until Herod. Who was nicer to them and let many return to Jerusalem, and the Jews even hailed him as a savior for them after suffering under the previous harsher dynasty’s...So you’re comparing Jews from 3,000 years ago, where generation after generation grew up in Babylon under harsh rule, finally get a decent king who treats them well and decide to stay, rather than make a dangerous trek through strange lands to a place they have never been before; to Jews who moved to Israel after their neighbors were turning them in by the millions to the nazis, who systematically slaughtered them by the millions. At this time, when they tried to escape to a different country, country after country denied them access (including FDR and the US)...so these Jews said **** it, we’re going back to the promise land because we won’t survive another one of these holocausts. After they established their country, and accepted the UN deal, their neighboring countries have unsuccessfully tried to wipe them off the map on numerous occasions.

So some Jews...not all...3,000 or so years ago stayed in Babylon. And this is comparable to the situation we see after WWII?

Persia changed their name to Iran (which translates to Aryan in honor of Hitler and what he was doing). I don’t think that’s a place where modern day Jews will get the same treatment they did under Herod.

Sak King Herod was not Iranian-----he was an edomite---
roman shill appointed king of Judea by the Romans.
Sak you are probably too young to remember ----when things were fairly good for jews in Iran-----Ie----like before
1970

 

[Doc1]

It's sad how you think that we should base our support for causes solely on our tribal DNA.

I am still wondering why anyone would care that out of the 100 senators-----none are GOP JEWS. Only two or three
people out of 100 in the USA are jews

People who care about that sort of thing are highly invested in Identity Politics.

No I wonder why the GOP is so radical and hateful, I also wonder why the only RC Potus got assassinated along with his brother who was going to run. Evangelical writing is all over it.

You need new meds. ObabbleCare is there for you.

identity politics is what the GOP and Evangelicals practice. I don't need meds nor ACA, but you might if you are so blind to see what the facts are.

Case in point, Did you just make fun of Obama by calling it ObabbleCare. I think so. I guess that makes you what?

Compared to you it makes him Einstein honey. Those boogeyman Evangelicals are coming to get you Barbara......Your hatred is a typical trait of Progressives.

 

[Doc1]

You do not lie every day to the world and still pretend you are a good Christian! Sarah Sanders does just that.

Sure she does, but the post was about Jake, oh yes, you're not a "Christian" either.

Yes, Sarah lies daily, and Doc1 tries to emulate her daily. That is not Christian behavior.

Poor Jake, such a liar and a pretend internet character.

^^^^ poor, poor Doc1 ^^^^ pitiful

irosie, I have no problem with the Jews or the Jewish state, which I support its right to exist.

Which Jesus do you believe in Jakeapotamus?

So you think ole Pilate would have killed Jesus without the Jewish agitation? What kind of bible do you use? The LDS version?

 

[LaDexter]

The first followers were Jewish, who followed the Law as well as Jesus.

So Jesus never broke any laws?

Why did he get the cross?

 

[Penelope]

I am still wondering why anyone would care that out of the 100 senators-----none are GOP JEWS. Only two or three
people out of 100 in the USA are jews

People who care about that sort of thing are highly invested in Identity Politics.

No I wonder why the GOP is so radical and hateful, I also wonder why the only RC Potus got assassinated along with his brother who was going to run. Evangelical writing is all over it.

You need new meds. ObabbleCare is there for you.

identity politics is what the GOP and Evangelicals practice. I don't need meds nor ACA, but you might if you are so blind to see what the facts are.

Case in point, Did you just make fun of Obama by calling it ObabbleCare. I think so. I guess that makes you what?

Compared to you it makes him Einstein honey. Those boogeyman Evangelicals are coming to get you Barbara......Your hatred is a typical trait of Progressives.

Evangelicals give Christianity a bad name.

 

[irosie91]

Sure she does, but the post was about Jake, oh yes, you're not a "Christian" either.

