No, Paedophiles Are Not Homosexual

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Most pedophiles are not gay. In fact from what I understand most are married and have kids of their own. They’re orientation might be hetero but their fetish is children. And that means little girls or little boys. They may prefer little girls but they’ll mess with little boys because it’s a child. And that’s their fetish.
The problem with Republicans is when there’s a pedophile, like Roy Moore, or possibly Donald Trump, they have no problem with that because those grown men will mess with little girls. So they figured because it’s a man messing with a little girl, they’re normal.

Don’t matter. In no way is having sex with children okay. You need to stop trying to make it so. It’s disgusting.

NOBODY is saying that it is you ******* idiot!

Um, you and rdean are. And I find it disturbing.

You are disturbed alright. Ans a moron. You don't have the brain power to respond to any of my factual, documented posts withj anything but insults, delusional crap and lies

I have noticed when anyone disagrees with you regressive perverts, all you do is attack them. Why do you want children indoctrinated into the gay/*** shit for?

I have noticed that you lie a lot with your moronic allegations that all I do is attack, while ignoring the factual and logical and well documented information that I post in support of my position. Then you attack me with moronic shit about children! What the **** is wrong with you?. Much I think.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Most pedophiles are not gay. In fact from what I understand most are married and have kids of their own. They’re orientation might be hetero but their fetish is children. And that means little girls or little boys. They may prefer little girls but they’ll mess with little boys because it’s a child. And that’s their fetish.
The problem with Republicans is when there’s a pedophile, like Roy Moore, or possibly Donald Trump, they have no problem with that because those grown men will mess with little girls. So they figured because it’s a man messing with a little girl, they’re normal.

Don’t matter. In no way is having sex with children okay. You need to stop trying to make it so. It’s disgusting.

NOBODY is saying that it is you ******* idiot!

Um, you and rdean are. And I find it disturbing.

You are disturbed alright. Ans a moron. You don't have the brain power to respond to any of my factual, documented posts withj anything but insults, delusional crap and lies

Ansa? I responded but you are to much of a pusscake to admit that a movement exist that wants to normalize child molesting. You are also a bit defensive. you seem to support it.

I just don't know if you are just that much of a liar, or a complete moron. I think the latter. Psychotic is another possibility.

 

[miketx]

Don’t matter. In no way is having sex with children okay. You need to stop trying to make it so. It’s disgusting.

NOBODY is saying that it is you ******* idiot!

Um, you and rdean are. And I find it disturbing.

You are disturbed alright. Ans a moron. You don't have the brain power to respond to any of my factual, documented posts withj anything but insults, delusional crap and lies

I have noticed when anyone disagrees with you regressive perverts, all you do is attack them. Why do you want children indoctrinated into the gay/*** shit for?

I have noticed that you lie a lot with your moronic allegations that all I do is attack, while ignoring the factual and logical and well documented information that I post in support of my position. Then you attack me with moronic shit about children! What the **** is wrong with you?. Much I think.

Seek help.

 

[Crixus]

Don’t matter. In no way is having sex with children okay. You need to stop trying to make it so. It’s disgusting.

NOBODY is saying that it is you ******* idiot!

Um, you and rdean are. And I find it disturbing.

You are disturbed alright. Ans a moron. You don't have the brain power to respond to any of my factual, documented posts withj anything but insults, delusional crap and lies

I have noticed when anyone disagrees with you regressive perverts, all you do is attack them. Why do you want children indoctrinated into the gay/*** shit for?

I have noticed that you lie a lot with your moronic allegations that all I do is attack, while ignoring the factual and logical and well documented information that I post in support of my position. Then you attack me with moronic shit about children! What the **** is wrong with you?. Much I think.

Then stop lying and acting creepy. Creepy is as free does. Far as lying go’s, that’s all you Capo.

 

[Crixus]

Don’t matter. In no way is having sex with children okay. You need to stop trying to make it so. It’s disgusting.

NOBODY is saying that it is you ******* idiot!

Um, you and rdean are. And I find it disturbing.

You are disturbed alright. Ans a moron. You don't have the brain power to respond to any of my factual, documented posts withj anything but insults, delusional crap and lies

Ansa? I responded but you are to much of a pusscake to admit that a movement exist that wants to normalize child molesting. You are also a bit defensive. you seem to support it.

I just don't know if you are just that much of a liar, or a complete moron. I think the latter. Psychotic is another possibility.

Hey, I’m not trying to make child molesting normal. That’s y’all.

 

[Crixus]

NOBODY is saying that it is you ******* idiot!

Um, you and rdean are. And I find it disturbing.

You are disturbed alright. Ans a moron. You don't have the brain power to respond to any of my factual, documented posts withj anything but insults, delusional crap and lies

I have noticed when anyone disagrees with you regressive perverts, all you do is attack them. Why do you want children indoctrinated into the gay/*** shit for?

I have noticed that you lie a lot with your moronic allegations that all I do is attack, while ignoring the factual and logical and well documented information that I post in support of my position. Then you attack me with moronic shit about children! What the **** is wrong with you?. Much I think.

Seek help.

I agree.

 

[deanrd]

Most pedophiles are not gay. In fact from what I understand most are married and have kids of their own. They’re orientation might be hetero but their fetish is children. And that means little girls or little boys. They may prefer little girls but they’ll mess with little boys because it’s a child. And that’s their fetish.
The problem with Republicans is when there’s a pedophile, like Roy Moore, or possibly Donald Trump, they have no problem with that because those grown men will mess with little girls. So they figured because it’s a man messing with a little girl, they’re normal.

