Nazi Roots of the Arab Palestinian Movement

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C'mon, grand mufti is a pretty peripheral persona, almost totally ineffectual during his life and irrelevant now. I did know a bit about him, but had totally forgotten he ever existed.

But I am willing to concede partial credit to the original poster's point. What a jerk that guy was! I asked around, did some research. I think the most detailed and well-researched online article is on Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni

Please note this article has been hammered out by a combined panel of Zionist and Palestinian scholars and other perspectives. And the likes of us should leave it alone until we know more. Wikipedia is not a venue for the time and energy wasting vitriol and gratuitous bashing that sometimes seems to hold sway on this forum. I love the crowd sourcing concept of Wikipedia, wonderful way to arrive at "the truth" such as human intellect can know it. The nature of the process levels the playing field wonderfully.

But I digress. The Grand Mufti was worse than a fool, he was a Nazi. Hannah Arendt did not believe he was aware of the final solution. I can't deny it; I now do believe he was fully aware by war's end. He also met considerable opposition from within the Palestinian community, which he rebuffed with threats of violence. He was enthralled by Hitler's ability to move a mob ... er, crowd, and that is what he was trying to emulate, with some limited success. Again it comes down to a lack of sophistication.

That said, please also note that he has been marginalized and discredited by Palestinians ever since, saving Israel the trouble of having to do it. The PLO's rising credibility ensured that he was never able to influence anyone again. I was amazed to realize that on my first couple of trips to Beirut, I might have passed the good ol' GM in the streets! Yikes! He was still alive until 1974.
"According to Zvi Elpeleg, almost all trace of his memory thereafter vanished from Palestinian awareness, and Palestinians have raised no monument to his memory, or written books commemorating his deeds."
And that was why I stood where I stood when this subject was first raised. Since there were also Jewish Nazis (yes!) can we leave these dead fools to rest now and move on? They're slimy and not terribly interesting.
Again you ignore the Mufti's role in the events that happened both in Europe and in the Middle East. The Mufti wrote several letters to Hitler and Himmler encouraging them to address the Jewish problem, by killing all of them. Those letters are now in the National Archives. It is even suggested that the Mufti planted the seeds of the "Final Solution" into Hitler's mind. And considering that the Mufti was Yasser Arafat's teacher and sponsor, the PLO was the Mufti. Aside from all the other criminal behavior he engaged in.

Only an ignorant person call him an insignificant character.

Like I said, the roots of the Palestinian national movement and Arab National Movements are based on Nazi ideology.
 
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C'mon, grand mufti is a pretty peripheral persona, almost totally ineffectual during his life and irrelevant now. I did know a bit about him, but had totally forgotten he ever existed.

But I am willing to concede partial credit to the original poster's point. What a jerk that guy was! I asked around, did some research. I think the most detailed and well-researched online article is on Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni

Please note this article has been hammered out by a combined panel of Zionist and Palestinian scholars and other perspectives. And the likes of us should leave it alone until we know more. Wikipedia is not a venue for the time and energy wasting vitriol and gratuitous bashing that sometimes seems to hold sway on this forum. I love the crowd sourcing concept of Wikipedia, wonderful way to arrive at "the truth" such as human intellect can know it. The nature of the process levels the playing field wonderfully.

But I digress. The Grand Mufti was worse than a fool, he was a Nazi. Hannah Arendt did not believe he was aware of the final solution. I can't deny it; I now do believe he was fully aware by war's end. He also met considerable opposition from within the Palestinian community, which he rebuffed with threats of violence. He was enthralled by Hitler's ability to move a mob ... er, crowd, and that is what he was trying to emulate, with some limited success. Again it comes down to a lack of sophistication.

That said, please also note that he has been marginalized and discredited by Palestinians ever since, saving Israel the trouble of having to do it. The PLO's rising credibility ensured that he was never able to influence anyone again. I was amazed to realize that on my first couple of trips to Beirut, I might have passed the good ol' GM in the streets! Yikes! He was still alive until 1974.
"According to Zvi Elpeleg, almost all trace of his memory thereafter vanished from Palestinian awareness, and Palestinians have raised no monument to his memory, or written books commemorating his deeds."
And that was why I stood where I stood when this subject was first raised. Since there were also Jewish Nazis (yes!) can we leave these dead fools to rest now and move on? They're slimy and not terribly interesting.
Again you ignore the Mufti's role in the events that happened both in Europe and in the Middle East. The Mufti wrote several letters to Hitler and Himmler encouraging them to address the Jewish problem, by killing all of them. Those letters are now in the National Archives. It is even suggested that the Mufti planted the seeds of the "Final Solution" into Hitler's mind. And considering that the Mufti was Yasser Arafat's teacher and sponsor, the PLO was the Mufti. Aside from all the other criminal behavior he engaged in.

