Noahide Laws PL 102-14 Are they constitutional?

[rosends]

Talmudic Rabbis,

can you explain what a "non-Talmudic Rabbi" would be?

 

[PeterPilot]

can you explain what a "non-Talmudic Rabbi" would be?

Do you consider English to be your primary language? Do you have a dictionary handy?

 

[rosends]

Do you consider English to be your primary language? Do you have a dictionary handy?

Yes, it is my primary language and I have many dictionaries available. Why can't you answer my question?
You used an adjective to modify a noun. You didn't use the noun on its own. So what does your adjective come to exclude?

Just answer the question instead of deflecting.

 

[PeterPilot]

Yes, it is my primary language and I have many dictionaries available. Why can't you answer my question?
You used an adjective to modify a noun. You didn't use the noun on its own. So what does your adjective come to exclude?

Just answer the question instead of deflecting.

I make a habit of not answering stupid questions, sorry, nothing personal. If English is your primary language and you have dictionaries available, why don't you check out the meaning of the prefix "non" to learn what non-Talmudic means.

 

[rosends]

I make a habit of not answering stupid questions, sorry, nothing personal. If English is your primary language and you have dictionaries available, why don't you check out the meaning of the prefix "non" to learn what non-Talmudic means.

because as someone who is a rabbi and who is well versed in Jewish law, the phrase has no meaning. And with advanced degrees in English, I am well equipped to understand all sorts of things. You are using a phrase so you must think it has meaning even though it doesn't. Why are you refusing to tell me what you mean by the phrase?

 

[PeterPilot]

because as someone who is a rabbi and who is well versed in Jewish law, the phrase has no meaning. And with advanced degrees in English, I am well equipped to understand all sorts of things. You are using a phrase so you must think it has meaning even though it doesn't. Why are you refusing to tell me what you mean by the phrase?

As a Gentile who has recently done superficial study about a holy book I had never bothered to examine before, I understand the book to be the teachings of Rabbis over thousands of years. I have read only small portions of the actual book, and find it disgusting and evil. I have heard Ben Rhodes declare himself to be a Talmudic Jew. I have not heard Glenn Greenwald or Jeffrey Sachs make any such declaration about themselves, and I have heard Sachs strongly declare that Zionism is NOT Judaism.

Understanding Rhodes to be a radical Jew, I presume that being a Talmudic Jew means one embraces the philosophy of the Talmud. Having read only small parts, it's easy to understand how a Talmudic Jew would be a radical, disgusting and violent individual who sees other races as being inferior to himself. Having walked by many of the smelly and weird looking Jews on the streets of NYC years ago, understanding them to be Hassidic while not knowing the exact meaning of the word, those people are weird and filthy. Rhodes may not smell like they do, but he certainly is a weird dude.

Knowing that there are exceptions to every rule, I know there are a small number of Rabbis who speak out against the predations and crimes of the Zionist entity. I presume you to be in that class, but it might be a bad presumption.

 

[rosends]

As a Gentile who has recently done superficial study about a holy book I had never bothered to examine before, I understand the book to be the teachings of Rabbis over thousands of years.

that would be wrong

I have read only small portions of the actual book, and find it disgusting and evil.

then you haven't understood any of it

I have heard Ben Rhodes declare himself to be a Talmudic Jew. I have not heard Glenn Greenwald or Jeffrey Sachs make any such declaration about themselves, and I have heard Sachs strongly declare that Zionism is NOT Judaism.

all of this is irrelevant. You have yet to answer my question.

Understanding Rhodes to be a radical Jew, I presume that being a Talmudic Jew means one embraces the philosophy of the Talmud.

there is no such thing as a "non Talmudic Jew" so "Talmudic Jew" = "Jew."

Having read only small parts, it's easy to understand how a Talmudic Jew would be a radical, disgusting and violent individual who sees other races as being inferior to himself.

So you prefer to speak out of admitted ignorance. Got it.

Having walked by many of the smelly and weird looking Jews on the streets of NYC years ago, understanding them to be Hassidic while not knowing the exact meaning of the word, those people are weird and filthy.

and if they say the same about you, would that affect you?

Knowing that there are exceptions to every rule, I know there are a small number of Rabbis who speak out against the predations and crimes of the Zionist entity. I presume you to be in that class, but it might be a bad presumption.

None of this answered the question I asked. Why can't you stick to that?

"non-Talmudic Rabbi" -- what does it mean?

 

[PeterPilot]

I did answer your question Rabba, it just wasn't the answer you wanted to hear.

 

[rosends]

I did answer your question Rabba, it just wasn't the answer you wanted to hear.

no, you didn't. You tried to explain some idea of "non-talmudic Jew" which is also meaningless, but you didn't explain "non-talmudic rabbi."

All you have to do is write the following sentence (and fill in the blanks):

"A non-talmudic rabbis is defined as ________________________________________"

you used the phrase. Just tell me what you meant by it.

 

[PeterPilot]

Silly questions asked reveal a silly mindset.

