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No Justice For Ashli??

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And shooting her wasn't only to keep her out, it was to keep the mob out.

You're seen it in every Clint Eastwood type movie, where a lone gunman is surrounded by a mob.

And the guy in front shouts "You can't shoot all of us"

And he answers, "I only have to shoot you."
Case in point, no one else tried to go through that window.
A murder will affect people.
More like self-preservation, they didn't want to be shot as well. however Ashli was not murdered.

Murder is the unlawful killing of another human being which is not the case here. When the police shoot and kill someone it is for all intents and purposes a legal killing unless and until otherwise adjudicated by a court of law.
 

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And shooting her wasn't only to keep her out, it was to keep the mob out.

You're seen it in every Clint Eastwood type movie, where a lone gunman is surrounded by a mob.

And the guy in front shouts "You can't shoot all of us"

And he answers, "I only have to shoot you."
Case in point, no one else tried to go through that window.
A murder will affect people.
More like self-preservation, they didn't want to be shot as well. however Ashli was not murdered.

Murder is the unlawful killing of another human being which is not the case here. When the police shoot and kill someone it is for all intents and purposes a legal killing unless and until otherwise adjudicated by a court of law.
The courts are doing what they are told to do. The election proved that. Justifying murder is a sign of how deep the rot goes in this country.
 

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An unarmed white woman murdered by a black cop
I would wager that you're more concerned about the fact that a white woman was shot and killed by a black man, not caring that he's a police officer.

As far as Ashli being unarmed

You are only allowed to use the deadly force of a defensive firearm to protect yourself or another innocent person from criminally inflicted death or great bodily harm. One element of that situation is that the opponent(s) must have the ability to kill or cripple you or other victims whom you have the right to protect. That ability is most obvious when it takes the form of a weapon: a gun, a knife or a blunt instrument of some kind wielded in a threatening manner.​

However, the ability to kill or cripple may take the form of some physical advantage the opponent has over you (or some physical disadvantage on your side of the conflict) that tilts the odds so greatly to his side that his continued assault is likely to kill or maim. Such a situation is known as a “disparity of force.” Disparity of force can take many forms.​
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Force Of Numbers
It is understood in law that when you are attacked by multiple assailants, the likelihood of them beating you to death or horribly injuring you is so great that their force of numbers can become the equivalent of a deadly weapon, justifying your use of a deadly weapon.​
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Another classic example is found in Case Four, the “Sweet Trials,” one of the most famous episodes in the career of the great defense lawyer Clarence Darrow. In segregated Detroit in 1925, a black physician named Ossian Sweet aroused the ire of white racists when he purchased a home in a white neighborhood. He was in that home with friends and family when a white mob surrounded the house. Shots were fired from inside, and one member of the mob was killed and another wounded. Murder was charged. The force of numbers element was one reason why all the defendants were ultimately exonerated.
Disparity of Force: Five Real-Life Self-Defense Cases
 

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And shooting her wasn't only to keep her out, it was to keep the mob out.

You're seen it in every Clint Eastwood type movie, where a lone gunman is surrounded by a mob.

And the guy in front shouts "You can't shoot all of us"

And he answers, "I only have to shoot you."
Case in point, no one else tried to go through that window.
A murder will affect people.
More like self-preservation, they didn't want to be shot as well. however Ashli was not murdered.

Murder is the unlawful killing of another human being which is not the case here. When the police shoot and kill someone it is for all intents and purposes a legal killing unless and until otherwise adjudicated by a court of law.
The courts are doing what they are told to do. The election proved that. Justifying murder is a sign of how deep the rot goes in this country.
This case hasn't gone to court and doesn't appear that it will, so how are you blaming the courts for something they have not been involved in?
 

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And shooting her wasn't only to keep her out, it was to keep the mob out.

You're seen it in every Clint Eastwood type movie, where a lone gunman is surrounded by a mob.

And the guy in front shouts "You can't shoot all of us"

And he answers, "I only have to shoot you."
Case in point, no one else tried to go through that window.
A murder will affect people.
More like self-preservation, they didn't want to be shot as well. however Ashli was not murdered.

