My plumber just left the Democratic Party.

[Colin norris]

So my plumber is a great guy. Runs a small business with nine employees. He is in his late 30s. He and I frequently discuss politics and he is always riding me to lean more left. He believes that we should all have UH. To him Bill Gates should not receive better healthcare than Bill Smith a 60-year old farmer in Louisiana for example. He believes that we should have higher taxes, fewer loopholes and is glad to pay more to pay it forward. He especially believes we should open more trade schools in urban areas and teach more trades. Mind you he was never a leftist but a true Democrat.

Until today. So last night he was on a major job. He doesn't leave until it is done and that was around 3AM. Mind you het gets up at 6AM daily to go to work. So he is on little sleep and he calls me outraged. He got into his car and doesn't recall what channel it was but it was some Democrat discussing white privilege. Boom. He said he is now officially an Independent. Not a DJT guy but will now listen to more of his message. Believes the Democratic Party abandoned him.

It is interesting because he is a voter that the Democratic Party should go after and I doubt he is the only one they are losing due to their rhetoric.

I welcome your thoughts....

The Ideas That Are Reshaping The Democratic Party And America

Many Americans probably don’t know exactly what terms such as anti-racism, “cancel culture,” “racial equity,” “white privilege” and “systemic racism” mean. And …

fivethirtyeight.com

Why are so many voters leaving the Democratic party?

Answer (1 of 76): 1. The Democratic Party divides the American people based on race which makes people angry. They tell the black community they are truly oppressed and have no opportunity. 35% of the black community alone finds that ridiculous and voted republican. Most Americans don’t like race...

www.quora.com

He gets a late night call for which he could charge anything he wants and you blame the democrats. How does that work?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

So my plumber is a great guy. Runs a small business with nine employees. He is in his late 30s. He and I frequently discuss politics and he is always riding me to lean more left. He believes that we should all have UH. To him Bill Gates should not receive better healthcare than Bill Smith a 60-year old farmer in Louisiana for example. He believes that we should have higher taxes, fewer loopholes and is glad to pay more to pay it forward. He especially believes we should open more trade schools in urban areas and teach more trades. Mind you he was never a leftist but a true Democrat.

Until today. So last night he was on a major job. He doesn't leave until it is done and that was around 3AM. Mind you het gets up at 6AM daily to go to work. So he is on little sleep and he calls me outraged. He got into his car and doesn't recall what channel it was but it was some Democrat discussing white privilege. Boom. He said he is now officially an Independent. Not a DJT guy but will now listen to more of his message. Believes the Democratic Party abandoned him.

It is interesting because he is a voter that the Democratic Party should go after and I doubt he is the only one they are losing due to their rhetoric.

I welcome your thoughts....

The Ideas That Are Reshaping The Democratic Party And America

Many Americans probably don’t know exactly what terms such as anti-racism, “cancel culture,” “racial equity,” “white privilege” and “systemic racism” mean. And …

fivethirtyeight.com

Why are so many voters leaving the Democratic party?

Answer (1 of 76): 1. The Democratic Party divides the American people based on race which makes people angry. They tell the black community they are truly oppressed and have no opportunity. 35% of the black community alone finds that ridiculous and voted republican. Most Americans don’t like race...

www.quora.com

He gets a late night call for which he could charge anything he wants and you blame the democrats. How does that work?

I do? I relayed a story. Explain how I blame anyone.

 

[Colin norris]

So my plumber is a great guy. Runs a small business with nine employees. He is in his late 30s. He and I frequently discuss politics and he is always riding me to lean more left. He believes that we should all have UH. To him Bill Gates should not receive better healthcare than Bill Smith a 60-year old farmer in Louisiana for example. He believes that we should have higher taxes, fewer loopholes and is glad to pay more to pay it forward. He especially believes we should open more trade schools in urban areas and teach more trades. Mind you he was never a leftist but a true Democrat.

Until today. So last night he was on a major job. He doesn't leave until it is done and that was around 3AM. Mind you het gets up at 6AM daily to go to work. So he is on little sleep and he calls me outraged. He got into his car and doesn't recall what channel it was but it was some Democrat discussing white privilege. Boom. He said he is now officially an Independent. Not a DJT guy but will now listen to more of his message. Believes the Democratic Party abandoned him.

It is interesting because he is a voter that the Democratic Party should go after and I doubt he is the only one they are losing due to their rhetoric.

I welcome your thoughts....