Only an ignorant person call him an insignificant character.

Like I said, the roots of the Palestinian national movement and Arab National Movements are based on Nazi ideology.

I see by your inane persistence that you have yet to read the article I recommended. And no I am not going to read your book. I just got a copy of The Iron Cage, so no time for muftis.

and I can assure you Arafat would have been more likely to have him killed that to have been willing to learn anything from him. Fortunately Grand Mufti was so inconsequential it wasn't worth a bullet.

BTW, I got a nice quote for you!!!! especially for you, Roudy!

"It is not enough for the settler to delimit physically, that is to say with the help of the army and the police force, the place of the native. As if to show the totalitarian character of colonial exploitation the settler paints the native as a sort of quintessence of evil ... The native knows all this ... he knows that he is not an animal, and it is precisely at the moment he realizes his humanity that he begins to sharpen the weapons with which he will secure his victory."
That's from Frantz Fanon's The Wretched of the Earth
 
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Again you ignore the Mufti's role in the events that happened both in Europe and in the Middle East. The Mufti wrote several letters to Hitler and Himmler encouraging them to address the Jewish problem, by killing all of them. Those letters are now in the National Archives. It is even suggested that the Mufti planted the seeds of the "Final Solution" into Hitler's mind. And considering that the Mufti was Yasser Arafat's teacher and sponsor, the PLO was the Mufti. Aside from all the other criminal behavior he engaged in.

Only an ignorant person call him an insignificant character.

Like I said, the roots of the Palestinian national movement and Arab National Movements are based on Nazi ideology.

Too ridiculous Roudy. They have much better minds than that. Why would some fairly radical leftists want to bother with the grand mufti? or Hitler?
 
Nah, I'll take what the writers of these books have said, as well as legitimate historians:

Founders of the Arab / Palestinian movement were all nazi who imported Nazi ideology into the entire Arab world. The Mufti was Arafat's mentor. Pay attention.
 
"Amity" - Why would it make any difference whatsoever that a person is 'leftist' with regard to anti-Jewish motives?

Oh, and incidentally - just what is your 'definition' of "Jewish Nazi" and please cite the sources for that information?
 
"Amity" - Why would it make any difference whatsoever that a person is 'leftist' with regard to anti-Jewish motives?

Oh, and incidentally - just what is your 'definition' of "Jewish Nazi" and please cite the sources for that information?
Hatity doesn't know if Hamas is evil, and thinks the Nazi Mufti was insignificant. Notice the pattern here?

Gee I wonder where Montelatici went. I guess the same place Sherri has parked. Ha ha ha.
 
That is what I am trying to say, Roudy. Your sources are unfortunately not good. They are biased and making things up to manipulate your unformed mind. Read my good sources and see how bad the mufti really was (which was pretty bad after all....) I am not defending the mufti, you are absolutely right about his character. But Arafat, I can guarantee you, was not tutored by him.

We need to help you develop critical analysis skills so that you can discriminate good from poor sources.. But that will take time, so in the meanwhile go with the concensus on this one, okey-dokey, Roudy, and we'll show you more when you're ready. Don't go off half-cocked and latch onto something idiotic.

Oh, okay, Jewish Nazis, right:
http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html
http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/00/03/NSJews.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/...-help-the-Germans.-We-had-a-common-enemy.html

Please note we are not talking about Nazi collaborators, of which there were also unfortunately quite a few, but actual ideological supporters of Hitler. Very, very sad.
But my only point here is that people are people wherever you go, and sometimes that means easily duped.
 
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That is what I am trying to say, Roudy. Your sources are unfortunately not good. They are biased and making things up to manipulate your unformed mind. Read my good sources and see how bad the mufti really was (which was pretty bad after all....) I am not defending the mufti, you are absolutely right about his character. But Arafat, I can guarantee you, was not tutored by him.

