Northern Irish rape victim, 12, forced to travel to England under police escort for abortion

[Vastator]

No... A pregnant woman will naturally gestate, and deliver a baby. No person or external force is making this happen. Biology is.
Denying a woman the chance to murder her unborn child isn't forcing an action. Its denying one.

Biology ISN'T making the man rape the girl and/or woman or IS it? If answer yes then what are you saying that ALL men because of biology are basically wired to be rapists?

You are not comprehending the psychological trauma involved in that situation ie. getting raped and then being told that no abortion available, I would say that the majority of girls and women if raped in that situation if offered abortion would say yes and this I think the majority of Pro-Life women would also get an abortion.

No... I do get it. That's what makes rape such a heinous act. People are often faced with trying circumstances that test their strength, and character. How a person deals with their life's tests is up to them...

I do not consider rape as being one of life's tests.

Anything in life that presents one with a choice, is a test. Whether one considers it so or not.

I don't think getting raped is a choice and also why want a rape baby born it will inherit the fucked up DNA of it's rapists father, probably will not be normal and when an adult probably become a criminal and who knows perhaps a rapist itself. No better to abort and flush that defective DNA down the toilet. We should be wanting NORMAL healthy babys with good DNA.

Getting raped isn’t a choice. Becoming a murderer of innocents is...

 

[Vastator]

No... A pregnant woman will naturally gestate, and deliver a baby. No person or external force is making this happen. Biology is.
Denying a woman the chance to murder her unborn child isn't forcing an action. Its denying one.

Biology ISN'T making the man rape the girl and/or woman or IS it? If answer yes then what are you saying that ALL men because of biology are basically wired to be rapists?

You are not comprehending the psychological trauma involved in that situation ie. getting raped and then being told that no abortion available, I would say that the majority of girls and women if raped in that situation if offered abortion would say yes and this I think the majority of Pro-Life women would also get an abortion.

No... I do get it. That's what makes rape such a heinous act. People are often faced with trying circumstances that test their strength, and character. How a person deals with their life's tests is up to them...

I do not consider rape as being one of life's tests.

Anything in life that presents one with a choice, is a test. Whether one considers it so or not.

We should be wanting NORMAL healthy babys with good DNA.

As in, the DNA of those who would murder innocents?

 

[Vastator]

Lucy knows the best DNA is Jewish DNA. Tell em Lucy.

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Excellent book!

 

[Lysistrata]

I didn't realize that the people of Northern Ireland are still under the yoke of slavery. It is appalling that this poor girl was assaulted, and then the NI government wanted her to submit to more slavery and shed more of her blood.

The NI government needs to apologize to her and start mending its medieval ways.

The medieval age ended in 1500. Abortion was legalized in the UK in the late 1960s.

You are only off by FOUR HUNDRED AND SIXTY YEARS.

SilIy me! I thought that Northern Ireland was still part of the UK. News travels slowly in my neighborhood.

Four hundred and sixty years. You are hysterical.

You are the one who made the comment about abortion being legalized in the UK in the 1960s. As far as I know, NI is still a part of the UK, so what's going on? You are very confusing.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Murdering another child, doesn’t unrape the girl. It merely creates an additional victim...

Many girls and women who have been raped and forced to carry and give birth to a rapists baby then have suicidal tendency. It is CRUEL to suggest that a girl or a woman must for NINE MONTHS live 25/7 in the mind that inside her stomach growing is the result of her being raped, the compassionate thing to do for the girl or woman is to allow to abort.
.

That’s what makes rape such a heinous act. Murdering an innocent isn’t the answer...

But DESTROYING a girl and/or womans life is the answer? FORCING a girl and/or woman to carry and give birth to a rapists baby is the ultimate cruelty, FORCING them to live in their mind 24/7 for NINE MONTHS that to them the monster in their stomach is their because they were raped and they will think of that baby as a monster because it's biological father is a monster. This is a very complex issue involving many levels of psychological issues, the health including the mental health of the girl and/or woman comes first and aborting a rape baby is not murder in my opinion, aborting a rape baby is the first part of assisting the girl and/or woman to recovery.

