Need for a new Bill of Rights

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Never before in American history has the enumerated rights been inverted the way it is now. The government has the freedom to do virtually anything it wants, like abusing women sexually like Cuomo. As a side line, if you call the DNC coercing Cuomo to resign justice for his secual abuse, then you have no concept of what justice really is. Conversely, the citizenry needs permission to do just about anything, like leave your house.

Sure, the citizenry still has such things as the right to free speech, but what the Left has done is taken over corporate America who then defiles that freedom via a myriad of ways of censorship.

Sure, we still have the right to assemble, but that window of assembly shrinks every day with new government regulations and edicts.

And technically we still have the right to decline medical treatments and a right to do with our body what we want, however, we are then also free to also starve to death if we refuse certain medical treatments as we lose our jobs and our businesses are ostracized and cancelled from society.

FDR and the Left came with a new Bill of rights in the 1940's, such as the right to work, the right to medical care, etc. that they wished to make Constitutional, but those rights merely empowered government to run our lives. The reason being is that those rights would then dictate to us how much we would pay for their services, and it would also dictate what rights those things actually entailed. Government would then tell you what medical treatments you need as dictate the quality of them, or lack thereof, with no recourse. Government would then later force you to take certain medical treatments that may be detrimental to you without any compensation if you were to die from it or have a serious side effect from the. In reality, FDR' s bill of rights, which have been slowly adopted via legislation over the years, were not rights at all, rather, they were merely a sneaky way to take over our lives and our freedoms.

But my proposal will not bring increased centralized political power and control for government, and it will not enrich corporate elites who controls government, so there is no voice for these Bill of Rights.

So what is to be done?
 
Never before in American history has the enumerated rights been inverted the way it is now. The government has the freedom to do virtually anything it wants, like abusing women sexually like Cuomo. As a side line, if you call the DNC coercing Cuomo to resign justice for his secual abuse, then you have no concept of what justice really is. Conversely, the citizenry needs permission to do just about anything, like leave your house.

Sure, the citizenry still has such things as the right to free speech, but what the Left has done is taken over corporate America who then defiles that freedom via a myriad of ways of censorship.

Sure, we still have the right to assemble, but that window of assembly shrinks every day with new government regulations and edicts.

And technically we still have the right to decline medical treatments and a right to do with our body what we want, however, we are then also free to also starve to death if we refuse certain medical treatments as we lose our jobs and our businesses are ostracized and cancelled from society.

FDR and the Left came with a new Bill of rights in the 1940's, such as the right to work, the right to medical care, etc. that they wished to make Constitutional, but those rights merely empowered government to run our lives. The reason being is that those rights would then dictate to us how much we would pay for their services, and it would also dictate what rights those things actually entailed. Government would then tell you what medical treatments you need as dictate the quality of them, or lack thereof, with no recourse. Government would then later force you to take certain medical treatments that may be detrimental to you without any compensation if you were to die from it or have a serious side effect from the. In reality, FDR' s bill of rights, which have been slowly adopted via legislation over the years, were not rights at all, rather, they were merely a sneaky way to take over our lives and our freedoms.

But my proposal will not bring increased centralized political power and control for government, and it will not enrich corporate elites who controls government, so there is no voice for these Bill of Rights.

So what is to be done?
instead of trying to change things how about you just start holding the elected to their constitutional duties first??

if they arent going to follow the rules we have now what makes you think they will follow new ones??
 
The flaw in your thinking is that this would fix anything. Hypothetically speaking, even if your new "Bill of Rights" was to become reality it would over time get bastardized just like the current.
Well said. Ben Franklin agreed

“I agree to this Constitution with all its faults, if they are such: because I think a General Government necessary for us, and there is no Form of Government but what may be a Blessing to the People if well-administred; and I believe farther that this is likely to be well administred for a Course of Years and can only end in Despotism as other Forms have done before it, when the People shall become so corrupted as to need Despotic Government, being incapable of any other.”​

And as we see the DNC has created an ever increasingly amoral secular society that is at war with those of faith, it is no wonder that the Constitution has been subverted they exact way he predicted. Now the Left can do whatever it wants to us with impunity.

