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Remodeling Maidiac
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resistance is as easy as TURNING OFF BLUETOOTH.
Until new phones are programmed to not give you an option.
candycorn
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Now, if they want to get Tara Reid to do the tracing....I'm sure grumps would change his mind.
I hope you are right. Some parts of the 21st century I really hate.Our Mayor here DECREED it from on high as a REQUIREMENT that any customer who is in a business longer than 10 minutes MUST give their personal contact info to the business.Yup, our mayor tried it here and was roundly rebuked
"On Tuesday, Gov. Jay Inslee announced a contact tracing program to track who has the virus, where they've been, and who they've been in contact with. With contact tracing, the state hopes to speed up the isolation and quarantining processes and slow the spread of the virus.
Now, after critics raised privacy concerns, the governor is walking back a requirement that customers must give their contact information to the businesses they visit."
Inslee Walks Back Mandatory Contact Tracing Logs For Customers
New regulations from the governor say customers can decline to give their information to businesses they visit in Phase 2.patch.com
Mayors have next to no power to institute this. Google/Apple (Android/I-Phone) are working with the CDC on it. If she/he wanted to install it tomorrow, they couldn't do it.
Soon it will be part of the contract you sign when you renew your cell phone contract.
A week or so later he had to walk it back because of the outrage.
That and he probably was talking out of his buttocks since most cell phones don't have the technology yet, the bluetooth ramifications are completely untested, and, oh yeah, there is nobody to follow up on the back end once you collect this data.
A snipet:
View attachment 339315
Nobody in their right mind is going to download the APP unless forced to do so for their job. So it's going to be put into the source coding and run in the background. That is what Google/Apple are working on right now. You will comply. Resistance is futile.
The bluetooth is even more problematic. Someone in the next room or business or apartment can theoretically connect to your phone if they had the credentials. A guy with his cell phone in a car driving by outside of the convenience store where you buy your dinner may be infected and be known to the Public Health Authorities but because of the bluetooth connection, it reads as you having interacted with him even though you were inside the store and never saw the dude.
Then once the data is collected, what then? Most state health departments don't have the manpower to contact every cell phone number of the people who were "exposed" to the guy in the car.
Your mayor was speaking out of his buttocks on this one.
Remodeling Maidiac
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No, he wasn't. He expected businesses to photocopy your id. He expected customers to give up their info upon request.
candycorn
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Yeah... that won't be an option. It will be running in the background, pinging off cell towers and what not. Blue Tooth is the contact part. Meaning that the guy driving by won't pair with your phone. But you can be "placed" at the convenience store and therefore read as an exposure if the authorities wanted to go that far.
The trick (from their standpoint) is to know that the GPS on your phone is inside a building and the GPS on the guy in the car's phone is outside the building thus eliminating the need for a contact trace.
I'm sure the engineers are smart but are they THAT smart? Probably not.
Remodeling Maidiac
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The info would be stored in a database just waiting to be breached or sold.I hope you are right. Some parts of the 21st century I really hate.Our Mayor here DECREED it from on high as a REQUIREMENT that any customer who is in a business longer than 10 minutes MUST give their personal contact info to the business.Yup, our mayor tried it here and was roundly rebuked
"On Tuesday, Gov. Jay Inslee announced a contact tracing program to track who has the virus, where they've been, and who they've been in contact with. With contact tracing, the state hopes to speed up the isolation and quarantining processes and slow the spread of the virus.
Now, after critics raised privacy concerns, the governor is walking back a requirement that customers must give their contact information to the businesses they visit."
Inslee Walks Back Mandatory Contact Tracing Logs For Customers
New regulations from the governor say customers can decline to give their information to businesses they visit in Phase 2.
Mayors have next to no power to institute this. Google/Apple (Android/I-Phone) are working with the CDC on it. If she/he wanted to install it tomorrow, they couldn't do it.
Soon it will be part of the contract you sign when you renew your cell phone contract.
A week or so later he had to walk it back because of the outrage.
