NFL Owners Considering Rule Change Requiring Players to Stand for National Anthem

[RASTAMEN]

NFL, players have one easy answer for how to end protests on their own terms

NFL, players have one easy answer for how to end protests on their own terms

 

[WheelieAddict]

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NFL owners are considering changing league rules to make it mandatory that players stand for the national anthem, a league spokesman said Tuesday.

The owners will discuss the possibility of changing the rule in a meeting next week. The league’s current policy asks that players players “stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand and refrain from talking” during the playing of the Star-Spangled Banner, but only allows for potential discipline from teams toward players failing to be on the field at that time.

NFL owners consider requiring players to stand for anthem

It's BEEN an NFL rule for a couple decades.. Did you miss that part??

Nope, it hasn't. Not even a rule now. Fatter o' mact until 2009 players were still in the locker room during the anthem. That year, somebody thought it would be "marketable" to have them out on the field standing. Because at base it never was about patriotism; it was about "what will sell" to the unwashed.

Hogwash...

Does the NFL Require Players to Stand for the National Anthem?

Here's what the game operations manual says regarding the national anthem, according to an NFL spokesperson:

The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.

During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.


Like I said -- it's BEEN in the manual for game operations for quite some time. And VERY SPECIFIC. Like the part about "holding helmets in the left hand".. It IS a statement of what is "marketable". Because the NFL is a ******* business.

And as a business it is left to the NFL's discretion to enforce current rules or not or leave them to interpretation. Our president should not be directing them like a dictator.

 

[flacaltenn]

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NFL owners are considering changing league rules to make it mandatory that players stand for the national anthem, a league spokesman said Tuesday.

The owners will discuss the possibility of changing the rule in a meeting next week. The league’s current policy asks that players players “stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand and refrain from talking” during the playing of the Star-Spangled Banner, but only allows for potential discipline from teams toward players failing to be on the field at that time.

NFL owners consider requiring players to stand for anthem

It's BEEN an NFL rule for a couple decades.. Did you miss that part??

Nope, it hasn't. Not even a rule now. Fatter o' mact until 2009 players were still in the locker room during the anthem. That year, somebody thought it would be "marketable" to have them out on the field standing. Because at base it never was about patriotism; it was about "what will sell" to the unwashed.

Hogwash...

Does the NFL Require Players to Stand for the National Anthem?

Here's what the game operations manual says regarding the national anthem, according to an NFL spokesperson:

The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.

During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.


Like I said -- it's BEEN in the manual for game operations for quite some time. And VERY SPECIFIC. Like the part about "holding helmets in the left hand".. It IS a statement of what is "marketable". Because the NFL is a ******* business.

And as a business it is left to the NFL's discretion to enforce current rules or not or leave them to interpretation. Our president should not be directing them like a dictator.

When it comes to the ONE UNIFYING affirmation to country -- the one that only takes a couple minutes to perform -- it's worth weighing on politically. OR -- it becomes a target for those that seek DIVISION and POLARIZATION.. Whoever "they" are...

 

[Pogo]

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NFL owners are considering changing league rules to make it mandatory that players stand for the national anthem, a league spokesman said Tuesday.

The owners will discuss the possibility of changing the rule in a meeting next week. The league’s current policy asks that players players “stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand and refrain from talking” during the playing of the Star-Spangled Banner, but only allows for potential discipline from teams toward players failing to be on the field at that time.

NFL owners consider requiring players to stand for anthem

It's BEEN an NFL rule for a couple decades.. Did you miss that part??

Nope, it hasn't. Not even a rule now. Fatter o' mact until 2009 players were still in the locker room during the anthem. That year, somebody thought it would be "marketable" to have them out on the field standing. Because at base it never was about patriotism; it was about "what will sell" to the unwashed.

Hogwash...

Does the NFL Require Players to Stand for the National Anthem?

Here's what the game operations manual says regarding the national anthem, according to an NFL spokesperson:

The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.

During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.


