New poll shows what I've been saying about Democrats

[hadit]

But it is.

Your inability to see it doesn't change anything.

You just insisting it is does nothing to substantiate your assertion. I could just as easily claim that Quid Pro Joe is fully functional and capable of being president right now and it would have no foundation, no matter how many times I insisted it was true.

 

[berg80]

Nice post. Everyone hates Trump's America.

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Bingo.

 

[Crepitus]

You just insisting it is does nothing to substantiate your assertion. I could just as easily claim that Quid Pro Joe is fully functional and capable of being president right now and it would have no foundation, no matter how many times I insisted it was true.

My assertion is factually correct. it is substantiated by the objective evidence around you.

 

[berg80]

I've been saying for years now, that today's Democrats don't want our immigration laws enforced. According to this YouGov poll, 77% of democrats want ICE abolished.
These people are against borders, they don't want any deportations, and in fact they will even take to the streets to stop even violent criminals from being deported.
If you are an American voter and want to preserve our sovereignty, you are stupid to vote for these people at any level of government.

https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/econTabReport_qsNv5iE.pdf

The problem with the conclusions you've made based on the poll numbers is they are mostly your biased assumptions.

 

[hadit]

My assertion is factually correct. it is substantiated by the objective evidence around you.

You can make a factually correct statement and attempt to use it in a false manner, which is what you did.

 

[Hollie]

Go **** yourself with a cactus, crackwhore.

Oh, dear. Aren’t you the angry little lady.

 

[Nostra]

It was in the OP genius. You are lucky I am here for you my man. I feel like you would be totally lost without me.


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Oh, an online poll.

 

[berg80]

All the while they had been claiming they were not for open borders. What a bunch of liars.

The borders have never been open. Those who claim they were are a bunch of liars.

AI Overview

The "myth of open borders" refers to the political claim, often used by conservatives, that current U.S. immigration policies allow anyone to enter freely, when in reality, borders are heavily enforced, and legal entry requires meeting strict criteria
. Proponents of this view argue that despite increased border security funding and enforcement under various administrations (including Biden), the system is overwhelmed due to restrictive legal pathways and global migration pressures, not a lack of control, creating humanitarian challenges and encouraging illegal crossings. The core of the myth is that the border is "open," while reality shows a highly regulated, complex, and often overwhelmed system with significant enforcement.

Key arguments surrounding the "open border" myth:

• Fact: Borders are heavily guarded. U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) is a large, well-funded agency with increased capacity and funding, especially since 2001, refuting claims of an entirely open border.
• Fact: Enforcement has increased. Despite rhetoric, enforcement actions like arrests, detentions, and removals have risen under recent administrations, with significant resources dedicated to border security.
• Fact: Legal pathways are restrictive. The U.S. immigration system has narrow exceptions, making it difficult for most people to immigrate legally, pushing many to seek irregular entry.
• The "Myth" as a Political Tool: Critics argue the "open border" narrative is a political fiction, mischaracterizing a complex system to justify stricter policies and often ignoring underlying causes like labor demand or policy failures.
• The Real Problem: Some sources suggest the actual issue isn't "openness" but an overwhelmed system facing record migration, poor legal pathways, and humanitarian crises, leading to chaos.

 

[Independent thinker]

The borders have never been open. Those who claim they were are a bunch of liars.

AI Overview

The "myth of open borders" refers to the political claim, often used by conservatives, that current U.S. immigration policies allow anyone to enter freely, when in reality, borders are heavily enforced, and legal entry requires meeting strict criteria
. Proponents of this view argue that despite increased border security funding and enforcement under various administrations (including Biden), the system is overwhelmed due to restrictive legal pathways and global migration pressures, not a lack of control, creating humanitarian challenges and encouraging illegal crossings. The core of the myth is that the border is "open," while reality shows a highly regulated, complex, and often overwhelmed system with significant enforcement.

