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Libertarians believe, if you believe their party platform, that the government has no business in retirement issues. That is not a centrist position given the overwhelming support in the US for Social Security and Medicare;
to support NO government involvement in those areas is the extremist position by far.
A new poll by Esquire magazine and NBC News found that 51% of Americans are centralist.
Most Americans are centrists, study finds
And what are both parties doing? Moving farther and farther away from the center. How is the concept of moving farther away from the center working for the Democratic and Republican Parties? 61% of Democrats agreed with their party on key issues, where as only 42% of Republicans agree with their party on key issues.
How far right can Republicans go? | The Great Debate
Not only are the demographics here on USMB not even close to mirroring the true demographics of America, the two major parties don't mirror the demographics of America either.
So when we get a group pf people telling us what is best for America on these boards or in the media, their concept doesn't fit the thinking of a huge majority of Americans at all.
Basically what we have here is taxation without representation for a majority of Americans.
I used to be a moderate Republican until they threw me out of their party for being too moderate. Obama has been a centrist's dream. An articulate and charismatic moderate...not to mention being a minority is a plus.
Great post. I agree completely. The far left and far right are very similar. Many times it is difficult to tell them apart.New Poll indicates 51% of Americans are Centralist
They're afraid to be anything else. They don't know how bad off we are economically and why. And these are the good ole` days.
51% of Americans are in the center because there is nothing that either side is offering that appeals to them in my opinion.
As far as where we are economically we are living on credit when we should be paying our bills. In order to pay our bills we need a compromise solution that neither side will be happy with. That means reducing spending AND raising taxes. Doing only one or the other won't pay the bills. We can't cut enough spending and we can't raise enough taxes. We MUST do both.
Yes, that makes me unpopular with both sides but that is why I am an Independent and part of the new 51% majority.
Compromise has always been a dirty word for the extremists of both parties. It's only when compromise became a dirty word for the majority of the party that things become bad. That has happened to the Republican party. If it happens to the Democrats too...then it will really be bad. Say for example someone like Michael Moore became the Grover Norquist of the Democrats, and targeted moderate Democrats like the Tea Party does to moderate Republicans.
And, they are absent of independent thought. Just take Kosh as an example. It responds to posts right out of the pseudo-conservative handbook.Great post. I agree completely. The far left and far right are very similar. Many times it is difficult to tell them apart.51% of Americans are in the center because there is nothing that either side is offering that appeals to them in my opinion.
As far as where we are economically we are living on credit when we should be paying our bills. In order to pay our bills we need a compromise solution that neither side will be happy with. That means reducing spending AND raising taxes. Doing only one or the other won't pay the bills. We can't cut enough spending and we can't raise enough taxes. We MUST do both.
Yes, that makes me unpopular with both sides but that is why I am an Independent and part of the new 51% majority.
Compromise has always been a dirty word for the extremists of both parties. It's only when compromise became a dirty word for the majority of the party that things become bad. That has happened to the Republican party. If it happens to the Democrats too...then it will really be bad. Say for example someone like Michael Moore became the Grover Norquist of the Democrats, and targeted moderate Democrats like the Tea Party does to moderate Republicans.
The far left and far right are very similar. Many times it is difficult to tell them apart.
thats because they have the same attitude towards anyone who does not think like they do......"you dont think like we do....fuck you"......and they never question their own party.....never......
Exactly the kind of fact-free, hollow, knee jerk response I'd expect from a 4th rate poster like you.
Hey Rabbit. Still living the "fantasy life" I see. You ever find out if consumer spending drives 70% of the economy?
I thought that the above was one of the more stupid things (saying the economy IS NOT consumer driven) I have seen you write. Then you come along with the far right being opposed to crony capitalism. LMAO
You silly fucking rabbit, what bullshit will you write next.
Sent to you by the stump broke blah blah blah Zeke from a computer.
Well at least you admit to being stumpbroke. That's progress of sorts.
No, Zeke, consumer spending does not drive the economy. Business investment does. And what do you think happened business investment last quarter? Yeah, down the toilet.
But please explain how corporations are not centrist. This ought to be a howl.
Libertarians believe, if you believe their party platform, that the government has no business in retirement issues. That is not a centrist position given the overwhelming support in the US for Social Security and Medicare;
to support NO government involvement in those areas is the extremist position by far.
HUH?
Now well , the government has been FORCIBLY TAKING $$$$ from your paycheck for forty years ,
Now you are 65? Are you going to let them keep all that money or are you now forced again to support SS so that you can get your money back?
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Hey Rabbit. Still living the "fantasy life" I see. You ever find out if consumer spending drives 70% of the economy?
I thought that the above was one of the more stupid things (saying the economy IS NOT consumer driven) I have seen you write. Then you come along with the far right being opposed to crony capitalism. LMAO
You silly fucking rabbit, what bullshit will you write next.
Sent to you by the stump broke blah blah blah Zeke from a computer.
Well at least you admit to being stumpbroke. That's progress of sorts.
