No One Has a Right to Health Care

[Campbell]

republican compassion....iraq...5000 dead and 30,000 maimed for life. People that send the poor and minorities to war for profit surly do not care if you feel well. I cant wait for the revolution. Eat the rich.

Yeah...Bush and his god pulled that mess out of their asses. Ever notice how Republicans are good at starting wars but never go fight and die in them?

Most people in the military are Republican.

Horse shit.....that's just what they lead their CO's to believe. Their votes are something else.

I can understand career military being Republican.....they know who starts unnecessary wars.

 

[Campbell]

145 IQ, Masters in History. You, masters in RW propaganda.

Your Masters are in food stamp scamming and getting HUD homes. Who are you trying to kid????

Yours is constantly cutting tax rates for the rich, continuing to spend trillions on the military even though we're already more powerful than the next eight most powerful combined and the last time anyone actually surrendered to us was in August, 1945. The national debt belongs to Republicans......they are the ones who cut tax rates, continued to increase spending and borrowed the shortfall from foreign banks.

 

[Likkmee]

A right to healthcare would seem to improve life and pursuit of happiness. As they say "two out of three ain't bad".

Agreed.. that's why contrary to public opinion, we don't deny access to healthcare.

The welfare state compels taxpayers and producers to pay for healthcare - but socialized medicine will bankrupt the nation. I mean the US is already bankrupt t---the national debt is over 18 TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTrillion $$$$$.

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Fake paper and digital numbers. Tell whoever the debtors think they are that the dog ate the paper and their was a computer glitch.
Let's start over.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

145 IQ, Masters in History. You, masters in RW propaganda.

Your Masters are in food stamp scamming and getting HUD homes. Who are you trying to kid????

Yours is constantly cutting tax rates for the rich, continuing to spend trillions on the military even though we're already more powerful than the next eight most powerful combined and the last time anyone actually surrendered to us was in August, 1945. The national debt belongs to Republicans......they are the ones who cut tax rates, continued to increase spending and borrowed the shortfall from foreign banks.

Then maybe you should look at a federal deficit chart and see when the deficit decreased; it was after the Republicans took leadership of Congress. And remember since that time, it's the Republicans who fought against DumBama and all his spending sprees.

And while you're at it, see what the Republicans did last time they had a major tax change. That's right, they increased taxes on the rich.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

republican compassion....iraq...5000 dead and 30,000 maimed for life. People that send the poor and minorities to war for profit surly do not care if you feel well. I cant wait for the revolution. Eat the rich.

Yeah...Bush and his god pulled that mess out of their asses. Ever notice how Republicans are good at starting wars but never go fight and die in them?

Most people in the military are Republican.

Horse shit.....that's just what they lead their CO's to believe. Their votes are something else.

I can understand career military being Republican.....they know who starts unnecessary wars.

Military no less conservative, but less Republican, survey finds

 

[Campbell]

145 IQ, Masters in History. You, masters in RW propaganda.

Your Masters are in food stamp scamming and getting HUD homes. Who are you trying to kid????

Yours is constantly cutting tax rates for the rich, continuing to spend trillions on the military even though we're already more powerful than the next eight most powerful combined and the last time anyone actually surrendered to us was in August, 1945. The national debt belongs to Republicans......they are the ones who cut tax rates, continued to increase spending and borrowed the shortfall from foreign banks.

Then maybe you should look at a federal deficit chart and see when the deficit decreased; it was after the Republicans took leadership of Congress. And remember since that time, it's the Republicans who fought against DumBama and all his spending sprees.

And while you're at it, see what the Republicans did last time they had a major tax change. That's right, they increased taxes on the rich.

Hose Shit!! Tax cuts for the rich is what ran up the debt. Obama has spent over two trillion dollars just making interest payments on the Republican debt:

..............................................Total U S Debt................................................

Figures Easily Verified....Taken From the Bureau of the Debt

US: $18,775,084,981,440 - Debt as of December 2015?