The Ideas That Are Reshaping The Democratic Party And America

Many Americans probably don’t know exactly what terms such as anti-racism, “cancel culture,” “racial equity,” “white privilege” and “systemic racism” mean. And …

fivethirtyeight.com

Why are so many voters leaving the Democratic party?

Answer (1 of 76): 1. The Democratic Party divides the American people based on race which makes people angry. They tell the black community they are truly oppressed and have no opportunity. 35% of the black community alone finds that ridiculous and voted republican. Most Americans don’t like race...

www.quora.com

He gets a late night call for which he could charge anything he wants and you blame the democrats. How does that work?

I do? I relayed a story. Explain how I blame anyone.

In fact, you were using it as a nasty swipe about democrats but itdidnt get past me.
Try again but use some tact.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

So my plumber is a great guy. Runs a small business with nine employees. He is in his late 30s. He and I frequently discuss politics and he is always riding me to lean more left. He believes that we should all have UH. To him Bill Gates should not receive better healthcare than Bill Smith a 60-year old farmer in Louisiana for example. He believes that we should have higher taxes, fewer loopholes and is glad to pay more to pay it forward. He especially believes we should open more trade schools in urban areas and teach more trades. Mind you he was never a leftist but a true Democrat.

Until today. So last night he was on a major job. He doesn't leave until it is done and that was around 3AM. Mind you het gets up at 6AM daily to go to work. So he is on little sleep and he calls me outraged. He got into his car and doesn't recall what channel it was but it was some Democrat discussing white privilege. Boom. He said he is now officially an Independent. Not a DJT guy but will now listen to more of his message. Believes the Democratic Party abandoned him.

It is interesting because he is a voter that the Democratic Party should go after and I doubt he is the only one they are losing due to their rhetoric.

I welcome your thoughts....

The Ideas That Are Reshaping The Democratic Party And America

Many Americans probably don’t know exactly what terms such as anti-racism, “cancel culture,” “racial equity,” “white privilege” and “systemic racism” mean. And …

fivethirtyeight.com

Why are so many voters leaving the Democratic party?

Answer (1 of 76): 1. The Democratic Party divides the American people based on race which makes people angry. They tell the black community they are truly oppressed and have no opportunity. 35% of the black community alone finds that ridiculous and voted republican. Most Americans don’t like race...

www.quora.com

He gets a late night call for which he could charge anything he wants and you blame the democrats. How does that work?

I do? I relayed a story. Explain how I blame anyone.

In fact, you were using it as a nasty swipe about democrats but itdidnt get past me.
Try again but use some tact.

If the truth is a nasty swipe in your eyes then the post is most successful.

 

[Colin norris]

So my plumber is a great guy. Runs a small business with nine employees. He is in his late 30s. He and I frequently discuss politics and he is always riding me to lean more left. He believes that we should all have UH. To him Bill Gates should not receive better healthcare than Bill Smith a 60-year old farmer in Louisiana for example. He believes that we should have higher taxes, fewer loopholes and is glad to pay more to pay it forward. He especially believes we should open more trade schools in urban areas and teach more trades. Mind you he was never a leftist but a true Democrat.

Until today. So last night he was on a major job. He doesn't leave until it is done and that was around 3AM. Mind you het gets up at 6AM daily to go to work. So he is on little sleep and he calls me outraged. He got into his car and doesn't recall what channel it was but it was some Democrat discussing white privilege. Boom. He said he is now officially an Independent. Not a DJT guy but will now listen to more of his message. Believes the Democratic Party abandoned him.

It is interesting because he is a voter that the Democratic Party should go after and I doubt he is the only one they are losing due to their rhetoric.

I welcome your thoughts....

The Ideas That Are Reshaping The Democratic Party And America

Many Americans probably don’t know exactly what terms such as anti-racism, “cancel culture,” “racial equity,” “white privilege” and “systemic racism” mean. And …

fivethirtyeight.com

Why are so many voters leaving the Democratic party?

Answer (1 of 76): 1. The Democratic Party divides the American people based on race which makes people angry. They tell the black community they are truly oppressed and have no opportunity. 35% of the black community alone finds that ridiculous and voted republican. Most Americans don’t like race...

www.quora.com

He gets a late night call for which he could charge anything he wants and you blame the democrats. How does that work?

I do? I relayed a story. Explain how I blame anyone.

In fact, you were using it as a nasty swipe about democrats but itdidnt get past me.
Try again but use some tact.