Like I said -- it's BEEN in the manual for game operations for quite some time. And VERY SPECIFIC. Like the part about "holding helmets in the left hand".. It IS a statement of what is "marketable". Because the NFL is a ******* business.

And as a business it is left to the NFL's discretion to enforce current rules or not or leave them to interpretation. Our president should not be directing them like a dictator.

Again --- two words:

"Earnest Starr".

 

[Pogo]

Mods, this is a legitimate news story. Please leave it here where it will be seen by most members.

NFL owners consider requiring players to stand for anthem

It's BEEN an NFL rule for a couple decades.. Did you miss that part??

Nope, it hasn't. Not even a rule now. Fatter o' mact until 2009 players were still in the locker room during the anthem. That year, somebody thought it would be "marketable" to have them out on the field standing. Because at base it never was about patriotism; it was about "what will sell" to the unwashed.

Hogwash...

Does the NFL Require Players to Stand for the National Anthem?

Here's what the game operations manual says regarding the national anthem, according to an NFL spokesperson:

The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.

During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.


Like I said -- it's BEEN in the manual for game operations for quite some time. And VERY SPECIFIC. Like the part about "holding helmets in the left hand".. It IS a statement of what is "marketable". Because the NFL is a ******* business.

And as a business it is left to the NFL's discretion to enforce current rules or not or leave them to interpretation. Our president should not be directing them like a dictator.

When it comes to the ONE UNIFYING affirmation to country -- the one that only takes a couple minutes to perform -- it's worth weighing on politically. OR -- it becomes a target for those that seek DIVISION and POLARIZATION.. Whoever "they" are...

Dafuck's a national anthem got to do with a football game in the first place?

I've posed that question all over the board. No one can answer it.

Be the first.

 

[RASTAMEN]

It is a private business...the rules are up to them.

RULES ARE MADE TO BE CHALLENGED AND BROKEN!!!!!

 

[Coyote]

It is a private business...the rules are up to them.

RULES ARE MADE TO BE CHALLENGED AND BROKEN!!!!!

Indeed. But there can be consequences.....

 

[RASTAMEN]

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NFL owners are considering changing league rules to make it mandatory that players stand for the national anthem, a league spokesman said Tuesday.

The owners will discuss the possibility of changing the rule in a meeting next week. The league’s current policy asks that players players “stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand and refrain from talking” during the playing of the Star-Spangled Banner, but only allows for potential discipline from teams toward players failing to be on the field at that time.

NFL owners consider requiring players to stand for anthem

September 25, 2017 11:41AM
Poll: 61% Oppose Firing NFL Players Who Refuse to Stand for National Anthem, but 65% of Republicans Say Players Should be Fired

Today we’re releasing one question from the forthcoming national Cato 2017 Free Speech and Tolerance Survey of 2,300 Americans conducted by the Cato Institute in collaboration with YouGov.

The national survey finds that a solid majority, 61%, of Americans oppose firing NFL (National Football League) players who refuse to stand for the national anthem before football games in order to make a political statement. These results stand in contrast to President Trump’s remarks over the weekend and his urging NFL teams to fire players who refuse to stand for the anthem. A little more than a third (38%) of Americans align with Trump and support firing these players.

Conservative Republicans stand out in their support for firing NFL players who refuse to stand for the national anthem. Nearly two-thirds (65%) of Republicans say NFL players should be fired for this reason. Only 19% of Democrats and 35% of independents agree. Punishing NFL players for their political speech distinguishes political Conservatives from Libertarians. Using a political typology method to identify these ideological groups, the survey finds that Conservatives (62%) are the only political group to support firing NFL players. Conversely, 60% of Libertarians, 85% of Liberals, and 62% of Communitarians (social conservatives who support larger government) all oppose punishing players.
Poll: 61% Oppose Firing NFL Players Who Refuse to Stand for National Anthem, but 65% of Republicans Say Players Should be Fired

 

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Mods, this is a legitimate news story. Please leave it here where it will be seen by most members.