Yes, Sarah lies daily, and Doc1 tries to emulate her daily. That is not Christian behavior.

Poor Jake, such a liar and a pretend internet character.

^^^^ poor, poor Doc1 ^^^^ pitiful

irosie, I have no problem with the Jews or the Jewish state, which I support its right to exist.

Which Jesus do you believe in Jakeapotamus?

So you think ole Pilate would have killed Jesus without the Jewish agitation? What kind of bible do you use? The LDS version?

HISTORICALLY-----Pilate murdered something like 20,000 jews by crucifixion----in something like his 10 year career in
Judea. (he probably did lots of DEFORESTATION beside killing jews) The jews he liked to kill most were the
PHARISEES---(like Jesus) -----who were the people who so
hated ROMAN CONTROL in the temple-----that they wanted to get rid of the money changers ------and traitors
like CAIAPHAS-----(the roman shill who helped the romans
get rid of Jesus) --------so now you know. Try to cope-----
There were very important Roman shills at that time---
Caiphas is the most well known and hated------Herod comes
in a distant second

 

[LaDexter]

Every time Doc1 does make it personal, he admits that he is losing.

Traditional Christians understand that the Jews did not kill Christ (the Romans did), the Jews did not drink Christian blood, and the Jews did not eat the flesh of sacrificed Christian babies.

Why Doc1 hates Jews is beyond me, but that is characteristic of the religious Alt Right. The religious Christian right generally loves Jews and the Jewish state.

This is classic...

WHO made the law against "blasphemy" meaning claiming to be "son of God?"

WHY was such a law on the books at the time?

WHO did Judas rat Jesus out to?

WHO arrested Jesus?



Judaism is actually correct - Nazareth was a total fraud.

 

[irosie91]

The first followers were Jewish, who followed the Law as well as Jesus.

So Jesus never broke any laws?

Why did he get the cross?

because that is how romans killed Pharisees for the
"crime" of SEDITION. Sedition against rome was
not a CRIME for jews------it was a ----"mitzvah"

 

[Doc1]

People who care about that sort of thing are highly invested in Identity Politics.

No I wonder why the GOP is so radical and hateful, I also wonder why the only RC Potus got assassinated along with his brother who was going to run. Evangelical writing is all over it.

You need new meds. ObabbleCare is there for you.

identity politics is what the GOP and Evangelicals practice. I don't need meds nor ACA, but you might if you are so blind to see what the facts are.

Case in point, Did you just make fun of Obama by calling it ObabbleCare. I think so. I guess that makes you what?

Compared to you it makes him Einstein honey. Those boogeyman Evangelicals are coming to get you Barbara......Your hatred is a typical trait of Progressives.

Evangelicals give Christianity a bad name.

Of course they do, just ask you. The tell of a stupid person is that they use guilt by association and reject it when it's used on them.

 

[irosie91]

Every time Doc1 does make it personal, he admits that he is losing.

Traditional Christians understand that the Jews did not kill Christ (the Romans did), the Jews did not drink Christian blood, and the Jews did not eat the flesh of sacrificed Christian babies.

Why Doc1 hates Jews is beyond me, but that is characteristic of the religious Alt Right. The religious Christian right generally loves Jews and the Jewish state.

This is classic...

WHO made the law against "blasphemy" meaning claiming to be "son of God?"

WHY was such a law on the books at the time?

WHO did Judas rat Jesus out to?

WHO arrested Jesus?



Judaism is actually correct - Nazareth was a total fraud.

Probably ----if the events are in any way true----Judas ratted
Jesus to CAIAPHAS _---THE ROMAN SHILL----roman soldiers arrested Jesus----or people under roman orders---or even people under the control of the TRAITOR Caiaphas

 

[LaDexter]

https://www.quora.com/For-what-crime-s-specifically-was-Jesus-crucified

Jesus equated Himself to God. That’s why He was crucified.