If the truth is a nasty swipe in your eyes then the post is most successful.

Not me son. You're getting nasty because I pinged you from the start. Don't take cheap shots like that while I'm watching. Have a nice day. I am.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

So my plumber is a great guy. Runs a small business with nine employees. He is in his late 30s. He and I frequently discuss politics and he is always riding me to lean more left. He believes that we should all have UH. To him Bill Gates should not receive better healthcare than Bill Smith a 60-year old farmer in Louisiana for example. He believes that we should have higher taxes, fewer loopholes and is glad to pay more to pay it forward. He especially believes we should open more trade schools in urban areas and teach more trades. Mind you he was never a leftist but a true Democrat.

Until today. So last night he was on a major job. He doesn't leave until it is done and that was around 3AM. Mind you het gets up at 6AM daily to go to work. So he is on little sleep and he calls me outraged. He got into his car and doesn't recall what channel it was but it was some Democrat discussing white privilege. Boom. He said he is now officially an Independent. Not a DJT guy but will now listen to more of his message. Believes the Democratic Party abandoned him.

It is interesting because he is a voter that the Democratic Party should go after and I doubt he is the only one they are losing due to their rhetoric.

I welcome your thoughts....

The Ideas That Are Reshaping The Democratic Party And America

Many Americans probably don’t know exactly what terms such as anti-racism, “cancel culture,” “racial equity,” “white privilege” and “systemic racism” mean. And …

fivethirtyeight.com

Why are so many voters leaving the Democratic party?

Answer (1 of 76): 1. The Democratic Party divides the American people based on race which makes people angry. They tell the black community they are truly oppressed and have no opportunity. 35% of the black community alone finds that ridiculous and voted republican. Most Americans don’t like race...

www.quora.com

He gets a late night call for which he could charge anything he wants and you blame the democrats. How does that work?

I do? I relayed a story. Explain how I blame anyone.

In fact, you were using it as a nasty swipe about democrats but itdidnt get past me.
Try again but use some tact.

If the truth is a nasty swipe in your eyes then the post is most successful.

Not me son. You're getting nasty because I pinged you from the start. Don't take cheap shots like that while I'm watching. Have a nice day. I am.

Cheap shots? You equate the truth with cheap shots? I am not your son, old man. And you’re triggered. Typical leftist snowflake. If you weren’t triggered you would not be opining.

 

[playtime]

You said Melania was immoral for posing nude and then you defend those who kill unborn babies as being moral.

that's a lie. i never used the word 'immoral' to describe melania nor used the word 'moral' re: abortion.

what i did do - was describe what she had done in the past. FACTUAL things. all which i can back up. see how that works?

lying is the #1 no no in a debate. i never lie. you just did TWICE.

deflection would/should be #2 in that list of poor debating skills. just like you did by throwing in the kitchen sink on that MASKLESS in MA thread, you are trying to deflect yet again - - - right here.

that would be a big FAIL on yer part, zoggy. guess we all have our weakness'.

That is precisely what you said. You said morality matters. So you implied she was immoral. My only weakness is my kids. I cannot tell people to F Off like I would like to. I am undefeated in debates vs. you. Mrs. Morality LOL.

Azog: Democratic Party just voted against sanctions against countries that support Hamas. How do you explain that?

Playtime: I can't


Quite the debater you are. LOL

moving the goal posts is #3 on the 'how not to debate effectively ' list.

' implied' vs 'you said' = you lied when you stated that is what i said.

azog: Democratic Party just voted against sanctions against countries that support Hamas. How do you explain that?

outstanding me: i can't

why? why do you ask? let's see shall we?

A) i'm not a (D)

B) i can't debate something when i don't know nor want to know all the facts surrounding that particular subject. now- you'll seize on that & sooner or later call me antisemitic.; which is indicative or yer stellar debating skills... right zogerino?

C) i could have turned the tables & moved the goal posts like you love to do in said stellar debating skills - by diverting the actual 'debate' subject; & throw in a deflection of my own by asking:

why do the (R)s do biz'nez with a country that supports forced abortions, allowing tax loopholes the size of manhatten to exist so BIGCORP can have most of there sweatshops there & don't want to pay american worker bees a living wage... & god FORBID - unionise ?

D) ...





^^^ now what? mr. 'i'll vote for a dude twice despite showing any sense of ethics who will say & do whatever it takes to stay 'on top'?


so, there you go.

