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Actually it raised taxes on the middle class in the blue states.It raised taxes on the wealthy in all 50 states something Dems claim to want.
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Actually it raised taxes on the middle class in the blue states.It raised taxes on the wealthy in all 50 states something Dems claim to want.
Go ahead argue against this tax INCREASE on the wealthy LMAO. OMG after decades of Dems demanding the wealthy pay more Dems squeal like stuck pigs when Trump actually makes them pay moreThe difference is the impact on each state. And the SALT cap was deliberately targeted at the blue states.
WRONG stop lying. I did the math on a family of 4 in California applying ALL the tax reform bill benefits. A family of 4 in California paid not one cent more (or less) until they hit about $280,000 in income.Actually it raised taxes on the middle class in the blue states.
The SALT tax was like the nets they used to catch tuna. Only like with tuna nets, they caught dolphins (aka the middle class) with the amount deliberately chosen to impact the blue states.Go ahead argue against this tax INCREASE on the wealthy LMAO.
You talk about revenue sharing which goes mostly to blue areas located in red states but not about the revenue sharing that taxpayers in higher tax states receive with their tax breaks.Trump targeted the "blue" states, both with his SALT tax cap, and how he handled the COVID pandemic.
Meanwhile Bidens build back better, is a 50 state bill, based on NEED, not on politics.
You keep repeating the same lie, the SALT cap did not increase taxes on the middle class, you LIE. Now if there were more wealthy people in red states are you claiming that you would still be here arguing against the SALT cap? I'll give you the answer, it's no.The SALT tax was like the nets they used to catch tuna. Only like with tuna nets, they caught dolphins (aka the middle class) with the amount deliberately chosen to impact the blue states.
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It was deliberately set just above the red state tax burden.
Well, I'm sure we could debate what A4S4 means by "invasion", but it boils down to us being a sovereign nation and if we have no border protection, then we have no nation. Invasion? By enemy military? By enemy governments? By anyone who is in the country illegally?The constitution is silent on border security. In fact, when it was written, they were importing anybody and anything without restraint.
Myth BUSTEDYou talk about revenue sharing which goes mostly to blue areas located in red states but not about the revenue sharing that taxpayers in higher tax states receive with their tax breaks.
My tax guy explained that since the SALT cap, I could no longer itemize, and I went from getting thousands in federal refunds, to paying thousands in additional federal tax.You keep repeating the same lie, the SALT cap did not increase taxes on the middle class, you LIE.
Nice, glad to hear it. Pay your fair share of the Federal taxes.My tax guy explained that since the SALT cap, I could no longer itemize, and I went from getting thousands in federal refunds, to paying thousands in additional federal tax.
So don't t ell me the middle class didn't get a tax increase because of SALT limits.
Well, I'm sure we could debate what A4S4 means by "invasion", but it boils down to us being a sovereign nation and if we have no border protection, then we have no nation. Invasion? By enemy military? By enemy governments? By anyone who is in the country illegally?
For almost a decade I paid more federal income tax than Donald J. Trump did.Nice, glad to hear it. Pay your fair share of the Federal taxes.
First responders aren't doctors. They can take patients with flashing lights and sirens to a vaccination center to be vaccinated by doctors under orders of a court-martial — but if they are aren't willing to submit to government-mandated vaccinations themselves, then why are they showing up to work where their job is to transport patients to emergency vaccination centers to be vaccinated against their will?responders SHOULD be fired for not getting the vaccine
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
This is the Oath of Office every President takes when they are sworn in. President Biden took this oath. He swore an oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution. He swore to protect the Constitutional Rights, the freedom the Constitution provides every American citizen. He lied.
President and Democrats prefer an Oligarchy, a form of power structure in which power rests with a small number of people, specifically DEMOCRATS.
President Biden recently made this perfectly clear, that he does not care what Rights and freedom the Constitution affords American citizens when those freedoms conflict with Marxist/Socialist ideology and get in the way of their agenda:
Biden says cops and other first responders SHOULD be fired for not getting the vaccine and mocks people who use 'freedom' as a defense for refusing a shot during CNN town hall
President Biden unleashed his anger at people refusing vaccination on Thursday. During a CNN town hall, he said it was right that emergency responders were fired if they would not get vaccinated against COVID-19.
President Biden's COVID-19 Vaccine Mandate is Un-Constitutional, as in 'ILLEGAL'; however, as THE top authoritarian in the Democrat Party's Oligarchy, Biden does not care and demands compliance.
Biden put this on full display at the CNN Town Hall where he OPENLY MOCKED Americans who are defying his illegal, Un-Constitutional mandate.
'Mandates are working.'
- President Biden
1. Again, Vaccine Mandates are ILLEGAL and UN-CONSTITUTIONAL
2. The Mandates are not working to get people vaccinated. The extortion and punishment for not complying with Biden's illegal mandate is working...with SOME Americans. Others, not so much.