According to Pharisees of that time, claiming equality with God was blasphemy, an offence punishable with death. According to the Bible, making yourself equal with God is blasphemy, yes, but you can’t kill a man for that.

Crucifixion of Jesus came by chance, although using spiritual binoculars we believe God planned it all for the sake of redeeming the world.

Trial of Jesus Christ came at around that time of the Jewish customary feast, and setting free a death row convict marked the occasion. Decision on whom to set free was a sole discretion of the people.

Hanging on a tree was considered a befitting punishment for a capital offender.

Barabbas was a death row convict and his death in the authority’s hands was looming. “Jesus’ trial came at the right time,” and the administrative authority asked them who should they (Roman rulers) set free, between Jesus and Barabbas. The religious leaders incited the crowd to choose Barabbas.

That’s how Jesus ended up on the cross. The Pharisees who refused to accept that Jesus Christ was God incarnate gave the verdict that sent Him to die on the cross.

 

[irosie91]

People who care about that sort of thing are highly invested in Identity Politics.

No I wonder why the GOP is so radical and hateful, I also wonder why the only RC Potus got assassinated along with his brother who was going to run. Evangelical writing is all over it.

You need new meds. ObabbleCare is there for you.

identity politics is what the GOP and Evangelicals practice. I don't need meds nor ACA, but you might if you are so blind to see what the facts are.

Case in point, Did you just make fun of Obama by calling it ObabbleCare. I think so. I guess that makes you what?

Compared to you it makes him Einstein honey. Those boogeyman Evangelicals are coming to get you Barbara......Your hatred is a typical trait of Progressives.

Evangelicals give Christianity a bad name.

you give mankind a bad name

 

[boedicca]

No I wonder why the GOP is so radical and hateful, I also wonder why the only RC Potus got assassinated along with his brother who was going to run. Evangelical writing is all over it.

You need new meds. ObabbleCare is there for you.

identity politics is what the GOP and Evangelicals practice. I don't need meds nor ACA, but you might if you are so blind to see what the facts are.

Case in point, Did you just make fun of Obama by calling it ObabbleCare. I think so. I guess that makes you what?

Compared to you it makes him Einstein honey. Those boogeyman Evangelicals are coming to get you Barbara......Your hatred is a typical trait of Progressives.

Evangelicals give Christianity a bad name.

you give mankind a bad name

Oh snap...you beat me to it.

 

[LaDexter]

Does anyone disagree with this statement:

Jesus refused to heal sick people at his trial.



If you agree, was that "Christian" of Jesus to do that if he really had the power to heal?

 

[sakinago]

Jewish Senators;

and yet the Evangelicals are the main supporters of Israel and the Jews.

Seems funny to me. Not ha ha funny, but hypocritical funny.

What about that is hypocritical? Can you only be Jewish to support Israel? Can you only be Muslim to support Palestine?

Almost all of the Jewish dem legislators support Israel, but many on the left do not...so does that make the left hypocritical?

If you take the religion completely out of this equation, what you have is a country, along with a bunch of neighboring countries, tried to wipe another country off the map (and almost succeeded. But that country fought them back and took the other country because its highly strategic to do so, and not have a country intent on your destruction in proximity to a crucial boarder of your country out of your control. Don’t forget they could have easily taken control of more land (they pushed back all the way to Cairo), but stopped and let the boot off the neck easily.

If you add religion back into the equation, what you see is a Jewish country, that took a UN deal for their own sovereignty, then has been in a state of constant defensive war pretty much since its inception...when has Israel not acted defensively? It’s also the only democratic country in the Middle East, to the point where they have people in parliament who wish for the very destruction of that country. It’s a Jewish country that has banned Jews from their most holy site in order to placate to the Muslims that want to wipe them off the map. It’s the only tolerant country in the Middle East for gays and lesbians.

To paint them as the bad guys in this situation is utterly ridiculous. Disagreeing with how they handle things is one thing. But just painting them as the bad guys, the instigators, etc, is so naive, and an incredibly simplistic (and wrong) view of a complicated situation.