Also WHO would want to be born and grow up to find they were a rape baby? Would YOU want to know YOU were the product of rape? No, guaranteed to fuck ANYONE up.

Then you agree, those two children of rape should have been aborted when they were found at ages 11 and 15. Then their mother could have healed.

Huh? They do not abort 11 and 15 years in age.

Why not? Was Jaycee Dugard not forced to have not one but two children of violent rape? Was she not forced to be further traumatized by having to raise and care for these children? Now those children have to live with the knowledge that they are the products of violent rape. Aborting these children is the first step in their mother's recovery. The father was a monster. The children are likewise monsters. If these would be the reasons for aborting them as babies, nothing has changed. Do it now.

 

[Correll]

I didn't realize that the people of Northern Ireland are still under the yoke of slavery. It is appalling that this poor girl was assaulted, and then the NI government wanted her to submit to more slavery and shed more of her blood.

The NI government needs to apologize to her and start mending its medieval ways.

The medieval age ended in 1500. Abortion was legalized in the UK in the late 1960s.

You are only off by FOUR HUNDRED AND SIXTY YEARS.

SilIy me! I thought that Northern Ireland was still part of the UK. News travels slowly in my neighborhood.

Four hundred and sixty years. You are hysterical.

You are the one who made the comment about abortion being legalized in the UK in the 1960s. As far as I know, NI is still a part of the UK, so what's going on? You are very confusing.

I can see that you are confused. You seem to partially understand the concepts of parts.

I cant' imagine someone dumb enough to need help with "parts" so you are on your own.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Biology ISN'T making the man rape the girl and/or woman or IS it? If answer yes then what are you saying that ALL men because of biology are basically wired to be rapists?

You are not comprehending the psychological trauma involved in that situation ie. getting raped and then being told that no abortion available, I would say that the majority of girls and women if raped in that situation if offered abortion would say yes and this I think the majority of Pro-Life women would also get an abortion.

No... I do get it. That's what makes rape such a heinous act. People are often faced with trying circumstances that test their strength, and character. How a person deals with their life's tests is up to them...

I do not consider rape as being one of life's tests.

Anything in life that presents one with a choice, is a test. Whether one considers it so or not.

I don't think getting raped is a choice and also why want a rape baby born it will inherit the fucked up DNA of it's rapists father, probably will not be normal and when an adult probably become a criminal and who knows perhaps a rapist itself. No better to abort and flush that defective DNA down the toilet. We should be wanting NORMAL healthy babys with good DNA.

Getting raped isn’t a choice. Becoming a murderer of innocents is...

We have to get detached from emotion in these circumstances, this is very different from Abortion on Demand, this is very different from abortion in killing for convenience because allowing a baby to be born would fuck up the womans lifestyle, that is in my opinion murder, butchering of the most innocent.

The situation of rape and removing a rapists baby to prevent total psychological collapse of the woman should not be in same level as the above.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Many girls and women who have been raped and forced to carry and give birth to a rapists baby then have suicidal tendency. It is CRUEL to suggest that a girl or a woman must for NINE MONTHS live 25/7 in the mind that inside her stomach growing is the result of her being raped, the compassionate thing to do for the girl or woman is to allow to abort.
.

That’s what makes rape such a heinous act. Murdering an innocent isn’t the answer...

But DESTROYING a girl and/or womans life is the answer? FORCING a girl and/or woman to carry and give birth to a rapists baby is the ultimate cruelty, FORCING them to live in their mind 24/7 for NINE MONTHS that to them the monster in their stomach is their because they were raped and they will think of that baby as a monster because it's biological father is a monster. This is a very complex issue involving many levels of psychological issues, the health including the mental health of the girl and/or woman comes first and aborting a rape baby is not murder in my opinion, aborting a rape baby is the first part of assisting the girl and/or woman to recovery.

