My plumber just left the Democratic Party.

[Indeependent]

So we discussed this before and you're dishonest yet again.

<buzzer> wrong. i don't need to be dishonest... but youuuuuuu doooooooooooo................

I asked you to name a policy or policies of his that I would dislike or you dislike and you always go back to character.

<buzzer> wrong. i have.... & i even jumped in the last time unsolicited; but apparently that wasn't good enough, because you didn't ask me di-rectly. the latest i could find being just over a month ago:

Biden got 81 million votes because trump was just that unpopular and hated, right?

post#75

To me character is not as important as policy support.

lol ... you have made that abundantly clear.

Don’t link it as it’s someone else’s POV in your words what policies did you dislike and why?

donny raped the environment. air, water AND soil. he took fed land - PROTECTED land & hd appointed peope that were the very antithesis of the depts they were in charge of. betsy devos for sec of education? the oil dude who SUED the EPA was appointed t head the EPA? ben carson who turned down HHS because it was too difficult ( but ran for prez ) then becomes sec of HUD? yaaaaaaaaaaa we know why that happened. AND he was able to appoint 3 SC judges that will most likely turn over roe v wade come the fall.

please.

Those aren’t policies? What specific policies did you dislike? No one is overturning the unborn baby killing law. Stop it.

when i posted the roll back of the EPA laws protecting the environment on the other thread, that wasn't good enough. now you are changing the goalposts...

arsenic & mercury in the water is now allowed at much higher levels.

yum yum. i sure hope roe v wade stays legal. but it's not looking good.

Link it. That was due to Trump? It will remain legal.

link what? EPA or that he appointed 3 SC judges swinging the court to the right & the handmaid might just hammer that last nail down tight.

take yer pick:

trump EPA deregs - Google Search

What does the EPA do that your State's Department of Health doesn't do?

 

[Indeependent]

My parents were Democrats. Then the party went ape shit in 1972.

My parents voted Republican to the day they died.

Now they vote Democrat.

Was it GW Bush that did it?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

So we discussed this before and you're dishonest yet again.

<buzzer> wrong. i don't need to be dishonest... but youuuuuuu doooooooooooo................

I asked you to name a policy or policies of his that I would dislike or you dislike and you always go back to character.

<buzzer> wrong. i have.... & i even jumped in the last time unsolicited; but apparently that wasn't good enough, because you didn't ask me di-rectly. the latest i could find being just over a month ago:

Biden got 81 million votes because trump was just that unpopular and hated, right?

post#75

To me character is not as important as policy support.

lol ... you have made that abundantly clear.

Don’t link it as it’s someone else’s POV in your words what policies did you dislike and why?

donny raped the environment. air, water AND soil. he took fed land - PROTECTED land & hd appointed peope that were the very antithesis of the depts they were in charge of. betsy devos for sec of education? the oil dude who SUED the EPA was appointed t head the EPA? ben carson who turned down HHS because it was too difficult ( but ran for prez ) then becomes sec of HUD? yaaaaaaaaaaa we know why that happened. AND he was able to appoint 3 SC judges that will most likely turn over roe v wade come the fall.

please.

Those aren’t policies? What specific policies did you dislike? No one is overturning the unborn baby killing law. Stop it.

when i posted the roll back of the EPA laws protecting the environment on the other thread, that wasn't good enough. now you are changing the goalposts...

arsenic & mercury in the water is now allowed at much higher levels.

yum yum. i sure hope roe v wade stays legal. but it's not looking good.

Link it. That was due to Trump? It will remain legal.

link what? EPA or that he appointed 3 SC judges swinging the court to the right & the handmaid might just hammer that last nail down tight.

take yer pick:

trump EPA deregs - Google Search

Those judges won’t overturn R v W. I can’t be mean to you anymore cause you’re from Waterbury. It’s a shame.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

So we discussed this before and you're dishonest yet again.

<buzzer> wrong. i don't need to be dishonest... but youuuuuuu doooooooooooo................

I asked you to name a policy or policies of his that I would dislike or you dislike and you always go back to character.

<buzzer> wrong. i have.... & i even jumped in the last time unsolicited; but apparently that wasn't good enough, because you didn't ask me di-rectly. the latest i could find being just over a month ago:

Biden got 81 million votes because trump was just that unpopular and hated, right?

post#75

To me character is not as important as policy support.

lol ... you have made that abundantly clear.