That and he probably was talking out of his buttocks since most cell phones don't have the technology yet, the bluetooth ramifications are completely untested, and, oh yeah, there is nobody to follow up on the back end once you collect this data.
A snipet:
View attachment 339315
Nobody in their right mind is going to download the APP unless forced to do so for their job. So it's going to be put into the source coding and run in the background. That is what Google/Apple are working on right now. You will comply. Resistance is futile.
The bluetooth is even more problematic. Someone in the next room or business or apartment can theoretically connect to your phone if they had the credentials. A guy with his cell phone in a car driving by outside of the convenience store where you buy your dinner may be infected and be known to the Public Health Authorities but because of the bluetooth connection, it reads as you having interacted with him even though you were inside the store and never saw the dude.
Then once the data is collected, what then? Most state health departments don't have the manpower to contact every cell phone number of the people who were "exposed" to the guy in the car.
Your mayor was speaking out of his buttocks on this one.
Google would love for this kind of invasion of privacy to be mandated.
candycorn
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*eyeroll*
Okay...then what.
The 500 people who visit Home Depot or Wal*Mart are going to get a phone call from whom? The 5 person city health department?
candycorn
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Wait until scammers begin to flood people's cellphones with messages that you've been exposed....The info would be stored in a database just waiting to be breached or sold.I hope you are right. Some parts of the 21st century I really hate.Our Mayor here DECREED it from on high as a REQUIREMENT that any customer who is in a business longer than 10 minutes MUST give their personal contact info to the business.Yup, our mayor tried it here and was roundly rebuked
"On Tuesday, Gov. Jay Inslee announced a contact tracing program to track who has the virus, where they've been, and who they've been in contact with. With contact tracing, the state hopes to speed up the isolation and quarantining processes and slow the spread of the virus.
Now, after critics raised privacy concerns, the governor is walking back a requirement that customers must give their contact information to the businesses they visit."
Inslee Walks Back Mandatory Contact Tracing Logs For Customers
New regulations from the governor say customers can decline to give their information to businesses they visit in Phase 2.
Mayors have next to no power to institute this. Google/Apple (Android/I-Phone) are working with the CDC on it. If she/he wanted to install it tomorrow, they couldn't do it.
Soon it will be part of the contract you sign when you renew your cell phone contract.
A week or so later he had to walk it back because of the outrage.
That and he probably was talking out of his buttocks since most cell phones don't have the technology yet, the bluetooth ramifications are completely untested, and, oh yeah, there is nobody to follow up on the back end once you collect this data.
A snipet:
View attachment 339315
Nobody in their right mind is going to download the APP unless forced to do so for their job. So it's going to be put into the source coding and run in the background. That is what Google/Apple are working on right now. You will comply. Resistance is futile.
The bluetooth is even more problematic. Someone in the next room or business or apartment can theoretically connect to your phone if they had the credentials. A guy with his cell phone in a car driving by outside of the convenience store where you buy your dinner may be infected and be known to the Public Health Authorities but because of the bluetooth connection, it reads as you having interacted with him even though you were inside the store and never saw the dude.
Then once the data is collected, what then? Most state health departments don't have the manpower to contact every cell phone number of the people who were "exposed" to the guy in the car.
Your mayor was speaking out of his buttocks on this one.
Google would love for this kind of invasion of privacy to be mandated.
Remodeling Maidiac
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We may need 300,000 contact tracers to defeat COVID-19. We have 2,200
Contact-tracing capacity is seen as critical to stopping transmission of disease.
arstechnica.com
Remodeling Maidiac
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Already happeningWait until scammers begin to flood people's cellphones with messages that you've been exposed....The info would be stored in a database just waiting to be breached or sold.I hope you are right. Some parts of the 21st century I really hate.Our Mayor here DECREED it from on high as a REQUIREMENT that any customer who is in a business longer than 10 minutes MUST give their personal contact info to the business.Yup, our mayor tried it here and was roundly rebuked
"On Tuesday, Gov. Jay Inslee announced a contact tracing program to track who has the virus, where they've been, and who they've been in contact with. With contact tracing, the state hopes to speed up the isolation and quarantining processes and slow the spread of the virus.
