NFL Rookie Of The Year? RGIII ? Russell Wilson ? Andrew Luck ? You Pick!

[HUGGY]

The race for NFL Rookie of the year is getting interesting

Two first rounders vs the lowly 3rd rounder.

Right now RGIII has like 18 TDs

Russell Wilson 20 TDs

Andrew Luck 18 TDs

OK I'm a homer and ya..Wilson is like 5' 10"

Does Wilson stand a chance against these two well publicised rookie QBs?

 

[HUGGY]

OK let's look a little deeper into some meaningful stats going into week 15. TURNOVERS


Andrew Luck 18 TD's 18 Ints 4 Fumbles 22 turnovers

RGIII 18 TD's 4 ints 9 fumbles 13 turnovers

Russell Wilson 20 TD's 9 ints 2 fumbles 11 turnovers


Also Wilson has 6 game winning scoring drives. The others ...not so much.

 

[HUGGY]

RGIII Update Courtesy The Sporting News:

Robert Griffin III injury update: RG3 looks gimpy on practice throws
Published 22 hours and 20 minutes ago
Associated Press ASHBURN, Va.—Robert Griffin III high-stepped and moved laterally with barely a hitch as he stretched with his Washington Redskins teammates, then looked a little gimpy during throwing drills during the first part of practice.

The league's top-rated passer was back on the field Wednesday, three days after spraining his right knee during an overtime win over the Baltimore Ravens.

Griffin has a mild sprain of the lateral collateral ligament, the result of a hit by defensive tackle Haloti Ngata at the end of a 13-yard scramble late in regulation of the 31-28 victory.

If Griffin is unable to play Sunday against Cleveland, fellow rookie Kirk Cousins will get the call for the Redskins (7-6). Washington has won four straight and sits one game behind the first-place New York Giants in the NFC East.



If Griffen has lost his mobility... he is through as Rookie of the year. The NFL is all about "what have you done for me lately?"

Take away his ability to get free from the constraints of the pocket and he is red meat. His league leading passer efficiency goes bye bye. The little chump passes like the bubble screen will get blown up.

Knee injuries are serious. Playing him now is a bad move for the Redskins. One bad hit and his career could be over.

 

[HUGGY]

Andrew Luck faces the toughest test inthe last three games.

Colts at 9 and 4 play the 11 and 2 Houston Texans twice. Sandwiched inbetween in a game with Kansas City at Arrowhead Stadium.. Not a lock by any stretch. When the Seahawks were in the AFC West we ALLWAYS had trouble playing in Arrowhead.

True the Cheeps are horrible this year with a 2 and 11 record ... 1 and 6 at home.

I can see the Colts easily going 10 and 6 for the season.

It wouldn't be the second coming as Luck was advertised.

 

[rightwinger]

Lets see who gets his team to the playoffs

I think RGIII is carrying his team more than the other two

 

[HUGGY]

Lets see who gets his team to the playoffs

I think RGIII is carrying his team more than the other two

I agree. Wilson barely played more than a half in Seattle's crushing of the Cards 58-0 last Sunday.

Now with a serious knee injury Washington has to be very carefull what they let RGII attempt.

RGIII does have the easiest run out schedule with The Browns, Eagles, and Dallas.

 

[Article 15]

RG3 is your rookie of the year

 

[HUGGY]

RG3 is your rookie of the year

If he can't tear it up with a gimp knee he loses what makes him elite. Obviously I'm a Wilson homer but it would be tough to lose to Luck or Wilson because of a late season injury. He in the passing efficiency leader but if he is stuck in the pocket without true mobility he will have a crummy last three games. I smell sacks and ints and fumbles..which by the way he already has 9.

 

[Montrovant]

Stupid quarterback-centered awards!

No mention of Trent Richardson? Doug Martin? Alfred Morris?

And that's just for offensive rookie of the year!

Of course a qb is going to win, I just find it annoying how quickly people dismiss any other position.

 

[rightwinger]

Stupid quarterback-centered awards!

No mention of Trent Richardson? Doug Martin? Alfred Morris?

And that's just for offensive rookie of the year!

