New Biblical Old Testament Texts Discovered – First Dead Sea Scrolls Found In 60 Years

[surada]

All the bullshit about, someone in Rome wrote the Bible years and years after the fact, is destroyed by the Dead Sea Scrolls. The Bible was written just when it said it was and by whom...

Some of Paul's and Timothy's letters were probably written in Rome.

The Dead Sea Scrolls are approximately two thousand years old, dating from the third century BCE to the first century CE.

 

[Weatherman2020]

One of the major myths busted by the 2,000 year old Dead Sea scrolls is that the Bible has changed over time.

It reads identical to what we have today.

Newly discovered fragments of Dead Sea Scrolls reveal hidden ancient Bible texts

A 6,000-year-old skeleton of a partially mummified child and a 10,500-year-old basket were also discovered.

www.nbcnews.com

Among the recovered texts, which are all in Greek, is Nahum 1:5–6, which says: "The mountains quake because of Him, And the hills melt. The earth heaves before Him, The world and all that dwell therein. Who can stand before His wrath? Who can resist His fury? His anger pours out like fire, and rocks are shattered because of Him."

The authority said these words differ slightly from other Bible versions, shedding a rare light on how biblical text changed over time from its earliest form.

No, it does not. Greek to English is not a word for word translation.

No difference in meaning whatsoever:
Recovered text:
"The mountains quake because of Him, And the hills melt. The earth heaves before Him, The world and all that dwell therein. Who can stand before His wrath? Who can resist His fury? His anger pours out like fire, and rocks are shattered because of Him."

NKJ:
The mountains quake before him
and the hills melt away.
The earth trembles at his presence,
the world and all who live in it.
Who can withstand his indignation?
Who can endure his fierce anger?
His wrath is poured out like fire;
the rocks are shattered before him.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The text is about lying and perjury which god hates.

Dozens of Dead Sea Scroll Fragments Found in Israeli Cave

The pieces of parchments are the first of their kind discovered during archaeological excavations in 60 years

www.smithsonianmag.com

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Your god Muhammad was all for lying.

{
Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other, unless the purpose of lying is to "smooth over differences" or "gain the upper-hand over an enemy."
There are several forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, the best known being taqiyya (the Shia name). These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause of Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them

}

Taqiyya: Deception and Lying in Islam (thereligionofpeace.com)

 

[Uncensored2008]

All the bullshit about, someone in Rome wrote the Bible years and years after the fact, is destroyed by the Dead Sea Scrolls. The Bible was written just when it said it was and by whom...

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not exactly as you state but in a manner of a political document disguised as a religion.

they spent just under 100 years writing the christian bible in the 4th century -
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Christianity in the 4th century was dominated in its early stage by Constantine the great and the First Council of Nicaea of 325, which was the beginning of the period of the First seven Ecumenical Councils (325–787), and in its late stage by the Edict of Thessalonica of 380, which made Nicene Christianity the state church of the Roman Empire.
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and named their "religion" as the state church of the roman empire.

and more so has an uninterrupted history of persecution and victimization of the innocent - beginning with the crucifixion of a religious itinerant in the 1st century. without adjudication for the perpetrators of the crime to this day.

Writing?

Do you mean "compiling," perhaps?

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Writing?

Do you mean "compiling," perhaps?

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no, forgeries and fallacies found on nearly every page of the christian bible.
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Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
.
the above is a forgery -

there are no original documents preserved responsible for the "compiling" claimed by christians and nothing preserved or physically recorded by the 1st century religious itinerant themselves nor were those that crucified them ever brought to justice and in fact the christian bible is written by the very criminals that committed the crime. as the uninterrupted history of that book through the centuries attests by its endless persecution and victimization of the innocent.

Ah, you're a Christophobic bigot.

Carry on.

 

[surada]

The text is about lying and perjury which god hates.

Dozens of Dead Sea Scroll Fragments Found in Israeli Cave

The pieces of parchments are the first of their kind discovered during archaeological excavations in 60 years

www.smithsonianmag.com

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Your god Muhammad was all for lying.

