Zone1 new NATO 'boss' Mark Rutte : NATO defense budget to 3% of GDP please..

[GavanPeacefan]

Not only that. You let your armies be flushed down the sewage. They are not fit even for military parades anymore.

hubris.

 

[GavanPeacefan]

 

[ESay]

hubris.

Reality. You have become too irrelevant. And there is nothing in sight that can change this in any foreseeable future.

 

[GavanPeacefan]

Reality. You have become too irrelevant. And there is nothing in sight that can change this in any foreseeable future.

BS. you know NOTHING about the EU's toughness. ha ha ha, i'd almost go.
but i won't.

we know every martial arts on the planet, here in the EU.

in ways that can QUICKLY be applied to a draft army.

 

[GavanPeacefan]

 

[GavanPeacefan]

OK, i know you commies are always hungry for full disclosure during negotiations. better not go stabbing us in the back, though.
we Europeans are as fierce as the Spartans themselves were at some points in history.

Cheetah Kung-Fu - Founder's homepage

hi. I'm Rene, founder of the Cheetah Kung-Fu style (at least i havent heard anyone else use that name, yet).. I'm also a computer-programmer, CTO, CEO and Owner of the websites https://nicer.app and https://said.by, and my fb is at https://facebook.com/rene.veerman.90 :) i've uploaded some...

is.gd

https://ugsv.nl (i'm a graduate of part 4 there - about 2 years of real world training)

and of course i know a fair bit of Nin Jistu, which has armlocks (while standing, easy for transporting suspects) that are far safer than the choking headlock of Jiu-Jitsu.

as well as Russian Systema
for instance
and they have an international network of real world schools as well

and several other styles, or at least their basic opening moves and counters.
never be foolish enough to let your adversaries know everything about you.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Europe must adopt ‘wartime mindset’ to stop Putin, says Nato chief

Russian president wants to ‘wipe Ukraine off the map’ and could target other European countries next, says Mark Rutte

www.theguardian.com

hi, i'm here to inquire about opinions.
i was hoping for something like a 50% increase, not a 100% one.
the populations of North-America and the EU have been suffering extremely high consumer costs for a while now,
and i think that deserves more of our immediate attention than this excursion into true saber-rattling and warmongering.

how about you?

Bearanoia

The Eurine Union Russophobes will have to spend a lot more than 3% if Trump gets us out of the NYETO entangling alliance.

 

[ESay]

BS. you know NOTHING about the EU's toughness. ha ha ha, i'd almost go.
but i won't.

we know every martial arts on the planet, here in the EU.

in ways that can QUICKLY be applied to a draft army.

Maybe, but I haven't seen this toughness anywhere in my life. The Dutch troops did nothing in Bosnia and Rwanda to prevent genocides there. So, I don't buy these talks.

 

[ESay]

OK, i know you commies are always hungry for full disclosure during negotiations. better not go stabbing us in the back, though.
we Europeans are as fierce as the Spartans themselves were at some points in history.

Cheetah Kung-Fu - Founder's homepage

hi. I'm Rene, founder of the Cheetah Kung-Fu style (at least i havent heard anyone else use that name, yet).. I'm also a computer-programmer, CTO, CEO and Owner of the websites https://nicer.app and https://said.by, and my fb is at https://facebook.com/rene.veerman.90 :) i've uploaded some...

is.gd

https://ugsv.nl (i'm a graduate of part 4 there - about 2 years of real world training)

I bet Mortimer is a grand master there.

 

[GavanPeacefan]

Maybe, but I haven't seen this toughness anywhere in my life. The Dutch troops did nothing in Bosnia and Rwanda to prevent genocides there. So, I don't buy these talks.

well here in NL we have a mixed population (by design) in our neighborhoods, but some are tougher than others, that's for sure.

thing is, i used to walk through every area of Amsterdam.NL late at night as some kinda ninja sport, it was quite fun with a pirate portable mp3 player
and i noticed that indeed some streets are empty, others have packs of kickboxers walking around smoking joints, and sometimes they have a low tolerance for the tough white nightwalker with almost shaved head (they are usually 3rd generation immigrants btw). it led me to a bunch of near fights. not even our kickboxers are to be messed with man.
let alone the real martial artists. who take it right to the life-and-death level if you know what i mean.

and fact is, we ARE, all over the world btw, teaching our kids in a very draft-compatible manner.
I THINK IT'S ABOUT TIME THAT CHANGED BY WORLD-WIDE DECREE!!!