Key arguments surrounding the "open border" myth:

• Fact: Borders are heavily guarded. U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) is a large, well-funded agency with increased capacity and funding, especially since 2001, refuting claims of an entirely open border.
• Fact: Enforcement has increased. Despite rhetoric, enforcement actions like arrests, detentions, and removals have risen under recent administrations, with significant resources dedicated to border security.
• Fact: Legal pathways are restrictive. The U.S. immigration system has narrow exceptions, making it difficult for most people to immigrate legally, pushing many to seek irregular entry.
• The "Myth" as a Political Tool: Critics argue the "open border" narrative is a political fiction, mischaracterizing a complex system to justify stricter policies and often ignoring underlying causes like labor demand or policy failures.
• The Real Problem: Some sources suggest the actual issue isn't "openness" but an overwhelmed system facing record migration, poor legal pathways, and humanitarian crises, leading to chaos.

Funny how you guys think that by altering the facts you prove your point.

 

[Hollie]

The borders have never been open. Those who claim they were are a bunch of liars.

AI Overview

The "myth of open borders" refers to the political claim, often used by conservatives, that current U.S. immigration policies allow anyone to enter freely, when in reality, borders are heavily enforced, and legal entry requires meeting strict criteria
. Proponents of this view argue that despite increased border security funding and enforcement under various administrations (including Biden), the system is overwhelmed due to restrictive legal pathways and global migration pressures, not a lack of control, creating humanitarian challenges and encouraging illegal crossings. The core of the myth is that the border is "open," while reality shows a highly regulated, complex, and often overwhelmed system with significant enforcement.

Key arguments surrounding the "open border" myth:

• Fact: Borders are heavily guarded. U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) is a large, well-funded agency with increased capacity and funding, especially since 2001, refuting claims of an entirely open border.
• Fact: Enforcement has increased. Despite rhetoric, enforcement actions like arrests, detentions, and removals have risen under recent administrations, with significant resources dedicated to border security.
• Fact: Legal pathways are restrictive. The U.S. immigration system has narrow exceptions, making it difficult for most people to immigrate legally, pushing many to seek irregular entry.
• The "Myth" as a Political Tool: Critics argue the "open border" narrative is a political fiction, mischaracterizing a complex system to justify stricter policies and often ignoring underlying causes like labor demand or policy failures.
• The Real Problem: Some sources suggest the actual issue isn't "openness" but an overwhelmed system facing record migration, poor legal pathways, and humanitarian crises, leading to chaos.

Silly, tedious cutting and pasting,

 

[marvin martian]

Not the majority. It's 46%.
Certainly an overwhelming majority of Dimocrats (77%).

A majority of Democrats also believe Charlie Kirk's assassination was faked.

The mental illness is widespread.

 

[gipper]

Democrats place criminals first

 

[Nostra]

My assertion is factually correct. it is substantiated by the objective evidence around you.

Bullshit.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

So Americans don't know their lived experienced and only succumb to whatever the white mainstream media tells 'em huh?

What is your definition of "lived" experience? Inflation? It's coming down. Gas prices? They have been dropping. Mortgage rates? Still needs work. Wages? They have been rising. Unemployment rate? Not much change. Israeli/Palestinian situation? Has gotten much better since Biden left office. Illegal immigration? Ongoing problem, I can see how Dimocrats are pissed since Trump is working to rid the country of as many illegals as possible.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Wanting ICE abolished doesn't mean people are against borders. America can maintain it's sovereignty without ICE.

You guys don't want border security or ICE. P-E-R-I-O-D!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[DigitalDrifter]

The borders have never been open. Those who claim they were are a bunch of liars.

AI Overview

The "myth of open borders" refers to the political claim, often used by conservatives, that current U.S. immigration policies allow anyone to enter freely, when in reality, borders are heavily enforced, and legal entry requires meeting strict criteria
. Proponents of this view argue that despite increased border security funding and enforcement under various administrations (including Biden), the system is overwhelmed due to restrictive legal pathways and global migration pressures, not a lack of control, creating humanitarian challenges and encouraging illegal crossings. The core of the myth is that the border is "open," while reality shows a highly regulated, complex, and often overwhelmed system with significant enforcement.