Don’t link it as it’s someone else’s POV in your words what policies did you dislike and why?

donny raped the environment. air, water AND soil. he took fed land - PROTECTED land & hd appointed peope that were the very antithesis of the depts they were in charge of. betsy devos for sec of education? the oil dude who SUED the EPA was appointed t head the EPA? ben carson who turned down HHS because it was too difficult ( but ran for prez ) then becomes sec of HUD? yaaaaaaaaaaa we know why that happened. AND he was able to appoint 3 SC judges that will most likely turn over roe v wade come the fall.

please.

Those aren’t policies? What specific policies did you dislike? No one is overturning the unborn baby killing law. Stop it.

when i posted the roll back of the EPA laws protecting the environment on the other thread, that wasn't good enough. now you are changing the goalposts...

arsenic & mercury in the water is now allowed at much higher levels.

yum yum. i sure hope roe v wade stays legal. but it's not looking good.

Link it. That was due to Trump? It will remain legal.

link what? EPA or that he appointed 3 SC judges swinging the court to the right & the handmaid might just hammer that last nail down tight.

take yer pick:

trump EPA deregs - Google Search

So you disagree with his deregulation to create
cheaper fuel sources? I did Not take you for an environmentalist. I agree, Trump is profit over green. I am too. I love nature but there has to be a balance.

 

[John T. Ford]

My parents were Democrats. Then the party went ape shit in 1972.

My parents voted Republican to the day they died.

Now they vote Democrat.

Was it GW Bush that did it?

It was the corrupt Democrat party.

You know ...

The sick fvcks you support.

 

[citygator]

Well. There’s your plumber poll and then there is a real poll.

View attachment 501515

You’re a moron. I am providing a real life example not some biased poll and I am not using it as statistical data just an anecdotal story. Are you ever not a complete moron?

I am simply putting into perspective your small world observation. Stay small. Stay dumb.

 

[Likkmee]

So we discussed this before and you're dishonest yet again.

<buzzer> wrong. i don't need to be dishonest... but youuuuuuu doooooooooooo................

I asked you to name a policy or policies of his that I would dislike or you dislike and you always go back to character.

<buzzer> wrong. i have.... & i even jumped in the last time unsolicited; but apparently that wasn't good enough, because you didn't ask me di-rectly. the latest i could find being just over a month ago:

Biden got 81 million votes because trump was just that unpopular and hated, right?

post#75

To me character is not as important as policy support.

lol ... you have made that abundantly clear.

Don’t link it as it’s someone else’s POV in your words what policies did you dislike and why?

donny raped the environment. air, water AND soil. he took fed land - PROTECTED land & hd appointed peope that were the very antithesis of the depts they were in charge of. betsy devos for sec of education? the oil dude who SUED the EPA was appointed t head the EPA? ben carson who turned down HHS because it was too difficult ( but ran for prez ) then becomes sec of HUD? yaaaaaaaaaaa we know why that happened. AND he was able to appoint 3 SC judges that will most likely turn over roe v wade come the fall.

please.

Those aren’t policies? What specific policies did you dislike? No one is overturning the unborn baby killing law. Stop it.

when i posted the roll back of the EPA laws protecting the environment on the other thread, that wasn't good enough. now you are changing the goalposts...

arsenic & mercury in the water is now allowed at much higher levels.

yum yum. i sure hope roe v wade stays legal. but it's not looking good.

Link it. That was due to Trump? It will remain legal.

link what? EPA or that he appointed 3 SC judges swinging the court to the right & the handmaid might just hammer that last nail down tight.

take yer pick:

trump EPA deregs - Google Search

So you disagree with his deregulation to create
cheaper fuel sources? I did Not take you for an environmentalist. I agree, Trump is profit over green. I am too. I love nature but there has to be a balance.

So did Teddy Roosevelt

 

[Indeependent]

My parents were Democrats. Then the party went ape shit in 1972.

My parents voted Republican to the day they died.

Now they vote Democrat.

Was it GW Bush that did it?

It was the corrupt Democrat party.

You know ...

The sick fvcks you support.

Both parties suck so I voted for Trump.
I have no need for Liberals or Neo-Cons.

 

[John T. Ford]

Both parties suck so I voted for Trump.
I have no need for Liberals or Neo-Cons.

Then please disregard my previous comment. ....

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Well. There’s your plumber poll and then there is a real poll.

View attachment 501515

You’re a moron. I am providing a real life example not some biased poll and I am not using it as statistical data just an anecdotal story. Are you ever not a complete moron?

I am simply putting into perspective your small world observation. Stay small. Stay dumb.

What perspective? A random poll? Why don’t you talk to your plumber next time you see him and see what they say? Or do you not speak to laborers because you consider them beneath you? Stay ignorant.