Also WHO would want to be born and grow up to find they were a rape baby? Would YOU want to know YOU were the product of rape? No, guaranteed to fuck ANYONE up.

Then you agree, those two children of rape should have been aborted when they were found at ages 11 and 15. Then their mother could have healed.

Huh? They do not abort 11 and 15 years in age.

Why not? Was Jaycee Dugard not forced to have not one but two children of violent rape? Was she not forced to be further traumatized by having to raise and care for these children? Now those children have to live with the knowledge that they are the products of violent rape. Aborting these children is the first step in their mother's recovery. The father was a monster. The children are likewise monsters. If these would be the reasons for aborting them as babies, nothing has changed. Do it now.

Who force Jaycee Dugard to have those children? Judges force her or who?

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Biology ISN'T making the man rape the girl and/or woman or IS it? If answer yes then what are you saying that ALL men because of biology are basically wired to be rapists?

You are not comprehending the psychological trauma involved in that situation ie. getting raped and then being told that no abortion available, I would say that the majority of girls and women if raped in that situation if offered abortion would say yes and this I think the majority of Pro-Life women would also get an abortion.

No... I do get it. That's what makes rape such a heinous act. People are often faced with trying circumstances that test their strength, and character. How a person deals with their life's tests is up to them...

I do not consider rape as being one of life's tests.

Anything in life that presents one with a choice, is a test. Whether one considers it so or not.

We should be wanting NORMAL healthy babys with good DNA.

As in, the DNA of those who would murder innocents?

I maintain my position, against Abortion on Demand the exception for abortion in cases of rape, incest and where the life of the mother is in danger.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Murdering another child, doesn’t unrape the girl. It merely creates an additional victim...

...aborting a rape baby is not murder in my opinion.

A baby, is a baby... No baby is responsible for the circumstances of its conception. Nor is it guilty of another’s crimes. Most certainly not deserving of execution. And that is exactly what abortion is. Who is the greater villain; the rapist, or the murderer of innocent children?

"aborting a rape baby is not murder in my opinion"....

A baby, is a baby... No baby is responsible for the circumstances of its conception. Nor is it guilty of another’s crimes. Most certainly not deserving of execution. And that is exactly what abortion is. Who is the greater villain; the rapist, or the murderer of innocent children?[

Why do you want a girl and/or women who already traumatised from being raped why do you want her more traumatised by forcing her to 24/7 carry for nine months and then give birth to her rapists baby?

 

[Likkmee]

There is no evidence that there is any Muslim involvement in this case. All of you are just trolling. Its the level that you are most comfortable with.

I'd bet it was a Catholic

 

[Vastator]

No... I do get it. That's what makes rape such a heinous act. People are often faced with trying circumstances that test their strength, and character. How a person deals with their life's tests is up to them...

I do not consider rape as being one of life's tests.

Anything in life that presents one with a choice, is a test. Whether one considers it so or not.

I don't think getting raped is a choice and also why want a rape baby born it will inherit the fucked up DNA of it's rapists father, probably will not be normal and when an adult probably become a criminal and who knows perhaps a rapist itself. No better to abort and flush that defective DNA down the toilet. We should be wanting NORMAL healthy babys with good DNA.

Getting raped isn’t a choice. Becoming a murderer of innocents is...

We have to get detached from emotion in these circumstances, this is very different from Abortion on Demand, this is very different from abortion in killing for convenience because allowing a baby to be born would fuck up the womans lifestyle, that is in my opinion murder, butchering of the most innocent.

The situation of rape and removing a rapists baby to prevent total psychological collapse of the woman should not be in same level as the above.

Is the child conceived of rape less innocent than any other?

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

I do not consider rape as being one of life's tests.

Anything in life that presents one with a choice, is a test. Whether one considers it so or not.

I don't think getting raped is a choice and also why want a rape baby born it will inherit the fucked up DNA of it's rapists father, probably will not be normal and when an adult probably become a criminal and who knows perhaps a rapist itself. No better to abort and flush that defective DNA down the toilet. We should be wanting NORMAL healthy babys with good DNA.