Biden wants unilateral compliance with his Un-Constitutional, illegal vaccine mandate.
- He doesn't want to hear anyone cite their Constitutional right NOT to get the vaccines.
- He doesn't want to hear, 'My Body, MY Choice' unless it deals with abortions.
- He doesn't want to follow the science and hear about Natural Immunity.
- He doesn't want to hear how being vaccinated is a decision to be madeby a person and their doctor
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Biden mocks people who use 'freedom' as a cover for refusing a shot
Biden defended vaccine mandates during a CNN town hall on Thursday and ridiculed people who complained their freedom was being infringed.www.dailymail.co.uk
Biden himself said the government couldn't force people to take the vaccine and Nan Pelosi said the same"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
This is the Oath of Office every President takes when they are sworn in. President Biden took this oath. He swore an oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution. He swore to protect the Constitutional Rights, the freedom the Constitution provides every American citizen. He lied.
President and Democrats prefer an Oligarchy, a form of power structure in which power rests with a small number of people, specifically DEMOCRATS.
President Biden recently made this perfectly clear, that he does not care what Rights and freedom the Constitution affords American citizens when those freedoms conflict with Marxist/Socialist ideology and get in the way of their agenda:
Biden says cops and other first responders SHOULD be fired for not getting the vaccine and mocks people who use 'freedom' as a defense for refusing a shot during CNN town hall
President Biden unleashed his anger at people refusing vaccination on Thursday. During a CNN town hall, he said it was right that emergency responders were fired if they would not get vaccinated against COVID-19.
President Biden's COVID-19 Vaccine Mandate is Un-Constitutional, as in 'ILLEGAL'; however, as THE top authoritarian in the Democrat Party's Oligarchy, Biden does not care and demands compliance.
Biden put this on full display at the CNN Town Hall where he OPENLY MOCKED Americans who are defying his illegal, Un-Constitutional mandate.
'Mandates are working.'
- President Biden
1. Again, Vaccine Mandates are ILLEGAL and UN-CONSTITUTIONAL
2. The Mandates are not working to get people vaccinated. The extortion and punishment for not complying with Biden's illegal mandate is working...with SOME Americans. Others, not so much.
Biden wants unilateral compliance with his Un-Constitutional, illegal vaccine mandate.
- He doesn't want to hear anyone cite their Constitutional right NOT to get the vaccines.
- He doesn't want to hear, 'My Body, MY Choice' unless it deals with abortions.
- He doesn't want to follow the science and hear about Natural Immunity.
- He doesn't want to hear how being vaccinated is a decision to be madeby a person and their doctor
View attachment 554948
Biden mocks people who use 'freedom' as a cover for refusing a shot
Biden defended vaccine mandates during a CNN town hall on Thursday and ridiculed people who complained their freedom was being infringed.www.dailymail.co.uk
•You are talking about "inherent" powers not enumerated in the constitution.
And your point was that if it wasn't enumerated in the constitution, then congress has no power to do it.
Your own example proves you wrong.
To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;
Clearly the states can't be relied upon to repel an invasion, no more than Belgium could be relied upon to stop the German invasion of France.Again, please see the point of my post. Even if border security were not part of the delegated powers of the federal government, it wouldn't change my stance. I'd say then it needs to be on the states, as directed, but it is a delegated power as part of the 18.
It Is clear though that there are limits on government actions. You're trying to get into the "assumed powers" of the government as a way of saying "well, there are no delegated powers, so, if it's open to interpretation, then why shouldn't it be able to do all if this other stuff", and my answer is still the same. It leads to dissention because nobody can agree what "other stuff" is acceptable, and it being left to interpretation usually ends up with whoever is in control interpreting things for their own benefit.Clearly the states can't be relied upon to repel an invasion, no more than Belgium could be relied upon to stop the German invasion of France.
So again your idea of delegating it to the states goes against the inherent powers dictated by common sense. In short, like the inalienable rights, they were so obvious, they didn't need to be written down.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
Inherit powers include those needed to carry out the enumerated powers. Such as you can't make laws without being able to compel people to give you the information you need to write them. And with the power of the purse, comes the responsibility to oversee that spending.We can disagree, but my opinion is that the federal government is not and should not be viewed as having unlimited power and broad scope. If the 18 delegated powers were not the founders intent, then they would have never written them, and then backed it up with the 10th ammendment.
Give me an example of the inherent powers? The 18 powers delegated are pretty cut and dry, and the founders were pretty clear, if the power is not listed here then it goes to the states and the people.Inherit powers include those needed to carry out the enumerated powers. Such as you can't make laws without being able to compel people to give you the information you need to write them. And with the power of the purse, comes the responsibility to oversee that spending.