Don’t matter. In no way is having sex with children okay. You need to stop trying to make it so. It’s disgusting.

That’s just nasty. Just disgustingly nasty. No one is saying it’s OK to have sex with children. And for you to make the accusation proves that you are one terrible person.

 

[Hyddan92]

One of my friends works with interviewing pedophiles searching for help in Sweden, an interesting job for sure.

We have talked a few times about how they are, and as it is right now he has interviewed about 50.

There is absolutely nothing that they have in common with each other, other than that they were almost all men.
They also don't feel sexually attracted towards children the same way, some likes children exclusively, some likes only young girls, other only young boys, some likes adults and children equally, some like them both but say the way they like them differs and doesn't feel the same.

And it just goes on and on, some like women their own age and young boys, some is vice versa.

The way they like them differs as well, some is purely sexual, some feel it more like a strong love like with adults but hardly any sexual feelings.
The way they discovered that they were pedophiles differs heavely as well, only a small minority said that they hade been abused as kids. The most common was to discover their feelings during puberty but some also discovered it later, around 18-20, some only developed sexual feelings towards children after they themselves became parents.

You can't really claim anything definite about the whole group, it's impossible.

Only they should all be put away for good.

Kinda hard to do though since you don't know who they are.

It wouldalso be a bit weird to put people in jail for their life based on their sexuality.

Molesting children is now sexuality? Sicko!

No ofc not, anyone can molest children, but being sexually aroused by prepubertal children I would consider a sexuality.

 

[miketx]

One of my friends works with interviewing pedophiles searching for help in Sweden, an interesting job for sure.

We have talked a few times about how they are, and as it is right now he has interviewed about 50.

There is absolutely nothing that they have in common with each other, other than that they were almost all men.
They also don't feel sexually attracted towards children the same way, some likes children exclusively, some likes only young girls, other only young boys, some likes adults and children equally, some like them both but say the way they like them differs and doesn't feel the same.

And it just goes on and on, some like women their own age and young boys, some is vice versa.

The way they like them differs as well, some is purely sexual, some feel it more like a strong love like with adults but hardly any sexual feelings.
The way they discovered that they were pedophiles differs heavely as well, only a small minority said that they hade been abused as kids. The most common was to discover their feelings during puberty but some also discovered it later, around 18-20, some only developed sexual feelings towards children after they themselves became parents.

You can't really claim anything definite about the whole group, it's impossible.

Only they should all be put away for good.

Kinda hard to do though since you don't know who they are.

It wouldalso be a bit weird to put people in jail for their life based on their sexuality.

Molesting children is now sexuality? Sicko!

No ofc not, anyone can molest children, but being sexually aroused by prepubertal children I would consider a sexuality.

Sickness is run amok.

 

[Picaro]

Salon has run articles on how bad pedophiles feel n stuff when people discriminate against the poor hapless dears. Others just hide the fact faggots harbored pedoes and pretend they never heard of NAMBLA and its ILGA founding membership, and of course the faggots masquerading as 'mental health researchers' can be counted on to produce fake 'science' for their fellow faggots to run around peddling.

So you just post this stuff, making reference to "some articles" but think that you don't have to document it.?? Never mind I know what you're referring to, and I know why you didn't post a link. You didn't because those article don't say what you want them to say and don't support the claims that you people are making

They are talking about removing the stigma of the disease that is pedophilia and are distinguishing the disorder from the crime of child abuse. That is a far cry from stating that there is a "movement to "normalize" or decriminalize child sexual abuse. Th=.e only thing that I can't figure out about you people is if you are really this stupid, or that you are a shameless liar .

Opinion | Pedophilia: A Disorder, Not a Crime

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders defines pedophilia as an intense and recurrent sexual interest in prepubescent children, and a disorder if it causes a person “marked distress or interpersonal difficulty” or if the person acts on his interests. Yet our laws ignore pedophilia until after the commission of a sexual offense, emphasizing punishment, not prevention.

Part of this failure stems from the misconception that pedophilia is the same as child molestation. One can live with pedophilia and not act on it. Sites like Virtuous Pedophiles provide support for pedophiles who do not molest children and believe that sex with children is wrong. It is not that these individuals are “inactive” or “nonpracticing” pedophiles, but rather that pedophilia is a status and not an act. In fact, research shows, about half of all child molesters are not sexually attracted to their victims.

Many of these people are struggling with the disorder, and do not abuse children . Lifting the stigma and allowing them to come out of the shadows so that they can get the help and support that they need can protect children and prevent abuse. You "movement is that of "virtuous pedophiles" who come together to support one another in their quest to not offend.

Should We Lift the Stigma on “Virtuous Pedophiles”?

Ordinarily, when we speak of pedophiles, we tend to refer to those people who not only feel the desire to have sexual relations with minors but who act on that desire as well. The notion of “virtuous pedophiles” might therefore at first glance seem like an oxymoron—there is nothing “virtuous” about sexually preying on defenseless children, and the title might even appear to be trying to justify immoral and harmful conduct (as some pedophile-oriented web sites apparently do). But it is at least conceptually coherent to distinguish between the conduct of pedophilia—acting sexually upon children—and the mere status of pedophilia—experiencing a desire for such sexual activity. While the former can and should be subject to criminal penalties, the latter, if criminalized, would be a sort of “thought crime” that is and should be anathema to our system of justice. So the real question may be this: Do we trust that there truly are “virtuous pedophiles,” this category of those whose conduct does not reflect their status? (And perhaps a close second question would be: Do we believe that all or most of the specific self-proclaimed “virtuous pedophiles” are in reality what they claim to be?).