09/30/2014 $17,824,071,380,733.82

09/30/2013 $16,738,183,526,697.32

09/30/2012 $16,066,241,407,385.89

09/30/2011 $14,790,340,328,557.15

09/30/2010 $13,561,623,030,891.79

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48

09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23

09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50

09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62

09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34

09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73

09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39

09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32 (Bill Clinton Raised Taxes On The Rich early 1993)

09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38 ( Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)

09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66

09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03

09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25

09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32

09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16

09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00

09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42

09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00

09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00

09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)(Reagan Slashed Tax Rates To Pre Depression Levels)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

 

[regent]

Should all veterans have health care?

Yes they should. Why would you ask that?

If no one has a right to health care, does that mean "no one" or actually some Americans do have a right? So if some Americans do have a right to health care then who decides and decides on what basis?

We're the only industrialized nation in the world which doesn't provide total health care for all it's citizens. We're also the only one with a thousand insurance companies.

We now have flights to Cuba, Venezuela , Somalia , any paradise you wish

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Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out

Esther La Vista, Dude

So if some Americans have a right to health care and some do not, who should decide and on what basis?

 

[regent]

Should all veterans have health care?

Yes they should. Why would you ask that?

If no one has a right to health care, does that mean "no one" or actually some Americans do have a right? So if some Americans do have a right to health care then who decides and decides on what basis?

It's not a right, it's a benefit for joining our military to fight for our country. It's no different than retirement plans or healthcare after retirement if you worked for a company that had those provisions.

So should all Americans get health care benefits for being an American?

 

[Rustic]

republican compassion....iraq...5000 dead and 30,000 maimed for life. People that send the poor and minorities to war for profit surly do not care if you feel well. I cant wait for the revolution. Eat the rich.

Yeah...Bush and his god pulled that mess out of their asses. Ever notice how Republicans are good at starting wars but never go fight and die in them?

Most people in the military are Republican.

Horse shit.....that's just what they lead their CO's to believe. Their votes are something else.

I can understand career military being Republican.....they know who starts unnecessary wars.

It's a military thing, you would not understand...

 

[Contumacious]

Should all veterans have health care?

Yes they should. Why would you ask that?

If no one has a right to health care, does that mean "no one" or actually some Americans do have a right? So if some Americans do have a right to health care then who decides and decides on what basis?

We're the only industrialized nation in the world which doesn't provide total health care for all it's citizens. We're also the only one with a thousand insurance companies.

We now have flights to Cuba, Venezuela , Somalia , any paradise you wish

..
Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out

Esther La Vista, Dude

So if some Americans have a right to health care and some do not, who should decide and on what basis?

As an American you have a right to life, liberty, property and to pursue happiness.

Under the old Constitution (1787-1935) Taxpayers and producers had no responsibility to provide them to you. You were responsible for procuring the same.

But the Constitution now in effect, FDR's Socialist Manifesto , the government can compel the citizens to do what the government believes is right. No right to judicial review.


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[regent]

Yes they should. Why would you ask that?

If no one has a right to health care, does that mean "no one" or actually some Americans do have a right? So if some Americans do have a right to health care then who decides and decides on what basis?

We're the only industrialized nation in the world which doesn't provide total health care for all it's citizens. We're also the only one with a thousand insurance companies.

We now have flights to Cuba, Venezuela , Somalia , any paradise you wish

..
Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out

Esther La Vista, Dude

So if some Americans have a right to health care and some do not, who should decide and on what basis?

As an American you have a right to life, liberty, property and to pursue happiness.

Under the old Constitution (1787-1935) Taxpayers and producers had no responsibility to provide them to you. You were responsible for procuring the same.

But the Constitution now in effect, FDR's Socialist Manifesto , the government can compel the citizens to do what the government believes is right. No right to judicial review.


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In the old Constitution it was a state government responsibility, when the states could no longer assume that responsibility the national government took on that responsibility.

 

[francoHFW]

145 IQ, Masters in History. You, masters in RW propaganda.

Your Masters are in food stamp scamming and getting HUD homes. Who are you trying to kid????