What I see is for years it was mainly a Arab nation of Muslims, a few Christians and some Jews. The jews were sent there to maintain the Suez Canal, and then they kicked the British out, King David Hotel.

Only 45000 Jews returned from Babylon, most loved it in Babylon. Ever hear of the
Herodian Dynasty

Do you see Herods Temple there yet??? No.

So you can sell your line of crap to the Muslim population here and in exchange for........oil.

Netanyahu was open to negotiations with Kerry and with Mitchell before him.

And then Iran. See, it's really hard to deal with a nation-state that is aiding and abetting the terrorist organizations that keep trying to blow up your country. So, the whole you just be quiet you thingy didn't work out as a plan.

And Abbas.

Surprise, surprise, surprise.

Saudi Arabia and Israel hate Iran that is why they are terrorists , as well as Hamas and Hezbollah, A jew is the father of Shia Islam. Also Israel didn't mind giving weapons to Iran in the 1980's during the Iran Contra.

Iran funds terrorist organizations. That is why they are terrorists. .Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorist organizations. Always have been and always will be.

And oil.

You just happen to support terrorists. Period.

So we are told, what about Saudi Arabia?

What the hell does king herod have to do with anything? Hahaha what a completely laughable point. Didn’t he let many return to Jerusalem? Are you suggesting that Jews would be happier in Iran? What on earth is your point.

Let’s put everything here into context. Babylon took over Israel, and moved Israelites all around the empire, and treated them like shit for generations up until Herod. Who was nicer to them and let many return to Jerusalem, and the Jews even hailed him as a savior for them after suffering under the previous harsher dynasty’s...So you’re comparing Jews from 3,000 years ago, where generation after generation grew up in Babylon under harsh rule, finally get a decent king who treats them well and decide to stay, rather than make a dangerous trek through strange lands to a place they have never been before; to Jews who moved to Israel after their neighbors were turning them in by the millions to the nazis, who systematically slaughtered them by the millions. At this time, when they tried to escape to a different country, country after country denied them access (including FDR and the US)...so these Jews said **** it, we’re going back to the promise land because we won’t survive another one of these holocausts. After they established their country, and accepted the UN deal, their neighboring countries have unsuccessfully tried to wipe them off the map on numerous occasions.

So some Jews...not all...3,000 or so years ago stayed in Babylon. And this is comparable to the situation we see after WWII?

Persia changed their name to Iran (which translates to Aryan in honor of Hitler and what he was doing). I don’t think that’s a place where modern day Jews will get the same treatment they did under Herod.

Babylon destroyed the Solomons Temple in about 590 BC, and only 45000 Jews (to include the singers) returned to Judea to rebuild the temple with Persian money.

You can't jump from there to Herod and then to Hitler from there, a lot happened.

Why didn't more come back from Babylon, when King Cyrus allowed them to a few decades later, they liked it there.

Oh they became very happy in Iran, Queen Esther. You must be an evangelical.

No I’m not an evangelical, I am a listener of Dan Carlin’s hardcore history. Again this was 3,000 years ago...NO SHIT A LOT HAS HAPPENED SINCE THEN. A big one was Persia changing their name to Iran. Modern day Jews are not welcome in Iran. WTF IS YOUR POINT?? You say a lot has happened since WWII and that I can’t just jump around, but then YOU say “Jews liked it in Persia way back when.” BUT I THOUGHT A LOT HAS CHANGED FROM THEN, but apparently only when someone else brings up the precipitating events that led to the formation of Israel....

You are uttering laughable nonsense. WHAT THE **** IS YOUR POINT?? That the peasant Jews could’ve returned when the nice kings in the pre-Roman empire would let them....yea a lot has changed since then. Things like modern day transportation is a pretty big one. It was a lot harder to travel hundreds of miles back then than it is now, just in case you didn’t know. Let’s not forget, PLENTY DID return...so again wtf is your point?

