Not a great time to be messing around with the NIH.

[Marener]

Temperature checks daily, if someone feels sick, they go home.

Being infectious before symptoms has never been truly proven or dismissed.

Most people got it because the masking and distancing crap was bullshit.

Doesn’t work. People are infectious before their temps go up and before they feel unwell.

And yes, being infectious before symptoms is absolutely proven. Being infectious if you never have symptoms has (last time I looked) not been proven but that’s obviously extremely difficult to study.

 

[martybegan]

Doesn’t work. People are infectious before their temps go up and before they feel unwell.

And yes, being infectious before symptoms is absolutely proven. Being infectious if you never have symptoms has (last time I looked) not been proven but that’s obviously extremely difficult to study.

Maybe.

Meanwhile kids were found to be far less infectious than thought, and even that has to be taken with a grain of salt because of all the lying done over this shit.

Depends on the disease, and in many cases people being asymptomatic carriers like typhoid Mary.

The point is once it was seen the mortality was less than 1% overall, the draconian methods proposed in those first few weeks should have gone by the wayside.

 

[Marener]

Maybe.

Meanwhile kids were found to be far less infectious than thought, and even that has to be taken with a grain of salt because of all the lying done over this shit.

Depends on the disease, and in many cases people being asymptomatic carriers like typhoid Mary.

The point is once it was seen the mortality was less than 1% overall, the draconian methods proposed in those first few weeks should have gone by the wayside.

Nah, kids are plenty infectious.

You’re welcome to the opinion, but your way would have resulted in a fucking disaster.

 

[martybegan]

Nah, kids are plenty infectious.

You’re welcome to the opinion, but your way would have resulted in a fucking disaster.

You way did result in a fucking disaster. Downtowns destroyed, businesses destroyed, massive fraud with the whole COVID relief shit, shots forced on people via outright lies.

And people still died. You idiots think we could have prevented it all from happening by just smashing civil rights and locking down the entire country for a year.

Idiots.

 

[Marener]

You way did result in a fucking disaster. Downtowns destroyed, businesses destroyed, massive fraud with the whole COVID relief shit, shots forced on people via outright lies.

And people still died. You idiots think we could have prevented it all from happening by just smashing civil rights and locking down the entire country for a year.

Idiots.

The fraud was the dumb fucking ideas the republicans came up with to shovel cash into business owners bank accounts.

Yeah. People still died because the right wing has become home to anti intellectual weirdoes and political hacks who tried to downplay the pandemic to minimize political consequences.

 

[martybegan]

The fraud was the dumb fucking ideas the republicans came up with to shovel cash into business owners bank accounts.

Yeah. People still died because the right wing has become home to anti intellectual weirdoes and political hacks who tried to downplay the pandemic to minimize political consequences.

Yes, because paying people is bad. The issue was mostly in blue States that just let the money out without any checks.

Says the side that up-played it to get Trump.

Meanwhile all the lies are being shown to have come from the left.

Masks weren't as effective as advertised, the 6ft rule was made up bullshit, the shot didn't prevent getting it, or prevent spread, and so many others.

 

[berg80]

Ironically, the new IG act protecting IG's from arbitrarily being fired was enacted as a response to trump firing IG's in his first term.

The National Defense Authorization Act, which President Biden signed into law today, contains important reforms to protect inspectors general from opportunistic removal and replacement by the president. This appears to be the first statutory reform to address a problem with executive branch accountability that became salient during Donald Trump’s presidency.
Inspector General Reform in the NDAA

 

[Marener]

Yes, because paying people is bad. The issue was mostly in blue States that just let the money out without any checks.

Says the side that up-played it to get Trump.

Meanwhile all the lies are being shown to have come from the left.

Masks weren't as effective as advertised, the 6ft rule was made up bullshit, the shot didn't prevent getting it, or prevent spread, and so many others.

Paying businesses a bunch of money they didn't necessarily need was a stupid idea.

And the PPP program wasn't administered by states, but by the SBA and the money was dished out without any real checks.