I'm quite sure that this will have zero effect on you and your moronic minions, because you are either incapable of learning , fearful of facts that undermine what you want to believe.

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And right on cue it goes into 'Pedoes Are Just Misunderstood!!! N Stuff!!!' mode, pulling out silly articles from his fellow Pedo-Friendlies as if we're supposed to beleive a word these sick freaks say about anything. These 'mental health experts' lost an cred they had back in the early 1970's, when they caved in to the ****** Privilege Movement's Mau-mauing the APA,; they caved only because the faggots threatened to cost their private practices money. Even at that, the faggots of course lie about the real results. Some 5,800 voted to remove ****** tetishists from the mental disorder category, some 3,800 were honest and brave enough to oppose re-classifying the fetish, but some 10,000 refused to vote at all, so barely 25% of the APA membership od some 20,000 voted to remove the sickos from the sicko list. This vote of course makes it very clear that 'science' didn't have a thing to do with re-classifying it.

Nobody with any sanity claims 'decriminalizing' child rape is some sort of societal 'obligation', so we know where you're coming from, sicko boi.

 

[Picaro]

And it gets worse. There is a movement out there with political clout behind it that wants to normalize pedophilia. They want to remove the stigma from child rapers much the same way it was removed from gay folks and to a degree, trans weirdos. Scared shit. Don’t matter what the sexual orientation is. A pedo should have their eyes burnt out and their hands cut off.

Yep, and some of them post here, too. they want to 'decriminalize' child rape, so the rapists can remain free and just attend 'self-help groups' or some stupid left wing Burb Brat idea or other. When you can sell sickos who insist on extreme self-mutilation as 'normal' and allowed to run loose even in school restrooms you have a pretty sick society at large.

Who wants to decriminalize child rape jackass!! To suggest that is as ******* stupid as stupid gets!

you do, sick ****. You run around trying to peddle the myth the demographic that rapes kids at far higher rates per capita than any other on the planet is somehow magically not homosexuals. You have never presented any valid proof otherwise, despite all your noise and advocacy, and besides only you sicko faggots would actually think they had to be 'fair' to kiddie rapers and hold a vote to ban them in the first place. Event hen some 10% of the faggots voted to keep the kiddie rapers on board with your 'movement'; seems they didn't care about the bad press and were fine with having their pedophile founders remain. Know of any other organizations that held votes on whether or not to keep kiddie rapers around? Yeah, nobody else does either.

More horseshit

Horseshit! Try to learn something if you can

Members of disliked minority groups are often stereotyped as representing a danger to the majority's most vulnerable members. For example, Jews in the Middle Ages were accused of murdering Christian babies in ritual sacrifices. Black men in the United States were often lynched after being falsely accused of raping White women. ]

In recent years, antigay activists have routinely asserted that gay people are child molesters. This argument was often made in debates about the Boy Scouts of America's policy to exclude gay scouts and scoutmasters. More recently, in the wake of Rep. Mark Foley's resignation from the US House of Representatives in 2006, antigay activists and their supporters seized on the scandal to revive this canard.

http://psc.dss.ucdavis.edu/faculty_sites/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html

Selected Excerpts:

The number of Americans who believe the myth that gay people are child molesters has declined substantially. In a 1970 national survey, more than 70% of respondents agreed with the assertions that "Homosexuals are dangerous as teachers or youth leaders because they try to get sexually involved with children" or that "Homosexuals try to play sexually with children if they cannot get an adult partner."1

By contrast, in a 1999 national poll, the belief that most gay men are likely to molest or abuse children was endorsed by only 19% of heterosexual men and 10% of heterosexual women. Even fewer – 9% of men and 6% of women – regarded most lesbians as child molesters.

Apparently you're a part of the moronic minority( Yes a play on words lifted from the moral majority)

One problem is that none of the studies in this area have obtained data from a probability sample, that is, a sample that can be assumed to be representative of the population of all child molesters. Rather, most research has been conducted only with convicted perpetrators or with pedophiles who sought professional help. Consequently, they may not accurately describe child molesters who have never been caught or have not sought treatment.


A second problem is that the terminology used in this area is often confusing and can even be misleading. We can begin to address that problem by defining some basic terms.

Pedophilia and child molestation are used in different ways, even by professionals. Pedophilia usually refers to an adult psychological disorder characterized by a preference for prepubescent children as sexual partners; this preference may or may not be acted upon. The term hebephilia is sometimes used to describe adult sexual attractions to adolescents or children who have reached puberty.



Child molestation and child sexual abuse refer to actions, and don't imply a particular psychological makeup or motive on the part of the perpetrator. Not all incidents of child sexual abuse are perpetrated by pedophiles or hebephiles; in some cases, the perpetrator has other motives for his or her actions and does not manifest an ongoing pattern of sexual attraction to children.

Thus, not all child sexual abuse is perpetrated by pedophiles (or hebephiles) and not all pedophiles and hebephiles actually commit abuse. Consequently, it is important to use terminology carefully.

Hopefully, you are beginning to see that the issue is a bit more complicated than your small mind is able or willing to contemplate

Another problem related to terminology arises because sexual abuse of male children by adult men2 is often referred to as "homosexual molestation." The adjective "homosexual" (or "heterosexual" when a man abuses a female child) refers to the victim's gender in relation to that of the perpetrator. Unfortunately, people sometimes mistakenly interpret it as referring to the perpetrator's sexual orientation.