 

[irosie91]

https://www.quora.com/For-what-crime-s-specifically-was-Jesus-crucified

Jesus equated Himself to God. That’s why He was crucified.

According to Pharisees of that time, claiming equality with God was blasphemy, an offence punishable with death. According to the Bible, making yourself equal with God is blasphemy, yes, but you can’t kill a man for that.

Crucifixion of Jesus came by chance, although using spiritual binoculars we believe God planned it all for the sake of redeeming the world.

Trial of Jesus Christ came at around that time of the Jewish customary feast, and setting free a death row convict marked the occasion. Decision on whom to set free was a sole discretion of the people.

Hanging on a tree was considered a befitting punishment for a capital offender.

Barabbas was a death row convict and his death in the authority’s hands was looming. “Jesus’ trial came at the right time,” and the administrative authority asked them who should they (Roman rulers) set free, between Jesus and Barabbas. The religious leaders incited the crowd to choose Barabbas.

That’s how Jesus ended up on the cross. The Pharisees who refused to accept that Jesus Christ was God incarnate gave the verdict that sent Him to die on the cross.

DEX ----you are badly misinformed------the FACT is that
it is the PHARISEES who rejected capital punishment----
BRACE YOURSELF------Israel does not have capital punishment today BECAUSE OF THE DICTUMS AND
WRITINGS OF THE PHARISEES --------Pharisee does not
mean "banker" or "crazy nut neurotic" as your sunday
school teacher taught you------it actually refers to the most
influential scholars and talmudists of that time. It also does not mean RICH. The "tax collectors" were not Pharisees nor were the money changers----those people
were roman shills------like YOU. Jesus was CLEARLY a
Pharisee------he said Pharisee things-----socialized with Pharisees and quoted the Talmud incessantly. Romans hated Pharisees because they rejected COMPLETELY ----
roman culture------like feeding people to lions for fun and
CRUCIFYING PEOPLE. Even if Jesus were guilty of "blasphemy" according to Pharisee logic-----they did not
EXECUTE such people-----mostly they called them NUTS---
rarely they banned them which was not much of a problem---
there were cities set aside for the "banned" people ----
In fact TWO such cities----as far as I recall. HISTORY IS
REAL-----not a sunday school fairy tale

 

[sakinago]

Jewish Senators;

and yet the Evangelicals are the main supporters of Israel and the Jews.

Seems funny to me. Not ha ha funny, but hypocritical funny.

What about that is hypocritical? Can you only be Jewish to support Israel? Can you only be Muslim to support Palestine?

Almost all of the Jewish dem legislators support Israel, but many on the left do not...so does that make the left hypocritical?

If you take the religion completely out of this equation, what you have is a country, along with a bunch of neighboring countries, tried to wipe another country off the map (and almost succeeded. But that country fought them back and took the other country because its highly strategic to do so, and not have a country intent on your destruction in proximity to a crucial boarder of your country out of your control. Don’t forget they could have easily taken control of more land (they pushed back all the way to Cairo), but stopped and let the boot off the neck easily.

If you add religion back into the equation, what you see is a Jewish country, that took a UN deal for their own sovereignty, then has been in a state of constant defensive war pretty much since its inception...when has Israel not acted defensively? It’s also the only democratic country in the Middle East, to the point where they have people in parliament who wish for the very destruction of that country. It’s a Jewish country that has banned Jews from their most holy site in order to placate to the Muslims that want to wipe them off the map. It’s the only tolerant country in the Middle East for gays and lesbians.

To paint them as the bad guys in this situation is utterly ridiculous. Disagreeing with how they handle things is one thing. But just painting them as the bad guys, the instigators, etc, is so naive, and an incredibly simplistic (and wrong) view of a complicated situation.

What I see is for years it was mainly a Arab nation of Muslims, a few Christians and some Jews. The jews were sent there to maintain the Suez Canal, and then they kicked the British out, King David Hotel.