Of course a qb is going to win, I just find it annoying how quickly people dismiss any other position.

True

But this is the year of the Rookie QBs

 

[HUGGY]

Stupid quarterback-centered awards!

No mention of Trent Richardson? Doug Martin? Alfred Morris?

And that's just for offensive rookie of the year!

Of course a qb is going to win, I just find it annoying how quickly people dismiss any other position.

There are a pile of excellent rookies in this years crop no doubt. Thing is as always has been the QB handles the ball on every offensive snap. If the QB is great then the team has a chance to succeed...if he is not...no matter how great the other players the team sucks and nothing much else matters.

This year there are three truly outstanding rookie QB's. THAT also adds to the narrative for a popular and compelling story line.

 

[HUGGY]

OK let's look a little deeper into some meaningful stats going into week 15. TURNOVERS


Andrew Luck 18 TD's 18 Ints 4 Fumbles 22 turnovers

RGIII 18 TD's 4 ints 9 fumbles 13 turnovers

Russell Wilson 20 TD's 9 ints 2 fumbles 11 turnovers


Also Wilson has 6 game winning scoring drives. The others ...not so much.

I was wrong about the number of game winning drive by Luck... He is tied at 6 with Wilson.

4 fourth quarter comebacks, 6 game-winning drivesAge is Years-Days · Glossary · SHARESHARE [X] · Embed · CSV · PRE · LINK · ?
Passing Rushing
Rk Year G# Date Age Tm Opp Result Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Y/A AY/A Att Yds Y/A TD Notes
1 2012 2 2012-09-16 23-004 IND MIN W 23-20 20 31 64.5% 224 2 0 107.5 7.23 8.52 4 21 5.25 0 GWD
2 2012 4 2012-10-07 23-025 IND GNB W 30-27 31 55 56.4% 362 2 1 81.0 6.58 6.49 6 24 4.00 1 4QC / GWD
3 2012 7 2012-10-28 23-046 IND @ TEN W 19-13 26 38 68.4% 297 1 1 89.5 7.82 7.16 6 28 4.67 0 4QC / GWD
4 2012 8 2012-11-04 23-053 IND MIA W 23-20 30 48 62.5% 433 2 0 105.6 9.02 9.85 1 5 5.00 0 GWD
5 2012 12 2012-12-02 23-081 IND @ DET W 35-33 24 54 44.4% 391 4 3 70.8 7.24 6.22 3 33 11.00 0 4QC / GWD
6 2012 13 2012-12-09 23-088 IND TEN W 27-23 16 34 47.1% 196 1 2 50.6 5.76 3.71 5 7 1.40 0 4QC / GWD

 

[Montrovant]

Depending on how the end of the season goes, between the 3 I would go with RGIII. I think it's very close between him and Luck. Luck has a 2 win team primed to make the playoffs and still with a chance to win the division, despite the Texans being tied for the best record in football. RGIII has an amazing passer rating, better mobility than the other two, and has just impressed me a bit more when I've watched him.

Wilson, while he's been great for the Hawks and improving steadily as the year has gone on, I think just has a better team around him which gives him an easier road to success. Barring suspensions of their CB's, Seattle has one of the best defenses in the league. The running game with Lynch being the same Skittles-munching beast from last year is strong. With Pierre Garcon healthy again for the Skins, Wilson probably has the weakest receiving corp, but he is still able to lean on other aspects of the team more than Luck or RGIII, who both have teams with weak defenses (and the Colts don't run all that well, either).

As a Niner fan, I just hope that Kaepernick can grow into the QB position as well as any of these three. It really is a great year for rookie QB's and offensive rookies in general.

 

[HUGGY]

Depending on how the end of the season goes, between the 3 I would go with RGIII. I think it's very close between him and Luck. Luck has a 2 win team primed to make the playoffs and still with a chance to win the division, despite the Texans being tied for the best record in football. RGIII has an amazing passer rating, better mobility than the other two, and has just impressed me a bit more when I've watched him.