 

[francoHFW]

So my plumber is a great guy. Runs a small business with nine employees. He is in his late 30s. He and I frequently discuss politics and he is always riding me to lean more left. He believes that we should all have UH. To him Bill Gates should not receive better healthcare than Bill Smith a 60-year old farmer in Louisiana for example. He believes that we should have higher taxes, fewer loopholes and is glad to pay more to pay it forward. He especially believes we should open more trade schools in urban areas and teach more trades. Mind you he was never a leftist but a true Democrat.

Until today. So last night he was on a major job. He doesn't leave until it is done and that was around 3AM. Mind you het gets up at 6AM daily to go to work. So he is on little sleep and he calls me outraged. He got into his car and doesn't recall what channel it was but it was some Democrat discussing white privilege. Boom. He said he is now officially an Independent. Not a DJT guy but will now listen to more of his message. Believes the Democratic Party abandoned him.

It is interesting because he is a voter that the Democratic Party should go after and I doubt he is the only one they are losing due to their rhetoric.

I welcome your thoughts....

The Ideas That Are Reshaping The Democratic Party And America

Many Americans probably don’t know exactly what terms such as anti-racism, “cancel culture,” “racial equity,” “white privilege” and “systemic racism” mean. And …

fivethirtyeight.com

Why are so many voters leaving the Democratic party?

Answer (1 of 82): 1. The Democratic Party divides the American people based on race which makes people angry. They tell the black community they are truly oppressed and have no opportunity. 35% of the black community alone finds that ridiculous and voted republican. Most Americans don’t like race...

www.quora.com

Many decent people are leaving the party of fascism and hate to join decency on the right.

Fascism is right wing, brainwashed functional moron.

“Fascism” is a term invented by a life long socialist- Mussolini. He failed at life trying to be a socialist, so he literally invented the term “fascism” and embraced being pro-war. Mussolini himself said it was really just “corporatism”, after all if you can get corporations to do your will for you then you really don’t need a state run company do you? Just look at CNN, they are a Democrat State run media in all but name only.

In the end it doesn’t matter if the government is truly “communist”, state owned, or “fascist” privately owned, they are all just a means to an end: complete control of society and eradication of personal freedoms, and either system could be used by the “left” or the “right”.

Back when Mussolini was starting Facism the corporations he was referring to werent big businesses. It was a body of people.

Fascism is a right-wing dictatorship so of course they love big business, mainly to build armaments for one thing. Hitler loves big business unless they were Jewish and aristocrats. Right-wing like you brainwashed functional morons unfortunately. Big business big pharma big house big oil scumbag GOP. So bad they need their own planet of garbage propaganda.

 

[theHawk]

So my plumber is a great guy. Runs a small business with nine employees. He is in his late 30s. He and I frequently discuss politics and he is always riding me to lean more left. He believes that we should all have UH. To him Bill Gates should not receive better healthcare than Bill Smith a 60-year old farmer in Louisiana for example. He believes that we should have higher taxes, fewer loopholes and is glad to pay more to pay it forward. He especially believes we should open more trade schools in urban areas and teach more trades. Mind you he was never a leftist but a true Democrat.

Until today. So last night he was on a major job. He doesn't leave until it is done and that was around 3AM. Mind you het gets up at 6AM daily to go to work. So he is on little sleep and he calls me outraged. He got into his car and doesn't recall what channel it was but it was some Democrat discussing white privilege. Boom. He said he is now officially an Independent. Not a DJT guy but will now listen to more of his message. Believes the Democratic Party abandoned him.

It is interesting because he is a voter that the Democratic Party should go after and I doubt he is the only one they are losing due to their rhetoric.

I welcome your thoughts....

The Ideas That Are Reshaping The Democratic Party And America

Many Americans probably don’t know exactly what terms such as anti-racism, “cancel culture,” “racial equity,” “white privilege” and “systemic racism” mean. And …

fivethirtyeight.com

Why are so many voters leaving the Democratic party?

Answer (1 of 82): 1. The Democratic Party divides the American people based on race which makes people angry. They tell the black community they are truly oppressed and have no opportunity. 35% of the black community alone finds that ridiculous and voted republican. Most Americans don’t like race...

www.quora.com

Many decent people are leaving the party of fascism and hate to join decency on the right.

Fascism is right wing, brainwashed functional moron.

“Fascism” is a term invented by a life long socialist- Mussolini. He failed at life trying to be a socialist, so he literally invented the term “fascism” and embraced being pro-war. Mussolini himself said it was really just “corporatism”, after all if you can get corporations to do your will for you then you really don’t need a state run company do you? Just look at CNN, they are a Democrat State run media in all but name only.

