No President has a good second term, so why do you think Trump will?

[struth]

A second term is a second term.

Let's see now, Biden "ruined" the economy by adding 15 million new jobs (after Trump lost 5 million), bringing unemployment down to 4.1% (after Trump brought it up to 14%), and brought the Stock Market to 44,000 (Trump only had it at 30,000)

We're going to look back at the Biden years as a golden age.

Xiden ruined the economy

Claiming he added jobs when people went back to work after being laid off due to Covid is comical

A record number of Americans are worse off then before xiden and harris took office

 

[JoeB131]

Xiden ruined the economy

Stop drinking the bleach.

Claiming he added jobs when people went back to work after being laid off due to Covid is comical

Those jobs didn't come back. I didn't go back to the job I lost during Covid, I got a new one. So did most people

 

[struth]

Stop drinking the bleach.



Those jobs didn't come back. I didn't go back to the job I lost during Covid, I got a new one. So did most people

Why would anyone drink bleach?? So weird

Yep the jobs came back, xiden and harris inherited an economy where jobs were pouring back, they gave trump an economy where UE is ticking back up, inflation rose 25.8 percent on groceries and a record number of Americans worse off then when he left office.

 

[JoeB131]

Why would anyone drink bleach?? So weird

Good question, why did Trump tell people to do it?

Yep the jobs came back, xiden and harris inherited an economy where jobs were pouring back, they gave trump an economy where UE is ticking back up, inflation rose 25.8 percent on groceries and a record number of Americans worse off then when he left office.

Except they weren't pouring back... unemployment was still at 7% when he slimed out the door.

 

[Stann]

So, without getting into policy or politics, the reality is that Presidents never have good second terms. There are reasons for this. While in a first term, a President will try to burnish his credibility by appointing Senators and Governors to key posts, in a second term, he's more likely to appoint loyalists who are less likely to say, "I wouldn't do that if I were you." They are more likely to have scandals.

Let's review recent history, shall we?

Obama - Lost the Senate in the midterms. Mired in the IRS fake scandal.
Dubya Bush- Iraq war went south, Katrina, and the economic crash of 2008.
Clinton- Monica Lewinsky
Reagan - Iran Contra, the 1987 Stock market crash
Nixon- Watergate
Johnson - Vietnam, Race Riots, Civil unrest

Especially since the times we live in keep getting harder to deal with. I knew whoever became president would not have an easy time of it. trump is doubly disadvantaged to deal with the crises that are occuring. Look at the people he's surrounding himself with , most all extremists. That makes it even worse.

 

[struth]

Good question, why did Trump tell people to do it?



Except they weren't pouring back... unemployment was still at 7% when he slimed out the door.

when did he say to do it? quote him.

Yes jobs were pouring back...in April it was over 14 percent, by Jan it was 6.4 percent...he cut it by more then half in just a few months.....all Harris and Xiden had to do was, well nothing, everything was in place...but they couldnt do that, and instead gave us record covid deaths, record inflation, and skyrocketing interest rates.

 

[JoeB131]

when did he say to do it? quote him.

Yes jobs were pouring back...in April it was over 14 percent, by Jan it was 6.4 percent...he cut it by more then half in just a few months.....all Harris and Xiden had to do was, well nothing, everything was in place...but they couldnt do that, and instead gave us record covid deaths, record inflation, and skyrocketing interest rates.

Actually, it was creeping back up in December, that's why Biden had to do a stimulus package.

We had record Covid Deaths because Trump failed to contain the virus, screwed up the vaccine rollout, and then openly opposed vaccines.

Now he has Vaccine Denier Bobby Brainworm at HHS. That will turn out well if we have another crisis.

 

[LeftofLeft]

So, without getting into policy or politics, the reality is that Presidents never have good second terms. There are reasons for this. While in a first term, a President will try to burnish his credibility by appointing Senators and Governors to key posts, in a second term, he's more likely to appoint loyalists who are less likely to say, "I wouldn't do that if I were you." They are more likely to have scandals.

Let's review recent history, shall we?

Obama - Lost the Senate in the midterms. Mired in the IRS fake scandal.
Dubya Bush- Iraq war went south, Katrina, and the economic crash of 2008.
Clinton- Monica Lewinsky
Reagan - Iran Contra, the 1987 Stock market crash
Nixon- Watergate
Johnson - Vietnam, Race Riots, Civil unrest

A Trump 2nd Term is not consecutive as the others have been. Plus, we avoid a 4th Obama term by proxy.

