New evidence further indicates Capitol attack was pre-planned, puts kink in Trump impeachment trial

[Tom Paine 1949]

Obviously, most of the Trump supporters here are simply refusing to follow the televised Senate debates — not even the really pathetic Trump lawyer’s arguments. Trump supporters will not likely follow the trial at all. This is a pity, as the Constitutional issues are clear and important, quite unlike in the first Trump impeachment.

Trump’s main lawyer appeared remarkably incoherent, as even Professor Dershowitz dismissively noted on TV. The great majority of Constitutional lawyers, including in the Federalist society and among Trump appointees and Conservative judges, seem to agree that Trump absolutely can be legally tried and convicted by the Senate. This was made quite clear in the House Managers presentations.

Even right-wing pundits had no clue what Bruce Castor was doing during his impeachment trial speech

"I have no idea what he is doing," Alan Dershowitz said.

www.vox.com

Of course most Republican Senators seem not to give a damn about a lame duck President of their own party — clearly defeated in an election where electoral votes where confirmed by 50 individual states (and appeals roundly rejected by our courts) — unrepentantly cavorting while his followers fought their way into a joint session of Congress to keep him illegally in power.

If Trump is not roundly repudiated, our country may just continue down the drain, as mobs, politicians and domestic terrorists increasingly feel emboldened to try to violently influence political decisions at the highest levels.

 

[schmidlap]

New evidence further indicates Capitol attack was pre-planned​

Trump had invited his goons to Washington to spew his lies at them, and his kvetching jamboree was timed to coincide with Congress fulfilling its Constitutional duty. Trump wee wee'd up his goons with his lies, then deployed them to the Capitol to sabotage the democratic process.

The partisan outcome of the trial is not in question, but it is serving to educate the public, and, so far, the Loser's defense stinks.

Sen. Bill Cassidy on Tuesday said Trump's legal team did a "terrible job" defending Trump against the constitutionality of moving forward with a Senate hearing. The Louisiana Republican broke with most of his party in voting to proceed with Trump's historic second impeachment.​

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"Trump's team were disorganized. They did everything they could but to talk about the question at hand. And when they talked about it, they kind of glided over almost as if they were embarrassed," Cassidy said, noting that the House impeachment managers had presented a clear, constitutionally-grounded argument to move forward with impeachment.​

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"One side's doing a great job. And the other side's doing a terrible job on the issue at hand."​

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GOP Senator: Trump's Lawyers Did A 'Terrible Job' On 1st Day Of Trial

Louisiana Sen. Bill Cassidy criticized Trump's legal team as having bungled the argument against the constitutionality of the impeachment trial. Other Republican lawmakers agreed.

www.npr.org

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Wouldn't it be great if Loser came out of hiding and appeared at his trial to finally present all his "evidence" of a fake election?

"Everybody who swallows
my crap gets a free pillow!"​

 

[Godboy]

Trying to make the case that Trump was somehow ignorant of the Qanon prophecy that he was going to seize control of the government? Not much chance of that.

They preplanned the attack openly on QAnon? What the fuck are you talking about?

 

[occupied]

Trying to make the case that Trump was somehow ignorant of the Qanon prophecy that he was going to seize control of the government? Not much chance of that.

They preplanned the attack openly on QAnon? What the fuck are you talking about?

There was actually a well publicized plan in place. Trump was going to stay president no matter what it takes and then finally start executing all the pedophile democrats and celebrities. There is no way on earth narcissist Trump was ignorant of exactly how the Qbots saw him and everything they believed. They went to violently overturn the election at his orders. It's either that or he is retarded, take your pick.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

N

Wouldn't surprise me at all. Trump had been firing these people up for four years.

These people showed up in a rage and gripped by paranoia, ready to "fight" and "save their country", as he instructed.

On the 6th, he let them loose. That's the whole point here.

We had YEARS of REAL violence thanks to people like her on the left. 30+dead, billions in property damage, countless businesses permanently ruined, endless fires in some cities....

When will her impeachment be? When will the others be impeached?

A few weeks ago when that gop woman refused to be searched for weapons before entering congress you all called her a "threat" NOW NANCY PELOSI HAS DONE THE SAME THING. When are your media masters going to label Pelosi a threat?


So fucking tired of y'alls asinine double standards then quick revisionist history when called on it.

fyi-
Congressmen and Senators can not be impeached.