Now we are getting to the crux of the issue. Still with me, or are you watching porn and jerking off, rather than trying to learn somthing?

As an expert panel of researchers convened by the National Academy of Sciences noted in a 1993 report: "The distinction between homosexual and heterosexual child molesters relies on the premise that male molesters of male victims are homosexual in orientation. Most molesters of boys do not report sexual interest in adult men, however" (National Research Council, 1993, p. 143, citation omitted).

To avoid this confusion, it is preferable to refer to men's sexual abuse of boys with the more accurate label of male-male molestation. Similarly, it is preferable to refer to men's abuse of girls as male-female molestation. These labels are more accurate because they describe the sex of the individuals involved but don't implicitly convey unwarranted assumptions about the perpetrator's sexual orientation.

Typologies of
Offenders The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children – boys, girls, or children of both sexes.

lol the freak posts a link to some Rainbow ****** nonsense and expects to be taken seriously. lol lol lol you are indeed an sicko freak, Chester.

 

[Crixus]

And it gets worse. There is a movement out there with political clout behind it that wants to normalize pedophilia. They want to remove the stigma from child rapers much the same way it was removed from gay folks and to a degree, trans weirdos. Scared shit. Don’t matter what the sexual orientation is. A pedo should have their eyes burnt out and their hands cut off.

Yep, and some of them post here, too. they want to 'decriminalize' child rape, so the rapists can remain free and just attend 'self-help groups' or some stupid left wing Burb Brat idea or other. When you can sell sickos who insist on extreme self-mutilation as 'normal' and allowed to run loose even in school restrooms you have a pretty sick society at large.

Who wants to decriminalize child rape jackass!! To suggest that is as ******* stupid as stupid gets!

you do, sick ****. You run around trying to peddle the myth the demographic that rapes kids at far higher rates per capita than any other on the planet is somehow magically not homosexuals. You have never presented any valid proof otherwise, despite all your noise and advocacy, and besides only you sicko faggots would actually think they had to be 'fair' to kiddie rapers and hold a vote to ban them in the first place. Event hen some 10% of the faggots voted to keep the kiddie rapers on board with your 'movement'; seems they didn't care about the bad press and were fine with having their pedophile founders remain. Know of any other organizations that held votes on whether or not to keep kiddie rapers around? Yeah, nobody else does either.

More horseshit

Horseshit! Try to learn something if you can

Members of disliked minority groups are often stereotyped as representing a danger to the majority's most vulnerable members. For example, Jews in the Middle Ages were accused of murdering Christian babies in ritual sacrifices. Black men in the United States were often lynched after being falsely accused of raping White women. ]

In recent years, antigay activists have routinely asserted that gay people are child molesters. This argument was often made in debates about the Boy Scouts of America's policy to exclude gay scouts and scoutmasters. More recently, in the wake of Rep. Mark Foley's resignation from the US House of Representatives in 2006, antigay activists and their supporters seized on the scandal to revive this canard.

http://psc.dss.ucdavis.edu/faculty_sites/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html

Selected Excerpts:

The number of Americans who believe the myth that gay people are child molesters has declined substantially. In a 1970 national survey, more than 70% of respondents agreed with the assertions that "Homosexuals are dangerous as teachers or youth leaders because they try to get sexually involved with children" or that "Homosexuals try to play sexually with children if they cannot get an adult partner."1

By contrast, in a 1999 national poll, the belief that most gay men are likely to molest or abuse children was endorsed by only 19% of heterosexual men and 10% of heterosexual women. Even fewer – 9% of men and 6% of women – regarded most lesbians as child molesters.

Apparently you're a part of the moronic minority( Yes a play on words lifted from the moral majority)

One problem is that none of the studies in this area have obtained data from a probability sample, that is, a sample that can be assumed to be representative of the population of all child molesters. Rather, most research has been conducted only with convicted perpetrators or with pedophiles who sought professional help. Consequently, they may not accurately describe child molesters who have never been caught or have not sought treatment.


A second problem is that the terminology used in this area is often confusing and can even be misleading. We can begin to address that problem by defining some basic terms.

Pedophilia and child molestation are used in different ways, even by professionals. Pedophilia usually refers to an adult psychological disorder characterized by a preference for prepubescent children as sexual partners; this preference may or may not be acted upon. The term hebephilia is sometimes used to describe adult sexual attractions to adolescents or children who have reached puberty.



Child molestation and child sexual abuse refer to actions, and don't imply a particular psychological makeup or motive on the part of the perpetrator. Not all incidents of child sexual abuse are perpetrated by pedophiles or hebephiles; in some cases, the perpetrator has other motives for his or her actions and does not manifest an ongoing pattern of sexual attraction to children.

Thus, not all child sexual abuse is perpetrated by pedophiles (or hebephiles) and not all pedophiles and hebephiles actually commit abuse. Consequently, it is important to use terminology carefully.

Hopefully, you are beginning to see that the issue is a bit more complicated than your small mind is able or willing to contemplate

Another problem related to terminology arises because sexual abuse of male children by adult men2 is often referred to as "homosexual molestation." The adjective "homosexual" (or "heterosexual" when a man abuses a female child) refers to the victim's gender in relation to that of the perpetrator. Unfortunately, people sometimes mistakenly interpret it as referring to the perpetrator's sexual orientation.

Now we are getting to the crux of the issue. Still with me, or are you watching porn and jerking off, rather than trying to learn somthing?

