New Poll Shows Trump's Disapproval With White Working Class Voters Rises to 54%

[Rand]

And going to war with Iran is not conservative....especially when Trump lied to your simpleton MAGA ass and said he would start no new wars.

That depends upon insight into the reasoning for going to war with Iran, one's perspective of the last 5 decades and of the Obama deal with Iran.

Also, Iran isn't a "new war". Over the last decades, they've made their intent clear and have killed hundreds of US citizens, in addition to being the destabilizing factor in the ME and largest sponsor of terrorism. And they've made it very clear what their intent is for America (and Israel).

There are more valid reasons for dealing with Iran now than not. All admins (and indeed the world) have opined that Iran should be dealt with since Reagan. The real problem for the Left is the POTUS who is dealing with it.

If Trump pulls this off, the reality is that he will be historically hailed for one of the most consequential presidencies in recent history. The Left hates that.

 

[Alicia J]

So force someone to buy a healthcare plan. But if they need to use it they can't afford the deductible. That's a civilized society? You loons fucked the healthcare system up.

The health care system was fucked up long before Obamacare, you hopeless simp. Obamacare was a definite improvement before Trump and the Republican Party fucked it up.

You are too stupid to talk to. That is the bottom line.

 

[Alicia J]

So you cannot read?

I read just fine.

The fundamental problem is that you are too stupid and too entrenched in the MAGA cult to understand what conservatism means.

 

[jknowgood]

The health care system was fucked up long before Obamacare, you hopeless simp. Obamacare was a definite improvement before Trump and the Republican Party fucked it up.

You are too stupid to talk to. That is the bottom line.

Like I said I had great healthcare in the 90's for around $15 a week. Government screwed that up, just like it does with everything it touches.

 

[jknowgood]

I read just fine.

The fundamental problem is that you are too stupid and too entrenched in the MAGA cult to understand what conservatism means.

If you support him, he isn't a conservative. He is a loon.

 

[Rand]

There are no credible accusations against Trump in any of the files connected to the Epstein matter. None. The few that exist have been thoroughly debunked.

It is yet another manifestation of TDS. It is not possible to prove that Trump never did anything wrong, so Lefties just continually claim that SOMEWHERE, in one of those files that hasn't been released yet, is the "smoking gun."

Right. Got it.

And all victims/witnesses on the matter have yet to validate assertions to the contrary. Just the opposite, they seem to exonerate him.

 

[Rand]

No, we're not....voting for all the corruption and pork in the BBB is not conservative.

Voting for this disastrous war in Iran is not conservative.

And you still can't explain why Trump lied to you about the Iran war. I thought Trump voters were against new wars? You all are obviously totally full of shit and you always will be.

So you say. But what is beyond all dispute is that the voters spoke. And that makes it decidedly the most important part of the Democratic process, does it not?

Your assertions that Trump 'lied' about the war are your perspective, not verified fact. And again, if you consider Iran a "new war", you haven't been paying attention.

 

[Alicia J]

If you support him, he isn't a conservative. He is a loon.

I don't support him. I would never vote for Massie.

But his beliefs are conservative. Your beliefs are not. You belong to a radicalized deranged MAGA cult that does whatever Trump wants. That is not conservative.

 

[Alicia J]

So you say. But what is beyond all dispute is that the voters spoke.

Which is irrelevant to what we are discussing.

Millions of Republican voters became radicalized, like you, and joined a cult run by Trump. And the people in the Trump Cult are no longer conservatives. That's just the truth.

And that makes it decidedly the most important part of the Democratic process, does it not?

Your assertions that Trump 'lied' about the war are your perspective, not verified fact. And again, if you consider Iran a "new war", you haven't been paying attention.

Trump did lie to you, simp. He said on the campaign trail in 2024 that he would start no new wars.

He also said last summer that Iran's nuclear program was "obliterated". Was Trump lying to you last summer or is he lying to you now?

 

[jknowgood]

I don't support him. I would never vote for Massie.

But his beliefs are conservative. Your beliefs are not. You belong to a radicalized deranged MAGA cult that does whatever Trump wants. That is not conservative.

He is as conservative as Graham and hopefully he will be voted out next month.

 

[dblack]

He is as conservative as Graham and hopefully he will be voted out next month.

More important than who you're "voting out" is who you're "voting in".

 

[jknowgood]

More important than who you're "voting out" is who you're "voting in".

Looks like I'm voting for Lynch so far. Hell I'd vote for a Democrat before I'd vote for Graham, at least I know what I was voting in.

 

[kyzr]

Then refute what I said. You posted mindless MAGA cult drivel and it blew up in your face.

You asked what about Maassie is not conservative, I posted

You did not refute any of the posted reasons. You posted this, calling MAGA a "deranged cult" with no rationale'.

Loyalty to Trump is a GOP litmus test"
In other words....it's a deranged CULT. And that has nothing to do with conservatism.
But thank you for proving my point. Obviously, you're not even smart enough to read the dumb crap that you post.