Only 45000 Jews returned from Babylon, most loved it in Babylon. Ever hear of the
Herodian Dynasty

Do you see Herods Temple there yet??? No.

So you can sell your line of crap to the Muslim population here and in exchange for........oil.

Netanyahu was open to negotiations with Kerry and with Mitchell before him.

And then Iran. See, it's really hard to deal with a nation-state that is aiding and abetting the terrorist organizations that keep trying to blow up your country. So, the whole you just be quiet you thingy didn't work out as a plan.

And Abbas.

Surprise, surprise, surprise.

Saudi Arabia and Israel hate Iran that is why they are terrorists , as well as Hamas and Hezbollah, A jew is the father of Shia Islam. Also Israel didn't mind giving weapons to Iran in the 1980's during the Iran Contra.

Iran funds terrorist organizations. That is why they are terrorists. .Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorist organizations. Always have been and always will be.

And oil.

You just happen to support terrorists. Period.

So we are told, what about Saudi Arabia?

What the hell does king herod have to do with anything? Hahaha what a completely laughable point. Didn’t he let many return to Jerusalem? Are you suggesting that Jews would be happier in Iran? What on earth is your point.

Let’s put everything here into context. Babylon took over Israel, and moved Israelites all around the empire, and treated them like shit for generations up until Herod. Who was nicer to them and let many return to Jerusalem, and the Jews even hailed him as a savior for them after suffering under the previous harsher dynasty’s...So you’re comparing Jews from 3,000 years ago, where generation after generation grew up in Babylon under harsh rule, finally get a decent king who treats them well and decide to stay, rather than make a dangerous trek through strange lands to a place they have never been before; to Jews who moved to Israel after their neighbors were turning them in by the millions to the nazis, who systematically slaughtered them by the millions. At this time, when they tried to escape to a different country, country after country denied them access (including FDR and the US)...so these Jews said **** it, we’re going back to the promise land because we won’t survive another one of these holocausts. After they established their country, and accepted the UN deal, their neighboring countries have unsuccessfully tried to wipe them off the map on numerous occasions.

So some Jews...not all...3,000 or so years ago stayed in Babylon. And this is comparable to the situation we see after WWII?

Persia changed their name to Iran (which translates to Aryan in honor of Hitler and what he was doing). I don’t think that’s a place where modern day Jews will get the same treatment they did under Herod.

Sak King Herod was not Iranian-----he was an edomite---
roman shill appointed king of Judea by the Romans.
Sak you are probably too young to remember ----when things were fairly good for jews in Iran-----Ie----like before
1970

You’re correct, confused Herod with Darius. Going off of memory here, cut me slack.


Though it still doesn’t go against my point of WTF is Penelope talking about when it comes to Jews 3000 years ago.

 

[irosie91]

Jewish Senators;

and yet the Evangelicals are the main supporters of Israel and the Jews.

Seems funny to me. Not ha ha funny, but hypocritical funny.

What about that is hypocritical? Can you only be Jewish to support Israel? Can you only be Muslim to support Palestine?

Almost all of the Jewish dem legislators support Israel, but many on the left do not...so does that make the left hypocritical?

If you take the religion completely out of this equation, what you have is a country, along with a bunch of neighboring countries, tried to wipe another country off the map (and almost succeeded. But that country fought them back and took the other country because its highly strategic to do so, and not have a country intent on your destruction in proximity to a crucial boarder of your country out of your control. Don’t forget they could have easily taken control of more land (they pushed back all the way to Cairo), but stopped and let the boot off the neck easily.

If you add religion back into the equation, what you see is a Jewish country, that took a UN deal for their own sovereignty, then has been in a state of constant defensive war pretty much since its inception...when has Israel not acted defensively? It’s also the only democratic country in the Middle East, to the point where they have people in parliament who wish for the very destruction of that country. It’s a Jewish country that has banned Jews from their most holy site in order to placate to the Muslims that want to wipe them off the map. It’s the only tolerant country in the Middle East for gays and lesbians.