{
Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other, unless the purpose of lying is to "smooth over differences" or "gain the upper-hand over an enemy."
There are several forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, the best known being taqiyya (the Shia name). These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause of Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them

}

Taqiyya: Deception and Lying in Islam (thereligionofpeace.com)

That's some really stupid propaganda. Taqiyya is mainly a Shia practice and only permitted to save a life.

 

[Uncensored2008]

That's some really stupid propaganda. Taqiyya is mainly a Shia practice and only permitted to save a life.

It's used primarily to TAKE lives. Lying to an enemy to gain an advantage then murder them.

For lurkers, "allah" is the pet demon of the Muslim god Muhammad;

Sura 66

2. Allah has already ordained for you (O men), the dissolution of your oaths. And Allah is your Maula (Lord, or Master, or Protector, etc.) and He is the All-Knower, the All-Wise.

Lying to make war is in the infernal book of evil, the Koran.

 

[surada]

That's some really stupid propaganda. Taqiyya is mainly a Shia practice and only permitted to save a life.

It's used primarily to TAKE lives. Lying to an enemy to gain an advantage then murder them.

For lurkers, "allah" is the pet demon of the Muslim god Muhammad;

Sura 66

2. Allah has already ordained for you (O men), the dissolution of your oaths. And Allah is your Maula (Lord, or Master, or Protector, etc.) and He is the All-Knower, the All-Wise.

Lying to make war is in the infernal book of evil, the Koran.

You are fool to take verse out of context.

 

[Uncensored2008]

That's some really stupid propaganda. Taqiyya is mainly a Shia practice and only permitted to save a life.

It's used primarily to TAKE lives. Lying to an enemy to gain an advantage then murder them.

For lurkers, "allah" is the pet demon of the Muslim god Muhammad;

Sura 66

2. Allah has already ordained for you (O men), the dissolution of your oaths. And Allah is your Maula (Lord, or Master, or Protector, etc.) and He is the All-Knower, the All-Wise.

Lying to make war is in the infernal book of evil, the Koran.

You are fool to take verse out of context.

Oh, well put it in context for us, Muzzie.

I'll help, this is about the Warlord and his thugs attacking Medina after oaths of peace with the Jews in Medina. This is the Warlord justifying his complete lack of honor and his position as an oath breaker.

Here is the whole chapter from the Infernal Book of Evil;

Noble Quran - Translation of Sura At-Tahrim (thereligionofpeace.com)

 

[surada]

That's some really stupid propaganda. Taqiyya is mainly a Shia practice and only permitted to save a life.

It's used primarily to TAKE lives. Lying to an enemy to gain an advantage then murder them.

For lurkers, "allah" is the pet demon of the Muslim god Muhammad;

Sura 66

2. Allah has already ordained for you (O men), the dissolution of your oaths. And Allah is your Maula (Lord, or Master, or Protector, etc.) and He is the All-Knower, the All-Wise.

Lying to make war is in the infernal book of evil, the Koran.

You are fool to take verse out of context.

Oh, well put it in context for us, Muzzie.

I'll help, this is about the Warlord and his thugs attacking Medina after oaths of peace with the Jews in Medina. This is the Warlord justifying his complete lack of honor and his position as an oath breaker.

Here is the whole chapter from the Infernal Book of Evil;

Noble Quran - Translation of Sura At-Tahrim (thereligionofpeace.com)

The Banu Quraiza openly took sides in the battle of the Trenches.

Prophet Muhammad's Treaty With The Jews (622 C.E.)
www.cyberistan.org/islamic/treaty22.html
The Treaty between Muslims, non-Muslim Arabs and Jews of Medina was put in writing and ratified by all parties. It has been preserved by the historians. It has been preserved by the historians. The document referred Muhammad (pbuh) as the Prophet and Messenger of God but it was understood that the Jews did not have to recognize him as such for their own religious reasons.

 

[Uncensored2008]

That's some really stupid propaganda. Taqiyya is mainly a Shia practice and only permitted to save a life.

It's used primarily to TAKE lives. Lying to an enemy to gain an advantage then murder them.