As an expert panel of researchers convened by the National Academy of Sciences noted in a 1993 report: "The distinction between homosexual and heterosexual child molesters relies on the premise that male molesters of male victims are homosexual in orientation. Most molesters of boys do not report sexual interest in adult men, however" (National Research Council, 1993, p. 143, citation omitted).

To avoid this confusion, it is preferable to refer to men's sexual abuse of boys with the more accurate label of male-male molestation. Similarly, it is preferable to refer to men's abuse of girls as male-female molestation. These labels are more accurate because they describe the sex of the individuals involved but don't implicitly convey unwarranted assumptions about the perpetrator's sexual orientation.

Typologies of
Offenders The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children – boys, girls, or children of both sexes.

lol the freak posts a link to some Rainbow ****** nonsense and expects to be takne seriously. lol lol lol you are indeed an sicko freak, Chester.

Yeah, he also forgot to say he’s Jewish.

 

[Picaro]

Far as that go’s, the mods will eat my ass if I open link to the place. MDK has seen it and ill pm a link to anyone who asks, and I’ll also pm a link to the folks who are fighting the normalization of child rape. Capo can use his google button.

Yes, that is the irony; no one can really tell the truth about these vermin without being banged for violations'. If the real truth could be shown without censorship, this entire 'movement' would dead within two weeks. 'Progressive' is just a code word for sociopathic Commie these days, anyway; they like to destroy cultures and societies, and replace them with nothing; they're just mad at Daddy, infantile and self-indulgent Burb Brats.

 

[Crixus]

Far as that go’s, the mods will eat my ass if I open link to the place. MDK has seen it and ill pm a link to anyone who asks, and I’ll also pm a link to the folks who are fighting the normalization of child rape. Capo can use his google button.

Yes, that is the irony; no one can really tell the truth about these vermin without being banged for violations'. If the real truth could be shown without censorship, this entire 'movement' would dead within two weeks.

With the group lobbying to have child molesting made normal, comes an army of lawyers. USMB is rightfully protecting it’s all because that group has a shit ton of money and is backed by allot of polititions both republicans and democrat. I don’t blame admin at all.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Salon has run articles on how bad pedophiles feel n stuff when people discriminate against the poor hapless dears. Others just hide the fact faggots harbored pedoes and pretend they never heard of NAMBLA and its ILGA founding membership, and of course the faggots masquerading as 'mental health researchers' can be counted on to produce fake 'science' for their fellow faggots to run around peddling.

So you just post this stuff, making reference to "some articles" but think that you don't have to document it.?? Never mind I know what you're referring to, and I know why you didn't post a link. You didn't because those article don't say what you want them to say and don't support the claims that you people are making

They are talking about removing the stigma of the disease that is pedophilia and are distinguishing the disorder from the crime of child abuse. That is a far cry from stating that there is a "movement to "normalize" or decriminalize child sexual abuse. Th=.e only thing that I can't figure out about you people is if you are really this stupid, or that you are a shameless liar .

Opinion | Pedophilia: A Disorder, Not a Crime

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders defines pedophilia as an intense and recurrent sexual interest in prepubescent children, and a disorder if it causes a person “marked distress or interpersonal difficulty” or if the person acts on his interests. Yet our laws ignore pedophilia until after the commission of a sexual offense, emphasizing punishment, not prevention.

Part of this failure stems from the misconception that pedophilia is the same as child molestation. One can live with pedophilia and not act on it. Sites like Virtuous Pedophiles provide support for pedophiles who do not molest children and believe that sex with children is wrong. It is not that these individuals are “inactive” or “nonpracticing” pedophiles, but rather that pedophilia is a status and not an act. In fact, research shows, about half of all child molesters are not sexually attracted to their victims.

Many of these people are struggling with the disorder, and do not abuse children . Lifting the stigma and allowing them to come out of the shadows so that they can get the help and support that they need can protect children and prevent abuse. You "movement is that of "virtuous pedophiles" who come together to support one another in their quest to not offend.

Should We Lift the Stigma on “Virtuous Pedophiles”?

Ordinarily, when we speak of pedophiles, we tend to refer to those people who not only feel the desire to have sexual relations with minors but who act on that desire as well. The notion of “virtuous pedophiles” might therefore at first glance seem like an oxymoron—there is nothing “virtuous” about sexually preying on defenseless children, and the title might even appear to be trying to justify immoral and harmful conduct (as some pedophile-oriented web sites apparently do). But it is at least conceptually coherent to distinguish between the conduct of pedophilia—acting sexually upon children—and the mere status of pedophilia—experiencing a desire for such sexual activity. While the former can and should be subject to criminal penalties, the latter, if criminalized, would be a sort of “thought crime” that is and should be anathema to our system of justice. So the real question may be this: Do we trust that there truly are “virtuous pedophiles,” this category of those whose conduct does not reflect their status? (And perhaps a close second question would be: Do we believe that all or most of the specific self-proclaimed “virtuous pedophiles” are in reality what they claim to be?).

I'm quite sure that this will have zero effect on you and your moronic minions, because you are either incapable of learning , fearful of facts that undermine what you want to believe.

'

And right on cue it goes into 'Pedoes Are Just Misunderstood!!! N Stuff!!!' mode, pulling out silly articles from his fellow Pedo-Friendlies as if we're supposed to beleive a word these sick freaks say about anything. These 'mental health experts' lost an cred they had back in the early 1970's, when they caved in to the ****** Privilege Movement's Mau-mauing the APA,; they caved only because the faggots threatened to cost their private practices money. Even at that, the faggots of course lie about the real results. Some 5,800 voted to remove ****** tetishists from the mental disorder category, some 3,800 were honest and brave enough to oppose re-classifying the fetish, but some 10,000 refused to vote at all, so barely 25% of the APA membership od some 20,000 voted to remove the sickos from the sicko list. This vote of course makes it very clear that 'science' didn't have a thing to do with re-classifying it.

