Northern Irish rape victim, 12, forced to travel to England under police escort for abortion

[EvilCat Breath]

We don't help rape victims either. Jaycee Dugard was kidnapped at age 11. She was raped for years. Her rapist forced her to have two of his children.

When she was found did our culture relieve her of the nightmare of these two children? No. Were they given the post birth abortion at ages 11 and 15 that they should have gotten prebirth? No. Jaycee Dugard was sentenced to a lifetime of reliving the years of torture and confinement. What did this to an innocent child was not a foreign theocracy but our own secular government. In fact, Jaycee Dugard has never gotten relief. Those girls are with her to this very day as constant reminders of her victimization. We have no room to point fingers at Northern Ireland.

 

[Vastator]

We don't help rape victims either. Jaycee Dugard was kidnapped at age 11. She was raped for years. Her rapist forced her to have two of his children.

When she was found did our culture relieve her of the nightmare of these two children? No. Were they given the post birth abortion at ages 11 and 15 that they should have gotten prebirth? No. Jaycee Dugard was sentenced to a lifetime of reliving the years of torture and confinement. What did this to an innocent child was not a foreign theocracy but our own secular government. In fact, Jaycee Dugard has never gotten relief. Those girls are with her to this very day as constant reminders of her victimization. We have no room to point fingers at Northern Ireland.

Murdering a third party doesn’t help any rape victim. Never has. Never will...

 

[Olde Europe]

Hello Mods!

Can we please, please, get rid of the droppings of Muslim-hating filth on this thread?

Much obliged!

It seems to be the pattern on this board. Its very rare that anything gets done although Will Haftawaite deleted a load of crap a few days ago. Probably from the same clique.

Yep, the expression "rape victim, 12" seemingly has them crawl out from beneath their rocks. Perhaps you should consider to open more of your threads in the "Clean Debate Zone" so as to prevent the worst of the abuses.

It just occurred to me ... since Her Majesty's Government apparently cannot guarantee a decent abortion regulation in all of the UK, what on earth are May's assurances worth, namely, that workers' and environmental protections are going to be guaranteed even after Brexit? When they have police forces present at a medical procedure of a 12 year-old, taking "samples"? I don't even want to think about that...

 

[Correll]

12-year-old Northern Irish rape victim forced to travel to England under police escort for abortion

A 12-year-old rape victim in Northern Ireland has been forced to travel to England under police escort for an abortion, MPs have been told.

Dawn Purvis, former director of the Marie Stopes pregnancy advice service in Belfast, said an officer seized samples from the procedure as evidence.

The child, who was not identified, could not be treated in Northern Ireland due to strict laws prohibiting the procedure in most circumstances.

Northern Ireland has a ban on abortions in almost all cases – even rape or incest.
The 1967 Abortion Act, which established legal abortion, has never applied in Northern Ireland.

And the monsters who enforce this are propping up the worst government in our history.

Probably impregnated by a Pakistani. We now all about it.

Probably her father or uncle you piece of shit.

Is that why you don't support it?

 

[Correll]

Northern Ireland has a ban on abortions in almost all cases – even rape or incest.

The 1967 Abortion Act, which established legal abortion, has never applied in Northern Ireland.

I didn't know that.

How about selling the place to whoever would have it, at a fair price of, say, £1? And get rid of the worst government in UK history in one fell swoop? Oh, and eliminate a major obstacle to a satisfactory Brexit deal on top of that? Win-win-win?

Its the only place in the Uk that still bans Gay marriage. They are mad keen on being british but reject the trappings of a civilised modern society.
Maybe the faux christians in the states could buy it and see if they could out hate the proddys ?.

So, the UK in 2010 was a barbaric nation, because it did not have gay marriage?


Do you lefties EVER think about the shit you say?

 

[Correll]

I didn't realize that the people of Northern Ireland are still under the yoke of slavery. It is appalling that this poor girl was assaulted, and then the NI government wanted her to submit to more slavery and shed more of her blood.

The NI government needs to apologize to her and start mending its medieval ways.

The medieval age ended in 1500. Abortion was legalized in the UK in the late 1960s.

You are only off by FOUR HUNDRED AND SIXTY YEARS.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Hello Mods!

Can we please, please, get rid of the droppings of Muslim-hating filth on this thread?

Much obliged!

It seems to be the pattern on this board. Its very rare that anything gets done although Will Haftawaite deleted a load of crap a few days ago. Probably from the same clique.

