New t.v. show idea to teach lefties...trading places for CEOs and low level workers....

[Marxist]

The free market fails at dictating salary to billions of people then. I hate this "success" narrative put forth, as if being a CEO is the only way to be successful or how people define it. Without money? Wait, hold on, do you think the walmart CEO is worth more then 100,000 sweatshop workers, adjusting their pay to american dollars?

What are you worth. Will you work for me for .25/ day?

I don't think anyone wants to work for .25 a day, however, we live in a world where these poor individuals have to work with the few jobs provided to them to get the basic needs of life.

OK. You sort of took my questioned and sort of answered it while deflecting?

Can we agree, you assign a worth to yourself for work performed? Your standards, .25 is ridculous. So what about a CEO that makes decisions that make millions upon millions of dollars? Some of those decisions are tough...and you can't agree with many of them. That CEO is being paid for his ability. He is compensated for what he demands as others in this world do the same.

No one has any problem with that until they screw over their labor force. It's also important to note that CEO pay does not seem to be based on performance to the same degree as the working class. With their contracts they can run a company into the ground and still get paid handsomely.

Well...a CEO isn't the working class...it's a whole other game. But here is a surprise, but I would say most CEO's worked their way up. Maybe not from the bottom of the ladder...but they got an education to start out a little above.

Yes, the CEO'S are a member of the class that exploits the working people, the true laborers, the laborers who make this world turn, who the CEO cannot function without, if only more realized this.. Yeah, how do you define "worked your way up" most don't come from poverty, they "work their up" by being born into upper class families with large amounts of wealth, getting lucky enough to get through education paid, get into a particular business...

 

[Nutz]

What are you worth. Will you work for me for .25/ day?

I don't think anyone wants to work for .25 a day, however, we live in a world where these poor individuals have to work with the few jobs provided to them to get the basic needs of life.

OK. You sort of took my questioned and sort of answered it while deflecting?

Can we agree, you assign a worth to yourself for work performed? Your standards, .25 is ridculous. So what about a CEO that makes decisions that make millions upon millions of dollars? Some of those decisions are tough...and you can't agree with many of them. That CEO is being paid for his ability. He is compensated for what he demands as others in this world do the same.

I follow the labor theory of value, the economic value of something is determined by the labor put into it, although you may disagree, it's how I view things. The CEO is simply making decisions, that is not an ability, and who do you think sets the CEO pay?

It is so much more than making decisions. It is leadership, salesmanship, wisdom...it's knowledge of accounting and law...it's budgeting and marketing and maintaining a business that can pay it's human resources. A CEO demands what he can get in compensation.

Wisdom? Salesmanship? Oh my god, that is not work, that is making ******* decisions in regards to sales to get profit for the capitalist. Budgeting and marketing.. Jesus christ. A CEO, such as the one of nestle or such, is a greedy ******, not all of them are, but I don't tend to side with international capitalist pigs these days.

Yes, salesmanship...without a doubt. A CEO sells his company and his products/services. A CEO makes deals with vendors, clients, partners, etc. A CEO creates contacts and opportunities.

If you were to hire a salesman...would you hire the person who lived in the city all his life and only knew 20 people or the person who lived in the city all his life and knew 20000 people?

Who is worth more?

 

[occupied]

You do realize those people are complaining about the pay of the CEO's of massive companies, do you know what the CEO of walmart makes?

You are compensated for your strengths. The free market dictates salary. Success dictates monetary compensation. Without money, how do you attract the best??

People are not just complaining about CEO pay, they are complaining that their pay is steadily increasing while employees' pay stays the same or even getting laid off to pay for that CEO. It's the best example that trickle down does not work as advertised.

I don't agree with that. There will always be a bottom line that a company has to keep. If a CEO is able to make necessary cuts to maintain success, why shouldn't he? You forget that it is a free marketplace that creates competition that discourages unethical business. Not to mention the power of the consumer. What is the problem? A company lays off employees for no good reason...buy from somewhere else!

