NASA: ‘There’s a Chance’ of Alien Life Out There, But it Hasn’t Visited Earth

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Nobody in NASA has a clue if there is life outside Earth.

None of the scientists have any more valid information on that than any other human because right now we only have one data point and that is earth.

Until we get another data point from some place else all we have are jackshit guesses.

NASA deals in probabilities

They look at the vastness of the universe and calculate the probability of the existence of life.

Then they look at the vastness of the universe and calculate the improbability of ever getting there

Agree. Science deals frequently with inferences, inductive logic, and “concludes” with probabilities that a hypothesis may be true, or not.
Replication of methods & data are important to increase certainty.
In the case of intelligent “aliens”, there is nothing to replicate, only inference.

Correct. In order to do any valid probability assumption you need a data population with more than one data point. Until we find life elsewhere no probability projection is valid. It doesn't make any difference if a NASA rocket scientist is making the assumption or not.

The problem with people making a statistical inference that we are not alone in this universe is that they have been brainwashed by Science Fiction. Everybody just knows that there must be other life in the universe because they have seen it so many times in movies and on TV and read it in books. However, Science doesn't support it until we learn more like finding life elsewhere.

Not necessarily life itself, but astrobiologists also look for biosignatures, or components of life as we know it.

Children Pigging Out on Mind Candy

Goofy pathetic nerds don't fit in where life is as we know it. That's why the wimpy weaklings hide from it in laboratories, libraries, and observatories creating science-fiction images of life that make them heroic Jedi action figures.

And they invent things like "the internet", where any trailer park creature with WiFi can run round calling himself a sage...

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

NASA deals in probabilities

They look at the vastness of the universe and calculate the probability of the existence of life.

Then they look at the vastness of the universe and calculate the improbability of ever getting there

Agree. Science deals frequently with inferences, inductive logic, and “concludes” with probabilities that a hypothesis may be true, or not.
Replication of methods & data are important to increase certainty.
In the case of intelligent “aliens”, there is nothing to replicate, only inference.

Correct. In order to do any valid probability assumption you need a data population with more than one data point. Until we find life elsewhere no probability projection is valid. It doesn't make any difference if a NASA rocket scientist is making the assumption or not.

The problem with people making a statistical inference that we are not alone in this universe is that they have been brainwashed by Science Fiction. Everybody just knows that there must be other life in the universe because they have seen it so many times in movies and on TV and read it in books. However, Science doesn't support it until we learn more like finding life elsewhere.

Not necessarily life itself, but astrobiologists also look for biosignatures, or components of life as we know it.

I am any engineer and not exactly ignorant of science and while not a astrobiologist or astronomer I don't have a clue what a celestial "biosignature" would be. Carbon? Carbon is a building block of life as we know it but by itself isn't life. If it was then the charcoal in the bottom of my Big Green Egg would be alive.

Water and carbon doesn't produce life. If it did then every Jr High Science class would be creating life as a lab assignment.

Lets get another data point and then we can talk.

I just put a #2 pencil in a cup of water and it just wrote a symphony overture.

Tchaikovsky Was a Big Football Fan Who Wrote Music About a Super Bowl Called "18 to 12 in Overtime"

How many billions of government funding do you want? If we pay you to make more of those pencils, we will control the future and can forget about all our other problems.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Newsflash: you’re just a bunch of atoms.

That’s not news to me.
Maybe you should consume contemporary news more often. Try science too.

So why does the periodic table like listening to Bach and watching sunsets?

It doesn’t. The table has no brain.

The brain is nothing but an assembly of atoms from the periodic table.

Those PATTERNS of atom activity in the PATTERNS of neuron activity reflected in creative thought are amazing!

Patterns of atomic activity?
I think you’re onto a Nobel here. Tell us how atomic particles do anything more than bond to other atoms.

 

[james bond]

It's the silliness of aliens again. The atheists and their atheist scientists cannot help but believe in make-believe spaghetti monsters, global warming, aliens, panspermia and the like. There is absolutely no evidence of aliens and absolutely no way they can exist due to real science. The fine tuning facts and solar wind outside of Earth prevent it so for the entire universe. Thus, the atheist scientists have to make up stuff in the make-believe evolutionary science of multiverses. People are afraid of creating another universe at LHC haha. What a joke this atheist science is!

NASA wants more money to find aliens on Mars with a manned mission. Let the Chinese with money or the Russians do it. We can sell them our rocket technology to help get there and find nothing. Hopefully, their astronauts will be able to come back and not die there due to the solar wind (radiation).