Wilson, while he's been great for the Hawks and improving steadily as the year has gone on, I think just has a better team around him which gives him an easier road to success. Barring suspensions of their CB's, Seattle has one of the best defenses in the league. The running game with Lynch being the same Skittles-munching beast from last year is strong. With Pierre Garcon healthy again for the Skins, Wilson probably has the weakest receiving corp, but he is still able to lean on other aspects of the team more than Luck or RGIII, who both have teams with weak defenses (and the Colts don't run all that well, either).

As a Niner fan, I just hope that Kaepernick can grow into the QB position as well as any of these three. It really is a great year for rookie QB's and offensive rookies in general.

Interesting that 22 turnovers by Luck.. 18 ints and 4 fumbles doesn't concern you.

 

[rightwinger]

Overall, it's been a great year for QBs

Brady and Peyton Manning lighting it up like they were in their prime

Luck, RG3, Wilson having MVP calibre seasons

 

[Montrovant]

Depending on how the end of the season goes, between the 3 I would go with RGIII. I think it's very close between him and Luck. Luck has a 2 win team primed to make the playoffs and still with a chance to win the division, despite the Texans being tied for the best record in football. RGIII has an amazing passer rating, better mobility than the other two, and has just impressed me a bit more when I've watched him.

Wilson, while he's been great for the Hawks and improving steadily as the year has gone on, I think just has a better team around him which gives him an easier road to success. Barring suspensions of their CB's, Seattle has one of the best defenses in the league. The running game with Lynch being the same Skittles-munching beast from last year is strong. With Pierre Garcon healthy again for the Skins, Wilson probably has the weakest receiving corp, but he is still able to lean on other aspects of the team more than Luck or RGIII, who both have teams with weak defenses (and the Colts don't run all that well, either).

As a Niner fan, I just hope that Kaepernick can grow into the QB position as well as any of these three. It really is a great year for rookie QB's and offensive rookies in general.

Interesting that 22 turnovers by Luck.. 18 ints and 4 fumbles doesn't concern you.

When he's had the offense thrown on his shoulders in his rookie season, throwing for over 40 attempts a game I believe, and has led a team that won 2 games the previous season to 9+ wins, no, I wouldn't be overly concerned with those turnovers. It's not optimal, but not entirely unexpected considering the circumstances.

 

[HUGGY]

I've been astonished that some of the national stories compare Wilson to Tom brady... but they use this years stats for Brady completely ignoring that Wilson is a rookie. The only reasonable measure would be Brady's SECOND year because he wasn't good enough to start more than one game.

Year Team G Att Comp Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD TD% Int Int% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck SckY Rate
2012 New England Patriots 13 495 319 64.4 38.1 3,833 7.7 294.8 29 5.9 4 0.8 83T 43 6 20 135 104.2