For lurkers, "allah" is the pet demon of the Muslim god Muhammad;

Sura 66

2. Allah has already ordained for you (O men), the dissolution of your oaths. And Allah is your Maula (Lord, or Master, or Protector, etc.) and He is the All-Knower, the All-Wise.

Lying to make war is in the infernal book of evil, the Koran.

You are fool to take verse out of context.

Oh, well put it in context for us, Muzzie.

I'll help, this is about the Warlord and his thugs attacking Medina after oaths of peace with the Jews in Medina. This is the Warlord justifying his complete lack of honor and his position as an oath breaker.

Here is the whole chapter from the Infernal Book of Evil;

Noble Quran - Translation of Sura At-Tahrim (thereligionofpeace.com)

The Banu Quraiza openly took sides in the battle of the Trenches.

Prophet Muhammad's Treaty With The Jews (622 C.E.)
www.cyberistan.org/islamic/treaty22.html
The Treaty between Muslims, non-Muslim Arabs and Jews of Medina was put in writing and ratified by all parties. It has been preserved by the historians. It has been preserved by the historians. The document referred Muhammad (pbuh) as the Prophet and Messenger of God but it was understood that the Jews did not have to recognize him as such for their own religious reasons.

The god of the Muslims, the Warlord Muhammad, is an oath breaker by any and all accounts. Treaties made with Muhammad were discarded the moment the Warlord was in position to attack. As is the case of so many warriors, Muhammad (shit be upon him) was a man without honor.

 

[BreezeWood]

All the bullshit about, someone in Rome wrote the Bible years and years after the fact, is destroyed by the Dead Sea Scrolls. The Bible was written just when it said it was and by whom...

.
not exactly as you state but in a manner of a political document disguised as a religion.

they spent just under 100 years writing the christian bible in the 4th century -
.
Christianity in the 4th century was dominated in its early stage by Constantine the great and the First Council of Nicaea of 325, which was the beginning of the period of the First seven Ecumenical Councils (325–787), and in its late stage by the Edict of Thessalonica of 380, which made Nicene Christianity the state church of the Roman Empire.
.
and named their "religion" as the state church of the roman empire.

and more so has an uninterrupted history of persecution and victimization of the innocent - beginning with the crucifixion of a religious itinerant in the 1st century. without adjudication for the perpetrators of the crime to this day.

Writing?

Do you mean "compiling," perhaps?

.

Writing?

Do you mean "compiling," perhaps?

.
no, forgeries and fallacies found on nearly every page of the christian bible.
.
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
.
the above is a forgery -

there are no original documents preserved responsible for the "compiling" claimed by christians and nothing preserved or physically recorded by the 1st century religious itinerant themselves nor were those that crucified them ever brought to justice and in fact the christian bible is written by the very criminals that committed the crime. as the uninterrupted history of that book through the centuries attests by its endless persecution and victimization of the innocent.

Ah, you're a Christophobic bigot.

Carry on.

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Ah, you're a Christophobic bigot.

Carry on.

.
funny word, referring for a 1st century religious itinerant who deliberately left nothing physical for their to be any bigotry directed towards them for the errors they new others would create. and the awfulness that followed, the christian bible. and the crucifiers that wrote it.

 

[Uncensored2008]

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funny word, referring for a 1st century religious itinerant who deliberately left nothing physical for their to be any bigotry directed towards them for the errors they new others would create. and the awfulness that followed, the christian bible. and the crucifiers that wrote it.

Christophobic bigots always have some excuse for their ignorant prejudice.

Are you afraid you'll catch Christianity from them?

 

[BreezeWood]

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funny word, referring for a 1st century religious itinerant who deliberately left nothing physical for their to be any bigotry directed towards them for the errors they new others would create. and the awfulness that followed, the christian bible. and the crucifiers that wrote it.

Christophobic bigots always have some excuse for their ignorant prejudice.

Are you afraid you'll catch Christianity from them?

.

Christophobic bigots always have some excuse for their ignorant prejudice.

Are you afraid you'll catch Christianity from them?

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are you lost, from who ...

 

[Uncensored2008]

are you lost, from who ...

What is the irrational hatred and fear of Christians, leading to your bigotry, based upon?

Perhaps a shrink could help you sort it out?