Now, after critics raised privacy concerns, the governor is walking back a requirement that customers must give their contact information to the businesses they visit."
Inslee Walks Back Mandatory Contact Tracing Logs For Customers
New regulations from the governor say customers can decline to give their information to businesses they visit in Phase 2.
Mayors have next to no power to institute this. Google/Apple (Android/I-Phone) are working with the CDC on it. If she/he wanted to install it tomorrow, they couldn't do it.
Soon it will be part of the contract you sign when you renew your cell phone contract.
A week or so later he had to walk it back because of the outrage.
That and he probably was talking out of his buttocks since most cell phones don't have the technology yet, the bluetooth ramifications are completely untested, and, oh yeah, there is nobody to follow up on the back end once you collect this data.
A snipet:
View attachment 339315
Nobody in their right mind is going to download the APP unless forced to do so for their job. So it's going to be put into the source coding and run in the background. That is what Google/Apple are working on right now. You will comply. Resistance is futile.
The bluetooth is even more problematic. Someone in the next room or business or apartment can theoretically connect to your phone if they had the credentials. A guy with his cell phone in a car driving by outside of the convenience store where you buy your dinner may be infected and be known to the Public Health Authorities but because of the bluetooth connection, it reads as you having interacted with him even though you were inside the store and never saw the dude.
Then once the data is collected, what then? Most state health departments don't have the manpower to contact every cell phone number of the people who were "exposed" to the guy in the car.
Your mayor was speaking out of his buttocks on this one.
Google would love for this kind of invasion of privacy to be mandated.
I was thinking great opportunity for hackers, scammers.Wait until scammers begin to flood people's cellphones with messages that you've been exposed....The info would be stored in a database just waiting to be breached or sold.I hope you are right. Some parts of the 21st century I really hate.Our Mayor here DECREED it from on high as a REQUIREMENT that any customer who is in a business longer than 10 minutes MUST give their personal contact info to the business.Yup, our mayor tried it here and was roundly rebuked
"On Tuesday, Gov. Jay Inslee announced a contact tracing program to track who has the virus, where they've been, and who they've been in contact with. With contact tracing, the state hopes to speed up the isolation and quarantining processes and slow the spread of the virus.
Now, after critics raised privacy concerns, the governor is walking back a requirement that customers must give their contact information to the businesses they visit."
Inslee Walks Back Mandatory Contact Tracing Logs For Customers
New regulations from the governor say customers can decline to give their information to businesses they visit in Phase 2.
Mayors have next to no power to institute this. Google/Apple (Android/I-Phone) are working with the CDC on it. If she/he wanted to install it tomorrow, they couldn't do it.
Soon it will be part of the contract you sign when you renew your cell phone contract.
A week or so later he had to walk it back because of the outrage.
That and he probably was talking out of his buttocks since most cell phones don't have the technology yet, the bluetooth ramifications are completely untested, and, oh yeah, there is nobody to follow up on the back end once you collect this data.
A snipet:
View attachment 339315
Nobody in their right mind is going to download the APP unless forced to do so for their job. So it's going to be put into the source coding and run in the background. That is what Google/Apple are working on right now. You will comply. Resistance is futile.
The bluetooth is even more problematic. Someone in the next room or business or apartment can theoretically connect to your phone if they had the credentials. A guy with his cell phone in a car driving by outside of the convenience store where you buy your dinner may be infected and be known to the Public Health Authorities but because of the bluetooth connection, it reads as you having interacted with him even though you were inside the store and never saw the dude.
Then once the data is collected, what then? Most state health departments don't have the manpower to contact every cell phone number of the people who were "exposed" to the guy in the car.
Your mayor was speaking out of his buttocks on this one.
Google would love for this kind of invasion of privacy to be mandated.
candycorn
Diamond Member
We may need 300,000 contact tracers to defeat COVID-19. We have 2,200
Contact-tracing capacity is seen as critical to stopping transmission of disease.