Murder is the unlawful killing of another human being which is not the case here. When the police shoot and kill someone it is for all intents and purposes a legal killing unless and until otherwise adjudicated by a court of law.
The courts are doing what they are told to do. The election proved that. Justifying murder is a sign of how deep the rot goes in this country.
This case hasn't gone to court and doesn't appear that it will, so how are you blaming the courts for something they have not been involved in?
I did not blame them, I said they are corrupt. So is the DOJ and FBI. Plus a illegitimate administration full of criminals that rewards murderers.
 

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What do you have going there? Love affair with a crooked cop, Miss? Murder in blue is not acceptable.
You should try honing your critical thinking skills. Police officers have immunity when they shoot and kill someone - generally they can't be prosecuted and they can't be sued.

Qualified immunity is a type of legal immunity. “Qualified immunity balances two important interests—the need to hold public officials accountable when they exercise power irresponsibly and the need to shield officials from harassment, distraction, and liability when they perform their duties reasonably.” Pearson v. Callahan .​

If you start with the facts and quit trying to make this personal you'll get much further.

Killings by police in the line of duty have surged in Washington state over the past decade, according to a Seattle Times analysis.​
During that period, only one police officer has been criminally charged in state courts with the illegal use of deadly force on the job.​
In fact, that case is the only one to be brought in the three decades since Washington enacted the nation's most restrictive law on holding officers accountable for the unjustified use of deadly force.​

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The right decision! She was an insurrectionist, under orders from Trump, hell bent on overthrowing the government of the United States of America. She received exactly what she deserved by a patriotic officer defending our country.

I agree. All people who do not obey orders of the Reich should be shot in the back like this women. Way to go. :thup:
You do realize that the so-called "Reich" which was in power when Babbit was shot was under the control of Republicans, right? There was a Republican president in power with a Republican Senate majority.

And you morons wonder why people laugh at you.
You do realize that police are supposed to non political, not posting that they want to shoot Trump supporters, then doing just that. And you wonder why you’re getting laughed at.
Too bad he didn't empty his pistol into her stupid head.
An asshole who enjoys seeing unarmed women killed. You’re lower than snake shit.
Keep crying, you little bitch. lol
No, you’re the little bitch. A misogynist, a traitor, and an all around piece of crap. Denigrating a veteran. This cop will get his. Either in court or on a dark street somewhere.
 

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Babbit was unarmed and murdered in cold blood while protesting against her government. Celebrate all you want, but you will reap what you sow.
Ashli was attempting to breach a secure perimeter protecting our Congressmen. Once that perimeter was breached, there would be no way to protect members of Congress who were being threatened by an angry mob.

Ashli‘s relatives should sue the hell out of Donald J Trump
He is the one who filled her with lies, he is the one who filled her with rage, he is the one who called her to Washington and sent her to the Capitol.
What threat did she pose to anyone? She presented a physical threat to our Congressmen ? A verbal one? She was unarmed.
B.S. She should not have been there to begin with.
 

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Babbit was unarmed and murdered in cold blood while protesting against her government. Celebrate all you want, but you will reap what you sow.
Yea, most of us never had any previous examples of people being murdered for protest.....or even something as simple and registering people to vote.......
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Glad you conservatives are here to educate us about these sacrifices......
Spare me from your stupid attempt at satire. Viola Liuzzo's murder has nothing to do with Babbit. Babbit was executed in cold blood by her government in a building owned by taxpayers. I don't condone what she did but attempting to climb through a window does not warrant the death penalty.
No Babbitt was part of a violent insurrection against the government. He she made it through the window, she meant harm. Don't try making her a martyr.he died for believing a lie.
 

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I think it's the right decision. The officer was responding to a call, and things happen. Very similar to what we saw recently in Daunte Wright's case. Sadly, politics got involved and mob rule took place and the officer has been charged.
Wrong. This has no similarity to Daunte Wrights killing.
 

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If only she was black
She would have got shot before she could have entered the white house. Not too many blacks were stupid enough to fall for the stop the steal con.
 