 

[BreezeWood]

are you lost, from who ...

What is the irrational hatred and fear of Christians, leading to your bigotry, based upon?

Perhaps a shrink could help you sort it out?

.

What is the irrational hatred and fear of Christians, leading to your bigotry, based upon?

Perhaps a shrink could help you sort it out?

.
the truth ...
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the uninterrupted history of christianities persecution and victimization of the innocent from the 4th century to the present day.

only by bringing the crucifiers to justice will the fulfillment for the religion of antiquity be possible circumvented by the christian bible.

 

[Uncensored2008]

are you lost, from who ...

What is the irrational hatred and fear of Christians, leading to your bigotry, based upon?

Perhaps a shrink could help you sort it out?

.

What is the irrational hatred and fear of Christians, leading to your bigotry, based upon?

Perhaps a shrink could help you sort it out?

.
the truth ...
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the uninterrupted history of christianities persecution and victimization of the innocent from the 4th century to the present day.

only by bringing the crucifiers to justice will the fulfillment for the religion of antiquity be possible circumvented by the christian bible.

Yawn.

More lame excuses for your bigotry.

Do you fear Christianity will rub off on you?

Oh, I actually agree that the Jesus of the Bible probably never existed.

 

[BreezeWood]

are you lost, from who ...

What is the irrational hatred and fear of Christians, leading to your bigotry, based upon?

Perhaps a shrink could help you sort it out?

.

What is the irrational hatred and fear of Christians, leading to your bigotry, based upon?

Perhaps a shrink could help you sort it out?

.
the truth ...
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View attachment 468988
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the uninterrupted history of christianities persecution and victimization of the innocent from the 4th century to the present day.

only by bringing the crucifiers to justice will the fulfillment for the religion of antiquity be possible circumvented by the christian bible.

Yawn.

More lame excuses for your bigotry.

Do you fear Christianity will rub off on you?

Oh, I actually agree that the Jesus of the Bible probably never existed.

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Yawn.

More lame excuses for your bigotry.

Do you fear Christianity will rub off on you?

Oh, I actually agree that the Jesus of the Bible probably never existed.

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you're off your rocker ...

no, there is little in agreement I have with you. the religious itinerant died in vein - as long as the forgeries and fallacies of the christian bible are used to silence their martyrdom and message of the 1st century.

 

[Turtlesoup]

One of the major myths busted by the 2,000 year old Dead Sea scrolls is that the Bible has changed over time.

It reads identical to what we have today.

Newly discovered fragments of Dead Sea Scrolls reveal hidden ancient Bible texts

A 6,000-year-old skeleton of a partially mummified child and a 10,500-year-old basket were also discovered.

www.nbcnews.com

The article says the opposite, that the scrolls show that the passages have changed significantly.

No, it does not. See above posts. Identical in content. Since Greek is the most perfect language we have, there’s always variations on words because it’s not a word to word translation. But the content is identical.

No weather---I think what they are trying to tell you is that originally---it was just these few lines that the article mentioned...

In the last 2000 years--------it went these few lines to the following:


1 A prophecy concerning Nineveh. The book of the vision of Nahum the Elkoshite.

The Lord’s Anger Against Nineveh
2 The Lord is a jealous and avenging God;
the Lord takes vengeance and is filled with wrath.
The Lord takes vengeance on his foes
and vents his wrath against his enemies.
3 The Lord is slow to anger but great in power;
the Lord will not leave the guilty unpunished.
His way is in the whirlwind and the storm,
and clouds are the dust of his feet.
4 He rebukes the sea and dries it up;
he makes all the rivers run dry.
Bashan and Carmel wither
and the blossoms of Lebanon fade.
5 The mountains quake before him
and the hills melt away.
The earth trembles at his presence,
the world and all who live in it.
6 Who can withstand his indignation?
Who can endure his fierce anger?
His wrath is poured out like fire;
the rocks are shattered before him.
7 The Lord is good,
a refuge in times of trouble.
He cares for those who trust in him,
8 but with an overwhelming flood
he will make an end of Nineveh;
he will pursue his foes into the realm of darkness.
9 Whatever they plot against the Lord
he will bring[a] to an end;
trouble will not come a second time.
10 They will be entangled among thorns
and drunk from their wine;
they will be consumed like dry stubble.[b]
11 From you, Nineveh, has one come forth
who plots evil against the Lord
and devises wicked plans.
12 This is what the Lord says:

“Although they have allies and are numerous,
they will be destroyed and pass away.
Although I have afflicted you, Judah,
I will afflict you no more.
13 Now I will break their yoke from your neck
and tear your shackles away.”
14 The Lord has given a command concerning you, Nineveh:
“You will have no descendants to bear your name.
I will destroy the images and idols
that are in the temple of your gods.
I will prepare your grave,
for you are vile.”
15 Look, there on the mountains,
the feet of one who brings good news,
who proclaims peace!
Celebrate your festivals, Judah,
and fulfill your vows.
No more will the wicked invade you;
they will be completely destroyed.[c]

 

[Weatherman2020]

One of the major myths busted by the 2,000 year old Dead Sea scrolls is that the Bible has changed over time.

It reads identical to what we have today.

Newly discovered fragments of Dead Sea Scrolls reveal hidden ancient Bible texts

A 6,000-year-old skeleton of a partially mummified child and a 10,500-year-old basket were also discovered.

www.nbcnews.com

The article says the opposite, that the scrolls show that the passages have changed significantly.

No, it does not. See above posts. Identical in content. Since Greek is the most perfect language we have, there’s always variations on words because it’s not a word to word translation. But the content is identical.

No weather---I think what they are trying to tell you is that originally---it was just these few lines that the article mentioned...

In the last 2000 years--------it went these few lines to the following:


1 A prophecy concerning Nineveh. The book of the vision of Nahum the Elkoshite.

The Lord’s Anger Against Nineveh
2 The Lord is a jealous and avenging God;
the Lord takes vengeance and is filled with wrath.
The Lord takes vengeance on his foes
and vents his wrath against his enemies.
3 The Lord is slow to anger but great in power;
the Lord will not leave the guilty unpunished.
His way is in the whirlwind and the storm,
and clouds are the dust of his feet.
4 He rebukes the sea and dries it up;
he makes all the rivers run dry.
Bashan and Carmel wither
and the blossoms of Lebanon fade.
5 The mountains quake before him
and the hills melt away.
The earth trembles at his presence,
the world and all who live in it.
6 Who can withstand his indignation?
Who can endure his fierce anger?
His wrath is poured out like fire;
the rocks are shattered before him.
7 The Lord is good,
a refuge in times of trouble.
He cares for those who trust in him,
8 but with an overwhelming flood
he will make an end of Nineveh;
he will pursue his foes into the realm of darkness.
9 Whatever they plot against the Lord
he will bring[a] to an end;
trouble will not come a second time.
10 They will be entangled among thorns
and drunk from their wine;
they will be consumed like dry stubble.[b]
11 From you, Nineveh, has one come forth
who plots evil against the Lord
and devises wicked plans.
12 This is what the Lord says:

“Although they have allies and are numerous,
they will be destroyed and pass away.
Although I have afflicted you, Judah,
I will afflict you no more.
13 Now I will break their yoke from your neck
and tear your shackles away.”
14 The Lord has given a command concerning you, Nineveh:
“You will have no descendants to bear your name.
I will destroy the images and idols
that are in the temple of your gods.
I will prepare your grave,
for you are vile.”
15 Look, there on the mountains,
the feet of one who brings good news,
who proclaims peace!
Celebrate your festivals, Judah,
and fulfill your vows.
No more will the wicked invade you;
they will be completely destroyed.[c]

Nahum 1:5–6 is the only verse mentioned in the article. And the article says:
The authority said these words differ slightly from other Bible versions, shedding a rare light on how biblical text changed over time from its earliest form.
There are no differences. In these or those found 75 years ago. You do know these are tiny fragments put together like a jigsaw puzzle don’t you?

 

[DudleySmith]

I prefer the NKJV, and haven't found a reason to change that preference, not yet anyway. It's amazing how consistent the book has been over 2,000 years.