 

[struth]

Actually, it was creeping back up in December, that's why Biden had to do a stimulus package.

We had record Covid Deaths because Trump failed to contain the virus, screwed up the vaccine rollout, and then openly opposed vaccines.

Now he has Vaccine Denier Bobby Brainworm at HHS. That will turn out well if we have another crisis.

it went from 6.7 percent in Dec to 6.4 percent in Jan when Xiden took office. Why do you lie?

The Dems ramed through a massive, unneeded spending bill, that drove up inflation to record levels

We didn't have record covid deaths under Trump, we did under Harris and Xiden, because I agree, they didn't contain the virus, they undid Trump's policies, and opened the border to a surge of untested, and unvaccined illegals....

 

[JoeB131]

A Trump 2nd Term is not consecutive as the others have been. Plus, we avoid a 4th Obama term by proxy.

Why do you think that matters?

if anything, Trump is making all the mistakes that Second Term Presidents make, the first one being appointing loyalists instead of competent people.

it went from 6.7 percent in Dec to 6.4 percent in Jan when Xiden took office. Why do you lie?

Dummy, Trump wasn't president for the whole of January...

We didn't have record covid deaths under Trump, we did under Harris and Xiden, because I agree, they didn't contain the virus, they undid Trump's policies, and opened the border to a surge of untested, and unvaccined illegals....

We had record covid deaths because Trump failed to contain the virus.

Biden just got stuck with the mess. Same with Afghanistan, inflation, etc. Trump fucked everything up, Biden fixed as much as he could, and you guy complain he didn't fix it fast enough.

 

[struth]

Why do you think that matters?

if anything, Trump is making all the mistakes that Second Term Presidents make, the first one being appointing loyalists instead of competent people.



Dummy, Trump wasn't president for the whole of January...



We had record covid deaths because Trump failed to contain the virus.

Biden just got stuck with the mess. Same with Afghanistan, inflation, etc. Trump fucked everything up, Biden fixed as much as he could, and you guy complain he didn't fix it fast enough.

Didn't say he was, UE continued to go down, in Feb of 2021 it was 6.2 percent.

You claimed it went up. It didn't...

Trump didn't have record Covid deaths, the record came when Harris and Xiden were in office...Trump couldn't do done anything,.

haha Xiden made everything and everyone worse off...https://news.gallup.com/poll/652250/majority-americans-feel-worse-off-four-years-ago.aspx

hence why the American people fired the Dembot and gave Trump a mandate.

 

[Stann]

Didn't say he was, UE continued to go down, in Feb of 2021 it was 6.2 percent.

You claimed it went up. It didn't...

Trump didn't have record Covid deaths, the record came when Harris and Xiden were in office...Trump couldn't do done anything,.

haha Xiden made everything and everyone worse off...https://news.gallup.com/poll/652250/majority-americans-feel-worse-off-four-years-ago.aspx

hence why the American people fired the Dembot and gave Trump a mandate.

Propaganda gave trump the mandate from people deceived by him. They believed his lies. " It's all Biden's fault. " Which it never was.

 

[struth]

Propaganda gave trump the mandate from people deceived by him. They believed his lies. " It's all Biden's fault. " Which it never was.

Trump never said it was all Xiden's fault. He blamed Harris and the Dems in general. You know the folks in charge.

 

[Stann]

Trump never said it was all Xiden's fault. He blamed Harris and the Dems in general. You know the folks in charge.

You can't be that simple. Same thing , they are the " enemy ".

 

[JoeB131]

Didn't say he was, UE continued to go down, in Feb of 2021 it was 6.2 percent.

Biden did a great job at restoring confidence.

 

[struth]

You can't be that simple. Same thing , they are the " enemy ".

What’s the same thing? Try to speak in a complete sentence

 

[struth]

Biden did a great job at restoring confidence.

It was already dropping.

When did it spike up like you claimed, which was the reason you claimed he had to pass a stimulus…

 

[Stann]

What’s the same thing? Try to speak in a complete sentence

Been there before with you, not worth my time. Maybe you are that dense after all.

 

[struth]

Been there before with you, not worth my time. Maybe you are that dense after all.

Who’s fault was it, if not the people in charge?

 

[Stann]

Who’s fault was it, if not the people in charge?

That was already explained to you multiple times.