 

[ESay]

well here in NL we have a mixed population (by design) in our neighborhoods, but some are tougher than others, that's for sure.

thing is, i used to walk through every area of Amsterdam.NL late at night as some kinda ninja sport, it was quite fun with a pirate portable mp3 player
and i noticed that indeed some streets are empty, others have packs of kickboxers walking around smoking joints, and sometimes they have a low tolerance for the tough white nightwalker with almost shaved head (they are usually 3rd generation immigrants btw). it led me to a bunch of near fights. not even our kickboxers are to be messed with man.
let alone the real martial artists. who take it right to the life-and-death level if you know what i mean.

and fact is, we ARE, all over the world btw, teaching our kids in a very draft-compatible manner.
I THINK IT'S ABOUT TIME THAT CHANGED BY WORLD-WIDE DECREE!!!

Maybe you will try to travel to the Middle East and try your martial arts there?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

OK, i know you commies are always hungry for full disclosure during negotiations. better not go stabbing us in the back, though.
we Europeans are as fierce as the Spartans themselves were at some points in history.

Cheetah Kung-Fu - Founder's homepage

hi. I'm Rene, founder of the Cheetah Kung-Fu style (at least i havent heard anyone else use that name, yet).. I'm also a computer-programmer, CTO, CEO and Owner of the websites https://nicer.app and https://said.by, and my fb is at https://facebook.com/rene.veerman.90 :) i've uploaded some...

is.gd

https://ugsv.nl (i'm a graduate of part 4 there - about 2 years of real world training)

and of course i know a fair bit of Nin Jistu, which has armlocks (while standing, easy for transporting suspects) that are far safer than the choking headlock of Jiu-Jitsu.

as well as Russian Systema
for instance
and they have an international network of real world schools as well

and several other styles, or at least their basic opening moves and counters.
never be foolish enough to let your adversaries know everything about you.

The Dutch? Not Much!

Quit being doormats depending on others to give their lives saving your unnecessarily vulnerable country from obvious threats. You have a lot of gold but no guts. Remember Egmont.

 

[GavanPeacefan]

Maybe you will try to travel to the Middle East and try your martial arts there?

no thanks. i'm a Christian. i'd better just stay in the country that i chose to incarnate into this lifetime around.

 

[GavanPeacefan]

The Dutch? Not Much!

Quit being doormats depending on others to give their lives saving your unnecessarily vulnerable country from obvious threats. You have a lot of gold but no guts. Remember Egmont.

link please?

 

[ESay]

no thanks. i'm a Christian. i'd better just stay in the country that i chose to incarnate into this lifetime around.

That's okay. But guys from there aren't too shy to move to your country and cause some troubles there.

 

[GavanPeacefan]

That's okay. But guys from there aren't too shy to move to your country and cause some troubles there.

we're well aware of that.
we'll have them here in The Netherlands act like responsible adults, even during their youth, within 1 or 2 generation(s), by my current estimation

 

[Mortimer]

I bet Mortimer is a grand master there.

Why

 

[AZrailwhale]

peacefan

US has become an unreliable partner with constant shifts in political stances.
EU can’t depend on the US being there for them

They are the ones under a direct threat and should increase spending for their own defense

I disagree with your first point, but fully agree with your second. Europe needs to stop depending on the USA for defense while competing with us economically.

 

[eagle1462010]

Europe must adopt ‘wartime mindset’ to stop Putin, says Nato chief

Russian president wants to ‘wipe Ukraine off the map’ and could target other European countries next, says Mark Rutte

www.theguardian.com

hi, i'm here to inquire about opinions.
i was hoping for something like a 50% increase, not a 100% one.
the populations of North-America and the EU have been suffering extremely high consumer costs for a while now,
and i think that deserves more of our immediate attention than this excursion into true saber-rattling and warmongering.

how about you?

When they saber rattle they must back it up.

Poland is the 2nd largest military in EU NATO with about 262,000 soldiers moving to 300,000.

Much smaller populations than countries like Germany.

Time for them to cowboy the **** up and stop depending on the US with over 2 million forces

 

[sparky]

how about you?

war pigs profit through fear......~S~