NO more EC!

We. Are. NOT. A. Pure. Democracy.

We dont' to be.

Watch. Learn.



No one is a pure democracy. PR isn't pure democracy.

Who is "we"? Republicans who have now benefited twice in 16 years from the Electoral College system? They said the system was rigged two days ago... what happened to that? .


Who is 'we'? Seriously? 'We' is the USofA. The USoA is not a pure democracy, it isn't a democracy at all. We (the USofA) are a republic. A representative republic. Have you ever even said the Pledge, cause it's right in there. Did you even bother to watch the video?? smh

No, we're not going to do away with the EC. It works as it's suppose to. Just because you don't like the outcome doesn't mean it has to change. I cannot believe the amount of whining from the left cause their gal lost.

The system is rigged ... money, media biased, voter fraud. Americans finally had enough and managed to actually over-vote all the crap.



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So, you come on here and proclaim to speak for ALL AMERICANS? I don't think so.

People keep talking about "pure democracy", I don't know of any countries that are "pure democracy" and I'm not calling for "pure democracy".

Also, I know what the US is, and I'm calling for change. Saying "we're this, therefore we can't change" is a ridiculous argument.

It works as it's supposed to do? What, to keep the rich in charge of the country? To make some people's votes useless and increase the power of other people's votes?

Wow.

Like I said, a week ago Trump supporters were calling for change. They called the system rigged. Now they're loving it, as it's given them two presidents in 16 years.


It is rigged .... money, media biased, voter fraud. He won despite all of the and more.

Yes, I speak for all Americans when I say that WE are a republic.

Saying "we're this, therefore we can't change" is a ridiculous argument.

Take it up with the Constitution. And go get you some civics 101 classes so you understand that our present system gives everyone a voice, it prevents the majority from silencing the minority.
 
It's a rubbish system. It doesn't allow for democracy. Everyone wanted change a few days ago, now they want status quo. How quickly things change, huh?


"It doesn't allow for DEMOCRACY"?

Wow...the lib is strong in you. That is simply bullshit.

What it didn't allow for was a Hillary victory. If our board libs could market their sour grapes they could become rich (and probably conservatives).
 
The left have 1001 excuses why Trump kicked Hilary's ass, now the EC is unfair? They grab 55 electoral votes in California with a simple 51 percent majority. I think Rush is right, the left is never happy about anything.
 
Yeah, they sure are crying in their Safe Spaces these days. They sound deranged. I'm surprised they haven't blamed her losing on DA BOOOOSH or Globull Warming yet.
Stay tuned i guess. :laugh:
 
It's a rubbish system. It doesn't allow for democracy. Everyone wanted change a few days ago, now they want status quo. How quickly things change, huh?
Dip shit, this is supposed to be a republic not a shit eating democracy.
Without the EC Rural states might as will not even vote, they will be more than canceled out by just California alone. Get a clue snowflake

Or be part of the Unites States at all, with no power and scumbag liberals ruling them with an iron fist rural states may as well secede from the union. These liberal losers just have sour grapes. I mean its funny, they were convinced beyond any doubt Hilary was going to win so they are unhinged.
 
Its foolish of the Democrats to want to get rid of the Electoral College. I think the winning position is to enhance the requirement to become President Elect by making it to where you must both get the MAJORITY Of the EV (270+) and the PLURALITY of the popular vote. In this day and age of knowing who won the night of the election…it is crazy not to consider the popular choice of the people. It is the democratic thing to do (yes, I know we are a Republic).

And, before you start, no I’m not saying that because I thought the House would pick someone other than President Elect Trump to be POTUS… I’m saying that because I firmly feel it is the best system going forward.
Without the EC rual states might as well not even vote… Fact
 
It's a rubbish system. It doesn't allow for democracy. Everyone wanted change a few days ago, now they want status quo. How quickly things change, huh?


"It doesn't allow for DEMOCRACY"?

Wow...the lib is strong in you. That is simply bullshit.

What it didn't allow for was a Hillary victory. If our board libs could market their sour grapes they could become rich (and probably conservatives).

As if the right hasn't spent the last 8 years crying about a black man being in the White House.
 
It's a rubbish system. It doesn't allow for democracy. Everyone wanted change a few days ago, now they want status quo. How quickly things change, huh?


"It doesn't allow for DEMOCRACY"?

Wow...the lib is strong in you. That is simply bullshit.

What it didn't allow for was a Hillary victory. If our board libs could market their sour grapes they could become rich (and probably conservatives).

As if the right hasn't spent the last 8 years crying about a black man being in the White House.
Playing the race card again, if you knew what real racism is. Lol
 
LMFAO
Just monday the big lefty rage was "Clinton is going to kick ass in the EC vote" she loses and the limp wrists want it changed
:bang3:
ATTENTION bedwetters : Almost 1/5 of the EC vote is tied up in ONE state. Dems get it EVERY time. Your candidate just fucking SUCKED. She is a liar, corrupt, goes against the leftist rhetoric of the last 3 decades and a cheater.
THINK

When the Democrats lose the popular vote to the Electoral College they call for change, and why?