To paint them as the bad guys in this situation is utterly ridiculous. Disagreeing with how they handle things is one thing. But just painting them as the bad guys, the instigators, etc, is so naive, and an incredibly simplistic (and wrong) view of a complicated situation.

What I see is for years it was mainly a Arab nation of Muslims, a few Christians and some Jews. The jews were sent there to maintain the Suez Canal, and then they kicked the British out, King David Hotel.

Only 45000 Jews returned from Babylon, most loved it in Babylon. Ever hear of the
Herodian Dynasty

Do you see Herods Temple there yet??? No.

Saudi Arabia and Israel hate Iran that is why they are terrorists , as well as Hamas and Hezbollah, A jew is the father of Shia Islam. Also Israel didn't mind giving weapons to Iran in the 1980's during the Iran Contra.

Iran funds terrorist organizations. That is why they are terrorists. .Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorist organizations. Always have been and always will be.

And oil.

You just happen to support terrorists. Period.

So we are told, what about Saudi Arabia?

What the hell does king herod have to do with anything? Hahaha what a completely laughable point. Didn’t he let many return to Jerusalem? Are you suggesting that Jews would be happier in Iran? What on earth is your point.

Let’s put everything here into context. Babylon took over Israel, and moved Israelites all around the empire, and treated them like shit for generations up until Herod. Who was nicer to them and let many return to Jerusalem, and the Jews even hailed him as a savior for them after suffering under the previous harsher dynasty’s...So you’re comparing Jews from 3,000 years ago, where generation after generation grew up in Babylon under harsh rule, finally get a decent king who treats them well and decide to stay, rather than make a dangerous trek through strange lands to a place they have never been before; to Jews who moved to Israel after their neighbors were turning them in by the millions to the nazis, who systematically slaughtered them by the millions. At this time, when they tried to escape to a different country, country after country denied them access (including FDR and the US)...so these Jews said **** it, we’re going back to the promise land because we won’t survive another one of these holocausts. After they established their country, and accepted the UN deal, their neighboring countries have unsuccessfully tried to wipe them off the map on numerous occasions.

So some Jews...not all...3,000 or so years ago stayed in Babylon. And this is comparable to the situation we see after WWII?

Persia changed their name to Iran (which translates to Aryan in honor of Hitler and what he was doing). I don’t think that’s a place where modern day Jews will get the same treatment they did under Herod.

Babylon destroyed the Solomons Temple in about 590 BC, and only 45000 Jews (to include the singers) returned to Judea to rebuild the temple with Persian money.

You can't jump from there to Herod and then to Hitler from there, a lot happened.

Why didn't more come back from Babylon, when King Cyrus allowed them to a few decades later, they liked it there.

Oh they became very happy in Iran, Queen Esther. You must be an evangelical.

No I’m not an evangelical, I am a listener of Dan Carlin’s hardcore history. Again this was 3,000 years ago...NO SHIT A LOT HAS HAPPENED SINCE THEN. A big one was Persia changing their name to Iran. Modern day Jews are not welcome in Iran. WTF IS YOUR POINT?? You say a lot has happened since WWII and that I can’t just jump around, but then YOU say “Jews liked it in Persia way back when.” BUT I THOUGHT A LOT HAS CHANGED FROM THEN, but apparently only when someone else brings up the precipitating events that led to the formation of Israel....

You are uttering laughable nonsense. WHAT THE **** IS YOUR POINT?? That the peasant Jews could’ve returned when the nice kings in the pre-Roman empire would let them....yea a lot has changed since then. Things like modern day transportation is a pretty big one. It was a lot harder to travel hundreds of miles back then than it is now, just in case you didn’t know. Let’s not forget, PLENTY DID return...so again wtf is your point?

sak----only 2000 years ago------2000 years ago---MOST ADULT JEWISH MALES WERE LITERATE------there is a
real history------and it is mostly not the NT