The lies about COVID coming from the right are too numerous to count and seriously hurt people. We saw how badly it hurt people in 2021 when COVID burned through red states and killed hundreds of thousands of people who shouldn't have died.

They said that COVID is just a bad cold.
They said it's a hoax.
They said people aren't actually dying of COVID.
They said doctors put people on ventilators for extra money
They said remdesivir is poison

Hell, they said COVID was genetically engineered to avoid harming JEWISH people. And by they, I mean the fucking lunatic you want to be head of HHS.

 

[martybegan]

Paying businesses a bunch of money they didn't necessarily need was a stupid idea.

And the PPP program wasn't administered by states, but by the SBA and the money was dished out without any real checks.

The lies about COVID coming from the right are too numerous to count and seriously hurt people. We saw how badly it hurt people in 2021 when COVID burned through red states and killed hundreds of thousands of people who shouldn't have died.

They said that COVID is just a bad cold.
They said it's a hoax.
They said people aren't actually dying of COVID.
They said doctors put people on ventilators for extra money
They said remdesivir is poison

Hell, they said COVID was genetically engineered to avoid harming JEWISH people. And by they, I mean the fucking lunatic you want to be head of HHS.

They paid them to keep them paying their employees. The issue wasn't with the actual companies, it was with the fake ones made up to graft off the system.

Actually the line was it's like the flu, and the flu is pretty bad. we don't shut down society due to the flu though.

The rest is just what some of nuts on the right SAID, the problem is the nuts on the left were the ones in fucking charge.

People were going to die from COVID, novel viruses tend to do that, at least until they attenuate. The fixation on lockdowns was counter productive once the mortality rate was determined.

That, and the left ignoring all the lockdowns for the Floyd riots, with the backing of the Blue State/City politicians.

 

[Marener]

They paid them to keep them paying their employees. The issue wasn't with the actual companies, it was with the fake ones made up to graft off the system.

Actually the line was it's like the flu, and the flu is pretty bad. we don't shut down society due to the flu though.

The rest is just what some of nuts on the right SAID, the problem is the nuts on the left were the ones in fucking charge.

People were going to die from COVID, novel viruses tend to do that, at least until they attenuate. The fixation on lockdowns was counter productive once the mortality rate was determined.

That, and the left ignoring all the lockdowns for the Floyd riots, with the backing of the Blue State/City politicians.

And the money they business owners would have used to pay their employees went right in their pockets. Yay! Free government money.

Way worse than flu. Worse mortality. Higher rate of transmission. So much worse. That should be obvious by the cratering or flu cases during the pandemic. It was easy to end flu transmission. It was impossible to end COVID transmission.

 

[Rogue AI]

When is the time? Wait, let me guess, it will be a time an anti-American Democrat is in office. More clownshow whining, how sad.

 

[martybegan]

And the money they business owners would have used to pay their employees went right in their pockets. Yay! Free government money.

Way worse than flu. Worse mortality. Higher rate of transmission. So much worse. That should be obvious by the cratering or flu cases during the pandemic. It was easy to end flu transmission. It was impossible to end COVID transmission.

Not the business owners I know, they had to prove payrolls and such. It was a lot of paperwork. The problem is criminals are very good at paperwork as well, at least the ones who balked the system.

Nope, it's a bad flu now. Maybe the first 3-4 months it was worse, but by now it's a regular flu. People have been exposed, it's not novel anymore.

Flu cases weren't singled out for analysis, and people didn't test for flu they way they tested for COVID.

 

[Marener]

Not the business owners I know, they had to prove payrolls and such. It was a lot of paperwork. The problem is criminals are very good at paperwork as well, at least the ones who balked the system.

Nope, it's a bad flu now. Maybe the first 3-4 months it was worse, but by now it's a regular flu. People have been exposed, it's not novel anymore.

Flu cases weren't singled out for analysis, and people didn't test for flu they way they tested for COVID.

Oh they had payrolls, yep. That’s not in question.

The issue is when they pay their employees with the government cheese, the get to keep way more of their revenue. Profit margins went through the roof because their payroll and rent expenses were covered by daddy government.