Not the point but glad to see you took the easy out.

Coward of no conviction

 

[candycorn]

 

[Godboy]

Trying to make the case that Trump was somehow ignorant of the Qanon prophecy that he was going to seize control of the government? Not much chance of that.

They preplanned the attack openly on QAnon? What the fuck are you talking about?

There was actually a well publicized plan in place. Trump was going to stay president no matter what it takes and then finally start executing all the pedophile democrats and celebrities. There is no way on earth narcissist Trump was ignorant of exactly how the Qbots saw him and everything they believed. They went to violently overturn the election at his orders. It's either that or he is retarded, take your pick.

Neat conspiracy theory. Now prove it.

 

[Care4all]

N

Wouldn't surprise me at all. Trump had been firing these people up for four years.

These people showed up in a rage and gripped by paranoia, ready to "fight" and "save their country", as he instructed.

On the 6th, he let them loose. That's the whole point here.

We had YEARS of REAL violence thanks to people like her on the left. 30+dead, billions in property damage, countless businesses permanently ruined, endless fires in some cities....

When will her impeachment be? When will the others be impeached?

A few weeks ago when that gop woman refused to be searched for weapons before entering congress you all called her a "threat" NOW NANCY PELOSI HAS DONE THE SAME THING. When are your media masters going to label Pelosi a threat?


So fucking tired of y'alls asinine double standards then quick revisionist history when called on it.

fyi-
Congressmen and Senators can not be impeached.

Not the point but glad to see you took the easy out.

Coward of no conviction

I'm not a coward. When Maxine made her comments, I spoke out against them.

When rioters hijacked the blm protests, I spoke out against the rioters and thugs.

What they have to do with this Trump coup attempt at our Capitol to keep Trump in power, is what I do not understand? I see no, zero, zip, zilch comparison between the two, other than both had thugs, mixed with good people in the far ground.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

N

Wouldn't surprise me at all. Trump had been firing these people up for four years.

These people showed up in a rage and gripped by paranoia, ready to "fight" and "save their country", as he instructed.

On the 6th, he let them loose. That's the whole point here.

We had YEARS of REAL violence thanks to people like her on the left. 30+dead, billions in property damage, countless businesses permanently ruined, endless fires in some cities....

When will her impeachment be? When will the others be impeached?

A few weeks ago when that gop woman refused to be searched for weapons before entering congress you all called her a "threat" NOW NANCY PELOSI HAS DONE THE SAME THING. When are your media masters going to label Pelosi a threat?


So fucking tired of y'alls asinine double standards then quick revisionist history when called on it.

fyi-
Congressmen and Senators can not be impeached.

Not the point but glad to see you took the easy out.

Coward of no conviction

I'm not a coward. When Maxine made her comments, I spoke out against them.

When rioters hijacked the blm protests, I spoke out against the rioters and thugs.

What they have to do with this Trump coup attempt at our Capitol to keep Trump in power, is what I do not understand? I see no, zero, zip, zilch comparison between the two, other than both had thugs, mixed with good people in the far ground.

They're all the same. End results may vary but it's all the same. Chaos, conflict. Location is irrelevant.

 

[Quasar44]

Obviously, most of the Trump supporters here are simply refusing to follow the televised Senate debates — not even the really pathetic Trump lawyer’s arguments. Trump supporters will not likely follow the trial at all. This is a pity, as the Constitutional issues are clear and important, quite unlike in the first Trump impeachment.

Trump’s main lawyer appeared remarkably incoherent, as even Professor Dershowitz dismissively noted on TV. The great majority of Constitutional lawyers, including in the Federalist society and among Trump appointees and Conservative judges, seem to agree that Trump absolutely can be legally tried and convicted by the Senate. This was made quite clear in the House Managers presentations.

Even right-wing pundits had no clue what Bruce Castor was doing during his impeachment trial speech

"I have no idea what he is doing," Alan Dershowitz said.

www.vox.com

Of course most Republican Senators seem not to give a damn about a lame duck President of their own party — clearly defeated in an election where electoral votes where confirmed by 50 individual states (and appeals roundly rejected by our courts) — unrepentantly cavorting while his followers fought their way into a joint session of Congress to keep him illegally in power.

