"No more distraction. No more electric tanks, no more gender confusion, no more climate change worship."

[Foxfyre]

Good god, are the folks at Pop Mechanics idiots now?

• Switching to EV tanks reduces demand for liquid fuel? Really? That is like saying that taking the bus cuts down on having to walk there. It may reduce need for liquid fuel but simply adds new problems.
• And avoids risking the lives of truck-driving soldiers delivering fuel to the front lines? Really? Instead now, they must deliver charging stations, chargers and stored electricity. Six of one, half dozen of the other.

I never fault those who explore options which I think the Popular Mechanics article is doing. I agree that EV tanks is pretty much a none starter anytime in our near future, but then again many things we once believed couldn't be done have been done.

My philosophy is that we should always be exploring possibilities and options. Because of curiosity, creativity, imagination, willingness to explore what can be done, civilization moves forward in technology and capability. By the time sometime in the far distant future when we have run out of fossil fuels, I fully expect humankind to have figured out something far better and more efficient to use for fuel.

I see no reason to think that needs to happen now.

And I'm pretty darn sure it will be private initiative that makes it happen and not government mandates.

 

[Moonglow]

Which has absolutely nothing to do with the left's ridiculous mis-prioritization which was being called out, unless, of course, you can cite the part of the 2005 Energy Policy Act which calls for electric tanks, but I don't think its in there. prove me wrong.

The electric tank joke came about during Biden. Probably an Elon Musk thing.

 

[eohrnberger]

The electric tank joke came about during Biden. Probably an Elon Musk thing.

Again, a non-responsive and diversion post to the the left's ridiculous mis-prioritization being called out.

Maybe you can explain why the left is so worried about what comes out of the tank's tail pipe when the other 'pipe' is splitting out deleted uranium?

I'm all ears.

 

[Moonglow]

Again, a non-responsive and diversion post to the the left's ridiculous mis-prioritization being called out.

Maybe you can explain why the left is so worried about what comes out of the tank's tail pipe when the other 'pipe' is splitting out deleted uranium?

I'm all ears.

 

[toobfreak]

An electric 70 ton tank might have about a 20 mile range and that's pushing it

I'd be interested to read a study on a prototype. I mean, the problem with an EV car is that half the weight of the (heavier) car becomes the battery. Can you imagine the size and weight of a tank battery?

What do you do about battery fires?

There was an interesting study concerning NASA rockets. As it is, they are all 95% rocket engine just to carry a tiny payload.

There was a study done what it would take to get a rocket up to the speed of light or something like that and they estimated that it would take a rocket motor the size of the Earth.

Point being that an EV tank will not only weigh far more than a gasoline tank, and now the EV tank will need to expend a great deal of its energy just trying to lug that big massive battery around.

It would take one Y U G E battery to run a tank 20 miles and to hold up in combat.

Shit always happens at the worse possible times.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

AKA: Industrial war machine footing.

Moonglow, you aren't really required to run up your post count by recanting every stray impulse you experience, you know.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

I'd be interested to read a study on a prototype. I mean, the problem with an EV car is that half the weight of the (heavier) car becomes the battery. Can you imagine the size and weight of a tank battery?

What do you do about battery fires?

There was an interesting study concerning NASA rockets. As it is, they are all 95% rocket engine just to carry a tiny payload.

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There was a study done what it would take to get a rocket up to the speed of light or something like that and they estimated that it would take a rocket motor the size of the Earth.

Point being that an EV tank will only weigh far more than a gasoline tank, and now the EV tank will need to expend a great deal of its energy just trying to lug that big massive battery around.

It would take one Y U G E battery to run a tank 20 miles and to hold up in combat.

Shit always happens at the worse possible times.

I'm no expert but looking at ev cars and trying to duplicate that with tanks?
.
No, a fool's errand

 

[ReinyDays]

Tanks are masculine ... why do you keep using the word "it"? ... sheesh ... he would run out of juice in twenty miles ... he isn't effective ... he can't get wet in the rain ...

I'm gonna miss gender confusion ...

 

[toobfreak]

I'm no expert but looking at ev cars and trying to duplicate that with tanks?
No, a fool's errand

Neither am I, but I have some physics and EE background and while not a battery expert or an EV expert, I know enough to know that if a general came to me asking why we don't convert tanks and combat equipment to all electric DC batteries, I'd can his ass.

Suddenly, transporting tanks and combat gear around the world, each tank becomes about 25% bigger and maybe 50% heavier!

Remember all the crap Joe left behind in Afghanistan? Can you imagine if it were all electric?

Now imagine the cost of airlifting all of that extra-heavy gear around the world.

You can go into most any country and get a supply of gas and diesel. But now, we'd have to airlift chargers, charging stations, batteries and other stuff. Then get all that out to the front line. All gas and diesel require are an empty storage tank. Plus you need to generate the electricity to charge those batteries with--- probably with diesel or gas generators.

The ramifications of an electric military is so staggering that I cannot believe anyone has seriously proposed it. It would be far better to make tanks, etc. nuclear powered with tiny reactors except for other complications, not the least of which is what to do if a tank gets destroyed and the reactor starts leaking radioactive waste.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

They developed biodesiel for the navy and the cornholio gas for other vehicles.

Thanks for reminding me, the moronic wastes of money were not limited to
battery powered tanks.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The year 1913 changed all of that. We are a war mongering nation as the fiat currency allows that. The elites still have to convince the general population or produces something that galvanizes them. We use the responsibility of being the world's policeman to interfere with who we want. And it costs a lot. Woody Wilson promised not to go to war. We were at war a few years after the Federal Reserve Act and the Income Tax came to life. The owners of the Federal Reserve promised there would be no recessions and depressions with the fiat currency as compared to gold and silver backed dollars. The Federal Reserve juiced the economy in the 1920's and then tightened sharply to cause the Great Depression. And then they helped to keep it going until World War 2.

The owners of the Federal Reserve promised there would be no recessions and depressions

I don't think anyone promised no recessions and depressions.

And it's owned by the government.