We need to help you develop critical analysis skills so that you can discriminate good from poor sources.. But that will take time, so in the meanwhile go with the concensus on this one, okey-dokey, Roudy, and we'll show you more when you're ready. Don't go off half-cocked and latch onto something idiotic.

Oh, okay, Jewish Nazis, right:
Hitler's Jewish Soldiers
David Irving's Action Report On-line
The Jews who fought for Hitler: 'We did not help the Germans. We had a common enemy' - Telegraph

Please note we are not talking about Nazi collaborators, of which there were also unfortunately quite a few, but actual ideological supporters of Hitler. Very, very sad.
But my only point here is that people are people wherever you go, and sometimes that means easily duped.


1) This is about men of Jewish descent - that is not the same at all as 'Jews', which in ordinary usage means someone who identifies as a member of the Jewish People (on their own)/a person practicing the religion of Judaism.

To claim such individuals were 'Jewish' is to play very fast & loose with definintions to the point of inaccuracy.

2) David Irving's webstain.......which of course misrepresents the legitimate work cited in the first link.

How very ironic that you who've chosen to call someone else's sources 'suspect' would rely on one of the premier Nazi apologists for 'information'.

3) This is about the Jews in the Finnish military. Were they supposed to have become deserters, in your opinion? The fact is that Russia had had designs on Finland (along with the Baltic states) for centuries - and the ONLY reason the Finns joined up with the Axis was to have their support to fight the Russians.

Finland is also the only nation to have paid back every cent from the Marshall Plan - and if any other nation has done so, Finland was still the first.


Note that we are NOT talking about Jews-practicing-Judaism as being 'ideological supporters of Hitler'.....not that it would matter, as being Jewish doesn't vaccinate against mental illness such as self-hatred. Nothing does.

I am looking forward to seeing you, Amity, inform the supporters of Nazism posting on USMB as to their being 'insane' and 'dupes' : ))
 
If he's a Nazi apologist then I wholeheartedly apologize. I was familiar with these stories and tried to rapidly locate info online without being familiar with the websites. I'll look for another source though because I am afraid the Nazi apologist is right about this one .....

Were the Finnish soldiers supposed to desert? Oh, heck, yeah. Did French soldiers automatically enlist in the Vichy military wing when France was captured?

No, very few of the Jews were practicing Jews. However they were well aware of their Jewish ancestry and nonetheless enlisted in support of Hitler. If "Jewish descent" doesn't count, only practicing Jews, then about 90% of Israeli Jews aren't Jewish.

And if you don't like these three sources I cam find more. I am so sorry to say this phenom was fairly common.
 
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That is what I am trying to say, Roudy. Your sources are unfortunately not good. They are biased and making things up to manipulate your unformed mind. Read my good sources and see how bad the mufti really was (which was pretty bad after all....) I am not defending the mufti, you are absolutely right about his character. But Arafat, I can guarantee you, was not tutored by him.

We need to help you develop critical analysis skills so that you can discriminate good from poor sources.. But that will take time, so in the meanwhile go with the concensus on this one, okey-dokey, Roudy, and we'll show you more when you're ready. Don't go off half-cocked and latch onto something idiotic.

Oh, okay, Jewish Nazis, right:
Hitler's Jewish Soldiers
David Irving's Action Report On-line
The Jews who fought for Hitler: 'We did not help the Germans. We had a common enemy' - Telegraph

Please note we are not talking about Nazi collaborators, of which there were also unfortunately quite a few, but actual ideological supporters of Hitler. Very, very sad.
But my only point here is that people are people wherever you go, and sometimes that means easily duped.


1) This is about men of Jewish descent - that is not the same at all as 'Jews', which in ordinary usage means someone who identifies as a member of the Jewish People (on their own)/a person practicing the religion of Judaism.

To claim such individuals were 'Jewish' is to play very fast & loose with definintions to the point of inaccuracy.

2) David Irving's webstain.......which of course misrepresents the legitimate work cited in the first link.

How very ironic that you who've chosen to call someone else's sources 'suspect' would rely on one of the premier Nazi apologists for 'information'.