So it seems to me the focus should be making society moral again. Perhaps your church was always more important that the ballot box, it's just now people are figuring that out.
 
instead of trying to change things how about you just start holding the elected to their constitutional duties first??

if they arent going to follow the rules we have now what makes you think they will follow new ones??
With what checks and balances?

LOL.
 
the ones that have been ignored for decades,,
The more things the Federal government controls the less justice there will be

It's pretty simple really. Human beings WILL violate your rights. They WILL abuse you in various ways. That is what makes being a human being so wonderful, whether you are in government or you are not. That is why we have laws.

In this game of perpetual abuse, we call humanity, there needs to be a referee who is impartial. However, when the referee starts to run with the ball, how can we ever have justice again?
 
The more things the Federal government controls the less justice there will be

It's pretty simple really. Human beings WILL violate your rights. They WILL abuse you in various ways. That is what makes being a human being so wonderful, whether you are in government or you are not. That is why we have laws.

In this game of perpetual abuse, we call humanity, there needs to be a referee who is impartial. However, when the referee starts to run with the ball, how can we ever have justice again?
and thats why I said hold them to their original stated duties and not let them overstep,,

if they wont do that what makes you think they will follow your new rules??
 
Uncle Sam is a lazy pervert. He wants to know what you're doin' how much money you're makin', and then he wants to send you off to war..... You know.
This problem is as old as dirt

Just read 1 Samuel 8 as the Hebrew people clamor for a human king. It was a time when judges helped keep the peace as the people were free to govern their own lives

8 When Samuel grew old, he appointed his sons as Israel’s leaders.[a] 2 The name of his firstborn was Joel and the name of his second was Abijah, and they served at Beersheba. 3 But his sons did not follow his ways. They turned aside after dishonest gain and accepted bribes and perverted justice.

4 So all the elders of Israel gathered together and came to Samuel at Ramah. 5 They said to him, “You are old, and your sons do not follow your ways; now appoint a king to lead[b] us, such as all the other nations have.”

6 But when they said, “Give us a king to lead us,” this displeased Samuel; so he prayed to the Lord. 7 And the Lord told him: “Listen to all that the people are saying to you; it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected me as their king. 8 As they have done from the day I brought them up out of Egypt until this day, forsaking me and serving other gods, so they are doing to you. 9 Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will claim as his rights.”

10 Samuel told all the words of the Lord to the people who were asking him for a king. 11 He said, “This is what the king who will reign over you will claim as his rights: He will take your sons and make them serve with his chariots and horses, and they will run in front of his chariots. 12 Some he will assign to be commanders of thousands and commanders of fifties, and others to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and still others to make weapons of war and equipment for his chariots. 13 He will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers. 14 He will take the best of your fields and vineyards and olive groves and give them to his attendants. 15 He will take a tenth of your grain and of your vintage and give it to his officials and attendants. 16 Your male and female servants and the best of your cattle[c] and donkeys he will take for his own use. 17 He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves. 18 When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, but the Lord will not answer you in that day.”

19 But the people refused to listen to Samuel. “No!” they said. “We want a king over us. 20 Then we will be like all the other nations, with a king to lead us and to go out before us and fight our battles.”

21 When Samuel heard all that the people said, he repeated it before the Lord. 22 The Lord answered, “Listen to them and give them a king.”


Then Samuel said to the Israelites, “Everyone go back to your own town.”

In fact, Thomas Paine in his pamphlet Common Sense, the document that lit a fire for revolution, used this to argue against being ruled by a human king.

However, back then the Bible meant something to society.

As the Executive Branch has taken over virtually all power, that is essentially what we have today is a king.
 
You mean the 1st 10 Amendments to the Constitution? They worked for the last 250 years even though they are under attack today.
 
Uncle Sam is a lazy pervert. He wants to know what you're doin' how much money you're makin', and then he wants to send you off to war..... You know.
Many people do not realize how much they are taxed. State, local, Federal and fees and fines and hidden taxes in bills or products. The Federal Tax is just one of hundreds and even thousands of taxes at all levels of government. Just freezing or moderating increases in budgets for a few years would help the bottom line.
 

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