No, Zeke, consumer spending does not drive the economy. Business investment does. And what do you think happened business investment last quarter? Yeah, down the toilet.
But please explain how corporations are not centrist. This ought to be a howl.
No rabbit, you are to stupid to actually try and have a "conversation" with about anything.
When you repeatedly make the claim that consumer spending does not drive the economy, even the right wing hacks on here that agree with you most of the time roll their eyes and say; silly fucking rabbit. You are spouting bull shit.
But somehow, the rabbit has decided the hundreds of economists that study the economy of the USA and have determined that around 70% of our economic activity is driven by consumers, somehow a rabbit on a message board with a high school education at best, is telling them they are wrong.
Only on a message board can bullshit like this be written and treated like it has a grounding in fact. Carry on rabbit. You tell em.
I gotta go to work.
I am one of those centralists so Republicans refer to me as a liberal, socialist, Nazi, baby eater.
Democrats don't give me too many problems except the super liberals because I am cool with animal testing when it comes to medical research and because I like guns.
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And what are both parties doing? Moving farther and farther away from the center.
And, they are absent of independent thought. Just take Kosh as an example. It responds to posts right out of the pseudo-conservative handbook.Great post. I agree completely. The far left and far right are very similar. Many times it is difficult to tell them apart.
Compromise has always been a dirty word for the extremists of both parties. It's only when compromise became a dirty word for the majority of the party that things become bad. That has happened to the Republican party. If it happens to the Democrats too...then it will really be bad. Say for example someone like Michael Moore became the Grover Norquist of the Democrats, and targeted moderate Democrats like the Tea Party does to moderate Republicans.
The far left and far right are very similar. Many times it is difficult to tell them apart.
thats because they have the same attitude towards anyone who does not think like they do......"you dont think like we do....fuck you"......and they never question their own party.....never......
And, they are absent of independent thought. Just take Kosh as an example. It responds to posts right out of the pseudo-conservative handbook.The far left and far right are very similar. Many times it is difficult to tell them apart.
thats because they have the same attitude towards anyone who does not think like they do......"you dont think like we do....fuck you"......and they never question their own party.....never......
so says the far left Obama drone......like that?....
And, they are absent of independent thought. Just take Kosh as an example. It responds to posts right out of the pseudo-conservative handbook.
so says the far left Obama drone......like that?....
Did you steal her handbook?
And, they are absent of independent thought. Just take Kosh as an example. It responds to posts right out of the pseudo-conservative handbook.The far left and far right are very similar. Many times it is difficult to tell them apart.
thats because they have the same attitude towards anyone who does not think like they do......"you dont think like we do....fuck you"......and they never question their own party.....never......
so says the far left Obama drone......like that?....
And, they are absent of independent thought. Just take Kosh as an example. It responds to posts right out of the pseudo-conservative handbook.
so says the far left Obama drone......like that?....
Did you steal her handbook?
so says the far left Obama drone......like that?....
Did you steal her handbook?
its a one pager.....with one phrase....
Well at least you admit to being stumpbroke. That's progress of sorts.
No, Zeke, consumer spending does not drive the economy. Business investment does. And what do you think happened business investment last quarter? Yeah, down the toilet.
But please explain how corporations are not centrist. This ought to be a howl.
No rabbit, you are to stupid to actually try and have a "conversation" with about anything.
When you repeatedly make the claim that consumer spending does not drive the economy, even the right wing hacks on here that agree with you most of the time roll their eyes and say; silly fucking rabbit. You are spouting bull shit.
But somehow, the rabbit has decided the hundreds of economists that study the economy of the USA and have determined that around 70% of our economic activity is driven by consumers, somehow a rabbit on a message board with a high school education at best, is telling them they are wrong.
Only on a message board can bullshit like this be written and treated like it has a grounding in fact. Carry on rabbit. You tell em.
I gotta go to work.
Isn't he the same fuckwit who says that demand doesn't create jobs?
Read the following:A new poll by Esquire magazine and NBC News found that 51% of Americans are centralist.
Most Americans are centrists, study finds
And what are both parties doing? Moving farther and farther away from the center. How is the concept of moving farther away from the center working for the Democratic and Republican Parties? 61% of Democrats agreed with their party on key issues, where as only 42% of Republicans agree with their party on key issues.
How far right can Republicans go? | The Great Debate
Not only are the demographics here on USMB not even close to mirroring the true demographics of America, the two major parties don't mirror the demographics of America either.
So when we get a group pf people telling us what is best for America on these boards or in the media, their concept doesn't fit the thinking of a huge majority of Americans at all.
Basically what we have here is taxation without representation for a majority of Americans.
And, they are absent of independent thought. Just take Kosh as an example. It responds to posts right out of the pseudo-conservative handbook.
so says the far left Obama drone......like that?....
So you are saying that this is only part of the concretive handbook only?
Oh my support for the racist far left Obama drones, good for you for showing your partisanship finally!
Did you steal her handbook?
its a one pager.....with one phrase....
Keep showing that hyper-partisanship!
Way to go.
Support those racist far left Obama drones with all your might!
