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More dead terrorists and Dems are pushing hard for surrender
terrorist attacks up.
civilian deaths across Iraq up.
US military deaths up.
Democrats ARE upset....as are most Americans...because the surge is NOT working.
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More dead terrorists and Dems are pushing hard for surrender
terrorist attacks up.
civilian deaths across Iraq up.
US military deaths up.
Democrats ARE upset....as are most Americans...because the surge is NOT working.
Since the terrorists know the more they attack - the harder the Dems will puch for surredner
Dems are doing exactly what the terrorists want them to do - and so are you
answer my question. HOw does all that increeased carnage equate to the "surge working"?
I am pretty sure that the surge was designed to reduce carnage and spread order and calm. It is doing exactly the opposite. How is it working?
The more they attack - the more Dems will fight for surrender
that is a stock one-liner answer. It does not explain how the surge is working?
Are you trying to suggest that Bush was expecting the surge to cause MORE death and MORE destruction? Why then, would he embark on such a counter-prodcutive stratgegy?
The fact remains: American casualties are INCREASING as this war continues. Iraqi civilian casualties are increasing. The surge is not working thus far, and it's been nearly half a year.
I've posted many times from those in Iraq regarding the surge. You and others have been quiet in those threads.
If not for political reasons, why do you pick on the weakest links?
I have no doubt that the folks serving in Iraq think that they are serving a noble cause. I have no doubt that they truly believe that they are making a difference.
I also know that folks in uniform do NOT make foreign policy, nor have they ever made foreign policy.
I also think it is a bit humorous that straightforward casualty figures would be referred to as the "weakest link".
Well I think any casualties are bad, but the number of American troops killed in Iraq are historically lower than any previous deaths in any war in American history.
I would also like to remind eveyone that historically speaking, America over 3 years freed two countries of 60 million Muslims with fewer deaths than any previous American led war except for the first Gulf war.
the point of this thread is, that if the surge is, in fact, "working", why are civilian casualties on the rise and american casualties on the rise as well? The surge was sold to the public as a short term increase in troops that would reduce the carnage. If that was it's purpose, it is not working at all.
given the spped at which your party wants to surredner, it is amazing the Dems have nopt tried to simply cut opff funding if they actually believe things are so rotten in Iraq
The US deaths are at record lows for a ground war - Defeatocrats seem to wnat to ignore that fact
quit changing the subject. The surge is not working. carnage is increasing and Bush told us the surge would cause it to decrease.
Clearly, your side does not have a fucking clue how to get us out of this hole you have gotten us into except to blindly keep digging, all the while castigating and denigrating those of us who question the wisdom of that "plan".
and your answer is to wave the white flag and hope the terrorists will stop hating us?
no. that is not my answer at all.
And you mischaracterizing MY answer does not change the fact that your side has not come up with one that has any chance of success.
The first rule when you find yourself in a hole: QUIT DIGGING!
instead of fighting back you want to suirrender
good way to tell the terrorists we do have the will to fight - then what MM?
I have never suggested surrendering. I have suggested that we focus our worldwide military/intelligence/law enforcement/diplomatic efforts at crushing islamic extremism and fostering economic and social climates where that ideology will havbe a difficult time expanding.
As I have said over and over again...the fact that the Taliban can hold a graduation ceremony for 300 suicide bombers and have it televised in the local media in Afghanistan is pathetic. That is where our true enemies have been since 9/11. Our shifted attention to Iraq has done nothing but divert our attention and our abilities away from the real enemy.
So running away from the terrorists is not surrender? Oh, that is right - libs call it a redeployment
no. allowing the Iraqis to solve their own political/sectarian squabbles is NOT surrender. that is correct.
next point?