3) This is about the Jews in the Finnish military. Were they supposed to have become deserters, in your opinion? The fact is that Russia had had designs on Finland (along with the Baltic states) for centuries - and the ONLY reason the Finns joined up with the Axis was to have their support to fight the Russians.

Finland is also the only nation to have paid back every cent from the Marshall Plan - and if any other nation has done so, Finland was still the first.


Note that we are NOT talking about Jews-practicing-Judaism as being 'ideological supporters of Hitler'.....not that it would matter, as being Jewish doesn't vaccinate against mental illness such as self-hatred. Nothing does.

I am looking forward to seeing you, Amity, inform the supporters of Nazism posting on USMB as to their being 'insane' and 'dupes' : ))
My sources are impeachable whereas yours are based on your own opinions. There was a reason why the Mufti was declared a Nazi by the US state dept, and why he was wanted for war crimes by the Yugoslavs. HE WAS.

"Dr. Mallmann is the Director of the Research Center, University of Ludwigsburg and Professor of History at the University of Stuttgart. He is the author of several important studies on the Holocaust. Dr. Martin Cüppers is Scientific Assistant at the Research Center in Ludwigsburg and author of Wegbereiter der Shoa--The Precursor of the Holocaust (2005)."
 
Here's what "Christian" historians think of the Mufti:

Hitler's Mufti | Catholic Answers

Recent work by historians and apologists has revealed that an influential, international religious leader was also an ardent supporter of Adolf Hitler. His name was not Pope Pius XII but Hajj Amin al-Husseini. This Grand Mufti of Jerusalem recruited whole divisions of fanatics to fight and kill in the name of extremism.

Revered in some circles today as one of the fathers of modern radical Islam, al-Husseini has been the subject of a number of modern studies. Scholars such as David Dalin, John Rothmann, Chuck Morse, and others have courageously brought al-Husseini’s actions to light. "Hitler’s Mufti," as many have called him, had a direct hand in some of the darkest moments of the Holocaust, the slaughter of tens of thousands of Christians, and the formation of some of the most hate-filled generations of modern history. Al-Husseini is a testament to the way that evil finds evil.

Soon after the appointment of Hitler as German Chancellor in 1933, the German Consul-General in Palestine, Heinrich Wolff, expressed his belief that many Muslims in the Holy Land would be supportive of the new Nazi regime. This view was confirmed when Wolff met with al-Husseini and other radical local leaders. For al-Husseini, the anti-Jewish policies of the Nazis were appealing, and he hoped for German help in ousting the British from Palestine.

Al-Husseini deepened his outreach to the Nazis in 1937 when he met with two Nazi SS officers, including Adolf Eichmann, one of the architects of the Holocaust in Damascus, Syria. The SS representatives had been sent at the express order of Reinhard Heydrich, the deputy head of the SS under Heinrich Himmler and chief of SS Intelligence and the Nazi security services, including the Gestapo. Heydrich recognized immediately that al-Husseini was a potentially valuable asset for Nazi interests in the Middle East and worked to cultivate him.

Four years later, al-Husseini threw his support to a pro-Nazi revolt in Iraq against the British-backed prime minister, Nuri Said Pasha. Going to Baghdad, al-Husseini issued a fatwa for a jihad against the British.

The Mufti Meets the Führer

Over the next few days, al-Husseini drafted a proposed statement of an Arab-Axis cooperative effort by which the Axis powers would recognize the right of the Arabs to deal with Jewish elements in Palestine and in the other Arab countries according to their own interests. The declaration was approved by Mussolini and sent to the German embassy in Rome. Pleased with the declaration, al-Husseini was invited to Berlin as an honored and useful guest of the Nazi regime. He arrived in Berlin on November 6 and met with Ernst von Weizsäcker, German secretary of state under Nazi Foreign Minister Joachim von Ribbentrop. Two weeks later, he met with von Ribbentrop himself, a prelude to his triumphant reception on November 28, 1941, with Adolf Hitler.