It’s a bad flu now. It wasn’t in 2021.

And they sure as hell did test for flu. They tested for flu even when they had Covid because people were worried about superinfection.

 

[martybegan]

Oh they had payrolls, yep. That’s not in question.

The issue is when they pay their employees with the government cheese, the get to keep way more of their revenue. Profit margins went through the roof because their payroll and rent expenses were covered by daddy government.

It’s a bad flu now. It wasn’t in 2021.

And they sure as hell did test for flu. They tested for flu even when they had Covid because people were worried about superinfection.

They paid their employees and themselves, and couldn't do work, thus no materials needed, nor anything else like subs or services.

Most businesses try to operate at a small loss, if you actually ran something you would know that.

It was in most of 2021, It was worse in early 2020 and had already started to attenuate.

They didn't test anywhere near for flu as they did for COVID.

 

[Marener]

They paid their employees and themselves, and couldn't do work, thus no materials needed, nor anything else like subs or services.

Most businesses try to operate at a small loss, if you actually ran something you would know that.

It was in most of 2021, It was worse in early 2020 and had already started to attenuate.

They didn't test anywhere near for flu as they did for COVID.

Ah, but the PPP loans went out whether you could or couldn’t do work. So businesses that still had plenty of revenue rolling in still got their payroll and rent covered for 6 months. They got free employees to do work and earn them plenty of cash.

As for when it was worst, that’s definitely in mid to late 2021. Delta strain had the worst combination of increased transmissibility and mortality and it absolutely tore up red states that had abandoned any mitigation and especially when they had low immunization rates.

 

[Billiejeens]

The NIH wasn't worth a shit during the pandemic. They kept on coming out with information that wasn't true.

To avoid war crime charges

 

[Billiejeens]

So we're back to bio warfare?

If so,
Maybe we will harness it and use it against America's enemies (AKA Democrats)

 

[martybegan]

Ah, but the PPP loans went out whether you could or couldn’t do work. So businesses that still had plenty of revenue rolling in still got their payroll and rent covered for 6 months. They got free employees to do work and earn them plenty of cash.

As for when it was worst, that’s definitely in mid to late 2021. Delta strain had the worst combination of increased transmissibility and mortality and it absolutely tore up red states that had abandoned any mitigation and especially when they had low immunization rates.

So we should have just shut down the economy and let them all go out of business?

Ooooh DELTA STRAIN.

What letter are we up to now?

 

[Billiejeens]

Bird flu has been around for decades. WTF are you in a panic now for?

Trump

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

US reports first outbreak of H5N9 bird flu in poultry​

PARIS, Jan 27 (Reuters) - The United States has reported its first outbreak of H5N9 bird flu in poultry on a duck farm in California, the World Organisation for Animal Health (WOAH) said on Monday.
U.S. authorities also detected the more common H5N1 strain on the same farm in Merced County, California, they said in a report to Paris-based WOAH, adding that the almost 119,000 birds on the farm had been killed by Dec. 2.
Highly pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI), commonly called bird flu, has spread around the globe in recent years, leading to the culling of hundreds of millions of poultry. It also spread to dozens of mammal species, including dairy cows in the U.S. and killed a person in Louisiana.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/us-reported-first-outbreak-h5n9-bird-flu-poultry-woah-says-2025-01-27/#:~:text=PARIS%2C%20Jan%2027%20(Reuters),(WOAH)%20said%20on%20Monday.

NIH Activities Grind to Halt Under Trump Comms Freeze​

NIH Activities Grind to Halt Under Trump Comms Freeze

The Trump administration locks down the U.S. NIH, interrupting medical research and drug development. Scientists sound the alarms.

www.beingpatient.com

Hopefully, we don't see a repeat of trump's botched response to COVID we saw during trump 1.0. Not to equate the bird flu with a global pandemic. It's just not the time to be playing politics with...........well...........everything........including the NIH.

Most of it based on the delusional bullshit about the fictitious deep state.

You should probably triple mask this time.