In the end it doesn’t matter if the government is truly “communist”, state owned, or “fascist” privately owned, they are all just a means to an end: complete control of society and eradication of personal freedoms, and either system could be used by the “left” or the “right”.

Back when Mussolini was starting Facism the corporations he was referring to werent big businesses. It was a body of people.

Fascism is a right-wing dictatorship so of course they love big business, mainly to build armaments for one thing. Hitler loves big business unless they were Jewish and aristocrats. Right-wing like you brainwashed functional morons unfortunately. Big business big pharma big house big oil scumbag GOP. So bad they need their own planet of garbage propaganda.

LOL Big Pharma, Big Tech, most Big corporations are all pushing the leftwing lunatic Agenda.

Notice you can’t even address the fact that Mussolini was a rabid socialist his whole life before he invented “fascism”.

Join the ReSisTaNcE:

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You said Melania was immoral for posing nude and then you defend those who kill unborn babies as being moral.

that's a lie. i never used the word 'immoral' to describe melania nor used the word 'moral' re: abortion.

what i did do - was describe what she had done in the past. FACTUAL things. all which i can back up. see how that works?

lying is the #1 no no in a debate. i never lie. you just did TWICE.

deflection would/should be #2 in that list of poor debating skills. just like you did by throwing in the kitchen sink on that MASKLESS in MA thread, you are trying to deflect yet again - - - right here.

that would be a big FAIL on yer part, zoggy. guess we all have our weakness'.

That is precisely what you said. You said morality matters. So you implied she was immoral. My only weakness is my kids. I cannot tell people to F Off like I would like to. I am undefeated in debates vs. you. Mrs. Morality LOL.

Azog: Democratic Party just voted against sanctions against countries that support Hamas. How do you explain that?

Playtime: I can't


Quite the debater you are. LOL

moving the goal posts is #3 on the 'how not to debate effectively ' list.

' implied' vs 'you said' = you lied when you stated that is what i said.

azog: Democratic Party just voted against sanctions against countries that support Hamas. How do you explain that?

outstanding me: i can't

why? why do you ask? let's see shall we?

A) i'm not a (D)

B) i can't debate something when i don't know nor want to know all the facts surrounding that particular subject. now- you'll seize on that & sooner or later call me antisemitic.; which is indicative or yer stellar debating skills... right zogerino?

C) i could have turned the tables & moved the goal posts like you love to do in said stellar debating skills - by diverting the actual 'debate' subject; & throw in a deflection of my own by asking:

why do the (R)s do biz'nez with a country that supports forced abortions, allowing tax loopholes the size of manhatten to exist so BIGCORP can have most of there sweatshops there & don't want to pay american worker bees a living wage... & god FORBID - unionise ?

D) ...





^^^ now what? mr. 'i'll vote for a dude twice despite showing any sense of ethics who will say & do whatever it takes to stay 'on top'?


so, there you go.

Ethics are subjective. Name one of his policies that were “unethical”. You argue ethnics but support killing of unborn babies. You say you’re not an(D) but can’t name one (R) you would vote for. Feigning ignorance is an interesting tactic. So you don’t know who Ilhan Omar is?

& one more thing, zogsterrrrrrrr............ i have much more respect for stormy daniels - the HARD CORE porn star than i ever would for donny. at least she has empathy & humanity... something the chosen one could never muster. he is simply incapable of it;just as all sociopaths cannot.

I agree and I want the sociopath as my representative. We need a fighter. Many CEOs btw are sociopaths. Look it up.

sad.

But true. I do this for a living. These people would sell their firstborn for an extra 100bps of Gross Margin.

i know what you said about CEO being sociopaths.

i was saying sad that you want one as a leader.

These sociopaths also innovate, create jobs and move the country forward. Bezos is a sociopath too. Sometimes the gene of success and leadership comes at a price. The world isn't simple.

 

[citygator]

You said Melania was immoral for posing nude and then you defend those who kill unborn babies as being moral.

that's a lie. i never used the word 'immoral' to describe melania nor used the word 'moral' re: abortion.

what i did do - was describe what she had done in the past. FACTUAL things. all which i can back up. see how that works?

lying is the #1 no no in a debate. i never lie. you just did TWICE.

deflection would/should be #2 in that list of poor debating skills. just like you did by throwing in the kitchen sink on that MASKLESS in MA thread, you are trying to deflect yet again - - - right here.

that would be a big FAIL on yer part, zoggy. guess we all have our weakness'.

That is precisely what you said. You said morality matters. So you implied she was immoral. My only weakness is my kids. I cannot tell people to F Off like I would like to. I am undefeated in debates vs. you. Mrs. Morality LOL.