Precisely.... again, your mayor was talking out of his buttocks if he was talking about contract tracing on an enterprise scale.
candycorn
Diamond Member
Gold Rush sized potential.I was thinking great opportunity for hackers, scammers.Wait until scammers begin to flood people's cellphones with messages that you've been exposed....The info would be stored in a database just waiting to be breached or sold.I hope you are right. Some parts of the 21st century I really hate.Our Mayor here DECREED it from on high as a REQUIREMENT that any customer who is in a business longer than 10 minutes MUST give their personal contact info to the business.Yup, our mayor tried it here and was roundly rebuked
"On Tuesday, Gov. Jay Inslee announced a contact tracing program to track who has the virus, where they've been, and who they've been in contact with. With contact tracing, the state hopes to speed up the isolation and quarantining processes and slow the spread of the virus.
Now, after critics raised privacy concerns, the governor is walking back a requirement that customers must give their contact information to the businesses they visit."
Inslee Walks Back Mandatory Contact Tracing Logs For Customers
New regulations from the governor say customers can decline to give their information to businesses they visit in Phase 2.
Mayors have next to no power to institute this. Google/Apple (Android/I-Phone) are working with the CDC on it. If she/he wanted to install it tomorrow, they couldn't do it.
Soon it will be part of the contract you sign when you renew your cell phone contract.
A week or so later he had to walk it back because of the outrage.
That and he probably was talking out of his buttocks since most cell phones don't have the technology yet, the bluetooth ramifications are completely untested, and, oh yeah, there is nobody to follow up on the back end once you collect this data.
A snipet:
View attachment 339315
Nobody in their right mind is going to download the APP unless forced to do so for their job. So it's going to be put into the source coding and run in the background. That is what Google/Apple are working on right now. You will comply. Resistance is futile.
The bluetooth is even more problematic. Someone in the next room or business or apartment can theoretically connect to your phone if they had the credentials. A guy with his cell phone in a car driving by outside of the convenience store where you buy your dinner may be infected and be known to the Public Health Authorities but because of the bluetooth connection, it reads as you having interacted with him even though you were inside the store and never saw the dude.
Then once the data is collected, what then? Most state health departments don't have the manpower to contact every cell phone number of the people who were "exposed" to the guy in the car.
Your mayor was speaking out of his buttocks on this one.
Google would love for this kind of invasion of privacy to be mandated.
Deplorable Yankee
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Don't get tested at all unless its completely private
I went into county clerk today to straighten out a minor **** up....I had to have a mask on ...they took my temperature and everyone in the place was a fat karen
Uh boy the lady controlling the front door she had a uniform on
She asked me have you had a headache ,lose taste or smell , been in contact with anyone who has had it,,,had any diarrhea lol
Me being me said well let me tell ya about my explosive diarreah
she did not find that amusing at all
and I had to insist I was just kiddingWhen I asked are you serious about the tempature
Was she ever
It took me LONGER to get past Karen the nazi than at the counter to get a rubber stamp on a piece of paper
Remodeling Maidiac
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I have no reason to get tested. I am not sick. I don't make a habit of wasting medical resources or money for no reason.
Deplorable Yankee
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I'm curious to see if I have the antibodies since I may of had it in Dec
I did come back from NYC end nov
night_son
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Excellent post. You hit the bull's-eye from 1500 meters out. Now the question begs: what will Americans do about it? Something like 65% of adult Americans surrendered their livelihoods, Constitutional Rights, freedom of movement . . . all in the span of less than a week. In other words, most Americans have already gone quietly into the night without so much as squeak of real resistance. After a "vaccine" is released a similar number of Americans will step right up. So tell me, sir, what is the value of knowing the truth when one is force marched down the road to extinction?