 

[rosends]

So you can't define it. That makes sense because it has no meaning. The entire construct of "rabbi" develops in the Talmud and oral law. If you are one who rejects the Talmud then you cannot be a rabbi because becoming a rabbi, by definition, means following rules set in the Talmud.

So, again, what do you mean by "non Talmudic rabbi"?

 

[PeterPilot]

So you can't define it. That makes sense because it has no meaning. The entire construct of "rabbi" develops in the Talmud and oral law. If you are one who rejects the Talmud then you cannot be a rabbi because becoming a rabbi, by definition, means following rules set in the Talmud.

So, again, what do you mean by "non Talmudic rabbi"?

For a person who reads, speaks and understands English, understanding the term is as easy as understanding a term such as 'free thinker' or 'mainstream media'. No es dificil.

 

[rosends]

For a person who reads, speaks and understands English, understanding the term is as easy as understanding a term such as 'free thinker' or 'mainstream media'. No es dificil.

you keep saying that, even after I explain why the phrase has no meaning? Would you say the same to other self contradictory phrases? Oh look, a non-Koranic Muslim!

For someone who insists that the meaning is not difficult, you seem unable to present it.

 

[BackAgain]

The Noahide Laws - LewRockwell

Have you ever heard of the Noahide Laws? Probably not. Here they are: No, they are not an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory. You can find them in H.J. Res 104, a joint resolution passed by both the House and Senate and then signed by President George W. Bush, making it a public law. The article...

www.lewrockwell.com

I had heard the term before but didn't understand what they were. Paul Roberts details legislative history. I think they are unconstitutional, a blatant violation of First Amendment principles.

You still don’t understand what that Hiuse Resolution said and did.

Some internet claims say H.J. Res. 104 made Noahide laws binding U.S. law or criminalized behavior. That is false.

This resolution did not:

• create crimes
• impose religious law
• override the Constitution
• establish Jewish law in the U.S.
• authorize punishments for violating Noahide principles

It was symbolic language praising moral values, similar to many congressional commemorative resolutions.

A ChatGPT partial answer.

You could actually just read the law instead of relying on crap like Lew Rockwell’s usual nonsense.

H.J. Res. 104 (102nd Congress, 1991), which became Public Law 102-14. It was not a law imposing Noahide rules on Americans. It was a ceremonial resolution designating March 26, 1991 as “Education Day, U.S.A.” in honor of Menachem Mendel Schneerson.

Since your clearly too lazy to do any research of the original law, here is the opening statement of that Public Law:

Public Law 102-14
102nd Congress
Joint Resolution

To designate March 26, 1991, as “Education Day, U.S.A.”

https://www.congress.gov/bill/102nd-congress/house-joint-resolution/104/text

 

[shockedcanadian]

This is part of modern Judaism and not this nations Christian faith
Your "Noahide Laws are meaningless to me

Are you a better person for this position? To me that is the acid test of faith. Happy, warm people who emit light over darkness, those who are warm and genuine humanitarians is how I view ones faith is being a positive contributing to society or not. I do not care what religion one is since we all have to forge the path given to us, however, if one is focused on murdering or oppressing humans instead of wishing them to be free and content; they surely cannot be in G-ds good graces, can they?

 

[PeterPilot]

you keep saying that, even after I explain why the phrase has no meaning? Would you say the same to other self contradictory phrases? Oh look, a non-Koranic Muslim!

For someone who insists that the meaning is not difficult, you seem unable to present it.

You are by your actions a propagandist for the Zionist cause. Therefore, when you say "the phrase has no meaning" I understand you are just doing your job.

I know what the phrase means, and so do you, and so does anybody with an understanding of the English language. You have a job to do. I get it.

 

[PeterPilot]

BackAgain

The legislative history, if you know what that is, shows that the lobbying effort to get this law passed started years before. Those lobbying for it were not Boy Scouts of America, they were Zionist Interests, including AIPAC.

I don't need ChatGPT to tell me about how human nature and bribing works.

The Rabbis want to control the legal system in the US in accordance with Talmudic principles, and they take overt actions, like bribery and blackmail, to achieve it. Have you learned nothing from the Epstein files?

 

[rosends]

You are by your actions a propagandist for the Zionist cause. Therefore, when you say "the phrase has no meaning" I understand you are just doing your job.

The phrase you used gas nothing to do with Zionism so now w you are intentionally muddying the water.

I know what the phrase means, and so do you, and so does anybody with an understanding of the English language. You have a job to do. I get it.

I have explained why, in terms of religion, it has no meaning. You have yet to try and define it and defend your position. Are you too scared to try?

 

[PeterPilot]

The phrase you used gas nothing to do with Zionism so now w you are intentionally muddying the water.

I have explained why, in terms of religion, it has no meaning. You have yet to try and define it and defend your position. Are you too scared to try?

It has everything to do with Zionism, and we both know it.

 

[rosends]

The Rabbis want to control the legal system in the US in accordance with Talmudic principles

Speaking as one of the Rabbis, no, we don't. By what authority do you tell us what we want?