Getting raped isn’t a choice. Becoming a murderer of innocents is...

We have to get detached from emotion in these circumstances, this is very different from Abortion on Demand, this is very different from abortion in killing for convenience because allowing a baby to be born would fuck up the womans lifestyle, that is in my opinion murder, butchering of the most innocent.

The situation of rape and removing a rapists baby to prevent total psychological collapse of the woman should not be in same level as the above.

Is the child conceived of rape less innocent than any other?

Forget about the rape baby, WHAT about the girl and/or woman or don't you give a shit about her?

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Murdering another child, doesn’t unrape the girl. It merely creates an additional victim...

...aborting a rape baby is not murder in my opinion.

A baby, is a baby... No baby is responsible for the circumstances of its conception. Nor is it guilty of another’s crimes. Most certainly not deserving of execution. And that is exactly what abortion is. Who is the greater villain; the rapist, or the murderer of innocent children?

"aborting a rape baby is not murder in my opinion"....

A baby, is a baby... No baby is responsible for the circumstances of its conception. Nor is it guilty of another’s crimes. Most certainly not deserving of execution. And that is exactly what abortion is. Who is the greater villain; the rapist, or the murderer of innocent children?[

What about the girl and/or woman what about her mental health in ALL of this?

 

[Vastator]

Murdering another child, doesn’t unrape the girl. It merely creates an additional victim...

...aborting a rape baby is not murder in my opinion.

A baby, is a baby... No baby is responsible for the circumstances of its conception. Nor is it guilty of another’s crimes. Most certainly not deserving of execution. And that is exactly what abortion is. Who is the greater villain; the rapist, or the murderer of innocent children?

"aborting a rape baby is not murder in my opinion"....

A baby, is a baby... No baby is responsible for the circumstances of its conception. Nor is it guilty of another’s crimes. Most certainly not deserving of execution. And that is exactly what abortion is. Who is the greater villain; the rapist, or the murderer of innocent children?[

Why do you want a girl and/or women who already traumatised from being raped why do you want her more traumatised by forcing her to 24/7 carry for nine months and then give birth to her rapists baby?

It isn’t a want of mine. It is a result of conception. Voluntary, or otherwise. The child is still being executed, for a crime they did not commit. Like I said; this is one of the aspects that make rape so heinous. Killing a child doesn’t make it any less so. Many people get raped. Many people have abortions. Not everyone who has an abortion, has been raped. Not every woman who gets raped goes through with an abortion. No matter the circumstances beyond our control; we are still responsible for the decisions we do make.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

That’s what makes rape such a heinous act. Murdering an innocent isn’t the answer...

But DESTROYING a girl and/or womans life is the answer? FORCING a girl and/or woman to carry and give birth to a rapists baby is the ultimate cruelty, FORCING them to live in their mind 24/7 for NINE MONTHS that to them the monster in their stomach is their because they were raped and they will think of that baby as a monster because it's biological father is a monster. This is a very complex issue involving many levels of psychological issues, the health including the mental health of the girl and/or woman comes first and aborting a rape baby is not murder in my opinion, aborting a rape baby is the first part of assisting the girl and/or woman to recovery.

Also WHO would want to be born and grow up to find they were a rape baby? Would YOU want to know YOU were the product of rape? No, guaranteed to fuck ANYONE up.

Then you agree, those two children of rape should have been aborted when they were found at ages 11 and 15. Then their mother could have healed.

Huh? They do not abort 11 and 15 years in age.

Why not? Was Jaycee Dugard not forced to have not one but two children of violent rape? Was she not forced to be further traumatized by having to raise and care for these children? Now those children have to live with the knowledge that they are the products of violent rape. Aborting these children is the first step in their mother's recovery. The father was a monster. The children are likewise monsters. If these would be the reasons for aborting them as babies, nothing has changed. Do it now.