At their meeting, al-Husseini requested German assistance with the Arab independence movement and Nazi support in the extermination of any Jewish homeland. For his part, Hitler promised to aid that liberation movement, but went still further, promising that the aim of Nazi Germany would be the elimination of all Jews living under British protection once such territories had been conquered. This was described by al-Husseini in his own memoirs:

Our fundamental condition for cooperating with Germany was a free hand to eradicate every last Jew from Palestine and the Arab world. I asked Hitler for an explicit undertaking to allow us to solve the Jewish people in a manner befitting our national and racial aspirations and according to the scientific methods innovated by Germany in the handling of its Jews. The answer I got was: "The Jews are yours." (Ami Isseroff and Peter FitzGerald-Morris, "The Iraq Coup Attempt of 1941, the Mufti, and the Farhud")

The Axis’ Kept Man

For the Nazis, al-Husseini was an ideal propaganda tool, a powerful spokesman among radical Arabs, and an excellent instrument for their anti-Jewish campaign in Europe and in the Holy Land. Portrayed by the Nazis as the spiritual leader of all Islam, al-Husseini was given a grand formal welcome in Berlin. The official Nazi newspaper, Volkischer Beobachter, proudly published a photo of Hitler and al-Husseini, and Radio Berlin proclaimed on January 8, 1942 that the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem had consented to take part in the effort against the British, the Communists, and the Jews.

Satisfied with his newly concretized relations with the Nazis, al-Husseini chose to remain in the service of the Axis and settled in Berlin in a lavish mansion that had been confiscated from a Jewish family. The Nazis paid him a monthly stipend of 62,500 Reichsmarks (approximately 20,000 dollars), payments that continued until April 1945, when only the fall of Berlin to the Red Army ended Hitler’s financial support. From his post, al-Husseini headed the Nazi-Arab Cooperation Section and helped build a network of German spies across the Middle East through his followers. Scheming for a desired dark future of Nazi-Islamic leadership, the Mufti founded an Islamic Institute in Dresden to provide training for young radical Muslims who would serve as chaplains for his field units and also head out across the Middle East and the world to sow the seeds of jihadism and anti-Semitism.

The Mufti’s Final Solution

Scholars have long studied how actively engaged al-Husseini was in the implementation of the Holocaust. There is no question that he supported the aims of the Nazis in perpetrating genocide and believed perversely that all Arabs should join that cause. He declared on German radio on March 1, 1944: "Arabs, rise as one man and fight for your sacred rights. Kill the Jews wherever you find them. This pleases God, history, and religion. This saves your honor. God is with you" (qtd. in Norman Stillman, "Jews of the Arab World between European Colonialism, Zionism, and Arab Nationalism" in Judaism and Islam: Boundaries, Communications, and Interaction: Essays in Honor of William M. Brinner).

According to the testimony of Adolf Eichmann’s chief deputy Dieter Wisliceny (who was hanged for war crimes) the Mufti played a role in encouraging the Final Solution and was a close friend and advisor to Eichmann in the Holocaust’s implementation across Europe. Wisliceny testified further that al-Husseini had a close association with Heinrich Himmler and visited the gas chambers at Auschwitz, where he exhorted the staff to be even more dedicated in its important work.
 
Roudy, look, before we can sharpen your critical skills, we are going to have to teach you to read. Will you please begin at my first post and read carefully. I am absolutely admitting he was a Nazi. Maybe not a member of the Nazi party, but nonetheless a conscientious supporter of Hitler AND (I believe) the "Final Solution." And go onl\ine and read that mufti article. It IS better than your source. Its unbiased!

Now you're going to come up with Catholic Zionist sites and Irish Zionist sites, and every other kind of Zionist site to try to convince me of what I already know. What a chowderhead you can be. I am conceding all but the one point, that one point being that he was influential among Palestinians.
 
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If he's a Nazi apologist then I wholeheartedly apologize. I was familiar with these stories and tried to rapidly locate info online without being familiar with the websites. I'll look for another source though because I am afraid the Nazi apologist is right about this one .....

Were the Finnish soldiers supposed to desert? Oh, heck, yeah. Did French soldiers automatically enlist in the Vichy military wing when France was captured?

No, very few of the Jews were practicing Jews. However they were well aware of their Jewish ancestry and nonetheless enlisted in support of Hitler. If "Jewish descent" doesn't count, only practicing Jews, then about 90% of Israeli Jews aren't Jewish.

And if you don't like these three sources I cam find more. I am so sorry to say this phenom was fairly common.

They enlisted in support of - drum roll, please - Finland.
 
