Myth #1..... Israel is "Stolen Land"

[abu afak]

Iran when they make a few nukes=Israel kaput.

Ah! Old news, really. Palistanians have been just an excuse for judophobes to make their mental state look, like, a "non-mental state". A persian nuke, fired at Israel will mean (beside other things) that, palistanians and their general arab brethren of the lesser standing in the hood have all outlived their beneficial use, ie. usefulness.

a 'judophile"? Someone who likes judo?

Anyways, the palies will get nuked too and all go see Allah and pass go and get 72 virgins.

The only thing that should get "nuked" are Frauds ... and their phony sigs.
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[Seren]

Oh Dear, more semi-ignorant amerkans, and anti-Semite bigots. There has never in human history been a "palestinian" state. Gaza, Judea and Samaria "West Bank" belonged to Jordan and Egypt. I find it ironic that our amerkan "friends" say that Yesha are "occupied territories" and that Eretz Israel must surrender them and the settlers cease and desist. Yet less that 150 years ago through and invasion and war Tejahs "Texas" was wrested away from Mexico and Mexico City occupied for a time by the US.

Yet the US has not yet returned "occupied territory" back to Mexico. But nonetheless our altruistic "amerkan friends" insist that Eretz Israel must retrun to the "aushwitz lines" of 1949 as a "just resolution" of the Middle East "problem"....very curious.

 

[Seren]

I find it curious that a amerkan wanker is so concerned about who "owned Najd" and not care that Texas was Mexican. Indeed "might makes right". Or "do as I say and not as I do."

 

[P F Tinmore]

I find it curious that a amerkan wanker is so concerned about who "owned Najd" and not care that Texas was Mexican. Indeed "might makes right". Or "do as I say and not as I do."

Whatever happened in the Mexican American war is irrelevant to other conflicts. Any injustice in one area does not justify an injustice elsewhere.

Intentional laws have been implemented that change the circumstances of conflict.

And, who owns Najd is a valid question that you do not want to answer.

 

[Seren]

Shogun is the kind of amerkan animal that believes in the "truthfulness" of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and all us Jews should once again "board the cattle cars". Us "self important Jews" don't do that anymore. We stand up to and defeat little men like that.

 

[Seren]

Who owned Najd is irrelevant as who owned Texas is irrelevant because five Arab armies (Arab League) invaded the foremer British Madate in Palestine...and lost it. Just like Dallas, Houston, et al.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Who owned Najd is irrelevant as who owned Texas is irrelevant because five Arab armies (Arab League) invaded the foremer British Madate in Palestine...and lost it. Just like Dallas, Houston, et al.

The Palestinians have never lost a war with Israel.

 

[Divine Wind]

Whatever happened in the Mexican American war is irrelevant to other conflicts. Any injustice in one area does not justify an injustice elsewhere.

It goes to hypocrisy and agreed that injustice in one area doesn't justify it in another. The Mexican-American War is relevant when the people advocating a position on one conflict advocate a completely opposite position in another conflict. It's hypocritical.

What disturbs me most are the Arab nations who support terrorism against other nations, including Israel. Palestinians have no industry unless making suicide vests counts. Their main sources of income come from jobs in Israel or those fund provided by Muslim "charities". Charity is good and noble when it is food, clothing and building supplies. When it is AK-47s, ammunition, Semtex, detonators and other weapons of war, then it isn't a charity. It's the work of Satan.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Whatever happened in the Mexican American war is irrelevant to other conflicts. Any injustice in one area does not justify an injustice elsewhere.

It goes to hypocrisy and agreed that injustice in one area doesn't justify it in another. The Mexican-American War is relevant when the people advocating a position on one conflict advocate a completely opposite position in another conflict. It's hypocritical.

What disturbs me most are the Arab nations who support terrorism against other nations, including Israel. Palestinians have no industry unless making suicide vests counts. Their main sources of income come from jobs in Israel or those fund provided by Muslim "charities". Charity is good and noble when it is food, clothing and building supplies. When it is AK-47s, ammunition, Semtex, detonators and other weapons of war, then it isn't a charity. It's the work of Satan.

Palestinians have no industry...

Besides to being irrelevant to the conflict it is simply not true.

 

[Divine Wind]

What disturbs me most are the Arab nations who support terrorism against other nations, including Israel. Palestinians have no industry unless making suicide vests counts. Their main sources of income come from jobs in Israel or those fund provided by Muslim "charities". Charity is good and noble when it is food, clothing and building supplies. When it is AK-47s, ammunition, Semtex, detonators and other weapons of war, then it isn't a charity. It's the work of Satan.

Palestinians have no industry...

Besides to being irrelevant to the conflict it is simply not true.

What? That the actions of the terrorists are the work of Satan? You think Palestinians shooting rockets at innocent civilians or using children as meat shields in their aggressive war against Israel is the work of God? I say all evil is the work of Satan and those who support that evil are doing the work of Satan.

 

[Seren]

There was never in recorded history a "palestinian" nation-state. Najd or better known as Sderote was lost by the Egyptian army. In fact until Yasser Arafat after the "67" war usurped the term ..."palestinian" meant a Jewish citizen of the Yeshuv.