Nobody with any sanity claims 'decriminalizing' child rape is some sort of societal 'obligation', so we know where you're coming from, sicko boi.

That is quite an unhinged, bizarre and psychotic rant, that fails to deal with the points that I made in my post. Rather you deflect to some crap about homosexuality and how the APA classifies it with some questionable statics that are not sources . Then you reiterate the bold faced lie that we want to "decriminalize child rape" with absolutely no proof or evidence . You are a ******* shameless liar and fraud!

 

[miketx]

Salon has run articles on how bad pedophiles feel n stuff when people discriminate against the poor hapless dears. Others just hide the fact faggots harbored pedoes and pretend they never heard of NAMBLA and its ILGA founding membership, and of course the faggots masquerading as 'mental health researchers' can be counted on to produce fake 'science' for their fellow faggots to run around peddling.

So you just post this stuff, making reference to "some articles" but think that you don't have to document it.?? Never mind I know what you're referring to, and I know why you didn't post a link. You didn't because those article don't say what you want them to say and don't support the claims that you people are making

They are talking about removing the stigma of the disease that is pedophilia and are distinguishing the disorder from the crime of child abuse. That is a far cry from stating that there is a "movement to "normalize" or decriminalize child sexual abuse. Th=.e only thing that I can't figure out about you people is if you are really this stupid, or that you are a shameless liar .

Opinion | Pedophilia: A Disorder, Not a Crime

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders defines pedophilia as an intense and recurrent sexual interest in prepubescent children, and a disorder if it causes a person “marked distress or interpersonal difficulty” or if the person acts on his interests. Yet our laws ignore pedophilia until after the commission of a sexual offense, emphasizing punishment, not prevention.

Part of this failure stems from the misconception that pedophilia is the same as child molestation. One can live with pedophilia and not act on it. Sites like Virtuous Pedophiles provide support for pedophiles who do not molest children and believe that sex with children is wrong. It is not that these individuals are “inactive” or “nonpracticing” pedophiles, but rather that pedophilia is a status and not an act. In fact, research shows, about half of all child molesters are not sexually attracted to their victims.

Many of these people are struggling with the disorder, and do not abuse children . Lifting the stigma and allowing them to come out of the shadows so that they can get the help and support that they need can protect children and prevent abuse. You "movement is that of "virtuous pedophiles" who come together to support one another in their quest to not offend.

Should We Lift the Stigma on “Virtuous Pedophiles”?

Ordinarily, when we speak of pedophiles, we tend to refer to those people who not only feel the desire to have sexual relations with minors but who act on that desire as well. The notion of “virtuous pedophiles” might therefore at first glance seem like an oxymoron—there is nothing “virtuous” about sexually preying on defenseless children, and the title might even appear to be trying to justify immoral and harmful conduct (as some pedophile-oriented web sites apparently do). But it is at least conceptually coherent to distinguish between the conduct of pedophilia—acting sexually upon children—and the mere status of pedophilia—experiencing a desire for such sexual activity. While the former can and should be subject to criminal penalties, the latter, if criminalized, would be a sort of “thought crime” that is and should be anathema to our system of justice. So the real question may be this: Do we trust that there truly are “virtuous pedophiles,” this category of those whose conduct does not reflect their status? (And perhaps a close second question would be: Do we believe that all or most of the specific self-proclaimed “virtuous pedophiles” are in reality what they claim to be?).

I'm quite sure that this will have zero effect on you and your moronic minions, because you are either incapable of learning , fearful of facts that undermine what you want to believe.

'

And right on cue it goes into 'Pedoes Are Just Misunderstood!!! N Stuff!!!' mode, pulling out silly articles from his fellow Pedo-Friendlies as if we're supposed to beleive a word these sick freaks say about anything. These 'mental health experts' lost an cred they had back in the early 1970's, when they caved in to the ****** Privilege Movement's Mau-mauing the APA,; they caved only because the faggots threatened to cost their private practices money. Even at that, the faggots of course lie about the real results. Some 5,800 voted to remove ****** tetishists from the mental disorder category, some 3,800 were honest and brave enough to oppose re-classifying the fetish, but some 10,000 refused to vote at all, so barely 25% of the APA membership od some 20,000 voted to remove the sickos from the sicko list. This vote of course makes it very clear that 'science' didn't have a thing to do with re-classifying it.

Nobody with any sanity claims 'decriminalizing' child rape is some sort of societal 'obligation', so we know where you're coming from, sicko boi.

That is quite an unhinged, bizarre and psychotic rant, that fails to deal with the points that I made in my post. Rather you deflect to some crap about homosexuality and how the APA classifies it with some questionable statics that are not sources . Then you reiterate the bold faced lie that we want to "decriminalize child rape" with absolutely no proof or evidence . You are a ******* shameless liar and fraud!

I hope you meet up with a mad dad.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

And it gets worse. There is a movement out there with political clout behind it that wants to normalize pedophilia. They want to remove the stigma from child rapers much the same way it was removed from gay folks and to a degree, trans weirdos. Scared shit. Don’t matter what the sexual orientation is. A pedo should have their eyes burnt out and their hands cut off.