NASA: We'll find alien life in 10 to 20 years

Is there a chance these insipid scientists figure this stuff out? Nope.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The fine tuning facts and solar wind outside of Earth prevent it so for the entire universe.

Completely made up, unscientific nonsense.

 

[denmark]

That’s not news to me.
Maybe you should consume contemporary news more often. Try science too.

So why does the periodic table like listening to Bach and watching sunsets?

It doesn’t. The table has no brain.

The brain is nothing but an assembly of atoms from the periodic table.

Those PATTERNS of atom activity in the PATTERNS of neuron activity reflected in creative thought are amazing!

Patterns of atomic activity?
I think you’re onto a Nobel here. Tell us how atomic particles do anything more than bond to other atoms.

Hint:
PATTERNS of bonding between atoms CREATE basic chemical compounds with certain properties, and PATTERNS of these compounds CREATE complex organic molecular structures (PATTERNS) such as nucleotides, the building blocks of DNA, that CREATE ...

 

[Geaux4it]

WASHINGTON – NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine said that extraterrestrial life might exist on another planet since there is “water throughout our entire solar system.”

What an assumption that alien life requires water

-Geaux

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

What an assumption that alien life requires water

That's not really the assumption. The assumption is that life as we understand it requires water. So, it makes sense to concentrate our efforts on what we know.

 

[denmark]

It's the silliness of aliens again. The atheists and their atheist scientists cannot help but believe in make-believe spaghetti monsters, global warming, aliens, panspermia and the like. There is absolutely no evidence of aliens and absolutely no way they can exist due to real science. The fine tuning facts and solar wind outside of Earth prevent it so for the entire universe. Thus, the atheist scientists have to make up stuff in the make-believe evolutionary science of multiverses. People are afraid of creating another universe at LHC haha. What a joke this atheist science is!

NASA wants more money to find aliens on Mars with a manned mission. Let the Chinese with money or the Russians do it. We can sell them our rocket technology to help get there and find nothing. Hopefully, their astronauts will be able to come back and not die there due to the solar wind (radiation).

NASA: We'll find alien life in 10 to 20 years

Is there a chance these insipid scientists figure this stuff out? Nope.

It is obvious you are ignorant about science.
Bashing something you are ignorant about is stupid, don’t you realize?

First of all, scientists are AGNOSTIC when doing science. They test hypotheses with scientific methods.
Second, they don’t make up stuff, like Trump and many other non-scientific politicians do. Scientists collect observable data and interpret them.
Third, scientific studies are usually peer-reviewed by reputable scientists from many nations, not only USA.

You want to learn about science, or maintain your biased stupid agenda?

 

[Geaux4it]

What an assumption that alien life requires water

That's not really the assumption. The assumption is that life as we understand it requires water. So, it makes sense to concentrate our efforts on what we know.

But our assumption of Alien Life is the Close Encounters type. Not some micro organism in a puddle of water. I would expect better justification than water exist in our solar system. How about more realistic proof, Roswell etc.... Their justification does not carry water..... no pun intended

-Geaux

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You want to learn about science, or maintain your biased stupid agenda?

Do you really need to ask? He regurgitates blogs from creation.com about scientific topics neither he nor the lying authors understand. That is where he gets his science info. That says it all.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

What an assumption that alien life requires water

That's not really the assumption. The assumption is that life as we understand it requires water. So, it makes sense to concentrate our efforts on what we know.

But our assumption of Alien Life is the Close Encounters type. Not some micro organism in a puddle of water. I would expect better justification than water exist on our solar system. How about more realistic proof, Roswell etc.... Their justification does not carry water..... no pun intended

-Geaux

I don't think scientists are aiming to meet humanoid aliens. They are simply looking for any kind of life. And , given that resources and time are scarce, it only makes sense to start with what we know.

Add to that the fact that we might not know alien life if we looked right at it (if it is vastly different than life as we know it on Earth), and it makes even more sense to focus on what we know.

 

[Weatherman2020]

So why does the periodic table like listening to Bach and watching sunsets?

It doesn’t. The table has no brain.

The brain is nothing but an assembly of atoms from the periodic table.

Those PATTERNS of atom activity in the PATTERNS of neuron activity reflected in creative thought are amazing!

Patterns of atomic activity?
I think you’re onto a Nobel here. Tell us how atomic particles do anything more than bond to other atoms.