Azog: Democratic Party just voted against sanctions against countries that support Hamas. How do you explain that?

Playtime: I can't


Quite the debater you are. LOL

moving the goal posts is #3 on the 'how not to debate effectively ' list.

' implied' vs 'you said' = you lied when you stated that is what i said.

azog: Democratic Party just voted against sanctions against countries that support Hamas. How do you explain that?

outstanding me: i can't

why? why do you ask? let's see shall we?

A) i'm not a (D)

B) i can't debate something when i don't know nor want to know all the facts surrounding that particular subject. now- you'll seize on that & sooner or later call me antisemitic.; which is indicative or yer stellar debating skills... right zogerino?

C) i could have turned the tables & moved the goal posts like you love to do in said stellar debating skills - by diverting the actual 'debate' subject; & throw in a deflection of my own by asking:

why do the (R)s do biz'nez with a country that supports forced abortions, allowing tax loopholes the size of manhatten to exist so BIGCORP can have most of there sweatshops there & don't want to pay american worker bees a living wage... & god FORBID - unionise ?

D) ...





^^^ now what? mr. 'i'll vote for a dude twice despite showing any sense of ethics who will say & do whatever it takes to stay 'on top'?


so, there you go.

Ethics are subjective. Name one of his policies that were “unethical”. You argue ethnics but support killing of unborn babies. You say you’re not an(D) but can’t name one (R) you would vote for. Feigning ignorance is an interesting tactic. So you don’t know who Ilhan Omar is?

& one more thing, zogsterrrrrrrr............ i have much more respect for stormy daniels - the HARD CORE porn star than i ever would for donny. at least she has empathy & humanity... something the chosen one could never muster. he is simply incapable of it;just as all sociopaths cannot.

I agree and I want the sociopath as my representative. We need a fighter. Many CEOs btw are sociopaths. Look it up.

sad.

But true. I do this for a living. These people would sell their firstborn for an extra 100bps of Gross Margin.

i know what you said about CEO being sociopaths.

i was saying sad that you want one as a leader.

These sociopaths also innovate, create jobs and move the country forward. Bezos is a sociopath too. Sometimes the gene of success and leadership comes at a price. The world isn't simple.

Not to be too nuanced, I’d describe many CEOs as narcissists vs sociopaths. Sociopaths are not as functional and are much more rare. Trump might have been a sociopath but he’s a real outlier - even among CEOs.

The Difference Between a Narcissist and a Sociopath

Sociopaths and narcissists can share similar traits, but knowing the difference is crucial to determine whether the relationship improve. Information is power.

www.psychologytoday.com

 

[francoHFW]

So my plumber is a great guy. Runs a small business with nine employees. He is in his late 30s. He and I frequently discuss politics and he is always riding me to lean more left. He believes that we should all have UH. To him Bill Gates should not receive better healthcare than Bill Smith a 60-year old farmer in Louisiana for example. He believes that we should have higher taxes, fewer loopholes and is glad to pay more to pay it forward. He especially believes we should open more trade schools in urban areas and teach more trades. Mind you he was never a leftist but a true Democrat.

Until today. So last night he was on a major job. He doesn't leave until it is done and that was around 3AM. Mind you het gets up at 6AM daily to go to work. So he is on little sleep and he calls me outraged. He got into his car and doesn't recall what channel it was but it was some Democrat discussing white privilege. Boom. He said he is now officially an Independent. Not a DJT guy but will now listen to more of his message. Believes the Democratic Party abandoned him.

It is interesting because he is a voter that the Democratic Party should go after and I doubt he is the only one they are losing due to their rhetoric.

I welcome your thoughts....

The Ideas That Are Reshaping The Democratic Party And America

Many Americans probably don’t know exactly what terms such as anti-racism, “cancel culture,” “racial equity,” “white privilege” and “systemic racism” mean. And …

fivethirtyeight.com

Why are so many voters leaving the Democratic party?

Answer (1 of 82): 1. The Democratic Party divides the American people based on race which makes people angry. They tell the black community they are truly oppressed and have no opportunity. 35% of the black community alone finds that ridiculous and voted republican. Most Americans don’t like race...

www.quora.com

Many decent people are leaving the party of fascism and hate to join decency on the right.

Fascism is right wing, brainwashed functional moron.

“Fascism” is a term invented by a life long socialist- Mussolini. He failed at life trying to be a socialist, so he literally invented the term “fascism” and embraced being pro-war. Mussolini himself said it was really just “corporatism”, after all if you can get corporations to do your will for you then you really don’t need a state run company do you? Just look at CNN, they are a Democrat State run media in all but name only.