 

[P F Tinmore]

There was never in recorded history a "palestinian" nation-state. Najd or better known as Sderote was lost by the Egyptian army. In fact until Yasser Arafat after the "67" war usurped the term ..."palestinian" meant a Jewish citizen of the Yeshuv.

Israel won Palestinian land from Egypt?

Interesting legal concept.

 

[Seren]

Oh Dear my "friend" pontificates about "legal concepts". A ethnicity that doesn't exist and "nation" that never existed.

But here is a real "legal concept" of international law that applies in the case of najd/ Sderot....effective control. Look it up!

 

[dilloduck]

Call them anything you want. They are still displaced people with very little hope for a future. Israel would like for them to just get out of the way much like America did with it's black population. Good luck with that.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Oh Dear my "friend" pontificates about "legal concepts". A ethnicity that doesn't exist and "nation" that never existed.

But here is a real "legal concept" of international law that applies in the case of najd/ Sderot....effective control. Look it up!

Effective control without legal ownership = occupation.

Look it up!

 

[Divine Wind]

Call them anything you want. They are still displaced people with very little hope for a future. Israel would like for them to just get out of the way much like America did with it's black population. Good luck with that.

After almost 65 years of constantly being under attack, I can't blame Israel for that attitude even though it's 1) impossible and 2) not just.

The main problem seems to be the lack of proper support the Palestinians are receiving from other Arabs.

How many Arab nations have offered immigration opportunities to the Palestinians as opposed to urging them to destroy Israel?

How many Arab nations have helped Palestinians build infrastructure, schools and factories as opposed to sending them weapons and training on how to make bombs or shoot rockets?

How many Arab nations have offered scholarships and training opportunities for Palestinian children as opposed to offering blood money for suicide missions?

Israel has made some mistakes, but they are the defenders here, not the aggressors. It isn't Israel which is supporting terrorist actions in other nations. If there is to be peace in the Middle East, then the Arab nations need to stop supporting terrorism and start living up to the precepts of peace mentioned in the Qur'an.

 

[Divine Wind]

Effective control without legal ownership = occupation.

Look it up!

Terrorism, murder, hate = the work of Satan. Look it up!

 

[P F Tinmore]

Call them anything you want. They are still displaced people with very little hope for a future. Israel would like for them to just get out of the way much like America did with it's black population. Good luck with that.

After almost 65 years of constantly being under attack, I can't blame Israel for that attitude even though it's 1) impossible and 2) not just.

The main problem seems to be the lack of proper support the Palestinians are receiving from other Arabs.

How many Arab nations have offered immigration opportunities to the Palestinians as opposed to urging them to destroy Israel?

How many Arab nations have helped Palestinians build infrastructure, schools and factories as opposed to sending them weapons and training on how to make bombs or shoot rockets?

How many Arab nations have offered scholarships and training opportunities for Palestinian children as opposed to offering blood money for suicide missions?

Israel has made some mistakes, but they are the defenders here, not the aggressors. It isn't Israel which is supporting terrorist actions in other nations. If there is to be peace in the Middle East, then the Arab nations need to stop supporting terrorism and start living up to the precepts of peace mentioned in the Qur'an.

Israel has made some mistakes, but they are the defenders here, not the aggressors.

The Palestinians went to Europe and attacked the Zionists?

 

[dilloduck]

Call them anything you want. They are still displaced people with very little hope for a future. Israel would like for them to just get out of the way much like America did with it's black population. Good luck with that.

After almost 65 years of constantly being under attack, I can't blame Israel for that attitude even though it's 1) impossible and 2) not just.

The main problem seems to be the lack of proper support the Palestinians are receiving from other Arabs.

How many Arab nations have offered immigration opportunities to the Palestinians as opposed to urging them to destroy Israel?

How many Arab nations have helped Palestinians build infrastructure, schools and factories as opposed to sending them weapons and training on how to make bombs or shoot rockets?

How many Arab nations have offered scholarships and training opportunities for Palestinian children as opposed to offering blood money for suicide missions?

Israel has made some mistakes, but they are the defenders here, not the aggressors. It isn't Israel which is supporting terrorist actions in other nations. If there is to be peace in the Middle East, then the Arab nations need to stop supporting terrorism and start living up to the precepts of peace mentioned in the Qur'an.

Yes. Israel has made a lot of mistakes. If they would own up to them and rectify them it might make things a lot easier. Instead they choose to demonize Arabs just as Arabs demonize them. All participants in the ethinc and religious squabble deserve what they get and America needs to quit wasting money on it. We're broke and our own people are suffering.

 

[Divine Wind]

Yes. Israel has made a lot of mistakes. If they would own up to them and rectify them it might make things a lot easier. Instead they choose to demonize Arabs just as Arabs demonize them. All participants in the ethinc and religious squabble deserve what they get and America needs to quit wasting money on it. We're broke and our own people are suffering.

How do you suggest Israel rectify their mistakes?

As for our support, agreed our people are suffering and I support reducing foreign aid to many countries, but we need to do it smartly. Letting Israel stand alone while others, fueled with petro-dollars, seek to destroy it will eventually result in a major conflict and possibly the use of nuclear weapons as a last resort. This would not only be devastating to the region but probably create a major disruption of oil supplies around the world. The shock waves of such an event would be much larger than simply driving up the price of driving to the movies. it would drive up the price of food to the point of creating famine in parts of the world where food costs are a major portion of a family's budget.