NFL owners consider requiring players to stand for anthem

It's BEEN an NFL rule for a couple decades.. Did you miss that part??

Nope, it hasn't. Not even a rule now. Fatter o' mact until 2009 players were still in the locker room during the anthem. That year, somebody thought it would be "marketable" to have them out on the field standing. Because at base it never was about patriotism; it was about "what will sell" to the unwashed.

Hogwash...

Does the NFL Require Players to Stand for the National Anthem?

Here's what the game operations manual says regarding the national anthem, according to an NFL spokesperson:

The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.

During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.


Like I said -- it's BEEN in the manual for game operations for quite some time. And VERY SPECIFIC. Like the part about "holding helmets in the left hand".. It IS a statement of what is "marketable". Because the NFL is a ******* business.

And as a business it is left to the NFL's discretion to enforce current rules or not or leave them to interpretation. Our president should not be directing them like a dictator.

When it comes to the ONE UNIFYING affirmation to country -- the one that only takes a couple minutes to perform -- it's worth weighing on politically. OR -- it becomes a target for those that seek DIVISION and POLARIZATION.. Whoever "they" are...

It is sad our president has chosen to inflame the whole thing and make it more divisive for political gain.

 

[Spare_change]

It's BEEN an NFL rule for a couple decades.. Did you miss that part??

Nope, it hasn't. Not even a rule now. Fatter o' mact until 2009 players were still in the locker room during the anthem. That year, somebody thought it would be "marketable" to have them out on the field standing. Because at base it never was about patriotism; it was about "what will sell" to the unwashed.

Hogwash...

Does the NFL Require Players to Stand for the National Anthem?

Here's what the game operations manual says regarding the national anthem, according to an NFL spokesperson:

The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.

During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.


Like I said -- it's BEEN in the manual for game operations for quite some time. And VERY SPECIFIC. Like the part about "holding helmets in the left hand".. It IS a statement of what is "marketable". Because the NFL is a ******* business.

And as a business it is left to the NFL's discretion to enforce current rules or not or leave them to interpretation. Our president should not be directing them like a dictator.

When it comes to the ONE UNIFYING affirmation to country -- the one that only takes a couple minutes to perform -- it's worth weighing on politically. OR -- it becomes a target for those that seek DIVISION and POLARIZATION.. Whoever "they" are...

It is sad our president has chosen to inflame the whole thing and make it more divisive for political gain.

... or take a stand that most REAL Americans support. Maybe that just means he's a real American.

 

[RASTAMEN]

It is a private business...the rules are up to them.

RULES ARE MADE TO BE CHALLENGED AND BROKEN!!!!!

Indeed. But there can be consequences.....

NFL owners will definitely face consequences.

 

[RASTAMEN]

Nope, it hasn't. Not even a rule now. Fatter o' mact until 2009 players were still in the locker room during the anthem. That year, somebody thought it would be "marketable" to have them out on the field standing. Because at base it never was about patriotism; it was about "what will sell" to the unwashed.

Hogwash...

Does the NFL Require Players to Stand for the National Anthem?

Here's what the game operations manual says regarding the national anthem, according to an NFL spokesperson:

The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.

During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.


Like I said -- it's BEEN in the manual for game operations for quite some time. And VERY SPECIFIC. Like the part about "holding helmets in the left hand".. It IS a statement of what is "marketable". Because the NFL is a ******* business.

And as a business it is left to the NFL's discretion to enforce current rules or not or leave them to interpretation. Our president should not be directing them like a dictator.

When it comes to the ONE UNIFYING affirmation to country -- the one that only takes a couple minutes to perform -- it's worth weighing on politically. OR -- it becomes a target for those that seek DIVISION and POLARIZATION.. Whoever "they" are...

It is sad our president has chosen to inflame the whole thing and make it more divisive for political gain.

... or take a stand that most REAL Americans support. Maybe that just means he's a real American.