Don't gloss over the problem, working class wages are flat while upper tax brackets are experiencing unprecedented income growth. Trickle down does not work as advertised but it damned sure works as intended, getting poor conservatives to close ranks around the wealthy because they think their livelihoods depend on it.

 

[Nutz]

You are compensated for your strengths. The free market dictates salary. Success dictates monetary compensation. Without money, how do you attract the best??

People are not just complaining about CEO pay, they are complaining that their pay is steadily increasing while employees' pay stays the same or even getting laid off to pay for that CEO. It's the best example that trickle down does not work as advertised.

I don't agree with that. There will always be a bottom line that a company has to keep. If a CEO is able to make necessary cuts to maintain success, why shouldn't he? You forget that it is a free marketplace that creates competition that discourages unethical business. Not to mention the power of the consumer. What is the problem? A company lays off employees for no good reason...buy from somewhere else!

Yeah, the bottom line of OHH NOOO WE CAN'T MAKE PROFITS TO PAY OUR EXECUTIVES MULTI MILLION DOLLAR SALARIES AND THE PRIVATE JET. You're essentially proving the CEO is out for himself and profit, lol, the free market bullshit, it's clearly been doing a great job, look at the past. The power of the consumer? One of the greatest capitalist contradictions is occurring right now, capitalists are producing massive surpluses they cannot sell to consumers who aren't making enough money. LOL. Then we'll all only be shopping at mom and pop shops, those are obviously around these days.

I prefer mom and pop shops.

Good luck finding them, it's not easy at all to start a business, other capitalists crush this.

Bah, there are plenty of mom and pop shops. Regretfully, I think people of your political persuasion want to make sure small business cannot succeed.

 

[Marxist]

I don't think anyone wants to work for .25 a day, however, we live in a world where these poor individuals have to work with the few jobs provided to them to get the basic needs of life.

OK. You sort of took my questioned and sort of answered it while deflecting?

Can we agree, you assign a worth to yourself for work performed? Your standards, .25 is ridculous. So what about a CEO that makes decisions that make millions upon millions of dollars? Some of those decisions are tough...and you can't agree with many of them. That CEO is being paid for his ability. He is compensated for what he demands as others in this world do the same.

I follow the labor theory of value, the economic value of something is determined by the labor put into it, although you may disagree, it's how I view things. The CEO is simply making decisions, that is not an ability, and who do you think sets the CEO pay?

It is so much more than making decisions. It is leadership, salesmanship, wisdom...it's knowledge of accounting and law...it's budgeting and marketing and maintaining a business that can pay it's human resources. A CEO demands what he can get in compensation.

Wisdom? Salesmanship? Oh my god, that is not work, that is making ******* decisions in regards to sales to get profit for the capitalist. Budgeting and marketing.. Jesus christ. A CEO, such as the one of nestle or such, is a greedy ******, not all of them are, but I don't tend to side with international capitalist pigs these days.

Yes, salesmanship...without a doubt. A CEO sells his company and his products/services. A CEO makes deals with vendors, clients, partners, etc. A CEO creates contacts and opportunities.

If you were to hire a salesman...would you hire the person who lived in the city all his life and only knew 20 people or the person who lived in the city all his life and knew 20000 people?

Who is worth more?

He does all of this to produce profit for himself and his small board of executives, oh, here we go with this bullshit worth argument. You define worth in terms of capitalism and finding ways to exploit people, I don't, everyone has equal "worth" to me.

 

[Marxist]

People are not just complaining about CEO pay, they are complaining that their pay is steadily increasing while employees' pay stays the same or even getting laid off to pay for that CEO. It's the best example that trickle down does not work as advertised.

I don't agree with that. There will always be a bottom line that a company has to keep. If a CEO is able to make necessary cuts to maintain success, why shouldn't he? You forget that it is a free marketplace that creates competition that discourages unethical business. Not to mention the power of the consumer. What is the problem? A company lays off employees for no good reason...buy from somewhere else!