Retired teacher and businessman, brainwashed functional moron.

 

[francoHFW]

Less than they did BEFORE O-Care. It takes time for transparent competition and new regulation COMING to bring down the old GOP scam costs. Especially with mindless GOP obstruction and fear mongering.

See 10% increases in Medicaid/Medicare across all states for 2016.

2015-06-01 - Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services

That's Medicare Advantage, which is for the richer among us, and which Obama and Dems wanted to end. 10% is less than the average rise under W.

Clearly increases do happen across the board yearly.

You consider the advantage plans for the rich? Really?

You are a dumbass.

The richer among us I said, dingbat. lol. To say it was Medicaid and Medicare as you did, if I were you, I would call you a LIAR. But I'll just call you mistaken and misinformed, AGAIN.

The" richer " that can qualify for subsidies via the exchange based on low income status?

So... The supplemental plans for Medicaid and Medicare aren't really Medicaid and Medicare related? Even though they are dictated by Medicare and Medicaid rules ?

So you ARE a liar. Related? lol.

 

[francoHFW]

Near as I can tell....it's still not a right.

Not for the poor in red states, but for people with pre-existing, and everyone else, YUP. It's not ACA's fault that it will take time for competition and regulation to bring down costs of the old, corrupt GOP "system".

Oh, Commie Care is the Republicans fault again, huh?

Well......at least you didn't say it was Reagan's fault which is what you usually say.

"The best part about being a Democrat is never having to say you were wrong."
Ray from Cleveland

Overwhelming % of problems with ACA are in red states and areas, dupe. Your problems and the ones in the article are from avoiding it due to to believing Pub propaganda.

 

[francoHFW]

Moral of story: Don't cancel your policy, and don't listen to a-hole GOPers...from your link:

"When people get that bill for a full-price plan, they panic and they cancel the insurance," said Elizabeth Colvin of Foundation Communities, an Austin nonprofit that serves low-income people. Some worry the problem could undermine the law's insurance markets, now in their third year.

"These problems can grow, and they can contribute to undermining consumer faith in the system, and that could lead to attrition," said Rachel Klein of Families USA, an advocacy group that supports the health law.

Pressured by a Republican-led Congress hostile to Obama's overhaul, the administration is highly sensitive to criticism that some people may be getting benefits they're not legally entitled to. But Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia M. Burwell recently acknowledged the paperwork tangle is more likely to trap the innocent than fraudsters.



Would help if the GOP would allow an immigration bill instead of using it as a wedge issue...great job!!

why do we need another immigration bill? Its already in the constitution and there are already laws. How about they get followed first, then once this current invasion is reversed, then, and only then should something be looked at to make our borders stronger.

Because we have 11 million illegals, they work, pay taxes, and own homes, and a fence is stupid and won't work. Only a good SS/ID card will, dupes. Pubs love cheap, easily bullied labor, and distract the dupes with wall bs and laws that only harass illegals. Ay caramba.

And Democrats are selling out America for votes while at the same time, allowing our wages to remain stagnant because of these illegals. Then when Americans fall on hard times, they blame the Republicans and the rich people instead of themselves.

BS, dupe. Dems have been trying to get a good SS/ID card forever. And to get higher wages...Blaming them for this mess is amazing big lie stuff...

Higher wages only happens when unions threaten companies to overpay workers, government increases the minimum wage which is a tax on everybody, or supply and demand. The latter the most natural way for wages to increase.

Too much supply and not enough demand, prices lower. Too little supply and high demand, prices increase.

As long as Democrats keep bringing in these foreigners, there will never be a situation of too little supply, because we have an endless supply right on that southern border.

Higher wages happen when Pubs aren't obstructing fairness, dupe.

Pass the Lindsay Graham Immigration Bill with a good SS/ID card and END THIS PUB MESS.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

145 IQ, Masters in History. You, masters in RW propaganda.

Your Masters are in food stamp scamming and getting HUD homes. Who are you trying to kid????