Smart Americans simply laugh and say let Conservative so-called Americans drool over the Anthem/flag.

 

[flacaltenn]

It's BEEN an NFL rule for a couple decades.. Did you miss that part??

Nope, it hasn't. Not even a rule now. Fatter o' mact until 2009 players were still in the locker room during the anthem. That year, somebody thought it would be "marketable" to have them out on the field standing. Because at base it never was about patriotism; it was about "what will sell" to the unwashed.

Hogwash...

Does the NFL Require Players to Stand for the National Anthem?

Here's what the game operations manual says regarding the national anthem, according to an NFL spokesperson:

The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.

During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.


Like I said -- it's BEEN in the manual for game operations for quite some time. And VERY SPECIFIC. Like the part about "holding helmets in the left hand".. It IS a statement of what is "marketable". Because the NFL is a ******* business.

And as a business it is left to the NFL's discretion to enforce current rules or not or leave them to interpretation. Our president should not be directing them like a dictator.

When it comes to the ONE UNIFYING affirmation to country -- the one that only takes a couple minutes to perform -- it's worth weighing on politically. OR -- it becomes a target for those that seek DIVISION and POLARIZATION.. Whoever "they" are...

Dafuck's a national anthem got to do with a football game in the first place?

I've posed that question all over the board. No one can answer it.

Be the first.

It's a tradition. Nothing wrong with tradition. You have a sporting event. 1/2 the stadium is packed with fans who want to KILL the other 1/2 ----- Great time to remind the warring tribes that they are ALL Americans.

Simple. Most folks don't mind. Traditions are part of the culture. Ain't unique to America either.

 

[Coyote]

It is a private business...the rules are up to them.

RULES ARE MADE TO BE CHALLENGED AND BROKEN!!!!!

Indeed. But there can be consequences.....

NFL owners will definitely face consequences.

They all could. The thing is, it is between the owners, the players and the fans. Not a bunch of loud mouthed politicians.

 

[WheelieAddict]

Nope, it hasn't. Not even a rule now. Fatter o' mact until 2009 players were still in the locker room during the anthem. That year, somebody thought it would be "marketable" to have them out on the field standing. Because at base it never was about patriotism; it was about "what will sell" to the unwashed.

Hogwash...

Does the NFL Require Players to Stand for the National Anthem?

Here's what the game operations manual says regarding the national anthem, according to an NFL spokesperson:

The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.

During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.


Like I said -- it's BEEN in the manual for game operations for quite some time. And VERY SPECIFIC. Like the part about "holding helmets in the left hand".. It IS a statement of what is "marketable". Because the NFL is a ******* business.

And as a business it is left to the NFL's discretion to enforce current rules or not or leave them to interpretation. Our president should not be directing them like a dictator.

When it comes to the ONE UNIFYING affirmation to country -- the one that only takes a couple minutes to perform -- it's worth weighing on politically. OR -- it becomes a target for those that seek DIVISION and POLARIZATION.. Whoever "they" are...

It is sad our president has chosen to inflame the whole thing and make it more divisive for political gain.

... or take a stand that most REAL Americans support. Maybe that just means he's a real American.

^Only I and what I think or approve of can be a real American!

 

[Spare_change]

The problem is real simple -----

Some NFL players had a valid protest they wanted to make.

They chose the wrong method of protest. Their message was lost in the turmoil.

Now, they can't figure out how to admit they screwed up the protest.

Pretty simple - just blame somebody else.

It's the liberal way.

 

[Spare_change]

Hogwash...

Does the NFL Require Players to Stand for the National Anthem?

Here's what the game operations manual says regarding the national anthem, according to an NFL spokesperson:

The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.

During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.


Like I said -- it's BEEN in the manual for game operations for quite some time. And VERY SPECIFIC. Like the part about "holding helmets in the left hand".. It IS a statement of what is "marketable". Because the NFL is a ******* business.