Yeah, the bottom line of OHH NOOO WE CAN'T MAKE PROFITS TO PAY OUR EXECUTIVES MULTI MILLION DOLLAR SALARIES AND THE PRIVATE JET. You're essentially proving the CEO is out for himself and profit, lol, the free market bullshit, it's clearly been doing a great job, look at the past. The power of the consumer? One of the greatest capitalist contradictions is occurring right now, capitalists are producing massive surpluses they cannot sell to consumers who aren't making enough money. LOL. Then we'll all only be shopping at mom and pop shops, those are obviously around these days.

I prefer mom and pop shops.

Good luck finding them, it's not easy at all to start a business, other capitalists crush this.

Bah, there are plenty of mom and pop shops. Regretfully, I think people of your political persuasion want to make sure small business cannot succeed.

I don't want anyone to exploit others.

 

[Nutz]

You do realize those people are complaining about the pay of the CEO's of massive companies, do you know what the CEO of walmart makes?

You are compensated for your strengths. The free market dictates salary. Success dictates monetary compensation. Without money, how do you attract the best??

People are not just complaining about CEO pay, they are complaining that their pay is steadily increasing while employees' pay stays the same or even getting laid off to pay for that CEO. It's the best example that trickle down does not work as advertised.

I don't agree with that. There will always be a bottom line that a company has to keep. If a CEO is able to make necessary cuts to maintain success, why shouldn't he? You forget that it is a free marketplace that creates competition that discourages unethical business. Not to mention the power of the consumer. What is the problem? A company lays off employees for no good reason...buy from somewhere else!

Don't gloss over the problem, working class wages are flat while upper tax brackets are experiencing unprecedented income growth. Trickle down does not work as advertised but it damned sure works as intended, getting poor conservatives to close ranks around the wealthy because they think their livelihoods depend on it.

It hasn't trickled down all of the way, yet. Why would you not compensate the leaders of your company first? Why wouldn't you provide bonuses to those who pulled your business through a recession/

 

[Marxist]

You do realize those people are complaining about the pay of the CEO's of massive companies, do you know what the CEO of walmart makes?

You are compensated for your strengths. The free market dictates salary. Success dictates monetary compensation. Without money, how do you attract the best??

People are not just complaining about CEO pay, they are complaining that their pay is steadily increasing while employees' pay stays the same or even getting laid off to pay for that CEO. It's the best example that trickle down does not work as advertised.

I don't agree with that. There will always be a bottom line that a company has to keep. If a CEO is able to make necessary cuts to maintain success, why shouldn't he? You forget that it is a free marketplace that creates competition that discourages unethical business. Not to mention the power of the consumer. What is the problem? A company lays off employees for no good reason...buy from somewhere else!

Don't gloss over the problem, working class wages are flat while upper tax brackets are experiencing unprecedented income growth. Trickle down does not work as advertised but it damned sure works as intended, getting poor conservatives to close ranks around the wealthy because they think their livelihoods depend on it.

It hasn't trickled down all of the way, yet. Why would you not compensate the leaders of your company first? Why wouldn't you provide bonuses to those who pulled your business through a recession/

It hasn't trickled down all the way yet? LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL. POST OF THE YEAR BOYS AND GIRLS, POST OF THE ******* YEAR. It's been trickling up quite well, should we keep giving them tax breaks? Why would you not? They are greedy, can care less about ruining the lives of thousands of workers, exploiting third world countries, they want to protect their mansion, and let's keep this to the top paid CEO'S worldwide who actively encourage the horrid exploitation.

 

[Nutz]

OK. You sort of took my questioned and sort of answered it while deflecting?

Can we agree, you assign a worth to yourself for work performed? Your standards, .25 is ridculous. So what about a CEO that makes decisions that make millions upon millions of dollars? Some of those decisions are tough...and you can't agree with many of them. That CEO is being paid for his ability. He is compensated for what he demands as others in this world do the same.