If Trump is not roundly repudiated, our country may just continue down the drain, as mobs, politicians and domestic terrorists increasingly feel emboldened to try to violently influence political decisions at the highest levels.

Fake evidence !!
Zero evidence of that you CNN polyp

 

[Care4all]

N

Wouldn't surprise me at all. Trump had been firing these people up for four years.

These people showed up in a rage and gripped by paranoia, ready to "fight" and "save their country", as he instructed.

On the 6th, he let them loose. That's the whole point here.

We had YEARS of REAL violence thanks to people like her on the left. 30+dead, billions in property damage, countless businesses permanently ruined, endless fires in some cities....

When will her impeachment be? When will the others be impeached?

A few weeks ago when that gop woman refused to be searched for weapons before entering congress you all called her a "threat" NOW NANCY PELOSI HAS DONE THE SAME THING. When are your media masters going to label Pelosi a threat?


So fucking tired of y'alls asinine double standards then quick revisionist history when called on it.

fyi-
Congressmen and Senators can not be impeached.

Not the point but glad to see you took the easy out.

Coward of no conviction

I'm not a coward. When Maxine made her comments, I spoke out against them.

When rioters hijacked the blm protests, I spoke out against the rioters and thugs.

What they have to do with this Trump coup attempt at our Capitol to keep Trump in power, is what I do not understand? I see no, zero, zip, zilch comparison between the two, other than both had thugs, mixed with good people in the far ground.

They're all the same. End results may vary but it's all the same. Chaos, conflict. Location is irrelevant.

Disagree, totally! What happened at the capitol, was sponsored by the President of the United States, was seeded by him and his lies, for weeks in advance and roused by him on Jan 6th in his speech.

Riots breaking out in the evenings and nights after peaceful blm protests, by advantageous thugs and looters were spontaneous, and not incited by any elected officials in advance, let alone, a President of the United States....for the political purpose of illegally usurping a win, from the winner...through breaking the constitution through interference in a mandatory, constitutional act.

 

[MeBelle]

Congressmen and Senators can not be impeached.

Not true.


U.S. Senate: Impeachment

 

[Turtlesoup]

Obviously, most of the Trump supporters here are simply refusing to follow the televised Senate debates — not even the really pathetic Trump lawyer’s arguments. Trump supporters will not likely follow the trial at all. This is a pity, as the Constitutional issues are clear and important, quite unlike in the first Trump impeachment.

Trump’s main lawyer appeared remarkably incoherent, as even Professor Dershowitz dismissively noted on TV. The great majority of Constitutional lawyers, including in the Federalist society and among Trump appointees and Conservative judges, seem to agree that Trump absolutely can be legally tried and convicted by the Senate. This was made quite clear in the House Managers presentations.

Even right-wing pundits had no clue what Bruce Castor was doing during his impeachment trial speech

"I have no idea what he is doing," Alan Dershowitz said.

www.vox.com

Of course most Republican Senators seem not to give a damn about a lame duck President of their own party — clearly defeated in an election where electoral votes where confirmed by 50 individual states (and appeals roundly rejected by our courts) — unrepentantly cavorting while his followers fought their way into a joint session of Congress to keep him illegally in power.

If Trump is not roundly repudiated, our country may just continue down the drain, as mobs, politicians and domestic terrorists increasingly feel emboldened to try to violently influence political decisions at the highest levels.

What the hell do you think was going on with the summer of love riots and burning down of cities last year?

 

[August West]

Obviously, most of the Trump supporters here are simply refusing to follow the televised Senate debates — not even the really pathetic Trump lawyer’s arguments. Trump supporters will not likely follow the trial at all. This is a pity, as the Constitutional issues are clear and important, quite unlike in the first Trump impeachment.

Trump’s main lawyer appeared remarkably incoherent, as even Professor Dershowitz dismissively noted on TV. The great majority of Constitutional lawyers, including in the Federalist society and among Trump appointees and Conservative judges, seem to agree that Trump absolutely can be legally tried and convicted by the Senate. This was made quite clear in the House Managers presentations.

Even right-wing pundits had no clue what Bruce Castor was doing during his impeachment trial speech

"I have no idea what he is doing," Alan Dershowitz said.

www.vox.com

Of course most Republican Senators seem not to give a damn about a lame duck President of their own party — clearly defeated in an election where electoral votes where confirmed by 50 individual states (and appeals roundly rejected by our courts) — unrepentantly cavorting while his followers fought their way into a joint session of Congress to keep him illegally in power.