In the end it doesn’t matter if the government is truly “communist”, state owned, or “fascist” privately owned, they are all just a means to an end: complete control of society and eradication of personal freedoms, and either system could be used by the “left” or the “right”.

Back when Mussolini was starting Facism the corporations he was referring to werent big businesses. It was a body of people.

Fascism is a right-wing dictatorship so of course they love big business, mainly to build armaments for one thing. Hitler loves big business unless they were Jewish and aristocrats. Right-wing like you brainwashed functional morons unfortunately. Big business big pharma big house big oil scumbag GOP. So bad they need their own planet of garbage propaganda.

LOL Big Pharma, Big Tech, most Big corporations are all pushing the leftwing lunatic Agenda.

Notice you can’t even address the fact that Mussolini was a rabid socialist his whole life before he invented “fascism”.

Join the ReSisTaNcE:

View attachment 501594

Horrible wars and economic chaos lead to right-wing fascist nationalist reactions, just like the ones we have these days thanks to the GOP 2008 world depression and Trump's moronic covid 19 policies And of course the Rupert Murdock and worse crap propaganda machine.

As for mega corporations being leftists you are out of your tiny little mind. Where the hell would you get that idea? What ridiculous hateful swine are you listening to there? Greedy giant corporations, greedy idiot GOP mega Rich, and brainwashed twits like you are all for low taxes and cutting investment in America and Americans...

 

[sarahgop]

So my plumber is a great guy. Runs a small business with nine employees. He is in his late 30s. He and I frequently discuss politics and he is always riding me to lean more left. He believes that we should all have UH. To him Bill Gates should not receive better healthcare than Bill Smith a 60-year old farmer in Louisiana for example. He believes that we should have higher taxes, fewer loopholes and is glad to pay more to pay it forward. He especially believes we should open more trade schools in urban areas and teach more trades. Mind you he was never a leftist but a true Democrat.

Until today. So last night he was on a major job. He doesn't leave until it is done and that was around 3AM. Mind you het gets up at 6AM daily to go to work. So he is on little sleep and he calls me outraged. He got into his car and doesn't recall what channel it was but it was some Democrat discussing white privilege. Boom. He said he is now officially an Independent. Not a DJT guy but will now listen to more of his message. Believes the Democratic Party abandoned him.

It is interesting because he is a voter that the Democratic Party should go after and I doubt he is the only one they are losing due to their rhetoric.

I welcome your thoughts....

The Ideas That Are Reshaping The Democratic Party And America

Many Americans probably don’t know exactly what terms such as anti-racism, “cancel culture,” “racial equity,” “white privilege” and “systemic racism” mean. And …

fivethirtyeight.com

Why are so many voters leaving the Democratic party?

Answer (1 of 82): 1. The Democratic Party divides the American people based on race which makes people angry. They tell the black community they are truly oppressed and have no opportunity. 35% of the black community alone finds that ridiculous and voted republican. Most Americans don’t like race...

www.quora.com

Many decent people are leaving the party of fascism and hate to join decency on the right.

Fascism is right wing, brainwashed functional moron.

“Fascism” is a term invented by a life long socialist- Mussolini. He failed at life trying to be a socialist, so he literally invented the term “fascism” and embraced being pro-war. Mussolini himself said it was really just “corporatism”, after all if you can get corporations to do your will for you then you really don’t need a state run company do you? Just look at CNN, they are a Democrat State run media in all but name only.

In the end it doesn’t matter if the government is truly “communist”, state owned, or “fascist” privately owned, they are all just a means to an end: complete control of society and eradication of personal freedoms, and either system could be used by the “left” or the “right”.

Back when Mussolini was starting Facism the corporations he was referring to werent big businesses. It was a body of people.

Fascism is a right-wing dictatorship so of course they love big business, mainly to build armaments for one thing. Hitler loves big business unless they were Jewish and aristocrats. Right-wing like you brainwashed functional morons unfortunately. Big business big pharma big house big oil scumbag GOP. So bad they need their own planet of garbage propaganda.

LOL Big Pharma, Big Tech, most Big corporations are all pushing the leftwing lunatic Agenda.

Notice you can’t even address the fact that Mussolini was a rabid socialist his whole life before he invented “fascism”.

Join the ReSisTaNcE:

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Horrible wars and economic chaos lead to right-wing fascist nationalist reactions, just like the ones we have these days thanks to the GOP 2008 world depression and Trump's moronic covid 19 policies And of course the Rupert Murdock and worse crap propaganda machine.

