No health care for illegals

[LilOlLady]

NO HEALTH CARE FOR ILLEGALS

Obama’s healthcare plan do not cover illegal aliens. Whoop de do. Than does that mean they will continue to flood our emergency rooms? And give medical care to gangs and major illness of illegals? Then hospitals, doctors and labs will still charge us more to make up for their loss.
Immigration reform, amnesty, will add million to Obama’s healthcare plan. We still pay for illegal aliens’ healthcare and amnesty.
Hospitals have expanded to serve more patients, Renown and HAWC Clinic in Reno with another Renown in the process, will make more money and cost us more.
With cheap illegal labor, everything; banks and lenders, housing, business and all levels of government became big business and need to downsize to the time when our economy was thriving and we did not have 20 million illegal aliens in our system.
Americans have to downsize also. They bought bigger houses, bigger cars and charged more and bought gadgets they did not need for themselves and their children and now they are all paying the price. We all are.
We need to downsize immigrations and not let immigrants flood the system.

 

[Big Black Dog]

I agree with you. I think the only thing our government should give illegal aliens is a very swift and free trip back to the boarder and a statement to the effect that if they return, and are caught again, their next free trip will be to a prison. If we have to pay for their care, let's do it in prison so we know what they're up too and they can't reproduce like cockroaches...

 

[PoliticalChic]

NO HEALTH CARE FOR ILLEGALS

Obama’s healthcare plan do not cover illegal aliens. Whoop de do. Than does that mean they will continue to flood our emergency rooms? And give medical care to gangs and major illness of illegals? Then hospitals, doctors and labs will still charge us more to make up for their loss.
Immigration reform, amnesty, will add million to Obama’s healthcare plan. We still pay for illegal aliens’ healthcare and amnesty.
Hospitals have expanded to serve more patients, Renown and HAWC Clinic in Reno with another Renown in the process, will make more money and cost us more.
With cheap illegal labor, everything; banks and lenders, housing, business and all levels of government became big business and need to downsize to the time when our economy was thriving and we did not have 20 million illegal aliens in our system.
Americans have to downsize also. They bought bigger houses, bigger cars and charged more and bought gadgets they did not need for themselves and their children and now they are all paying the price. We all are.
We need to downsize immigrations and not let immigrants flood the system.

Since this is a major problem that the Democrat Healthcare Bill does not solve, perhaps it is one of the reasons the CBO says it will not save money:
"Here's a blow to President Obama and Democrats pressing health care reform.

One of the main arguments made by the President and others for investing in health reform now is that it will save the federal government money in the long run by containing costs.

Turns out that may not be the case, according to Doug Elmendorf, director of the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.

Answering questions from Democrat Kent Conrad of North Dakota at a hearing of the Senate Budget Committee today, Elmendorf said CBO does not see health care cost savings in either of the partisan Democratic bills currently in Congress."
CBO Sees No Net Federal Cost Savings in Dem Health Plans - The Note

If this is the case, it behooves supporters to ask why the President is so dead-set on the program/

Does not data inform policy, or is there a larger motivation here, as in European socialism?

 

[LaLinda75]

Are you people so naive as to think that a doctor, clinic, ER will turn away ANYBODY who comes in asking for medical care???? Nah! Remember that these people took the Hippocratic Oath.

...........The oath reads as follows: “I swear by Apollo Physician and Asclepios and Hygieia and Panacea and all the gods and goddesses, making them my witnesses, that I will fulfill according to my ability and judgement this oath and this covenant: To hold him who has taught me this art as equal to my parents and to live my life in partnership with him, and if he is in need of money to give him a share of mine, and to regard his offspring as equal to my brothers in male lineage and to teach them this art - if they desire to learn it - without fee and covenant; to give a share of preceptss and oral instruction and all the other learning to my sons and to the sons of him who has instructed me and to pupils who have signed the covenant and have taken an oath according to the medical law, but no one else. I will apply dietetic measures for the benefit of the sick according to my ability and judgement; I will keep them from harm and injustice. I will neither give a deadly drug to anybody who asked for it, nor will I make a suggestion to this effect. Similarly I will not give to a woman an abortive remedy. In purity and holiness I will guard my life and my art etc, etc.”

The solution is to stop illegal entry - period!!!

 

[Wolfmoon]

PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided 2 ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise


Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from indiv. taxes. (Americans will pay)

Here's the full Health Care bill that sits in the House.
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.pdf

 

[WillowTree]

PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided 2 ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise


Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from indiv. taxes. (Americans will pay)

Here's the full Health Care bill that sits in the House.
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.pdf

yep,, and yesterday Cavuto reported that the congresscritters voted not to tax the illegals 2.5% of their wasges for not signing up they way americans will be taxed.. yet the illegals will still clog the emergency rooms and be cared for just the same,, the democwats know all about the river called de nile

 

[LilOlLady]

Are you people so naive as to think that a doctor, clinic, ER will turn away ANYBODY who comes in asking for medical care???? Nah! Remember that these people took the Hippocratic Oath.

They are being turned away before they get passed the emergency room check-in. I have been turned away because the hospital did not take my medcaid.What they do is make them wait so long that they leave without treatment unless it is a immediately emergency.

 

[LaLinda75]

'They are being turned away before they get passed the emergency room check-in. I have been turned away because the hospital did not take my medcaid. What they do is make them wait so long that they leave without treatment unless it is a immediately emergency.'

I've been to the ER and trust me, they are NOT turned away! They will wait as long as the triage makes them wait. IT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO TURN ANYBODY AWAY WHO IS LOOKING FOR MEDICAL TREATMENT. And you can thank the feds for that one. Again - the ONLY solution to the ILLEGAL problem is to stop them at the BORDER!! Using whatever means are necessary.