And in no way, shape, or form does that not make Massie a conservative.

"Conservatives" differ from Massie as shown above. Massie is more Libertarian than Conservative, similar to Rand Paul.
Republicans want more conservative guys than Massie, like AOC calling for Fetterman to be primaried.

I will. Because you are. Because you are sick in the head.

A low IQ response.

 

[Captain Caveman]

This is devastating news for Trump

What's devastating for Lefties is, over 900 days before Trump leaves the White House. So you have several thousand gallons of tears to go yet.

Trump’s Final Term Ends in: - Countdown Timer

Trump’s Final Term Ends in: Countdown Timer

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[Rand]

Which is irrelevant to what we are discussing.

No. It's entirely relevant, and is a discussion you began with your declarations here.

Trump did lie to you, simp. He said on the campaign trail in 2024 that he would start no new wars.

Already addressed.

He also said last summer that Iran's nuclear program was "obliterated". Was Trump lying to you last summer or is he lying to you now?

It's all about the dust. Your media sources minimize the reality of Iran and their nuclear aspirations. Do you understand that the Obama deal limitations (FWTW) on Iran are set to expire in the next few years? That they can once again begin to enrich Uranium? And advance their nuclear objectives?

That they are in possession of HEU, which can be enriched to weapons grade in just a week or two? And that they have declared their right to do so, and that their current supply is enough to make 11 nukes?

Are you in favor of Iran having Nuclear capability? Do you trust Iran? What does their history tell you? How about the fact that they've been sponsoring terrorism by proxy throughout the region? Or that they've attacked their Gulf neighbors who had nothing to do with their demise? Or simply their history of intent toward America?

And what happens if they are allowed to advance their nuke objectives? When they can control the strait with impunity? When they can exert immovable control over the entire region? How does that affect the ME, the West and the entire world?

Yes, a lot of questions, but there seems to be a lot you fail to consider in your assessment.

You're deceived about Iran, Trump's intentions and their nuclear aspirations.

 

[Alicia J]

You asked what about Maassie is not conservative, I posted
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You did not refute any of the posted reasons. You posted this, calling MAGA a "deranged cult" with no rationale'.

Loyalty to Trump is a GOP litmus test"
In other words....it's a deranged CULT. And that has nothing to do with conservatism.
But thank you for proving my point. Obviously, you're not even smart enough to read the dumb crap that you post.

"Conservatives" differ from Massie as shown above. Massie is more Libertarian than Conservative, similar to Rand Paul.
Republicans want more conservative guys than Massie, like AOC calling for Fetterman to be primaried.


A low IQ response.

Clashes with Trump.

Why does that make Massie not conservative? Only if you are in a cult is that "true".

Starting totally unnecessary wars with Iran is not conservative. All the pork in the BBB is not conservative. Tariffs sure as **** are not conservative.

You don't know what conservative is because you are not conservative.

 

[Alicia J]

What's devastating for Lefties is, over 900 days before Trump leaves the White House. So you have several thousand gallons of tears to go yet.

Trump’s Final Term Ends in: - Countdown Timer

Trump’s Final Term Ends in: Countdown Timer

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Not really. Trump's presidency is effectively over after the MAGA Cuck Party gets destroyed in November.

 

[Bad Bob]

I'm not sure why the defensiveness.

No defensiveness. I just dislike liars, adulterers and pedos like the Dementia Don.

I never said she lied. I said you did. The fact most MAGAts are liars and/or semi-literate is sad, but true.

The two circled quotes are two separate statements. The first deals with the Woolzaks, who appear to be neighbors where she might have been molested. The second deals with the shower all MAGAts are drooling over.

Fact Check: Posts Claim Contents of 'Ashley Biden's Diary' Have Been Verified. Here Are the Facts

The existence of a diary and the authenticity of purported facsimiles of a diary are two entirely different questions.

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[kyzr]

Clashes with Trump.

Why does that make Massie not conservative? Only if you are in a cult is that "true".

Nonsense. Is Fetterman a progressive? Conservatism has degrees like progressivism does. Massie is not conservative enough for the state he represents. Stop calling people a "cult" without proving it. I could prove democrats a cukt for seeing Joe Biden's senility and lack of awareness ans still supporting him, as Morning Joe said "this is the best version of Joe Biden ever", a cult if you believe that.

Starting totally unnecessary wars with Iran is not conservative. All the pork in the BBB is not conservative. Tariffs sure as **** are not conservative.You don't know what conservative is because you are not conservative.

Not to bust your argument, but Trump considers himself a populist more than a conservative, as Copilot says:
"He publicly embraces populism far more explicitly than traditional conservatism, though he also positions himself within the conservative movement when it suits his political goals."

Trump expands the Republican base, getting more minority and more union votes than typical conservatives would.

 

[kyzr]

Not really. Trump's presidency is effectively over after the MAGA Cuck Party gets destroyed in November.

By whom? The democrats are on the wrong side of "normal" for that to happen.