And as a business it is left to the NFL's discretion to enforce current rules or not or leave them to interpretation. Our president should not be directing them like a dictator.

When it comes to the ONE UNIFYING affirmation to country -- the one that only takes a couple minutes to perform -- it's worth weighing on politically. OR -- it becomes a target for those that seek DIVISION and POLARIZATION.. Whoever "they" are...

It is sad our president has chosen to inflame the whole thing and make it more divisive for political gain.

... or take a stand that most REAL Americans support. Maybe that just means he's a real American.

^Only I and what I think or approve of can be a real American!

And, of course, we hear from an idiot.

You either believe, or you don't. There is no half way.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Depends on who you ask.

NFL national anthem protest denting ticket sales


NFL national anthem protest denting ticket sales

LOL

Well you're quoting third party vendors while I'm posting actual attendance figures.

That's interesting. Some news sources claim ticket sales are down, but others claim ticket sales are fine, and your source shows they are fine as well.

Maybe the real drop has been viewership only.

Well we were talking about attendance, not viewership. The figures I posted were based on the number of bodies passing through turn styles, where are not hurting. As far as viewership is concerned, I don't know that that's down either. TV viewership is down, but online streaming is is becoming more popular; so for all I can tell, viewership is merely shifting from TV to streaming.

We examined this a while back. TV viewership has been down for NFL although it's only now getting into football weather and passing out of baseball season.

What these false association fallacists fail to mention is that TV viewership for baseball is also down. And TV viewership for basketball is also down. And TV viewership for hockey is also down. Even NASCAR TV viewership is down. So this is a general trend, certainly due in part to new alternative media platforms (that all have pursued vigorously), but they like to cherrypick the one out of the group so they can trot out a bogus causation theory that they think makes a point.

I can watch games now on my phone; which of course, reduce TV ratings but not viewership.

A foreign concept to rightards.

No it's not a "foreign concept", but I would much rather watch a game on a large screen with big sound. That is unless you're talking about streaming, and then sending the picture to a large monitor.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

LOL

Well you're quoting third party vendors while I'm posting actual attendance figures.

That's interesting. Some news sources claim ticket sales are down, but others claim ticket sales are fine, and your source shows they are fine as well.

Maybe the real drop has been viewership only.

Well we were talking about attendance, not viewership. The figures I posted were based on the number of bodies passing through turn styles, where are not hurting. As far as viewership is concerned, I don't know that that's down either. TV viewership is down, but online streaming is is becoming more popular; so for all I can tell, viewership is merely shifting from TV to streaming.

We examined this a while back. TV viewership has been down for NFL although it's only now getting into football weather and passing out of baseball season.

What these false association fallacists fail to mention is that TV viewership for baseball is also down. And TV viewership for basketball is also down. And TV viewership for hockey is also down. Even NASCAR TV viewership is down. So this is a general trend, certainly due in part to new alternative media platforms (that all have pursued vigorously), but they like to cherrypick the one out of the group so they can trot out a bogus causation theory that they think makes a point.

I can watch games now on my phone; which of course, reduce TV ratings but not viewership.

A foreign concept to rightards.

My game of choice is baseball. I follow every game and I don't even own a TV.

Baseball's a good choice for an old man like you. Try not to doze off.

 

[WheelieAddict]

And as a business it is left to the NFL's discretion to enforce current rules or not or leave them to interpretation. Our president should not be directing them like a dictator.

When it comes to the ONE UNIFYING affirmation to country -- the one that only takes a couple minutes to perform -- it's worth weighing on politically. OR -- it becomes a target for those that seek DIVISION and POLARIZATION.. Whoever "they" are...

It is sad our president has chosen to inflame the whole thing and make it more divisive for political gain.

... or take a stand that most REAL Americans support. Maybe that just means he's a real American.

^Only I and what I think or approve of can be a real American!

And, of course, we hear from an idiot.

You either believe, or you don't. There is no half way.

Life is not black and white, then again your sort would like it to be with your limited intellectual ability.