Yep, the expression "rape victim, 12" seemingly has them crawl out from beneath their rocks. Perhaps you should consider to open more of your threads in the "Clean Debate Zone" so as to prevent the worst of the excuses.

It just occurred to me ... since Her Majesty's Government apparently cannot guarantee a decent abortion regulation in all of the UK, what on earth are May's assurances worth, namely, that workers' and environmental protections are going to be guaranteed even after Brexit? When they have police forces present at a medical procedure of a 12 year-old, taking "samples"? I don't even want to think about that...

Its a devolved issue so usually she would not have a say. The problem is that the Belfast assembly has been dissolved for some timebecause of DUP corruption. And the province is now being ruled directly from London. So she could introduce legislation if she wanted to. Th problem for her is that she depends on the kneecappers to keep her ship afloat and has bribed them to the tune of £1bn.
Nothing will happen unless a backbencher introduces a bill and that is a big ask to get it through. In the meantime 12 year old rape victims will make the crossing under police escort- which is possibly what Jesus would have wanted.

 

[Lysistrata]

I didn't realize that the people of Northern Ireland are still under the yoke of slavery. It is appalling that this poor girl was assaulted, and then the NI government wanted her to submit to more slavery and shed more of her blood.

The NI government needs to apologize to her and start mending its medieval ways.

The medieval age ended in 1500. Abortion was legalized in the UK in the late 1960s.

You are only off by FOUR HUNDRED AND SIXTY YEARS.

SilIy me! I thought that Northern Ireland was still part of the UK. News travels slowly in my neighborhood.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Hello Mods!

Can we please, please, get rid of the droppings of Muslim-hating filth on this thread?

Much obliged!

 

[Bob Blaylock]

You want a 12 year old girl to have her rapists child ? What kind of monster are you ?

Not the kind of monster that wants to see an innocent child brutally murdered in cold blood, for a crime in which he had no willing part. That would be you.

Also not the kind of subhuman piece of shit who openly defends gangs of Islamist child rapists, who are responsible for creating this sort of situation in the first place. Again, that would be you.

You are in no position to cast aspersions at anyone else's morals or ethics.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

This case is happening today. Hopefully it will see women in the province begin to be treated properly.
Good luck Sarah.


Landmark case could overturn Northern Ireland abortion ban

A landmark case at Belfast high court could find Northern Ireland’s abortion law in breach of the European Convention on Human Rights.

The legal action is being launched by Sarah Ewart, who embarked on a long, fraught journey in 2013 when a 19-week scan showed that the baby she was carrying had a fatal defect, revealing that the brain and skull had not developed properly.

Doctors refused to perform an abortion, citing Northern Ireland’s near-blanket ban on terminations. One consultant banged files on her desk and said: “I’m not going to prison for anyone.”

Ewart, then aged 23, borrowed money from a bank to travel to England for an abortion, a costly trip to a city she did not know.
On her return she lobbied Northern Ireland’s politicians to lift the ban, citing European human rights legislation. When that fell on deaf ears Ewart took her story to the media, fuelling a push for reform and a backlash from anti-abortion activists who targeted her and her family.

On Wednesday, Ewart’s five-year odyssey through the policies and passions of Northern Ireland’s abortion ban will reach what may be its final leg.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

12-year-old Northern Irish rape victim forced to travel to England under police escort for abortion

A 12-year-old rape victim in Northern Ireland has been forced to travel to England under police escort for an abortion, MPs have been told.

Dawn Purvis, former director of the Marie Stopes pregnancy advice service in Belfast, said an officer seized samples from the procedure as evidence.

The child, who was not identified, could not be treated in Northern Ireland due to strict laws prohibiting the procedure in most circumstances.

Northern Ireland has a ban on abortions in almost all cases – even rape or incest.
The 1967 Abortion Act, which established legal abortion, has never applied in Northern Ireland.

And the monsters who enforce this are propping up the worst government in our history.

You want Abortion on Demand this that women can murder their baby because to allow it born is the inconvenience to their lifestyle. Do you care about rape victims in this situation OR is this the means to end this that to USE rape victims as excuse to have Abortion on Demand?