As for mega corporations being leftists you are out of your tiny little mind. Where the hell would you get that idea? What ridiculous hateful swine are you listening to there? Greedy giant corporations, greedy idiot GOP mega Rich, and brainwashed twits like you are all for low taxes and cutting investment in America and Americans...

There is no such thing as a right wing fascist. As Gentile(founder of fascism said "Everything within the state, nothing outside the state" The right wing believes in individual freedom, the fascist left believes in state control.

 

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Indeed…..blue collar Italian

damn right. my father came here from italy when he was 3 - & worked in a factory that made silverware in meriden; & he had the burn marks on his arms to show for it. did you ever visit & curious if your wife knows the area too?

 

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So we discussed this before and you're dishonest yet again.

<buzzer> wrong. i don't need to be dishonest... but youuuuuuu doooooooooooo................

I asked you to name a policy or policies of his that I would dislike or you dislike and you always go back to character.

<buzzer> wrong. i have.... & i even jumped in the last time unsolicited; but apparently that wasn't good enough, because you didn't ask me di-rectly. the latest i could find being just over a month ago:

Biden got 81 million votes because trump was just that unpopular and hated, right?

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To me character is not as important as policy support.

lol ... you have made that abundantly clear.

Don’t link it as it’s someone else’s POV in your words what policies did you dislike and why?

donny raped the environment. air, water AND soil. he took fed land - PROTECTED land & hd appointed peope that were the very antithesis of the depts they were in charge of. betsy devos for sec of education? the oil dude who SUED the EPA was appointed t head the EPA? ben carson who turned down HHS because it was too difficult ( but ran for prez ) then becomes sec of HUD? yaaaaaaaaaaa we know why that happened. AND he was able to appoint 3 SC judges that will most likely turn over roe v wade come the fall.

please.

Those aren’t policies? What specific policies did you dislike? No one is overturning the unborn baby killing law. Stop it.

when i posted the roll back of the EPA laws protecting the environment on the other thread, that wasn't good enough. now you are changing the goalposts...

arsenic & mercury in the water is now allowed at much higher levels.

yum yum. i sure hope roe v wade stays legal. but it's not looking good.

Link it. That was due to Trump? It will remain legal.

link what? EPA or that he appointed 3 SC judges swinging the court to the right & the handmaid might just hammer that last nail down tight.

take yer pick:

trump EPA deregs - Google Search

What does the EPA do that your State's Department of Health doesn't do?

any guidelines they follow concerning environmental hazards come from the EPA.

 

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So we discussed this before and you're dishonest yet again.

<buzzer> wrong. i don't need to be dishonest... but youuuuuuu doooooooooooo................

I asked you to name a policy or policies of his that I would dislike or you dislike and you always go back to character.

<buzzer> wrong. i have.... & i even jumped in the last time unsolicited; but apparently that wasn't good enough, because you didn't ask me di-rectly. the latest i could find being just over a month ago:

Biden got 81 million votes because trump was just that unpopular and hated, right?

post#75

To me character is not as important as policy support.

lol ... you have made that abundantly clear.

Don’t link it as it’s someone else’s POV in your words what policies did you dislike and why?

donny raped the environment. air, water AND soil. he took fed land - PROTECTED land & hd appointed peope that were the very antithesis of the depts they were in charge of. betsy devos for sec of education? the oil dude who SUED the EPA was appointed t head the EPA? ben carson who turned down HHS because it was too difficult ( but ran for prez ) then becomes sec of HUD? yaaaaaaaaaaa we know why that happened. AND he was able to appoint 3 SC judges that will most likely turn over roe v wade come the fall.

please.

Those aren’t policies? What specific policies did you dislike? No one is overturning the unborn baby killing law. Stop it.

when i posted the roll back of the EPA laws protecting the environment on the other thread, that wasn't good enough. now you are changing the goalposts...

arsenic & mercury in the water is now allowed at much higher levels.

yum yum. i sure hope roe v wade stays legal. but it's not looking good.

Link it. That was due to Trump? It will remain legal.

link what? EPA or that he appointed 3 SC judges swinging the court to the right & the handmaid might just hammer that last nail down tight.

take yer pick:

trump EPA deregs - Google Search

Those judges won’t overturn R v W. I can’t be mean to you anymore cause you’re from Waterbury. It’s a shame.

i'm not sure if i'm kinda disappointed - who knew we would connect in such a random way; zogster - it may indeed be a wicked shame - but somehow i think this won't be the end....