2011 New England Patriots 16 611 401 65.6 38.2 5,235 8.6 327.2 39 6.4 12 2.0 99T 71 14 32 173 105.6

2010 New England Patriots 16 492 324 65.9 30.8 3,900 7.9 243.8 36 7.3 4 0.8 79T 53 9 25 175 111.0

2009 New England Patriots 16 565 371 65.7 35.3 4,398 7.8 274.9 28 5.0 13 2.3 81T 43 12 16 86 96.2

2008 New England Patriots 1 11 7 63.6 11.0 76 6.9 76.0 0 0.0 0 0.0 26 1 0 0 0 83.9

2007 New England Patriots 16 578 398 68.9 36.1 4,806 8.3 300.4 50 8.7 8 1.4 69T 56 15 21 128 117.2

2006 New England Patriots 16 516 319 61.8 32.2 3,529 6.8 220.6 24 4.7 12 2.3 62T 46 8 26 175 87.9

2005 New England Patriots 16 530 334 63.0 33.1 4,110 7.8 256.9 26 4.9 14 2.6 71 59 9 26 188 92.3

2004 New England Patriots 16 474 288 60.8 29.6 3,692 7.8 230.8 28 5.9 14 3.0 50 52 10 26 162 92.6

2003 New England Patriots 16 527 317 60.2 32.9 3,620 6.9 226.2 23 4.4 12 2.3 82T 44 8 32 219 85.9

2002 New England Patriots 16 601 373 62.1 37.6 3,764 6.3 235.2 28 4.7 14 2.3 49T 37 3 31 190 85.7

2001 New England Patriots 15 413 264 63.9 27.5 2,843 6.9 189.5 18 4.4 12 2.9 91T 32 6 41 216 86.5

2000 New England Patriots 1 3 1 33.3 3.0 6 2.0 6.0 0 0.0 0 0.0 6 0 0 0 0 42.4

TOTAL 174 5,816 3,716 63.9 33.4 43,812 7.5 251.8 329 5.7 119 2.0 99 537 100 296 1,847 97.0

Note that Wilson is on track to do better statistically than Brady in his SECOND year.

 

[Article 15]

Stupid quarterback-centered awards!

No mention of Trent Richardson? Doug Martin? Alfred Morris?

And that's just for offensive rookie of the year!

Of course a qb is going to win, I just find it annoying how quickly people dismiss any other position.

They aren't being discounted but when you have three rookies playing at such a high level at the hardest position in football (and arguably in all of sports) what the RBs are doing just doesn't compare.

 

[Article 15]

Overall, it's been a great year for QBs

Brady and Peyton Manning lighting it up like they were in their prime

Luck, RG3, Wilson having MVP calibre seasons

No, they aren't. Damned good seasons, yes, but I'm not willing to step into the "MVP caliber" zone.

 

[Article 15]

I've been astonished that some of the national stories compare Wilson to Tom brady... but they use this years stats for Brady completely ignoring that Wilson is a rookie. The only reasonable measure would be Brady's SECOND year because he wasn't good enough to start more than one game.

Year Team G Att Comp Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD TD% Int Int% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck SckY Rate
2012 New England Patriots 13 495 319 64.4 38.1 3,833 7.7 294.8 29 5.9 4 0.8 83T 43 6 20 135 104.2

2011 New England Patriots 16 611 401 65.6 38.2 5,235 8.6 327.2 39 6.4 12 2.0 99T 71 14 32 173 105.6

2010 New England Patriots 16 492 324 65.9 30.8 3,900 7.9 243.8 36 7.3 4 0.8 79T 53 9 25 175 111.0

2009 New England Patriots 16 565 371 65.7 35.3 4,398 7.8 274.9 28 5.0 13 2.3 81T 43 12 16 86 96.2

2008 New England Patriots 1 11 7 63.6 11.0 76 6.9 76.0 0 0.0 0 0.0 26 1 0 0 0 83.9

2007 New England Patriots 16 578 398 68.9 36.1 4,806 8.3 300.4 50 8.7 8 1.4 69T 56 15 21 128 117.2

2006 New England Patriots 16 516 319 61.8 32.2 3,529 6.8 220.6 24 4.7 12 2.3 62T 46 8 26 175 87.9

2005 New England Patriots 16 530 334 63.0 33.1 4,110 7.8 256.9 26 4.9 14 2.6 71 59 9 26 188 92.3

2004 New England Patriots 16 474 288 60.8 29.6 3,692 7.8 230.8 28 5.9 14 3.0 50 52 10 26 162 92.6

2003 New England Patriots 16 527 317 60.2 32.9 3,620 6.9 226.2 23 4.4 12 2.3 82T 44 8 32 219 85.9

2002 New England Patriots 16 601 373 62.1 37.6 3,764 6.3 235.2 28 4.7 14 2.3 49T 37 3 31 190 85.7

2001 New England Patriots 15 413 264 63.9 27.5 2,843 6.9 189.5 18 4.4 12 2.9 91T 32 6 41 216 86.5

2000 New England Patriots 1 3 1 33.3 3.0 6 2.0 6.0 0 0.0 0 0.0 6 0 0 0 0 42.4

TOTAL 174 5,816 3,716 63.9 33.4 43,812 7.5 251.8 329 5.7 119 2.0 99 537 100 296 1,847 97.0

Note that Wilson is on track to do better statistically than Brady in his SECOND year.

Brady and Wilson are completely different QB's.

And 2001 was basically Tom's first year.

Bill didn't take the reigns off him until some point in the 2002 season.