Retired teacher and businessman, brainwashed functional moron.

You admit to being a brainwashed functional moron ?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Near as I can tell....it's still not a right.

Not for the poor in red states, but for people with pre-existing, and everyone else, YUP. It's not ACA's fault that it will take time for competition and regulation to bring down costs of the old, corrupt GOP "system".

Oh, Commie Care is the Republicans fault again, huh?

Well......at least you didn't say it was Reagan's fault which is what you usually say.

"The best part about being a Democrat is never having to say you were wrong."
Ray from Cleveland

Overwhelming % of problems with ACA are in red states and areas, dupe. Your problems and the ones in the article are from avoiding it due to to believing Pub propaganda.

The ACA is a small player right now.

That is what the GOP does not get.

It will settle in and become larger.

A larger mess.

 

[Rustic]

why do we need another immigration bill? Its already in the constitution and there are already laws. How about they get followed first, then once this current invasion is reversed, then, and only then should something be looked at to make our borders stronger.

Because we have 11 million illegals, they work, pay taxes, and own homes, and a fence is stupid and won't work. Only a good SS/ID card will, dupes. Pubs love cheap, easily bullied labor, and distract the dupes with wall bs and laws that only harass illegals. Ay caramba.

And Democrats are selling out America for votes while at the same time, allowing our wages to remain stagnant because of these illegals. Then when Americans fall on hard times, they blame the Republicans and the rich people instead of themselves.

BS, dupe. Dems have been trying to get a good SS/ID card forever. And to get higher wages...Blaming them for this mess is amazing big lie stuff...

Higher wages only happens when unions threaten companies to overpay workers, government increases the minimum wage which is a tax on everybody, or supply and demand. The latter the most natural way for wages to increase.

Too much supply and not enough demand, prices lower. Too little supply and high demand, prices increase.

As long as Democrats keep bringing in these foreigners, there will never be a situation of too little supply, because we have an endless supply right on that southern border.

Higher wages happen when Pubs aren't obstructing fairness, dupe.

Pass the Lindsay Graham Immigration Bill with a good SS/ID card and END THIS PUB MESS.

Lindsay is a Rino, nothing good comes from them. Best to be ignored.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

why do we need another immigration bill? Its already in the constitution and there are already laws. How about they get followed first, then once this current invasion is reversed, then, and only then should something be looked at to make our borders stronger.

Because we have 11 million illegals, they work, pay taxes, and own homes, and a fence is stupid and won't work. Only a good SS/ID card will, dupes. Pubs love cheap, easily bullied labor, and distract the dupes with wall bs and laws that only harass illegals. Ay caramba.

And Democrats are selling out America for votes while at the same time, allowing our wages to remain stagnant because of these illegals. Then when Americans fall on hard times, they blame the Republicans and the rich people instead of themselves.

BS, dupe. Dems have been trying to get a good SS/ID card forever. And to get higher wages...Blaming them for this mess is amazing big lie stuff...

Higher wages only happens when unions threaten companies to overpay workers, government increases the minimum wage which is a tax on everybody, or supply and demand. The latter the most natural way for wages to increase.

Too much supply and not enough demand, prices lower. Too little supply and high demand, prices increase.

As long as Democrats keep bringing in these foreigners, there will never be a situation of too little supply, because we have an endless supply right on that southern border.

Higher wages happen when Pubs aren't obstructing fairness, dupe.

Pass the Lindsay Graham Immigration Bill with a good SS/ID card and END THIS PUB MESS.

I have a better idea: create a law that states anybody caught here illegally faces a minimum sentence of 5 years in prison. They will rush that border like there is a pile of money on the other side. No fence, no more money spent on additional border patrol, problem solved.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

145 IQ, Masters in History. You, masters in RW propaganda.

Your Masters are in food stamp scamming and getting HUD homes. Who are you trying to kid????

Retired teacher and businessman, brainwashed functional moron.

Yeah, you sure write like one.