 

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You said Melania was immoral for posing nude and then you defend those who kill unborn babies as being moral.

that's a lie. i never used the word 'immoral' to describe melania nor used the word 'moral' re: abortion.

what i did do - was describe what she had done in the past. FACTUAL things. all which i can back up. see how that works?

lying is the #1 no no in a debate. i never lie. you just did TWICE.

deflection would/should be #2 in that list of poor debating skills. just like you did by throwing in the kitchen sink on that MASKLESS in MA thread, you are trying to deflect yet again - - - right here.

that would be a big FAIL on yer part, zoggy. guess we all have our weakness'.

That is precisely what you said. You said morality matters. So you implied she was immoral. My only weakness is my kids. I cannot tell people to F Off like I would like to. I am undefeated in debates vs. you. Mrs. Morality LOL.

Azog: Democratic Party just voted against sanctions against countries that support Hamas. How do you explain that?

Playtime: I can't


Quite the debater you are. LOL

moving the goal posts is #3 on the 'how not to debate effectively ' list.

' implied' vs 'you said' = you lied when you stated that is what i said.

azog: Democratic Party just voted against sanctions against countries that support Hamas. How do you explain that?

outstanding me: i can't

why? why do you ask? let's see shall we?

A) i'm not a (D)

B) i can't debate something when i don't know nor want to know all the facts surrounding that particular subject. now- you'll seize on that & sooner or later call me antisemitic.; which is indicative or yer stellar debating skills... right zogerino?

C) i could have turned the tables & moved the goal posts like you love to do in said stellar debating skills - by diverting the actual 'debate' subject; & throw in a deflection of my own by asking:

why do the (R)s do biz'nez with a country that supports forced abortions, allowing tax loopholes the size of manhatten to exist so BIGCORP can have most of there sweatshops there & don't want to pay american worker bees a living wage... & god FORBID - unionise ?

D) ...





^^^ now what? mr. 'i'll vote for a dude twice despite showing any sense of ethics who will say & do whatever it takes to stay 'on top'?


so, there you go.

Ethics are subjective. Name one of his policies that were “unethical”. You argue ethnics but support killing of unborn babies. You say you’re not an(D) but can’t name one (R) you would vote for. Feigning ignorance is an interesting tactic. So you don’t know who Ilhan Omar is?

& one more thing, zogsterrrrrrrr............ i have much more respect for stormy daniels - the HARD CORE porn star than i ever would for donny. at least she has empathy & humanity... something the chosen one could never muster. he is simply incapable of it;just as all sociopaths cannot.

I agree and I want the sociopath as my representative. We need a fighter. Many CEOs btw are sociopaths. Look it up.

sad.

But true. I do this for a living. These people would sell their firstborn for an extra 100bps of Gross Margin.

i know what you said about CEO being sociopaths.

i was saying sad that you want one as a leader.

These sociopaths also innovate, create jobs and move the country forward. Bezos is a sociopath too. Sometimes the gene of success and leadership comes at a price. The world isn't simple.

Not to be too nuanced, I’d describe many CEOs as narcissists vs sociopaths. Sociopaths are not as functional and are much more rare. Trump might have been a sociopath but he’s a real outlier - even among CEOs.

The Difference Between a Narcissist and a Sociopath

Sociopaths and narcissists can share similar traits, but knowing the difference is crucial to determine whether the relationship improve. Information is power.

www.psychologytoday.com

i'll add malignant to that narcissism.

How to Tell You're Dealing with a Malignant Narcissist
The intentional destruction of others while pathologically loving the self.
Posted Feb 22, 2017
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Malignant Narcissism

I want to explore with you the darker side of narcissistic personality disorder, where aggression, antisocial behaviors, and suspiciousness are as prominent as their poor sense of self, fragility, and egocentricity. (Below is a video clip that explores the symptoms of malignant narcissism.)

A person with malignant narcissism has the potential to destroy families, communities, nations, and work environments. This condition reflects a hybrid or blending of narcissistic and antisocial personality disorders. Psychologist Eric Fromm termed the disorder in 1964. Psychoanalyst Otto Kernberg later delineated the symptoms of the condition and presented it as an intermediary between narcissistic and antisocial personality disorders.

Why is the behavior of malignant narcissism often considered dangerous?

Individuals with this profile can form connections with others. However, they process information in ways that can hurt society in general, but also the people who love or depend on them. Family, co-workers, employees, and others in their lives often have to walk on eggshells to appease a fragile ego and minimize the occurrence of their unstable, impulsive, or aggressive behaviors.

They lash out or humiliate others for infractions of even the most frivolous nature (for example, you gave an opinion that differed from theirs; you demonstrated confidence, and it made them look bad; you told a joke that involved poking fun at them).
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How to Tell You're Dealing with a Malignant Narcissist

donny is a clinical case.