Ethics are subjective. Name one of his policies that were “unethical”. You argue ethnics but support killing of unborn babies. You say you’re not an(D) but can’t name one (R) you would vote for. Feigning ignorance is an interesting tactic. So you don’t know who Ilhan Omar is?

i've voted for several (R)s over the years. local & state but couldn't for national because none appealed enough for me. want some names? i'd love for you to google them....

Give me the names please

several local town counsel members where i live now are (R)s

but others in the past were john rowland - for gov'nor.

jody rell - for gov'nor

joe santopietro - mayor

phil giordano - mayor

3 outa those 4 ended up in prison. go ahead & google 'em ... i sure wouldn't admt to voting for 'em if i was lying. lol ... that last one is a doosey. i will take back what i said about not voting for anyone on the national level - i almost forgot john huntsman who i seriously considered, but he dropped outa the prez race.

 

[playtime]

So we discussed this before and you're dishonest yet again.

<buzzer> wrong. i don't need to be dishonest... but youuuuuuu doooooooooooo................

I asked you to name a policy or policies of his that I would dislike or you dislike and you always go back to character.

<buzzer> wrong. i have.... & i even jumped in the last time unsolicited; but apparently that wasn't good enough, because you didn't ask me di-rectly. the latest i could find being just over a month ago:

Biden got 81 million votes because trump was just that unpopular and hated, right?

post#75

To me character is not as important as policy support.

lol ... you have made that abundantly clear.

Don’t link it as it’s someone else’s POV in your words what policies did you dislike and why?

donny raped the environment. air, water AND soil. he took fed land - PROTECTED land & hd appointed peope that were the very antithesis of the depts they were in charge of. betsy devos for sec of education? the oil dude who SUED the EPA was appointed t head the EPA? ben carson who turned down HHS because it was too difficult ( but ran for prez ) then becomes sec of HUD? yaaaaaaaaaaa we know why that happened. AND he was able to appoint 3 SC judges that will most likely turn over roe v wade come the fall.

please.

Those aren’t policies? What specific policies did you dislike? No one is overturning the unborn baby killing law. Stop it.

when i posted the roll back of the EPA laws protecting the environment on the other thread, that wasn't good enough. now you are changing the goalposts...

arsenic & mercury in the water is now allowed at much higher levels.

yum yum. i sure hope roe v wade stays legal. but it's not looking good.

 

[playtime]

You said Melania was immoral for posing nude and then you defend those who kill unborn babies as being moral.

that's a lie. i never used the word 'immoral' to describe melania nor used the word 'moral' re: abortion.

what i did do - was describe what she had done in the past. FACTUAL things. all which i can back up. see how that works?

lying is the #1 no no in a debate. i never lie. you just did TWICE.

deflection would/should be #2 in that list of poor debating skills. just like you did by throwing in the kitchen sink on that MASKLESS in MA thread, you are trying to deflect yet again - - - right here.

that would be a big FAIL on yer part, zoggy. guess we all have our weakness'.

That is precisely what you said. You said morality matters. So you implied she was immoral. My only weakness is my kids. I cannot tell people to F Off like I would like to. I am undefeated in debates vs. you. Mrs. Morality LOL.

Azog: Democratic Party just voted against sanctions against countries that support Hamas. How do you explain that?

Playtime: I can't


Quite the debater you are. LOL

moving the goal posts is #3 on the 'how not to debate effectively ' list.

' implied' vs 'you said' = you lied when you stated that is what i said.

azog: Democratic Party just voted against sanctions against countries that support Hamas. How do you explain that?

outstanding me: i can't

why? why do you ask? let's see shall we?

A) i'm not a (D)

B) i can't debate something when i don't know nor want to know all the facts surrounding that particular subject. now- you'll seize on that & sooner or later call me antisemitic.; which is indicative or yer stellar debating skills... right zogerino?

C) i could have turned the tables & moved the goal posts like you love to do in said stellar debating skills - by diverting the actual 'debate' subject; & throw in a deflection of my own by asking:

why do the (R)s do biz'nez with a country that supports forced abortions, allowing tax loopholes the size of manhatten to exist so BIGCORP can have most of there sweatshops there & don't want to pay american worker bees a living wage... & god FORBID - unionise ?

D) ...





^^^ now what? mr. 'i'll vote for a dude twice despite showing any sense of ethics who will say & do whatever it takes to stay 'on top'?


so, there you go.