Key arguments surrounding the "open border" myth:

• Fact: Borders are heavily guarded. U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) is a large, well-funded agency with increased capacity and funding, especially since 2001, refuting claims of an entirely open border.
• Fact: Enforcement has increased. Despite rhetoric, enforcement actions like arrests, detentions, and removals have risen under recent administrations, with significant resources dedicated to border security.
• Fact: Legal pathways are restrictive. The U.S. immigration system has narrow exceptions, making it difficult for most people to immigrate legally, pushing many to seek irregular entry.
• The "Myth" as a Political Tool: Critics argue the "open border" narrative is a political fiction, mischaracterizing a complex system to justify stricter policies and often ignoring underlying causes like labor demand or policy failures.
• The Real Problem: Some sources suggest the actual issue isn't "openness" but an overwhelmed system facing record migration, poor legal pathways, and humanitarian crises, leading to chaos.

Never "officially" open, you mean.

FACT:

Biden in 2019: The Fact​

A video clipping of Biden speaking at a debate prior to general elections in 2019 clearly shows him say, 'Surge the borders.' "I would in fact make sure that there is immediately a surge to the border. They deserve to be heard. That's who we are. "We're a nation that says, 'You want to flee, and you're fleeing oppression, you should come,'" Biden had told during a debate moderated by Univision's Jorge Ramos in 2019.


There were record #'s that flooded in while Joe Biden was president, and there was a reason for it. Biden invited them, and they came.

How Biden Ignored Warnings and Lost Americans’ Faith in Immigration​

The Democratic president and his top advisers rejected recommendations that could have eased the border crisis that helped return Donald Trump to the White House.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/07/us/politics/biden-immigration-trump.html

 

[IM2]

You guys don't want border security or ICE. P-E-R-I-O-D!!!!!!!!!!!

ICE was created just over 20 years ago. We survived 230 years without them. So they aren't necessary. You are not for border security. There are 4 borders, 3 of which are generally wide open. Trump has even denied that there is a northern border. This excuse about the border is another part of the Lee Atwater strategy.

You start out in 1954 by saying, “******, ******, ******.” By 1968 you can’t say “******”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “******, ******.”

Border security, immigration, open borders, ICE, invasions, etc., are all racist whistles and you know it.

 

[Hafar1014]

ICE was created just over 20 years ago. We survived 230 years without them. So they aren't necessary. You are not for border security. There are 4 borders, 3 of which are generally wide open. Trump has even denied that there is a northern border. This excuse about the border is another part of the Lee Atwater strategy.

You start out in 1954 by saying, “******, ******, ******.” By 1968 you can’t say “******”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “******, ******.”

Border security, immigration, open borders, ICE, invasions, etc., are all racist whistles and you know it.

5 years ago Democrats opened the border and caused this mess. Now we are cleaning it up

 

[DigitalDrifter]

ICE was created just over 20 years ago. We survived 230 years without them. So they aren't necessary. You are not for border security. There are 4 borders, 3 of which are generally wide open. Trump has even denied that there is a northern border. This excuse about the border is another part of the Lee Atwater strategy.

You start out in 1954 by saying, “******, ******, ******.” By 1968 you can’t say “******”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “******, ******.”

Border security, immigration, open borders, ICE, invasions, etc., are all racist whistles and you know it.

We survived 230 years, because the invasion wasn't a big problem until about thirty years ago. ICE is necessary now more than ever, because we all know now that the moment you guys get back in the WH, the flood will return because you guys will once again invite the third-world to as Biden put it, "surge to the border".

And by the way, the northern border pales in comparison to the southern border, it's not even close.

 

[Hafar1014]

We survived 230 years, because the invasion wasn't a big problem until about thirty years ago. ICE is necessary now more than ever, because we all know now that the moment you guys get back in the WH, the flood will return because you guys will once again invite the third-world to as Biden put it, "surge to the border".

And by the way, the northern border pales in comparison to the southern border, it's not even close.

Biden made it a problem