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The right decision! She was an insurrectionist, under orders from Trump, hell bent on overthrowing the government of the United States of America. She received exactly what she deserved by a patriotic officer defending our country.

She was not an insurretionist.

May you or one your family members wind up the same way she did.

You are scum.
She was a traitor who got what she deserved.
Same with street punks that won't obey an officers commands....
Remember when officers commanded insurrectionists to not enter the Capitol building and they did anyway??

I guess they get whatever they deserve after that point huh
Actually the videos I have seen the rent a cops are waving them in...anyone that can watch Ashli's murder and say it was justified is an uncaring unthinking ass and not what I think of as a patriot in any way....for clowns like you its okay to burn cities for over a year and causing death and injury but one day of steam let off for Trump supporters and someone deserves to die?...is that how your feeble mind works?....

"anyone that can watch Ashli's murder and say it was justified"

Meanwhile......when conservatives have the will to justify the murder of an unarmed person whom they are predisposed to hate and dehumanize...They find a way...

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They find a fucking way...
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No one has said those incidents are justified...we say obey the cops and stay alive...fight them and you are partly responsible for the outcome....Aslhi wasn't fighting with anyone...the cop never warned her...he just opened up and killed her...and she was defenseless...so continue making an ass out of yourself or back off and leave this alone...you are dead wrong...Captol police were standing behind Ashli on the stairs when she was murdered...that moron rent a cop could have killed one of them...it was a bad shooting on many levels....
You're lying again. She wasn't just standing there and the cop didn't shoot her for no reason.

In reality, which eludes you, she was trying to break past a police barricade to get to lawmakers inside the House chamber.

That cop is a hero who saved lives.

The ridiculousness of this statement is beyond the pale.
We know you don't support this hero cop....you WANTED the rioters to get thru. I bet you posted on TheDonald.win forum before Jan 6th too. They were all about ways to kill Congresspeople.

Sure they were.

They didn't have guns.

The cops had guns.

That's a great plan to go kill someone.
How do you know they didn't have guns? Did you search them all?
That is the cops job or people working for the government. Would you use the same excuse if they murdered everyone?
You and others on the right are truly ridiculous, desperately trying – and failing – to ‘justify’ this terrorist attack on America’s democracy and making a ‘martyr’ of one of the treasonous terrorists involved in the attack.
 

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Babbit was unarmed and murdered in cold blood while protesting against her government. Celebrate all you want, but you will reap what you sow.
So rioting is now a legitimate form of protest?
It was in the summer and it is again in MN.
Protesting yes. Rioting and looting no.

That's rhe line.
Babbit was unarmed and murdered in cold blood while protesting against her government. Celebrate all you want, but you will reap what you sow.
So rioting is now a legitimate form of protest?
It was in the summer and it is again in MN.

No it wasn't. Only idiots think rioting is.
Are you serious?
Yes.

Rioting is not a valid form of protest.

Those who protested without engaging in violence, looting, arson and assault are protesters exercising their rights.

Those who engage in violence and assault and looting are committing a crime.

Why is that a hard concept for you?

When the problem being protested is more serious than the rioting and it has been ignored long enough, then rioting is the only means left and is valid.
Nonsense.

There was no ‘problem’ at all, ‘serious’ or otherwise.

Being angry that your candidate was voted out of office does not ‘justify’ a violent terrorist attack in a lawless effort to overturn the will of the people as expressed through a free, fair, and accurate election.
 

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I think it's the right decision. The officer was responding to a call, and things happen. Very similar to what we saw recently in Daunte Wright's case. Sadly, politics got involved and mob rule took place and the officer has been charged.
Wrong. This has no similarity to Daunte Wrights killing.
I agree, it's not as if she was a fugitive and attempting to resisit arrest, or that the officer made a mistake in terms of using the wrong weapon....but i get the impression that the officer was caught up in the heat of the moment due to the chaos in the riot and might not of intend to kill this lady
 
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When the police shoot and kill someone it is for all intents and purposes a legal killing unless and until otherwise adjudicated by a court of law.
What do you have going there? Love affair with a crooked cop, Miss? Murder in blue is not acceptable.