Myself I am very consistent in the abortion situation, this that abortion should be illegal EXCEPT in the case of rape, incest and where the life of the mother in danger, so this 12 year in age girl who is raped should be allowed to have an abortion, this does NOT mean open the doors to then allow women who are drunk or who do decide NOT to use contraception and then are pregnant to be allowed to have their baby murdered In Utero in Killing For Convenience because to allow the baby to live would be inconvenient to their lifestyle. If you do NOT want to get pregnant then use contraception it is THAT easy.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

You want a 12 year old girl to have her rapists child ? What kind of monster are you ?

Not the kind of monster that wants to see an innocent child brutally murdered in cold blood, for a crime in which he had no willing part. That would be you.

Also not the kind of subhuman piece of shit who openly defends gangs of Islamist child rapists, who are responsible for creating this sort of situation in the first place. Again, that would be you.

You are in no position to cast aspersions at anyone else's morals or ethics.

Bob girls and women who have been raped have suffered trauma already, then to FORCE them to suffer the psychological trauma of carrying a RAPE baby this is NOT compassionate it is cruel and fanatical. Abortion should be illegal EXCEPT in the case of rape, incest and where the life of the mother is in danger.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Murdering another child, doesn’t unrape the girl. It merely creates an additional victim...

Many girls and women who have been raped and forced to carry and give birth to a rapists baby then have suicidal tendency. It is CRUEL to suggest that a girl or a woman must for NINE MONTHS live 25/7 in the mind that inside her stomach growing is the result of her being raped, the compassionate thing to do for the girl or woman is to allow to abort.

Only TOTAL fanatics want rape victims to suffer double trauma by FORCING them to carry and give birth to a rapists baby. Also we cannot give weight to ANY Leftists opinion on this situation as 99% of Leftists want Abortion on Demand, the MORE abortion the better, the more babys ripped from the womb the better etc so Leftists do NOT give a SHIT about girls and women raped and pregnant, they USE those girls and women as an EXCUSE to attempt to get Abortion on Demand.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Hello Mods!

Can we please, please, get rid of the droppings of Muslim-hating filth on this thread?

Much obliged!

It seems to be the pattern on this board. Its very rare that anything gets done although Will Haftawaite deleted a load of crap a few days ago. Probably from the same clique.

Yep, the expression "rape victim, 12" seemingly has them crawl out from beneath their rocks. Perhaps you should consider to open more of your threads in the "Clean Debate Zone" so as to prevent the worst of the excuses.

It just occurred to me ... since Her Majesty's Government apparently cannot guarantee a decent abortion regulation in all of the UK, what on earth are May's assurances worth, namely, that workers' and environmental protections are going to be guaranteed even after Brexit? When they have police forces present at a medical procedure of a 12 year-old, taking "samples"? I don't even want to think about that...

Its a devolved issue so usually she would not have a say. The problem is that the Belfast assembly has been dissolved for some timebecause of DUP corruption. And the province is now being ruled directly from London. So she could introduce legislation if she wanted to. Th problem for her is that she depends on the kneecappers to keep her ship afloat and has bribed them to the tune of £1bn.
Nothing will happen unless a backbencher introduces a bill and that is a big ask to get it through. In the meantime 12 year old rape victims will make the crossing under police escort- which is possibly what Jesus would have wanted.

"which is possibly what Jesus would have wanted."

I love the Godless and God Haters when they attempt to tell Christians WHAT Jesus Christ would have wanted. No Jesus Christ would NOT support Abortion on Demand.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Murdering another child, doesn’t unrape the girl. It merely creates an additional victim...

Many girls and women who have been raped and forced to carry and give birth to a rapists baby then have suicidal tendency. It is CRUEL to suggest that a girl or a woman must for NINE MONTHS live 25/7 in the mind that inside her stomach growing is the result of her being raped, the compassionate thing to do for the girl or woman is to allow to abort.

Only TOTAL fanatics want rape victims to suffer double trauma by FORCING them to carry and give birth to a rapists baby. Also we cannot give weight to ANY Leftists opinion on this situation as 99% of Leftists want Abortion on Demand, the MORE abortion the better, the more babys ripped from the womb the better etc so Leftists do NOT give a SHIT about girls and women raped and pregnant, they USE those girls and women as an EXCUSE to attempt to get Abortion on Demand.

Yet we do not offer help to poor Jaycee Dugard who was forced to carry and give birth to TWO children of her rapist. Even when Jaycee escaped she was still forced to care for those two children. She has been unable to get relief for her trauma to this day. How cruel are we?

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Murdering another child, doesn’t unrape the girl. It merely creates an additional victim...