Simple, a state like California can throw the election in their favor every time...

Isn't funny if you subtract the California results Trump win the popular vote but add in California and Clinton win by the smallest margin since Bush won!?!

Electoral College is perfect in many ways and if it would have given Clinton the win I would write the same damn thing!
 
It's tough to say what would have happened if we elected the president on the popular vote. Trump probably would have campaigned harder in California, which he basically ignored since it would have been a waste of time and resources. He may have chosen a Californian running mate. Conservative Californians would have had more reason to get out and vote, since it would have counted for something.
 
This is the fifth time the President has not won the popular vote. Now add Trump to the list:
  • In 1824 Andrew Jackson won the popular vote but got less than 50 percent of the electoral votes. John Quincy Adams became the next president when he was picked by the House of Representatives.
  • In 1876 Samuel Tilden won the popular vote but lost the election when Rutherford B. Hayes got 185 electoral votes to Tilden’s 184.
  • In 1888 Grover Cleveland won the popular vote but lost the election when Benjamin Harrison got 233 electoral votes to Cleveland’s 168.
  • In 2000 Al Gore won the popular vote but lost the election to George Bush. In the most highly contested election in modern history, the U.S. Supreme Court stopped the Florida recount of ballots, giving Bush the state’s 25 electoral votes for a total of 271 to Gore’s 255.
The popular vote elects every other leader in this country. It's weird that the President is different, but no one likes playing with the Holy Constitution.
Just be glad the popular vote elects Senators now and be quiet.
 
It's a rubbish system. It doesn't allow for democracy. Everyone wanted change a few days ago, now they want status quo. How quickly things change, huh?


"It doesn't allow for DEMOCRACY"?

Wow...the lib is strong in you. That is simply bullshit.

What it didn't allow for was a Hillary victory. If our board libs could market their sour grapes they could become rich (and probably conservatives).

As if the right hasn't spent the last 8 years crying about a black man being in the White House.
That literally never happened.
 
Democrats are really funny when they lose, huh? Suddenly all the rules need to be changed. I swear, they're like spoiled brats throwing obnoxious temper tantrums. I think they could all use a timeout in their Safe Spaces.
 
Its foolish of the Democrats to want to get rid of the Electoral College. I think the winning position is to enhance the requirement to become President Elect by making it to where you must both get the MAJORITY Of the EV (270+) and the PLURALITY of the popular vote. In this day and age of knowing who won the night of the election…it is crazy not to consider the popular choice of the people. It is the democratic thing to do (yes, I know we are a Republic).

And, before you start, no I’m not saying that because I thought the House would pick someone other than President Elect Trump to be POTUS… I’m saying that because I firmly feel it is the best system going forward.

Have you read anything on why the founders did not favor a popular vote?

There has been a historical writing floating around for a number of years on principles that were well known to our founders, which is:

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: "From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage." (Emphasis added) http://www.democrats.com/node/807

The above, in the reference shown, is attributed to Alexander Fraser Tytler, a Scottish born British lawyer and writer (1747-1813). However, there is some doubt about the original author, although the quotation has been often repeated by knowledgeable people. (See: The Truth About Tytler) Certainly, the principle was well known to our Founders, and to informed writers of that period.
 
Its foolish of the Democrats to want to get rid of the Electoral College. I think the winning position is to enhance the requirement to become President Elect by making it to where you must both get the MAJORITY Of the EV (270+) and the PLURALITY of the popular vote. In this day and age of knowing who won the night of the election…it is crazy not to consider the popular choice of the people. It is the democratic thing to do (yes, I know we are a Republic).

And, before you start, no I’m not saying that because I thought the House would pick someone other than President Elect Trump to be POTUS… I’m saying that because I firmly feel it is the best system going forward.

And how would you decide who the winner is when one wins the popular and the other wins the EC? Leave it to the House?
 
LMFAO
Just monday the big lefty rage was "Clinton is going to kick ass in the EC vote" she loses and the limp wrists want it changed
:bang3:
ATTENTION bedwetters : Almost 1/5 of the EC vote is tied up in ONE state. Dems get it EVERY time. Your candidate just fucking SUCKED. She is a liar, corrupt, goes against the leftist rhetoric of the last 3 decades and a cheater.
THINK
yes, I noticed lol! they are spreading this on FB

Sign the petition: Abolish the Electoral College

They are tearing themselves apart. Hillary wouldn't even have won the popular vote without help from the EC.

I'm telling you guys, they don't recognize defeat. It's not in their world...but it is now.
 
Democrats are really funny when they lose, huh? Suddenly all the rules need to be changed. I swear, they're like spoiled brats throwing obnoxious temper tantrums. I think they could all use a timeout in their Safe Spaces.

Yeah...all the right wing folks did 4 years ago is insist it was time for a civil war and splitting the union in 2.
 

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