If Trump is not roundly repudiated, our country may just continue down the drain, as mobs, politicians and domestic terrorists increasingly feel emboldened to try to violently influence political decisions at the highest levels.

What the hell do you think was going on with the summer of love riots and burning down of cities last year?

Which cities were burned down?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Obviously, most of the Trump supporters here are simply refusing to follow the televised Senate debates — not even the really pathetic Trump lawyer’s arguments. Trump supporters will not likely follow the trial at all. This is a pity, as the Constitutional issues are clear and important, quite unlike in the first Trump impeachment.

Trump’s main lawyer appeared remarkably incoherent, as even Professor Dershowitz dismissively noted on TV. The great majority of Constitutional lawyers, including in the Federalist society and among Trump appointees and Conservative judges, seem to agree that Trump absolutely can be legally tried and convicted by the Senate. This was made quite clear in the House Managers presentations.

Even right-wing pundits had no clue what Bruce Castor was doing during his impeachment trial speech

"I have no idea what he is doing," Alan Dershowitz said.

www.vox.com

Of course most Republican Senators seem not to give a damn about a lame duck President of their own party — clearly defeated in an election where electoral votes where confirmed by 50 individual states (and appeals roundly rejected by our courts) — unrepentantly cavorting while his followers fought their way into a joint session of Congress to keep him illegally in power.

If Trump is not roundly repudiated, our country may just continue down the drain, as mobs, politicians and domestic terrorists increasingly feel emboldened to try to violently influence political decisions at the highest levels.

What the hell do you think was going on with the summer of love riots and burning down of cities last year?

Which cities were burned down?

LOL that's right play dumb now, Seattle and Portland STILL have riots going on after a year,

 

[Care4all]

Congressmen and Senators can not be impeached.

Not true.


U.S. Senate: Impeachment

It's called expulsion, in the house and Senate..... They do not get impeached, since 1797 try for senator blout...

A senator or house member being removed, does not get removed by impeachment, it's easier than impeachment, an Expulsion, which ONLY REQUIRES ONE part of congress to remove them, the part they are a member of....the House only, for house members expelled, and only the Senate, for Senate members to be expelled.

Expulsion from the United States Congress - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Expulsion is the most serious form of disciplinary action that can be taken against a Member of Congress.[1] The United States Constitution (Article I, Section 5, Clause 2) provides that "Each House [of Congress] may determine the Rules of its proceedings, punish its members for disorderly behavior, and, with the concurrence of two-thirds, expel a member." The processes for expulsion differ somewhat between the House of Representatives and the Senate.[2][clarification needed]

Censure, a less severe form of disciplinary action, is an official sanction of a member. It does not remove a member from office.

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Process leading to expulsion Edit
Presently, the disciplinary process begins when a resolution to expel or censure a Member is referred to the appropriate committee. In the House, this is the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct (House Ethics Committee); in the Senate, this is the Select Committee on Ethics (Senate Ethics Committee).

The committee may then ask other Representatives or Senators to come forward with complaints about the Member under consideration or may initiate an investigation into the Member's actions. Sometimes Members may refer a resolution calling for an investigation into a particular Member or matter that may lead to the recommendation of expulsion or censure.

Rule XI (Procedures of committees and unfinished business) of the Rules of the House of Representatives states that the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct can investigate allegations that a Member violated "any law, rule, regulation, or other standard of conduct applicable to the conduct of such Member ... in the performance of his duties or the discharge of his responsibilities". The Senate Select Committee on Ethics has the same jurisdiction. The committee may then report back to their whole chamber as to its findings and recommendations for further actions.

When an investigation is launched by either committee, an investigatory subcommittee will be formed. Once the investigatory subcommittee has collected evidence, talked to witnesses, and held an adjudicatory hearing, it will vote on whether the Member is found to have committed the specific actions and then will vote on recommendations. If expulsion is the recommendation then the subcommittee's report will be referred to the full House of Representatives or Senate where Members may vote to accept, reject, or alter the report's recommendation. Voting to expel requires the concurrence of two-thirds of the members. This is set out in Article 1, Section 5, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution.