Yep, and some of them post here, too. they want to 'decriminalize' child rape, so the rapists can remain free and just attend 'self-help groups' or some stupid left wing Burb Brat idea or other. When you can sell sickos who insist on extreme self-mutilation as 'normal' and allowed to run loose even in school restrooms you have a pretty sick society at large.

Who wants to decriminalize child rape jackass!! To suggest that is as ******* stupid as stupid gets!

you do, sick ****. You run around trying to peddle the myth the demographic that rapes kids at far higher rates per capita than any other on the planet is somehow magically not homosexuals. You have never presented any valid proof otherwise, despite all your noise and advocacy, and besides only you sicko faggots would actually think they had to be 'fair' to kiddie rapers and hold a vote to ban them in the first place. Event hen some 10% of the faggots voted to keep the kiddie rapers on board with your 'movement'; seems they didn't care about the bad press and were fine with having their pedophile founders remain. Know of any other organizations that held votes on whether or not to keep kiddie rapers around? Yeah, nobody else does either.

More horseshit

Horseshit! Try to learn something if you can

Members of disliked minority groups are often stereotyped as representing a danger to the majority's most vulnerable members. For example, Jews in the Middle Ages were accused of murdering Christian babies in ritual sacrifices. Black men in the United States were often lynched after being falsely accused of raping White women. ]

In recent years, antigay activists have routinely asserted that gay people are child molesters. This argument was often made in debates about the Boy Scouts of America's policy to exclude gay scouts and scoutmasters. More recently, in the wake of Rep. Mark Foley's resignation from the US House of Representatives in 2006, antigay activists and their supporters seized on the scandal to revive this canard.

http://psc.dss.ucdavis.edu/faculty_sites/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html

Selected Excerpts:

The number of Americans who believe the myth that gay people are child molesters has declined substantially. In a 1970 national survey, more than 70% of respondents agreed with the assertions that "Homosexuals are dangerous as teachers or youth leaders because they try to get sexually involved with children" or that "Homosexuals try to play sexually with children if they cannot get an adult partner."1

By contrast, in a 1999 national poll, the belief that most gay men are likely to molest or abuse children was endorsed by only 19% of heterosexual men and 10% of heterosexual women. Even fewer – 9% of men and 6% of women – regarded most lesbians as child molesters.

Apparently you're a part of the moronic minority( Yes a play on words lifted from the moral majority)

One problem is that none of the studies in this area have obtained data from a probability sample, that is, a sample that can be assumed to be representative of the population of all child molesters. Rather, most research has been conducted only with convicted perpetrators or with pedophiles who sought professional help. Consequently, they may not accurately describe child molesters who have never been caught or have not sought treatment.


A second problem is that the terminology used in this area is often confusing and can even be misleading. We can begin to address that problem by defining some basic terms.

Pedophilia and child molestation are used in different ways, even by professionals. Pedophilia usually refers to an adult psychological disorder characterized by a preference for prepubescent children as sexual partners; this preference may or may not be acted upon. The term hebephilia is sometimes used to describe adult sexual attractions to adolescents or children who have reached puberty.



Child molestation and child sexual abuse refer to actions, and don't imply a particular psychological makeup or motive on the part of the perpetrator. Not all incidents of child sexual abuse are perpetrated by pedophiles or hebephiles; in some cases, the perpetrator has other motives for his or her actions and does not manifest an ongoing pattern of sexual attraction to children.

Thus, not all child sexual abuse is perpetrated by pedophiles (or hebephiles) and not all pedophiles and hebephiles actually commit abuse. Consequently, it is important to use terminology carefully.

Hopefully, you are beginning to see that the issue is a bit more complicated than your small mind is able or willing to contemplate

Another problem related to terminology arises because sexual abuse of male children by adult men2 is often referred to as "homosexual molestation." The adjective "homosexual" (or "heterosexual" when a man abuses a female child) refers to the victim's gender in relation to that of the perpetrator. Unfortunately, people sometimes mistakenly interpret it as referring to the perpetrator's sexual orientation.

Now we are getting to the crux of the issue. Still with me, or are you watching porn and jerking off, rather than trying to learn somthing?

As an expert panel of researchers convened by the National Academy of Sciences noted in a 1993 report: "The distinction between homosexual and heterosexual child molesters relies on the premise that male molesters of male victims are homosexual in orientation. Most molesters of boys do not report sexual interest in adult men, however" (National Research Council, 1993, p. 143, citation omitted).

To avoid this confusion, it is preferable to refer to men's sexual abuse of boys with the more accurate label of male-male molestation. Similarly, it is preferable to refer to men's abuse of girls as male-female molestation. These labels are more accurate because they describe the sex of the individuals involved but don't implicitly convey unwarranted assumptions about the perpetrator's sexual orientation.

Typologies of
Offenders The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children – boys, girls, or children of both sexes.

lol the freak posts a link to some Rainbow ****** nonsense and expects to be taken seriously. lol lol lol you are indeed an sicko freak, Chester.

There is something seriously wrong with your brain. Are you really that afraid of learning something that might challenge your preconceived ideas. Are you that afraid of actually thinking>? Apparently so.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Salon has run articles on how bad pedophiles feel n stuff when people discriminate against the poor hapless dears. Others just hide the fact faggots harbored pedoes and pretend they never heard of NAMBLA and its ILGA founding membership, and of course the faggots masquerading as 'mental health researchers' can be counted on to produce fake 'science' for their fellow faggots to run around peddling.