You mean it is not acceptable if the person who is killed is white, because all I see is your ilk defending Chauvin, Potter, etc.
 

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"Federal prosecutors will not charge a police officer who shot and killed a woman as she climbed through the broken part of a door during the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6. Authorities had considered for months whether criminal charges were appropriate for the Capitol Police officer who fatally shot Ashli Babbitt -- The Justice Department’s decision, though expected, officially closes out the investigation.

Prosecutors said they had reviewed video of the shooting, along with statements from the officer involved and other officers and witnesses, examined physical evidence from the scene and reviewed the autopsy results. “Based on that investigation, officials determined that there is insufficient evidence to support a criminal prosecution,” the department said in a statement."


This sets a very dangerous precedent....It basically gives officers a blank check to gun down people, unarmed people, good people.....and the officer face no consequences for his or her actions...Because of this decision, cops can essentially gun you down just because you didn't obey an order they gave -- they can gun you down then claim they feared for their safety while dehumanizing you as some violent person or a member of some angry mob... even tho that person is unarmed and was posing no threat.

Now to be fair, it's perfectly OK for certain types of unarmed people to be gunned down for not obeying cops or maybe using inappropriate language towards cops that could cause them to fear for their safety; but it's different when you are actually fighting against a tyrannical government who stole an election and your only recourse is to storm the Capitol to voice your grievances, cosplay in Neo-Nazi and Neo-Confederate apparel, joke about executing the VP and perhaps scare congress members into overturning the election for you and stuff...
She took part in an armed insurrection against the US.
She got justice.
No one in the Capitol had a gun but cops and Congressmen. Stop fucking lying.
How do you know that? Were you there?
Because even your lying media said so. Anyone armed did not enter the Capitol building. Why don't you show me something that said they did? I'll wait.
OH Lookee! There's a couple of hairs. Maybe we should try splitting them. Geez.
Cop was beaten to death with a pipe. That's ARMED!
She was shot in her armed attempt to take the capitol.

CHECK YOUR LAWS MORON

She was killed while committing a crime.
That makes each and every accessory a murderer.

So why aren't more of your fellow cheeto suckers in jail charged with first degree murder?
Name the cop. Got a picture? How about a link?
If I could I wouldn't.
For you and your fellow small minded trumpinistas? We all know what you'd do.
The guy's a hero.
He stood up to the mob and defended your country.

You would destroy him for it.

You are all truly beyond disgusting.
An unarmed woman threatening America? That would be the VP. Babbit was murdered. It was to intimidate and demoralize Trump supporters. I am sure it worked on some, but not too many.

She was one of 8,000 terrorists against 1,400 capital officers. 140 offisers were injured and 1 killed. How did they do it? Bad breath? Babbit was a criminal terrorist.

No police were killed.
One died later, but it was unrelated medical problem.
Only a few hundred protestors entered the capital, so it was about even.
Aslie Babbitt did nothing illegal because she harmed no one.

One officer was killed due to the rioting. Even if he dropped dead due to a heart attack, the perpetrators are legally responsible.
"Perpetrators"? Folks are only alleged perpetrators until proven guilty in a court of law. The same is true of "legally responsible". You folks are trying to defend lynch mob mentality and methods and so is the federal government. Maybe they will make the KKK a fed. department with your support.
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Babbit was unarmed and murdered in cold blood while protesting against her government. Celebrate all you want, but you will reap what you sow.
Ashli was attempting to breach a secure perimeter protecting our Congressmen. Once that perimeter was breached, there would be no way to protect members of Congress who were being threatened by an angry mob.

Ashli‘s relatives should sue the hell out of Donald J Trump
He is the one who filled her with lies, he is the one who filled her with rage, he is the one who called her to Washington and sent her to the Capitol.
What threat did she pose to anyone? She presented a physical threat to our Congressmen ? A verbal one? She was unarmed.
B.S. She should not have been there to begin with.

Trump asked her to be there to stop Congress from certifying Biden
 

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