Roudy, look, before we can sharpen your critical skills, we are going to have to teach you to read. Will you please begin at my first post and read carefully. I am absolutely admitting he was a Nazi. Maybe not a member of the Nazi party, but nonetheless a conscientious supporter of Hitler AND (I believe) the "Final Solution." And go onl\ine and read that mufti article. It IS better than your source. Its unbiased!

Now you're going to come up with Catholic Zionist sites and Irish Zionist sites, and every other kind of Zionist site to try to convince me of what I already know. What a chowderhead you can be. I am conceding all but the one point, that one point being that he was influential among Palestinians.
And here's what Muslims think of him. This is from a pro Palestinian site.

You are shit out of luck on this one:

Grand Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini

Grand Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini

Nazis found in Arab an ally in the form of Husseini who declared him to be the “Fuhrer of the Arabic World”. He took a refuge in Egypt after the war ended in 1945 and influenced people like Anwar Sadat, Gamal Abdul Nasser and Yasser Arafat. Yasser Arafat met Grand Mufti while he was still young. He became his role model and a mentor and also involved Arafat in his cover network.

Arab Muslims consider Haj Amin Al-Husseini not only as the man of the past but also the man of the present. He still is a role model for a number of groups of radical Muslims who have common views with him regarding Jews, West and the Sharia Law. He was one of the dearest friends Nazis had, who helped and got help from them in the times of war. One can say that Haj Amin was the father of Arab nationalism and the only reason he is not revered as much in Palestine today is because “he did not succeed in destroying the Jews and Israel”.

******CASE CLOSED, STICK A FORK IN HIM! :eusa_whistle:
 
Roudy, look, before we can sharpen your critical skills, we are going to have to teach you to read. Will you please begin at my first post and read carefully. I am absolutely admitting he was a Nazi. Maybe not a member of the Nazi party, but nonetheless a conscientious supporter of Hitler AND (I believe) the "Final Solution." And go onl\ine and read that mufti article. It IS better than your source. Its unbiased!

Now you're going to come up with Catholic Zionist sites and Irish Zionist sites, and every other kind of Zionist site to try to convince me of what I already know. What a chowderhead you can be. I am conceding all but the one point, that one point being that he was influential among Palestinians.
And here's what Muslims think of him. This is from a pro Palestinian site.

You are shit out of luck on this one:

Grand Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini

Grand Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini

Nazis found in Arab an ally in the form of Husseini who declared him to be the “Fuhrer of the Arabic World”. He took a refuge in Egypt after the war ended in 1945 and influenced people like Anwar Sadat, Gamal Abdul Nasser and Yasser Arafat. Yasser Arafat met Grand Mufti while he was still young. He became his role model and a mentor and also involved Arafat in his cover network.

Arab Muslims consider Haj Amin Al-Husseini not only as the man of the past but also the man of the present. He still is a role model for a number of groups of radical Muslims who have common views with him regarding Jews, West and the Sharia Law. He was one of the dearest friends Nazis had, who helped and got help from them in the times of war. One can say that Haj Amin was the father of Arab nationalism and the only reason he is not revered as much in Palestine today is because “he did not succeed in destroying the Jews and Israel”.

******CASE CLOSED, STICK A FORK IN HIM, HE'S DONE! :eusa_whistle:
 
That is like saying enlisting in the Vichy regime was in support of France.

Here's one more Jewish Nazi reference before I head out:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews


Look this isn't the most interesting thread on this forum, frankly, so I'm outta here, at least for the next couple of hours. The Nazi Jews did not wind up influencing the Jewish community, and the Grand Mufti did not have any lasting Influence among Palestinians, regardless of what Roudy's sources SCREAM at him (poor boy).
 
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[ame]http://www.amazon.com/Icon-Evil-Hitlers-Mufti-Radical/dp/1400066530[/ame]

Icon of Evil: Hitler's Mufti and the Rise of Radical Islam

A chilling, fascinating, and nearly forgotten historical figure is resurrected in a riveting work that links the fascism of the last century with the terrorism of our own. Written with verve and extraordinary access to primary sources in several languages, Icon of Evil is the definitive account of the man who during World War II was called “the führer of the Arab world” and whose ugly legacy lives on today.