Expulsions from Congress Edit
See also: List of United States representatives expelled, censured, or reprimanded and List of United States senators expelled or censured
In the entire history of the United States Congress, 20 Members have been expelled: 15 from the Senate and five from the House of Representatives. Of those, 17 of these 20 were expelled for supporting the Confederate rebellion in 1861 and 1862. One member's expulsion, Senator William K. Sebastian of Arkansas, was posthumously reversed. Censure has been a much more common form of disciplinary action in Congress over the years, as it requires a much lower threshold of votes to impose.

 

[August West]

Obviously, most of the Trump supporters here are simply refusing to follow the televised Senate debates — not even the really pathetic Trump lawyer’s arguments. Trump supporters will not likely follow the trial at all. This is a pity, as the Constitutional issues are clear and important, quite unlike in the first Trump impeachment.

Trump’s main lawyer appeared remarkably incoherent, as even Professor Dershowitz dismissively noted on TV. The great majority of Constitutional lawyers, including in the Federalist society and among Trump appointees and Conservative judges, seem to agree that Trump absolutely can be legally tried and convicted by the Senate. This was made quite clear in the House Managers presentations.

Even right-wing pundits had no clue what Bruce Castor was doing during his impeachment trial speech

"I have no idea what he is doing," Alan Dershowitz said.

www.vox.com

Of course most Republican Senators seem not to give a damn about a lame duck President of their own party — clearly defeated in an election where electoral votes where confirmed by 50 individual states (and appeals roundly rejected by our courts) — unrepentantly cavorting while his followers fought their way into a joint session of Congress to keep him illegally in power.

If Trump is not roundly repudiated, our country may just continue down the drain, as mobs, politicians and domestic terrorists increasingly feel emboldened to try to violently influence political decisions at the highest levels.

What the hell do you think was going on with the summer of love riots and burning down of cities last year?

Which cities were burned down?

LOL that's right play dumb now, Seattle and Portland STILL have riots going on after a year,

There`s a clear distinction between protests that turn into riots and riots that are planned, scheduled and incited by the president of the United States.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Obviously, most of the Trump supporters here are simply refusing to follow the televised Senate debates — not even the really pathetic Trump lawyer’s arguments. Trump supporters will not likely follow the trial at all. This is a pity, as the Constitutional issues are clear and important, quite unlike in the first Trump impeachment.

Trump’s main lawyer appeared remarkably incoherent, as even Professor Dershowitz dismissively noted on TV. The great majority of Constitutional lawyers, including in the Federalist society and among Trump appointees and Conservative judges, seem to agree that Trump absolutely can be legally tried and convicted by the Senate. This was made quite clear in the House Managers presentations.

Even right-wing pundits had no clue what Bruce Castor was doing during his impeachment trial speech

"I have no idea what he is doing," Alan Dershowitz said.

www.vox.com

Of course most Republican Senators seem not to give a damn about a lame duck President of their own party — clearly defeated in an election where electoral votes where confirmed by 50 individual states (and appeals roundly rejected by our courts) — unrepentantly cavorting while his followers fought their way into a joint session of Congress to keep him illegally in power.

If Trump is not roundly repudiated, our country may just continue down the drain, as mobs, politicians and domestic terrorists increasingly feel emboldened to try to violently influence political decisions at the highest levels.

What the hell do you think was going on with the summer of love riots and burning down of cities last year?

Which cities were burned down?

LOL that's right play dumb now, Seattle and Portland STILL have riots going on after a year,

There`s a clear distinction between protests that turn into riots and riots that are planned, scheduled and incited by the president of the United States.

LOL you retards keep making shit up, IF democrats had ANY evidence that Trump planned any such evnt they would have charged him in a court of law since he is no longer President.

 

[surada]

They preplanned the attack openly on QAnon? What the fuck are you talking about?

They spent 4.5 million on the Jan 6th attack.
Trump had spent 5 weeks claiming the election was stolen, encouraged his followers to take back their country and overturn the Electoral College certification.

 

[surada]

LOL you retards keep making shit up, IF democrats had ANY evidence that Trump planned any such evnt they would have charged him in a court of law since he is no longer President.

Trump’s political operation paid more than $4.3 million to Jan. 6 organizers but questions remain about the full extent of its involvement

Former President Donald Trump’s political operation paid more than $4.3 million to people and firms organizing the Jan. 6 rally.

www.opensecrets.org