Who force Jaycee Dugard to have those children? Judges force her or who?

She was a captive. Her rapist forced her to have these children. Is the trauma different depending on who was doing the forcing.

At the very least, the children should have been taken away so the poor woman could heal.

 

[Vastator]

Murdering another child, doesn’t unrape the girl. It merely creates an additional victim...

...aborting a rape baby is not murder in my opinion.

A baby, is a baby... No baby is responsible for the circumstances of its conception. Nor is it guilty of another’s crimes. Most certainly not deserving of execution. And that is exactly what abortion is. Who is the greater villain; the rapist, or the murderer of innocent children?

"aborting a rape baby is not murder in my opinion"....

A baby, is a baby... No baby is responsible for the circumstances of its conception. Nor is it guilty of another’s crimes. Most certainly not deserving of execution. And that is exactly what abortion is. Who is the greater villain; the rapist, or the murderer of innocent children?[

What about the girl and/or woman what about her mental health in ALL of this?

That’s up to the woman’s strength of character, toughness, beliefs, and priorities. If they can live with themselves, knowing they’ve killed an innocent, and a part of themselves... That’s on them.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Murdering another child, doesn’t unrape the girl. It merely creates an additional victim...

...aborting a rape baby is not murder in my opinion.

A baby, is a baby... No baby is responsible for the circumstances of its conception. Nor is it guilty of another’s crimes. Most certainly not deserving of execution. And that is exactly what abortion is. Who is the greater villain; the rapist, or the murderer of innocent children?

"aborting a rape baby is not murder in my opinion"....

A baby, is a baby... No baby is responsible for the circumstances of its conception. Nor is it guilty of another’s crimes. Most certainly not deserving of execution. And that is exactly what abortion is. Who is the greater villain; the rapist, or the murderer of innocent children?[

Why do you want a girl and/or women who already traumatised from being raped why do you want her more traumatised by forcing her to 24/7 carry for nine months and then give birth to her rapists baby?

Why would you object to aborting the children of violent rape when the woman has been traumatized for years?

 

[Vastator]

Anything in life that presents one with a choice, is a test. Whether one considers it so or not.

I don't think getting raped is a choice and also why want a rape baby born it will inherit the fucked up DNA of it's rapists father, probably will not be normal and when an adult probably become a criminal and who knows perhaps a rapist itself. No better to abort and flush that defective DNA down the toilet. We should be wanting NORMAL healthy babys with good DNA.

Getting raped isn’t a choice. Becoming a murderer of innocents is...

We have to get detached from emotion in these circumstances, this is very different from Abortion on Demand, this is very different from abortion in killing for convenience because allowing a baby to be born would fuck up the womans lifestyle, that is in my opinion murder, butchering of the most innocent.

The situation of rape and removing a rapists baby to prevent total psychological collapse of the woman should not be in same level as the above.

Is the child conceived of rape less innocent than any other?

Forget about the baby, WHAT about the girl and/or woman or don't you give a shit about her?

That’s exactly what the pro abortionists say. Exactly...

 

[Vastator]

Murdering another child, doesn’t unrape the girl. It merely creates an additional victim...

...aborting a rape baby is not murder in my opinion.

A baby, is a baby... No baby is responsible for the circumstances of its conception. Nor is it guilty of another’s crimes. Most certainly not deserving of execution. And that is exactly what abortion is. Who is the greater villain; the rapist, or the murderer of innocent children?

"aborting a rape baby is not murder in my opinion"....

A baby, is a baby... No baby is responsible for the circumstances of its conception. Nor is it guilty of another’s crimes. Most certainly not deserving of execution. And that is exactly what abortion is. Who is the greater villain; the rapist, or the murderer of innocent children?[

What about the girl and/or woman what about her mental health in ALL of this?

Hopefully she’s a strong woman, with the support of a loving family; and/or close group of friends, who can offer comfort and support through the hard times. That’s something all people can benefit from in trying times...