I follow the labor theory of value, the economic value of something is determined by the labor put into it, although you may disagree, it's how I view things. The CEO is simply making decisions, that is not an ability, and who do you think sets the CEO pay?

It is so much more than making decisions. It is leadership, salesmanship, wisdom...it's knowledge of accounting and law...it's budgeting and marketing and maintaining a business that can pay it's human resources. A CEO demands what he can get in compensation.

Wisdom? Salesmanship? Oh my god, that is not work, that is making ******* decisions in regards to sales to get profit for the capitalist. Budgeting and marketing.. Jesus christ. A CEO, such as the one of nestle or such, is a greedy ******, not all of them are, but I don't tend to side with international capitalist pigs these days.

Yes, salesmanship...without a doubt. A CEO sells his company and his products/services. A CEO makes deals with vendors, clients, partners, etc. A CEO creates contacts and opportunities.

If you were to hire a salesman...would you hire the person who lived in the city all his life and only knew 20 people or the person who lived in the city all his life and knew 20000 people?

Who is worth more?

He does all of this to produce profit for himself and his small board of executives, oh, here we go with this bullshit worth argument. You define worth in terms of capitalism and finding ways to exploit people, I don't, everyone has equal "worth" to me.

Regretfully as long as free will exists...people will not have equal worth. I can provide too many examples as to why. So could you if you are honest.

 

[Marxist]

I follow the labor theory of value, the economic value of something is determined by the labor put into it, although you may disagree, it's how I view things. The CEO is simply making decisions, that is not an ability, and who do you think sets the CEO pay?

It is so much more than making decisions. It is leadership, salesmanship, wisdom...it's knowledge of accounting and law...it's budgeting and marketing and maintaining a business that can pay it's human resources. A CEO demands what he can get in compensation.

Wisdom? Salesmanship? Oh my god, that is not work, that is making ******* decisions in regards to sales to get profit for the capitalist. Budgeting and marketing.. Jesus christ. A CEO, such as the one of nestle or such, is a greedy ******, not all of them are, but I don't tend to side with international capitalist pigs these days.

Yes, salesmanship...without a doubt. A CEO sells his company and his products/services. A CEO makes deals with vendors, clients, partners, etc. A CEO creates contacts and opportunities.

If you were to hire a salesman...would you hire the person who lived in the city all his life and only knew 20 people or the person who lived in the city all his life and knew 20000 people?

Who is worth more?

He does all of this to produce profit for himself and his small board of executives, oh, here we go with this bullshit worth argument. You define worth in terms of capitalism and finding ways to exploit people, I don't, everyone has equal "worth" to me.

Regretfully as long as free will exists...people will not have equal worth. I can provide too many examples as to why. So could you if you are honest.

People have this concept of "worth" under a capitalist system, a stateless, classless, moneyless society would make it hard for this concept to have bearing.

 

[Nutz]

You are compensated for your strengths. The free market dictates salary. Success dictates monetary compensation. Without money, how do you attract the best??

People are not just complaining about CEO pay, they are complaining that their pay is steadily increasing while employees' pay stays the same or even getting laid off to pay for that CEO. It's the best example that trickle down does not work as advertised.

I don't agree with that. There will always be a bottom line that a company has to keep. If a CEO is able to make necessary cuts to maintain success, why shouldn't he? You forget that it is a free marketplace that creates competition that discourages unethical business. Not to mention the power of the consumer. What is the problem? A company lays off employees for no good reason...buy from somewhere else!

Don't gloss over the problem, working class wages are flat while upper tax brackets are experiencing unprecedented income growth. Trickle down does not work as advertised but it damned sure works as intended, getting poor conservatives to close ranks around the wealthy because they think their livelihoods depend on it.

It hasn't trickled down all of the way, yet. Why would you not compensate the leaders of your company first? Why wouldn't you provide bonuses to those who pulled your business through a recession/

It hasn't trickled down all the way yet? LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL. POST OF THE YEAR BOYS AND GIRLS, POST OF THE ******* YEAR. It's been trickling up quite well, should we keep giving them tax breaks? Why would you not? They are greedy, can care less about ruining the lives of thousands of workers, exploiting third world countries, they want to protect their mansion, and let's keep this to the top paid CEO'S worldwide who actively encourage the horrid exploitation.