Many girls and women who have been raped and forced to carry and give birth to a rapists baby then have suicidal tendency. It is CRUEL to suggest that a girl or a woman must for NINE MONTHS live 25/7 in the mind that inside her stomach growing is the result of her being raped, the compassionate thing to do for the girl or woman is to allow to abort.

Only TOTAL fanatics want rape victims to suffer double trauma by FORCING them to carry and give birth to a rapists baby. Also we cannot give weight to ANY Leftists opinion on this situation as 99% of Leftists want Abortion on Demand, the MORE abortion the better, the more babys ripped from the womb the better etc so Leftists do NOT give a SHIT about girls and women raped and pregnant, they USE those girls and women as an EXCUSE to attempt to get Abortion on Demand.

Yet we do not offer help to poor Jaycee Dugard who was forced to carry and give birth to TWO children of her rapist. Even when Jaycee escaped she was still forced to care for those two children. She has been unable to get relief for her trauma to this day. How cruel are we?

I not hear about this Jaycee Dugard only now you mention about her. That also outrageous NO girl or woman should be FORCED to carry and give birth to a rape baby, I do not care about but but but it ISN'T the babys fault etc The number one important situation is the HEALTH of the girl and/or woman this INCLUDE her MENTAL HEALTH and the psychological trauma, the physical trauma of rape they recover from the psychological trauma can be with them for many many decades and as I comment many have suicidal tendency and some do commit suicide.

 

[Vastator]

Murdering another child, doesn’t unrape the girl. It merely creates an additional victim...

Many girls and women who have been raped and forced to carry and give birth to a rapists baby then have suicidal tendency. It is CRUEL to suggest that a girl or a woman must for NINE MONTHS live 25/7 in the mind that inside her stomach growing is the result of her being raped, the compassionate thing to do for the girl or woman is to allow to abort.
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That’s what makes rape such a heinous act. Murdering an innocent isn’t the answer...

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Murdering another child, doesn’t unrape the girl. It merely creates an additional victim...

Many girls and women who have been raped and forced to carry and give birth to a rapists baby then have suicidal tendency. It is CRUEL to suggest that a girl or a woman must for NINE MONTHS live 25/7 in the mind that inside her stomach growing is the result of her being raped, the compassionate thing to do for the girl or woman is to allow to abort.
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That’s what makes rape such a heinous act. Murdering an innocent isn’t the answer...

But DESTROYING a girl and/or womans life is the answer? FORCING a girl and/or woman to carry and give birth to a rapists baby is the ultimate cruelty, FORCING them to live in their mind 24/7 for NINE MONTHS that to them the monster in their stomach is their because they were raped and they will think of that baby as a monster because it's biological father is a monster. This is a very complex issue involving many levels of psychological issues, the health including the mental health of the girl and/or woman comes first and aborting a rape baby is not murder in my opinion, aborting a rape baby is the first part of assisting the girl and/or woman to recovery.

Also WHO would want to be born and grow up to find they were a rape baby? Would YOU want to know YOU were the product of rape? No, guaranteed to fuck ANYONE up.

 

[Vastator]

Murdering another child, doesn’t unrape the girl. It merely creates an additional victim...

Many girls and women who have been raped and forced to carry and give birth to a rapists baby then have suicidal tendency. It is CRUEL to suggest that a girl or a woman must for NINE MONTHS live 25/7 in the mind that inside her stomach growing is the result of her being raped, the compassionate thing to do for the girl or woman is to allow to abort.
.

That’s what makes rape such a heinous act. Murdering an innocent isn’t the answer...

But DESTROYING a girl and/or womans life is the answer? FORCING a girl and/or woman to carry and give birth to a rapists baby is the ultimate cruelty, FORCING them to live in their mind 24/7 for NINE MONTHS that to them the monster in their stomach is their because they were raped and they will think of that baby as a monster because it's biological father is a monster. This is a very complex issue involving many levels of psychological issues, the health including the mental health of the girl and/or woman comes first and aborting a rape baby is not murder in my opinion, aborting a rape baby is the first part of assisting the girl and/or woman to recovery.

Also WHO would want to be born and grow up to find they were a rape baby? Would YOU want to know YOU were the product of rape? No, guaranteed to fuck ANYONE up.

There is no one forcing... Other than what the rapist has done. There’s a large difference between being a victim of a rapist; and becoming a murderer. No amount of killing will unrape a woman.