For years, al-Husseini fomented violence in the region against the Jews he loathed and wished to destroy. Forced out in 1937, he eventually found his way to the country whose legions he desperately wished to join: Nazi Germany.

Here, with new and disturbing details, David G. Dalin and John F. Rothmann show how al-Husseini ingratiated himself with his hero, Adolf Hitler, becoming, with his blonde hair and blue eyes, an “honorary Aryan,” while dreaming of being installed Nazi leader of the Middle East. Al-Husseini would later recruit more than 100,000 Muslims in Europe to fight in divisions of the Waffen-SS, and obstruct negotiations with the Allies that might have allowed four thousand Jewish children to escape to Palestine. Some believe that al-Husseini even inspired Hitler to implement the Final Solution. At war’s end, al-Husseini escaped indictment at Nuremberg and was harbored in France before being given a hero’s welcome in Egypt.

Icon of Evil chronicles al-Husseini’s postwar relationships with such influential Islamic figures as the radical theoretician Sayyid Qutb and Saddam Hussein’s powerful uncle, General Khairallah Talfah, and his crucial mentoring of the young Yasser Arafat. Finally, it provides compelling evidence that al-Husseini’s actions and writings serve as inspirations today to the leaders of Hamas, Hezbollah, and other terrorist organizations pledged to destroy Israel and the United States.
Revelatory and unsettling, Icon of Evil reveals an essential character in the worst crimes of the modern era. It is an important addition to our understanding of the past, present, and future of radical Islam.

NY Times Book Review: Icon of Evil
 
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If he's a Nazi apologist then I wholeheartedly apologize. I was familiar with these stories and tried to rapidly locate info online without being familiar with the websites. I'll look for another source though because I am afraid the Nazi apologist is right about this one .....

Were the Finnish soldiers supposed to desert? Oh, heck, yeah. Did French soldiers automatically enlist in the Vichy military wing when France was captured?

No, very few of the Jews were practicing Jews. However they were well aware of their Jewish ancestry and nonetheless enlisted in support of Hitler. If "Jewish descent" doesn't count, only practicing Jews, then about 90% of Israeli Jews aren't Jewish.

And if you don't like these three sources I cam find more. I am so sorry to say this phenom was fairly common.

Thanks for not being willing to take my word that Irving is a Nazi apologist : ))

'Hitler Apologist' Historian David Irving to Hold Himmler Talk

Holocaust denier jailed | Guardian Weekly | guardian.co.uk

On the Work of a Hitler Apologist

Now, you think the Jewish Finns should have refused to fight against the Russians because Finland has signed a pact with the Nazis? I guess it didn't occur to you to imagine that they were thinking of themselves as Finns *first* - or perhaps you believe that doing so made them bad Jews?

Exactly what are your standards for the proper behavior of Christians who would have found themselves in similar circumstances? I'm curious.

Although you've stated 'this phenom was fairly common': I'd prefer that you quantify it. Just what percentage of Europe's 'of Jewish descent' men have you found were enlisting in the Nazi military (or its allies' militaries)?

Just for grins - why don't you look to see how many Muslims did the same?


Please furnish your documentation on that '90 %' figure - only you MIGHT want to find out what I meant by 'Jews-practicing-Judaism' before you assume your definition is the same as mine (hint: yours isn't relevant). Over 50% of Israeli Jews are Sephardi/Mizrachi: they don't really have any non-Orthodox tradition.
 
Here is the critical thinking lesson for tonight. When someone uses inflammatory language in the title, that is a sure sign the book is very distorted and intended to appeal to mindless yahoos who buy it because they already agree with it and really aren't going to look too close, check sources, or bother to read a book on the same subject with a different viewpoint.

But I'll read your hate-mongering book, speed read it, if you will read one loving delightful book I recommend. Will you do that? You are going to have a MUCH more enjoyable time reading than I will, believe me, and you will learn so much more too.
 
You don't read too well either! I accepted what you said and apologized for listing the apologist.

What about all the other sources? Hey I didn't even get off the first page of my Google search... I think it got 14,000 hits, so I can go back and get A LOT more sources for you. But why are you so hung up on this? I think most people know that there were Jewish Nazis, even if it is a surprise to you, and all it proves is that Jews are human, too, as human as anyone else!
 
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