NJ Man's family owned farm for 175 years, city says no more! City to convert to affordable housing...

[1srelluc]

And because of Kelo it was A-OK. overturn Kelo and the problem goes away.

Don't blame people for using the law, blame the law.

Thing is it's not "people" but mindless local/state .govs.

 

[martybegan]

Roberts was the driver of the decision.

Yeah, might be wishful thinking, but I know Thomas has it in his sights.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I think Emperor Hadrian started it

 

[rightwinger]

And because of Kelo it was A-OK. overturn Kelo and the problem goes away.

Don't blame people for using the law, blame the law.

What they do is declare an area “blighted” even though homeowners are proud of their homes

Luxury Condos would look better here

 

[martybegan]

What they do is declare an area “blighted” even though homeowners are proud of their homes

Luxury Condos would look better here

All the more reason to overturn Kelo.

Eminent domain is for public works only, and is a last resort.

 

[White 6]

Without a doubt Keto and Citizens United were the poorest decisions since RvW.

At least many states amended their state constitutions to prevent Keto.

Keto is one of those decisions, I would have to live with, rather than agree with.

 

[White 6]

Without ED we wouldnt have any of that to begin with. How are you going to freely travel without public space? You gonna get permission from every land owner till you get to walmart? Or visit the mountains or a beach for a vacation?
Im against ED for many things, but for some things we have to have it.

Sometimes it is misused and abused.

 

[TNHarley]

Sometimes it is misused and abused.

I agree. But if we didnt have it, we wouldnt have shit. We would be hoping the border to Mexico.

 

[Polishprince]

Apparently the town needs to build more Projects, it just isn't sketchy enough for the liberal city fathers. They want to catch up to Camden.

 

[rightwinger]

Apparently the town needs to build more Projects, it just isn't sketchy enough for the liberal city fathers. They want to catch up to Camden.

Actually, it is a Jersey wide problem

Mt Laurel decision mandates each community set aside low income housing. Developed towns struggle to find available open land and a farm is a tempting location

 

[Polishprince]

Actually, it is a Jersey wide problem

Mt Laurel decision mandates each community set aside low income housing. Developed towns struggle to find available open land and a farm is a tempting location

Why not build new slums in Newark or Elizabeth instead?

 

[rightwinger]

Why not build new slums in Newark or Elizabeth instead?

Because by law, each community must have a plan for low cost housing

 

[Polishprince]

Because by law, each community must have a plan for low cost housing

That's a stupid law if I might say so myself.

If someone is wealthy, they don't want to move next to the ghetto.

 

[Hellbilly]

‘Once it’s gone, it’s gone forever.’ Family and neighbors make last plea to save N.J. farm from seizure

The Henry family’s 175-year-old farm is scheduled to be seized through eminent domain to build affordable housing for a New Jersey town.

www.nj.com

The Henry brothers received a letter notifying them that their property was being eyed for affordable housing.

If the family doesn’t agree to sell the farm, the land could be taken through the eminent domain process that allows the government to take private property. Land can be seized even when the owner doesn’t want to sell if the site will be used for a public purpose. The owner is paid a market price for the property.

The SCOTUS Kelo decision was disgusting.....It allows eminent domain abuse like this.

Kinda sounds like something kings would do. Will dem protestors be showing up in support of the land owner?

My bet is local politicians are eyeing it more for resale to their developer buddies as it makes no sense to put "affordable housing" in a warehouse district.

The government taking peoples land away?

That must really suck.

 

[BothWings]

Tocks Island Dam controversy - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Quite a few decades ago now, the feds took an entire town in NJ by eminent domain because they supposedly wanted to build a dam and create a reservoir. The reservoir was never built. Eventually it was turned into a National Recreation Area.

BUT...this is nothing new in that area. Just a few miles north along the Wallkill River which runs south to north (one of about 10 rivers in the world which does, including the Nile), the government has been buying up land along the Wallkill in massive swaths. It's mostly all farmland or former farmland. I took a kayak trip down the Wallkill with some friends back around '06...and our "leader" pointed that out to me. As you're floating along in your kayak you'll see MANY signs on the banks saying "No Trespassing - Property of United States Government". At one point we went under a bridge for a country road which spanned the river. Stopped right in the middle of the bridge was an all-black suburban with tinted windows....just waiting and watching. We were like...WTF! Anyway, this land just sits there, untouched a long the banks of the Wallkill with a bunch of government signs on it and mysterious unmarked vehicles patrolling it. So what do they need it for??

