No other president

[Lockback]

So articulate the threat.

Well, let's see here ...
The regime that has killed more Americans in the last couple of decades goes about developing nuclear weapons.
They don't need nuclear power. They have plenty of oil for that. Oil for decades.
Nope, they want nuclear bombs.
Why do they want those?
Well, they hate the West, but in particularly Israel and the United States.
"B-b-b-b-but they don't have intercontinental ballistic missiles!"
Nope.
But they have ships. And agents all over the world who can carry a nuke in a suitcase.
If you don't think Iran was capable of exacting a horrible, ghastly toll upon Western civilization, I'm sorry. I can't help you. It's like talking to somebody in the 1930s and them saying, "Oh, I don't think the military Hitler is building is a threat to anybody."
In other words: ******* stupid beyond words.

 

[Lockback]

Threat to the US not threat to some other country.

If we are going to attack every country who’s form of government we don’t agree with that’s going to be a long list.

 

[JoeB131]

Oooh, looks like I hit a nerve with the wingnuts.

Please link us to all your complaints about the 26,000 bombs Obama

Obama isn't president anymore. But thanks for admiting Trump fucked up.

A "sneak attack"?
Oh, we were supposed to give them notice?

Um, yeah, if you tell them you are negotiating a resolution and then attack them, that's pretty cowardly.
It was cowardly when the Japanese did it 85 years ago, and it's cowardly when Trump did it.

Every President in your lifetime has bombed a country that isnt a threat to the US. None of them were expecting to be bombed by the US. Every one of them was a "sneak attack". BTW everyone and their brother has been reporting that an attack on Iran from the US and Israel was eminent for at least a week if not more. This was the worst "sneak attack" in history.

Where was the declaration of war? Or that negotiations were over?

 

[JoeB131]

"sneak?" Trump has warned them for months to negotiate the end to their nuke dreams or he was going take them out. They might have had a hint with the two aircraft carriers and several destroyers cruising the hood.

Except they were negotiating. IN fact, they gave Trump everything he asked for, and he attacked them anyway.

 

[Etymology gaslight]

I’ll bet Teddy Roosevelt would have been up for it if he’d had access to cruise missiles and stealth bombers.

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He annexed natural parks. Panama canal

Bully !
President then paroah Taft torched his friend.
Birth of bull moose.
Progressive
So comes communism with bernie in/from my beloved Vermont.
Liberals ruined our nice State.

 

[Lockback]

Um, yeah, if you tell them you are negotiating a resolution and then attack them, that's pretty cowardly.
It was cowardly when the Japanese did it 85 years ago, and it's cowardly when Trump did it.

Oh, **** off.
We gave them 10 days and their time ran out. They were stalling.
Trump doesn't mess around,
Times up, motherfuckers!

 

[Etymology gaslight]

Threat to the US not threat to some other country.

If we are going to attack every country who’s form of government we don’t agree with that’s going to be a long list.

I think it's a bit more than "disagreement"
but i love that you are civil & in on this conversation

 

[JoeB131]

They knew that Japan's plans for attacks and invasions throughout Western Pacific~East Asia to expand their "Greater East-Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere" would be attacked and hampered if the US Navy Pacific Fleet was functional. The attack on Pearl Harbor was an essential "pre-emptive" but wasn't a stand-alone. The also did attacks in the Philippines and several other places; China, Hong-Kong, Southeast Asia, Dutch East Indies, etc.

Either you flunked world history and hence know nothing, or you are intentionally spewing disinformation and pravda.

Um, I'm not sure why spewing out a bunch of incidentals is the issue here. The point was, Japan claimed it was negotiating while planning sneak attacks. Just like Trump did.

You’re a moron and a liar. Not a great combo.

He told them that they’d be getting hit if they didn’t start to negotiate in good faith.

Except they were negotiating in good faith in Geneva.