We can agree to disagree...we are pretty much on opposite sides of the spectrum.

If you ever decide to start a business...I know an illiterate drug addict teaper....let him be your CEO since all people have equal worth.

 

[Nutz]

It is so much more than making decisions. It is leadership, salesmanship, wisdom...it's knowledge of accounting and law...it's budgeting and marketing and maintaining a business that can pay it's human resources. A CEO demands what he can get in compensation.

Wisdom? Salesmanship? Oh my god, that is not work, that is making ******* decisions in regards to sales to get profit for the capitalist. Budgeting and marketing.. Jesus christ. A CEO, such as the one of nestle or such, is a greedy ******, not all of them are, but I don't tend to side with international capitalist pigs these days.

Yes, salesmanship...without a doubt. A CEO sells his company and his products/services. A CEO makes deals with vendors, clients, partners, etc. A CEO creates contacts and opportunities.

If you were to hire a salesman...would you hire the person who lived in the city all his life and only knew 20 people or the person who lived in the city all his life and knew 20000 people?

Who is worth more?

He does all of this to produce profit for himself and his small board of executives, oh, here we go with this bullshit worth argument. You define worth in terms of capitalism and finding ways to exploit people, I don't, everyone has equal "worth" to me.

Regretfully as long as free will exists...people will not have equal worth. I can provide too many examples as to why. So could you if you are honest.

People have this concept of "worth" under a capitalist system, a stateless, classless, moneyless society would make it hard for this concept to have bearing.

Yeah, I am a capitalist. The world is capitalist. You aren't gonna change that.

 

[Marxist]

People are not just complaining about CEO pay, they are complaining that their pay is steadily increasing while employees' pay stays the same or even getting laid off to pay for that CEO. It's the best example that trickle down does not work as advertised.

I don't agree with that. There will always be a bottom line that a company has to keep. If a CEO is able to make necessary cuts to maintain success, why shouldn't he? You forget that it is a free marketplace that creates competition that discourages unethical business. Not to mention the power of the consumer. What is the problem? A company lays off employees for no good reason...buy from somewhere else!

Don't gloss over the problem, working class wages are flat while upper tax brackets are experiencing unprecedented income growth. Trickle down does not work as advertised but it damned sure works as intended, getting poor conservatives to close ranks around the wealthy because they think their livelihoods depend on it.

It hasn't trickled down all of the way, yet. Why would you not compensate the leaders of your company first? Why wouldn't you provide bonuses to those who pulled your business through a recession/

It hasn't trickled down all the way yet? LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL. POST OF THE YEAR BOYS AND GIRLS, POST OF THE ******* YEAR. It's been trickling up quite well, should we keep giving them tax breaks? Why would you not? They are greedy, can care less about ruining the lives of thousands of workers, exploiting third world countries, they want to protect their mansion, and let's keep this to the top paid CEO'S worldwide who actively encourage the horrid exploitation.

We can agree to disagree...we are pretty much on opposite sides of the spectrum.

If you ever decide to start a business...I know an illiterate drug addict teaper....let him be your CEO since all people have equal worth.

Great way to lack basic understanding of what I'm referring to as worth, since I view all actual jobs that benefit others as having equal worth.

 

[Marxist]

Wisdom? Salesmanship? Oh my god, that is not work, that is making ******* decisions in regards to sales to get profit for the capitalist. Budgeting and marketing.. Jesus christ. A CEO, such as the one of nestle or such, is a greedy ******, not all of them are, but I don't tend to side with international capitalist pigs these days.

Yes, salesmanship...without a doubt. A CEO sells his company and his products/services. A CEO makes deals with vendors, clients, partners, etc. A CEO creates contacts and opportunities.

