LeftofLeft
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Here, check this out... the same idiot who says Biden threatening to hold back aid to Ukraine was illegal ...... once said Trump did the same. That moron admits Trump broke the law but he derides Democrats for impeaching Trump over it....It is the president and his administration's call to place conditions upon receiving US aid.You're correct, it wasn’t Biden's call to make. It was Obama's. It was Biden who enforced it because Obama tasked Biden with handling Ukraine.Why did he threaten to withhold the loan guarantee?Biden used extortion threatening on behalf of the US not to guarantee a loan. Thugs do that.
The answer is quite important because no one is obligated to help another country without conditions. In this situation, the withholding of the guarantee was contingent on Ukraine taking steps to reduce corruption, which starts with getting rid of their corrupt lead prosecutor.
Bullshit. Anyone can make the claim to withhold financing as a step towards reducing corruption. It was not Biden’s call legally yet he gets to make the call because it benefits him politically. That is corruption and it makes Democrats look more full of shit for going after Trump for at a minimum, doing something similar.
it was not Obama’s call to make either over the practices of a prosecutor.
I know conservatives love to say that the US gives out millions of dollars to foreign countries and entities like a person giving out Halloween candy, but that's not the way it works. The US has a review process about giving out aid, and we expect metrics to be provided to show that recipient countries are meeting those targets as they get the aid in regular smaller payments and not in one big lump sum which would essentially eliminate our leverage. That's one of the reasons that the State Dept. has people who routinely stay in contact with our ambassadors to make sure the countries are in compliance with the terms and conditions that they previously agreed to prior to getting approval for the aid.
The best thing they have is to go after Trump for using aid as leverage with the Ukraine. This was after they banged the drum slowly on the falsehood that Trump colluded with the Russians to beat Hillary.
Son of a Bitch! ... Trump did the same thing Biden did. See
[emphasis added to highlight hypocrisy]
I admit that both Biden and Trump did the same with Ukraine. The hypocrisy is that the Left only gets upset when Trump does it yet defends and justifies it to the hilt when Biden does it.
Biden and Trump did NOT do the same thing, and the motives for each were entirely different. Biden's motive was to further official US foreign policy goals which did not benefit him directly other than to fulfill his appointed task as he understood it.
In contrast, Trump was wholly motivated by his personal interest of increasing the likelihood of a successful reelection campaign without regard to what was in the best interests of Ukraine.
Total fucking lie.
LOLOL
Slobbers the USMB's fucking moron.
Oh? What do you hallucinate the lie is?
All of it.
In other words, you can't say. I figured since it's accurate.
U.S. policy at the time was to get rid of a corrupt prosecutor who wouldn't prosecute oligarchs and other high profile people. Biden effectively got him removed in accordance with with Obama Administration. There was no active investigation into Burisma at that time and Biden had nothing to gain personally. Biden did that for the U.S.
That's different from Trump who solicited a foreign national to look for dirt on a political rival of his. That would have been a personal gain for Trump whose campaign would have benefitted by having Biden under investigation. Trump did that for Trump.
Trump does everything for Trump.
Please, show US how Biden and Obama do everything for US? It’s going to be difficult given that both are career politicians and both are multimillionaires.