 

[Lockback]

Um, I'm not sure why spewing out a bunch of incidentals is the issue here. The point was, Japan claimed it was negotiating while planning sneak attacks. Just like Trump did.



Except they were negotiating in good faith in Geneva.

 

[Couchpotato]

Oooh, looks like I hit a nerve with the wingnuts.


Obama isn't president anymore. But thanks for admiting Trump fucked up.


Um, yeah, if you tell them you are negotiating a resolution and then attack them, that's pretty cowardly.
It was cowardly when the Japanese did it 85 years ago, and it's cowardly when Trump did it.



Where was the declaration of war? Or that negotiations were over?

We haven’t declared war since WW2. Do you think that’s the last time we bombed another country?

 

[JoeB131]

This post is so poor in moral thought it crosses the line into mental illness.

"It's okay when we do it" is not an argument.

Also, don't delude yourself into thinking Trump is the one calling the shots. Bibi is.

 

[JoeB131]

We haven’t declared war since WW2. Do you think that’s the last time we bombed another country?

Not sure how that makes it "okay".

In most of those other cases, we were coming to the aid of an ally or enforcing UN/NATO mandates

Not in this case.

 

[Couchpotato]

I think it's a bit more than "disagreement"
but i love that you are civil & in on this conversation

There are a lot of countries we have far greater disagreement with than Iran that we are t bombing. There is a single reason we are don’t it. Israel.

 

[Couchpotato]

Not sure how that makes it "okay".

In most of those other cases, we were coming to the aid of an ally or enforcing UN/NATO mandates

Not in this case.

I’m not saying it does, the opposite is true. I’m pointing out that your opposition to actions like this seem to be confined to when Trump does it. I don’t remember you posting when Biden bombed countries without a declaration of war. Or Obama.

 

[Couchpotato]

"It's okay when we do it" is not an argument.

Also, don't delude yourself into thinking Trump is the one calling the shots. Bibi is.

Neither is it’s ok when politicians I agree with do it…

 

[SaxonJackson]

No other president has done this before.
The courage of conviction & leadership.
Washington Jackson Grant lincoln
Roosevelt x2
Eisenhower Kennedy Trump.


Am i missing anyone ?

The ever trustworthy wiki
is my go to source
&
Snopes.

Foreign policy of the second Trump administration - Wikipedia https://share.google/8Xj4ODEDGmQzVZHTp

Every era is different.
Each is accountable of/for their own history.
Journalism is coming back.

Yes. It takes extraordinary "courage" to send someone else's sons to preemptively strike another nation when you are safe behind your desk and your own kids are hanging out at the local golf course. Super duper courageous.

 

[Rawley]

Except they were negotiating. IN fact, they gave Trump everything he asked for, and he attacked them anyway.

Nope. Is that what Maddow is telling you? You really should stop watching that shit. They rarely get anything right.

 

[Etymology gaslight]

There are a lot of countries we have far greater disagreement with than Iran that we are t bombing. There is a single reason we are don’t it. Israel.

Have you been to Iran recently ?
Global politics warming and democracy all is happening in one day.
It's Normandy

In one day

 

[Doc7505]

A "sneak attack"?
Oh, we were supposed to give them notice?
I can honestly say I don't think I've ever seen anybody online who's so far removed from reality. It amazes me. It's like I'm watching a psychological study of insects or something.

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Trump publicly announced that Iran had ten days to come to the negotiation table and stop their procrastination and stalling.
They refused gence the ten days ran their course.
Case closed.

 

[airplanemechanic]

And they were about to attack US military bases.

If Trump had let that happen, Indiana Jones would have been the first one to complain that Trump didn't prevent it.

No matter what Trump does, TDS-addled weirdoes will always insist on the opposite.

It's a sickness without a cure.

Yep.

Everyone remember, if Trump does nothing, he's a TACO. If he does something, he's a war monger.

**** democrats. There is a reason they don't have control of the toilets right now on capitol hill.