If you were to hire a salesman...would you hire the person who lived in the city all his life and only knew 20 people or the person who lived in the city all his life and knew 20000 people?

Who is worth more?

He does all of this to produce profit for himself and his small board of executives, oh, here we go with this bullshit worth argument. You define worth in terms of capitalism and finding ways to exploit people, I don't, everyone has equal "worth" to me.

Regretfully as long as free will exists...people will not have equal worth. I can provide too many examples as to why. So could you if you are honest.

People have this concept of "worth" under a capitalist system, a stateless, classless, moneyless society would make it hard for this concept to have bearing.

Yeah, I am a capitalist. The world is capitalist. You aren't gonna change that.

Capitalism is constantly contradicting itself, and has already begun it's own destruction, mainly due to rampant capitalists. The lower classes are getting more and more agitated, we've had revolutions in the past over capitalism, it will happen again.

 

[Nutz]

Yes, salesmanship...without a doubt. A CEO sells his company and his products/services. A CEO makes deals with vendors, clients, partners, etc. A CEO creates contacts and opportunities.

If you were to hire a salesman...would you hire the person who lived in the city all his life and only knew 20 people or the person who lived in the city all his life and knew 20000 people?

Who is worth more?

He does all of this to produce profit for himself and his small board of executives, oh, here we go with this bullshit worth argument. You define worth in terms of capitalism and finding ways to exploit people, I don't, everyone has equal "worth" to me.

Regretfully as long as free will exists...people will not have equal worth. I can provide too many examples as to why. So could you if you are honest.

People have this concept of "worth" under a capitalist system, a stateless, classless, moneyless society would make it hard for this concept to have bearing.

Yeah, I am a capitalist. The world is capitalist. You aren't gonna change that.

Capitalism is constantly contradicting itself, and has already begun it's own destruction, mainly due to rampant capitalists. The lower classes are getting more and more agitated, we've had revolutions in the past over capitalism, it will happen again.

How long has capitalism existed. When did the downfall begin. How do you define the downfall. Are your ideals unique or do others thnk as you do?

 

[occupied]

The free market fails at dictating salary to billions of people then. I hate this "success" narrative put forth, as if being a CEO is the only way to be successful or how people define it. Without money? Wait, hold on, do you think the walmart CEO is worth more then 100,000 sweatshop workers, adjusting their pay to american dollars?

What are you worth. Will you work for me for .25/ day?

I don't think anyone wants to work for .25 a day, however, we live in a world where these poor individuals have to work with the few jobs provided to them to get the basic needs of life.

OK. You sort of took my questioned and sort of answered it while deflecting?

Can we agree, you assign a worth to yourself for work performed? Your standards, .25 is ridculous. So what about a CEO that makes decisions that make millions upon millions of dollars? Some of those decisions are tough...and you can't agree with many of them. That CEO is being paid for his ability. He is compensated for what he demands as others in this world do the same.

No one has any problem with that until they screw over their labor force. It's also important to note that CEO pay does not seem to be based on performance to the same degree as the working class. With their contracts they can run a company into the ground and still get paid handsomely.

Well...a CEO isn't the working class...it's a whole other game. But here is a surprise, but I would say most CEO's worked their way up. Maybe not from the bottom of the ladder...but they got an education to start out a little above.

CEOs are hired for their family/academic/monetary connections and ability to network among other wealthy well connected individuals as an equal. It's an exclusive club that is only rarely joined by the mythical person who worked their way up from employee to boss.

 

[KGB]

You are compensated for your strengths. The free market dictates salary. Success dictates monetary compensation. Without money, how do you attract the best??

The free market fails at dictating salary to billions of people then. I hate this "success" narrative put forth, as if being a CEO is the only way to be successful or how people define it. Without money? Wait, hold on, do you think the walmart CEO is worth more then 100,000 sweatshop workers, adjusting their pay to american dollars?

What are you worth. Will you work for me for .25/ day?

I don't think anyone wants to work for .25 a day, however, we live in a world where these poor individuals have to work with the few jobs provided to them to get the basic needs of life.