This area is also overlooked by the Kittatinny Mtn range, which slowly becomes the Shawangunk Mtn range as it runs NE into NY. I grew up right at the foot of the "Gunks" in the 80's. My town was the focus of a decades-long UFO flap, documented by hundreds of people in all sectors of American life,which finally seemed to wane in the early 2000's right after Bush Jr was INAUGERATED. I've seen some things there myself which I won't go into here. Personally I don't really believe that ET is visiting us and moving into secret bases beneath our mountain ranges. I think it's not just possible but probable that our own government IS, however. And I think that's a good reason why they may want all this land. I think they're assembling it like a patchwork quilt of former private land. And I think the reason why they're not developing it, and and also the reason why the Ticks Dam reservoir was never built, is because it was never intended to be. They just wanted access to the land. Eventually it was permissible to build a park there because that does not interfere with things going on half a mile underground, does it? And if the government suddenly deems necessary to access their facilities through the park they'll just close it down and start using it because they can.

Here's another similar thing which happened right in my hometown in the 1980s when the UFO thing was at its peak: The government wanted to build a circular atom smasher that would be something like 2 miles wide right underneath our town. This was in the courts for a while as the government kept trying to gain access, and people kept petitioning them away. Eventually the government gave up and supposedly moved the project to Texas and I don't think it was built there either. Again, I don't think it was ever intended to be. I think it was all part of the plan to gain access underground. There were several military bases in the area including Stewart Air Force Base. Not long after the big hullabaloo about the atom smasher passed, the UFO activity in the area increased, and some people even reported hearing sounds coming from their fields at night possibly from underground. So it almost sounds to me like in lieu of being able to get direct subterranean access, the government broke ground in one of their own bases or facilities and started drilling from there. In addition to aerial phenomena, other strange things have also been seen. Several dozen household pets disappeared in a neighboring town. Several people including a friend of mine said they saw a headless cat walking around with some kind of electronic thing on its neck instead of the head. One person claimed she saw it in an interview in the regional newspaper 12 years after my friend said he saw it. All I can figure is they have a secret laboratory somewhere where they are experimenting with creating drones out of living things. (A former boss and I saw dead monkey at the side of a road, and other people have have seen out-of-place creatures too. Who knows what the hell else they do down there in their labs, but I've kind of concluded it's far from normal. This business with them taking land and never using it for the purpose that was supposedly intended for is becoming a thing. I don't think that's just because of mismanagement or changes of plans either.

 

[rightwinger]

That's a stupid law if I might say so myself.

If someone is wealthy, they don't want to move next to the ghetto.

It is stupid but it allows wealthy communities to buy their way out

 

[1srelluc]

Quite a few decades ago now, the feds took an entire town in NJ by eminent domain because they supposedly wanted to build a dam and create a reservoir. The reservoir was never built.

I suspect that is what is going on with this land grab.....The town is only required to find a patch of land big enough for "affordable housing", not to actually build it.

It's another BS requirement that The Halfrican but on localities through HUD.....It should be done away with....The ********** wanted the country to to be a shithole.

 

[g5000]

‘Once it’s gone, it’s gone forever.’ Family and neighbors make last plea to save N.J. farm from seizure

The Henry family’s 175-year-old farm is scheduled to be seized through eminent domain to build affordable housing for a New Jersey town.

www.nj.com

The Henry brothers received a letter notifying them that their property was being eyed for affordable housing.

If the family doesn’t agree to sell the farm, the land could be taken through the eminent domain process that allows the government to take private property. Land can be seized even when the owner doesn’t want to sell if the site will be used for a public purpose. The owner is paid a market price for the property.

The SCOTUS Kelo decision was disgusting.....It allows eminent domain abuse like this.

Kinda sounds like something kings would do. Will dem protestors be showing up in support of the land owner?

My bet is local politicians are eyeing it more for resale to their developer buddies as it makes no sense to put "affordable housing" in a warehouse district.

Hmmm. This sounds famiilar.

Donald Trump really did try to take an elderly widow’s house for a limousine parking lot

Trump attempted to use eminent domain to kick an elderly woman out of her house so he could build a limousine parking lot.

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“Eminent domain is an absolute necessity for a country,” he said. “Without it, you wouldn’t have roads, you wouldn’t have hospitals, you wouldn’t have anything.”

Or limousine parking lots.

1srelluc, OBAMA MADE HIM DO IT!