Hint:
PATTERNS of bonding between atoms CREATE basic chemical compounds with certain properties, and PATTERNS of these compounds CREATE complex organic molecular structures (PATTERNS) such as nucleotides, the building blocks of DNA, that CREATE ...

Thus back to my original question. Why does an atom like listening to Bach?

 

[Weatherman2020]

You want to learn about science, or maintain your biased stupid agenda?

Do you really need to ask? He regurgitates blogs from creation.com about scientific topics neither he nor the lying authors understand. That is where he gets his science info. That says it all.

Uh.

 

[james bond]

The fine tuning facts and solar wind outside of Earth prevent it so for the entire universe.

Completely made up, unscientific nonsense.

Fine tuning facts were discovered by atheist scientists. Facts are facts and not made up like beliefs in "aliens." Because of this we know aliens are "faith-based" myths. It's like believing we can walk on other planets without a space suit. Fine tuning facts show that other planets do not have the same atmosphere as Earth. Manned exploration of Mars could be a dangerous experiment if the humans do not have adequate protection from the solar wind for it does not have the magnetic field nor ozone layer of Earth. Astronauts dying on the surface of Mars would make for bad television.

 

[james bond]

It's the silliness of aliens again. The atheists and their atheist scientists cannot help but believe in make-believe spaghetti monsters, global warming, aliens, panspermia and the like. There is absolutely no evidence of aliens and absolutely no way they can exist due to real science. The fine tuning facts and solar wind outside of Earth prevent it so for the entire universe. Thus, the atheist scientists have to make up stuff in the make-believe evolutionary science of multiverses. People are afraid of creating another universe at LHC haha. What a joke this atheist science is!

NASA wants more money to find aliens on Mars with a manned mission. Let the Chinese with money or the Russians do it. We can sell them our rocket technology to help get there and find nothing. Hopefully, their astronauts will be able to come back and not die there due to the solar wind (radiation).

NASA: We'll find alien life in 10 to 20 years

Is there a chance these insipid scientists figure this stuff out? Nope.

It is obvious you are ignorant about science.
Bashing something you are ignorant about is stupid, don’t you realize?

First of all, scientists are AGNOSTIC when doing science. They test hypotheses with scientific methods.
Second, they don’t make up stuff, like Trump and many other non-scientific politicians do. Scientists collect observable data and interpret them.
Third, scientific studies are usually peer-reviewed by reputable scientists from many nations, not only USA.

You want to learn about science, or maintain your biased stupid agenda?

Why should I learn what I already know. You present no scientific argument. Or else some atheist would have shown "scientific" evidence for why they believe in aliens. Instead, it's the opposition, creation scientists and people in-the-middle like I, who have presented the scientific evidence.

It's obvious you lack intelligence to figure these things out. Science isn't agnostic, it's atheist. Today's "secular," i.e. ATHEIST, science powers have systematically eliminated the opposition of those who believed in creation. Many scientists just accepted this before the 1850s. Before, creation scientists were able to participate in peer-reviews, present their scientific papers and such. Now they can lose their jobs for presenting a hypothesis based on the Bible such as the universe has boundaries or life from non-life cannot happen. Much of the greatest scientific minds in science were creation scientists such as Isaac Newton, Francis Bacon, Copernicus, Galileo and more. Bacon is the father of modern science. Today's atheist scientists are wrong just like you.

Thus, your stupid assertions makes you a stupendous dunce. Go sit in the corner wearing your pointy head cap and whine.

 

[sparky]

Nope, aliens fly right on by, look out the window and say 'no way am i landing my nice new ufo in that sh*thole'....

~S~

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Fine tuning facts were discovered by atheist scientists.

No they weren't. Facts were discovered by scientists, and then you silly cultists made them mean whatever you need them to mean to maintain your hilariously dumb magical paradigms.

 

[james bond]

Here's a scientific argument. If NASA is planning a manned expedition to Mars, how are they going to protect the astronauts from the fine tuning facts of no magnetic field and ozone layer? The astronauts will have to survive the solar winds and extreme radiation which no creature has been able to survive.

Or NASA said they will discover alien life, even one microbe, is considered life. What evidence do they base it on? The chances are there is no other life in the universe except on Earth. That's based on fine tuning facts.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Here's a scientific argument.

That's not an argument at all, scientific or otherwise. I don't think you understand what the word "argument" means.