OK. You sort of took my questioned and sort of answered it while deflecting?

Can we agree, you assign a worth to yourself for work performed? Your standards, .25 is ridculous. So what about a CEO that makes decisions that make millions upon millions of dollars? Some of those decisions are tough...and you can't agree with many of them. That CEO is being paid for his ability. He is compensated for what he demands as others in this world do the same.

I follow the labor theory of value, the economic value of something is determined by the labor put into it, although you may disagree, it's how I view things. The CEO is simply making decisions, that is not an ability, and who do you think sets the CEO pay?

The value of anything is determined by what another person is willing to pay for it.

 

[Marxist]

He does all of this to produce profit for himself and his small board of executives, oh, here we go with this bullshit worth argument. You define worth in terms of capitalism and finding ways to exploit people, I don't, everyone has equal "worth" to me.

Regretfully as long as free will exists...people will not have equal worth. I can provide too many examples as to why. So could you if you are honest.

People have this concept of "worth" under a capitalist system, a stateless, classless, moneyless society would make it hard for this concept to have bearing.

Yeah, I am a capitalist. The world is capitalist. You aren't gonna change that.

Capitalism is constantly contradicting itself, and has already begun it's own destruction, mainly due to rampant capitalists. The lower classes are getting more and more agitated, we've had revolutions in the past over capitalism, it will happen again.

How long has capitalism existed. When did the downfall begin. How do you define the downfall. Are your ideals unique or do others thnk as you do?

Check out the video in my signature, but I'll try to sum it up:
- The stagnant wages of the working class, the constant overproduction of goods, waste of surplus/destruction of the environment, rampant agitation of the lower classes... Many more detailed reasons, the video helps explain this.

 

[Marxist]

The free market fails at dictating salary to billions of people then. I hate this "success" narrative put forth, as if being a CEO is the only way to be successful or how people define it. Without money? Wait, hold on, do you think the walmart CEO is worth more then 100,000 sweatshop workers, adjusting their pay to american dollars?

What are you worth. Will you work for me for .25/ day?

I don't think anyone wants to work for .25 a day, however, we live in a world where these poor individuals have to work with the few jobs provided to them to get the basic needs of life.

OK. You sort of took my questioned and sort of answered it while deflecting?

Can we agree, you assign a worth to yourself for work performed? Your standards, .25 is ridculous. So what about a CEO that makes decisions that make millions upon millions of dollars? Some of those decisions are tough...and you can't agree with many of them. That CEO is being paid for his ability. He is compensated for what he demands as others in this world do the same.

I follow the labor theory of value, the economic value of something is determined by the labor put into it, although you may disagree, it's how I view things. The CEO is simply making decisions, that is not an ability, and who do you think sets the CEO pay?

The value of anything is determined by what another person is willing to pay for it.

The whole concept of payment doesn't hold any bearing when referring to a possible communist society, but in today's society, that is largely bullshit. People pay for food because it is ******* food.

 

[Nutz]

Regretfully as long as free will exists...people will not have equal worth. I can provide too many examples as to why. So could you if you are honest.

People have this concept of "worth" under a capitalist system, a stateless, classless, moneyless society would make it hard for this concept to have bearing.

Yeah, I am a capitalist. The world is capitalist. You aren't gonna change that.

Capitalism is constantly contradicting itself, and has already begun it's own destruction, mainly due to rampant capitalists. The lower classes are getting more and more agitated, we've had revolutions in the past over capitalism, it will happen again.

How long has capitalism existed. When did the downfall begin. How do you define the downfall. Are your ideals unique or do others thnk as you do?

Check out the video in my signature, but I'll try to sum it up:
- The stagnant wages of the working class, the constant overproduction of goods, waste of surplus/destruction of the environment, rampant agitation of the lower classes... Many more detailed reasons, the video helps explain this.

I don't buy it, but please share with me a solution to these issues...in your own words. No links...just why you hold these ideals.