So you just post this stuff, making reference to "some articles" but think that you don't have to document it.?? Never mind I know what you're referring to, and I know why you didn't post a link. You didn't because those article don't say what you want them to say and don't support the claims that you people are making

They are talking about removing the stigma of the disease that is pedophilia and are distinguishing the disorder from the crime of child abuse. That is a far cry from stating that there is a "movement to "normalize" or decriminalize child sexual abuse. Th=.e only thing that I can't figure out about you people is if you are really this stupid, or that you are a shameless liar .

Opinion | Pedophilia: A Disorder, Not a Crime

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders defines pedophilia as an intense and recurrent sexual interest in prepubescent children, and a disorder if it causes a person “marked distress or interpersonal difficulty” or if the person acts on his interests. Yet our laws ignore pedophilia until after the commission of a sexual offense, emphasizing punishment, not prevention.

Part of this failure stems from the misconception that pedophilia is the same as child molestation. One can live with pedophilia and not act on it. Sites like Virtuous Pedophiles provide support for pedophiles who do not molest children and believe that sex with children is wrong. It is not that these individuals are “inactive” or “nonpracticing” pedophiles, but rather that pedophilia is a status and not an act. In fact, research shows, about half of all child molesters are not sexually attracted to their victims.

Many of these people are struggling with the disorder, and do not abuse children . Lifting the stigma and allowing them to come out of the shadows so that they can get the help and support that they need can protect children and prevent abuse. You "movement is that of "virtuous pedophiles" who come together to support one another in their quest to not offend.

Should We Lift the Stigma on “Virtuous Pedophiles”?

Ordinarily, when we speak of pedophiles, we tend to refer to those people who not only feel the desire to have sexual relations with minors but who act on that desire as well. The notion of “virtuous pedophiles” might therefore at first glance seem like an oxymoron—there is nothing “virtuous” about sexually preying on defenseless children, and the title might even appear to be trying to justify immoral and harmful conduct (as some pedophile-oriented web sites apparently do). But it is at least conceptually coherent to distinguish between the conduct of pedophilia—acting sexually upon children—and the mere status of pedophilia—experiencing a desire for such sexual activity. While the former can and should be subject to criminal penalties, the latter, if criminalized, would be a sort of “thought crime” that is and should be anathema to our system of justice. So the real question may be this: Do we trust that there truly are “virtuous pedophiles,” this category of those whose conduct does not reflect their status? (And perhaps a close second question would be: Do we believe that all or most of the specific self-proclaimed “virtuous pedophiles” are in reality what they claim to be?).

I'm quite sure that this will have zero effect on you and your moronic minions, because you are either incapable of learning , fearful of facts that undermine what you want to believe.

'

And right on cue it goes into 'Pedoes Are Just Misunderstood!!! N Stuff!!!' mode, pulling out silly articles from his fellow Pedo-Friendlies as if we're supposed to beleive a word these sick freaks say about anything. These 'mental health experts' lost an cred they had back in the early 1970's, when they caved in to the ****** Privilege Movement's Mau-mauing the APA,; they caved only because the faggots threatened to cost their private practices money. Even at that, the faggots of course lie about the real results. Some 5,800 voted to remove ****** tetishists from the mental disorder category, some 3,800 were honest and brave enough to oppose re-classifying the fetish, but some 10,000 refused to vote at all, so barely 25% of the APA membership od some 20,000 voted to remove the sickos from the sicko list. This vote of course makes it very clear that 'science' didn't have a thing to do with re-classifying it.

Nobody with any sanity claims 'decriminalizing' child rape is some sort of societal 'obligation', so we know where you're coming from, sicko boi.

That is quite an unhinged, bizarre and psychotic rant, that fails to deal with the points that I made in my post. Rather you deflect to some crap about homosexuality and how the APA classifies it with some questionable statics that are not sources . Then you reiterate the bold faced lie that we want to "decriminalize child rape" with absolutely no proof or evidence . You are a ******* shameless liar and fraud!

I hope you meet up with a mad dad.

What the **** is that supposed to mean moron? Are you implying that I condone child sexual a abuse. Please point to something that I posted that supports that claim or shut the **** up.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Far as that go’s, the mods will eat my ass if I open link to the place. MDK has seen it and ill pm a link to anyone who asks, and I’ll also pm a link to the folks who are fighting the normalization of child rape. Capo can use his google button.

Yes, that is the irony; no one can really tell the truth about these vermin without being banged for violations'. If the real truth could be shown without censorship, this entire 'movement' would dead within two weeks. 'Progressive' is just a code word for sociopathic Commie these days, anyway; they like to destroy cultures and societies, and replace them with nothing; they're just mad at Daddy, infantile and self-indulgent Burb Brats.

Holy ******* shit ! You people are bizarre! What ******* movement? Are you psychotic,? Paranoid schizophrenic ? Or just that stupid!??

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Far as that go’s, the mods will eat my ass if I open link to the place. MDK has seen it and ill pm a link to anyone who asks, and I’ll also pm a link to the folks who are fighting the normalization of child rape. Capo can use his google button.

Yes, that is the irony; no one can really tell the truth about these vermin without being banged for violations'. If the real truth could be shown without censorship, this entire 'movement' would dead within two weeks.

With the group lobbying to have child molesting made normal, comes an army of lawyers. USMB is rightfully protecting it’s all because that group has a shit ton of money and is backed by allot of politicians both republicans and democrat. I don’t blame admin at all.

Ever think that the USMB might have a problem with your for implying that they are complicit in your imaginary conspiracy bullshit about normalizing child sexual abuse?. You seem to be obsessed about sex and children. Makes me wonder. Just saying , dude.