Missouri_Mike
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Are you seriously approving of all this?Our Mayor here DECREED it from on high as a REQUIREMENT that any customer who is in a business longer than 10 minutes MUST give their personal contact info to the business.Yup, our mayor tried it here and was roundly rebuked
"On Tuesday, Gov. Jay Inslee announced a contact tracing program to track who has the virus, where they've been, and who they've been in contact with. With contact tracing, the state hopes to speed up the isolation and quarantining processes and slow the spread of the virus.
Now, after critics raised privacy concerns, the governor is walking back a requirement that customers must give their contact information to the businesses they visit."
Inslee Walks Back Mandatory Contact Tracing Logs For Customers
New regulations from the governor say customers can decline to give their information to businesses they visit in Phase 2.
Mayors have next to no power to institute this. Google/Apple (Android/I-Phone) are working with the CDC on it. If she/he wanted to install it tomorrow, they couldn't do it.
Soon it will be part of the contract you sign when you renew your cell phone contract.
A week or so later he had to walk it back because of the outrage.
That and he probably was talking out of his buttocks since most cell phones don't have the technology yet, the bluetooth ramifications are completely untested, and, oh yeah, there is nobody to follow up on the back end once you collect this data.
A snipet:
View attachment 339315
Nobody in their right mind is going to download the APP unless forced to do so for their job. So it's going to be put into the source coding and run in the background. That is what Google/Apple are working on right now. You will comply. Resistance is futile.
The bluetooth is even more problematic. Someone in the next room or business or apartment can theoretically connect to your phone if they had the credentials. A guy with his cell phone in a car driving by outside of the convenience store where you buy your dinner may be infected and be known to the Public Health Authorities but because of the bluetooth connection, it reads as you having interacted with him even though you were inside the store and never saw the dude.
Then once the data is collected, what then? Most state health departments don't have the manpower to contact every cell phone number of the people who were "exposed" to the guy in the car.
Your mayor was speaking out of his buttocks on this one.
candycorn
Diamond Member
Are you seriously approving of all this?Our Mayor here DECREED it from on high as a REQUIREMENT that any customer who is in a business longer than 10 minutes MUST give their personal contact info to the business.Yup, our mayor tried it here and was roundly rebuked
"On Tuesday, Gov. Jay Inslee announced a contact tracing program to track who has the virus, where they've been, and who they've been in contact with. With contact tracing, the state hopes to speed up the isolation and quarantining processes and slow the spread of the virus.
Now, after critics raised privacy concerns, the governor is walking back a requirement that customers must give their contact information to the businesses they visit."
Inslee Walks Back Mandatory Contact Tracing Logs For Customers
New regulations from the governor say customers can decline to give their information to businesses they visit in Phase 2.
Mayors have next to no power to institute this. Google/Apple (Android/I-Phone) are working with the CDC on it. If she/he wanted to install it tomorrow, they couldn't do it.
Soon it will be part of the contract you sign when you renew your cell phone contract.
A week or so later he had to walk it back because of the outrage.
That and he probably was talking out of his buttocks since most cell phones don't have the technology yet, the bluetooth ramifications are completely untested, and, oh yeah, there is nobody to follow up on the back end once you collect this data.
A snipet:
View attachment 339315
Nobody in their right mind is going to download the APP unless forced to do so for their job. So it's going to be put into the source coding and run in the background. That is what Google/Apple are working on right now. You will comply. Resistance is futile.
The bluetooth is even more problematic. Someone in the next room or business or apartment can theoretically connect to your phone if they had the credentials. A guy with his cell phone in a car driving by outside of the convenience store where you buy your dinner may be infected and be known to the Public Health Authorities but because of the bluetooth connection, it reads as you having interacted with him even though you were inside the store and never saw the dude.
Then once the data is collected, what then? Most state health departments don't have the manpower to contact every cell phone number of the people who were "exposed" to the guy in the car.
Your mayor was speaking out of his buttocks on this one.
Approving? No. Understanding it's the next thing? Yes and that it's going to happen...yes. Snickering at the guys beating their chest saying "I will never agree to this"? Definitely. The same guys resisted seat belts.
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