Ethics are subjective. Name one of his policies that were “unethical”. You argue ethnics but support killing of unborn babies. You say you’re not an(D) but can’t name one (R) you would vote for. Feigning ignorance is an interesting tactic. So you don’t know who Ilhan Omar is?

& one more thing, zogsterrrrrrrr............ i have much more respect for stormy daniels - the HARD CORE porn star than i ever would for donny. at least she has empathy & humanity... something the chosen one could never muster. he is simply incapable of it;just as all sociopaths cannot.

I agree and I want the sociopath as my representative. We need a fighter. Many CEOs btw are sociopaths. Look it up.

sad.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You said Melania was immoral for posing nude and then you defend those who kill unborn babies as being moral.

that's a lie. i never used the word 'immoral' to describe melania nor used the word 'moral' re: abortion.

what i did do - was describe what she had done in the past. FACTUAL things. all which i can back up. see how that works?

lying is the #1 no no in a debate. i never lie. you just did TWICE.

deflection would/should be #2 in that list of poor debating skills. just like you did by throwing in the kitchen sink on that MASKLESS in MA thread, you are trying to deflect yet again - - - right here.

that would be a big FAIL on yer part, zoggy. guess we all have our weakness'.

That is precisely what you said. You said morality matters. So you implied she was immoral. My only weakness is my kids. I cannot tell people to F Off like I would like to. I am undefeated in debates vs. you. Mrs. Morality LOL.

Azog: Democratic Party just voted against sanctions against countries that support Hamas. How do you explain that?

Playtime: I can't


Quite the debater you are. LOL

moving the goal posts is #3 on the 'how not to debate effectively ' list.

' implied' vs 'you said' = you lied when you stated that is what i said.

azog: Democratic Party just voted against sanctions against countries that support Hamas. How do you explain that?

outstanding me: i can't

why? why do you ask? let's see shall we?

A) i'm not a (D)

B) i can't debate something when i don't know nor want to know all the facts surrounding that particular subject. now- you'll seize on that & sooner or later call me antisemitic.; which is indicative or yer stellar debating skills... right zogerino?

C) i could have turned the tables & moved the goal posts like you love to do in said stellar debating skills - by diverting the actual 'debate' subject; & throw in a deflection of my own by asking:

why do the (R)s do biz'nez with a country that supports forced abortions, allowing tax loopholes the size of manhatten to exist so BIGCORP can have most of there sweatshops there & don't want to pay american worker bees a living wage... & god FORBID - unionise ?

D) ...





^^^ now what? mr. 'i'll vote for a dude twice despite showing any sense of ethics who will say & do whatever it takes to stay 'on top'?


so, there you go.

Ethics are subjective. Name one of his policies that were “unethical”. You argue ethnics but support killing of unborn babies. You say you’re not an(D) but can’t name one (R) you would vote for. Feigning ignorance is an interesting tactic. So you don’t know who Ilhan Omar is?

i've voted for several (R)s over the years. local & state but couldn't for national because none appealed enough for me. want some names? i'd love for you to google them....

Give me the names please

several local town counsel members where i live now are (R)s

but others in the past were john rowland - for gov'nor.

jody rell - for gov'nor

joe santopietro - mayor

phil giordano - mayor

3 outa those 4 ended up in prison. go ahead & google 'em ... i sure wouldn't admt to voting for 'em if i was lying. lol ... that last one is a doosey. i will take back what i said about not voting for anyone on the national level - i almost forgot john huntsman who i seriously considered, but he dropped outa the prez race.

You’re from Waterbury? OMG!!!

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You said Melania was immoral for posing nude and then you defend those who kill unborn babies as being moral.

that's a lie. i never used the word 'immoral' to describe melania nor used the word 'moral' re: abortion.

what i did do - was describe what she had done in the past. FACTUAL things. all which i can back up. see how that works?

lying is the #1 no no in a debate. i never lie. you just did TWICE.

deflection would/should be #2 in that list of poor debating skills. just like you did by throwing in the kitchen sink on that MASKLESS in MA thread, you are trying to deflect yet again - - - right here.

that would be a big FAIL on yer part, zoggy. guess we all have our weakness'.

That is precisely what you said. You said morality matters. So you implied she was immoral. My only weakness is my kids. I cannot tell people to F Off like I would like to. I am undefeated in debates vs. you. Mrs. Morality LOL.

Azog: Democratic Party just voted against sanctions against countries that support Hamas. How do you explain that?

Playtime: I can't


Quite the debater you are. LOL

moving the goal posts is #3 on the 'how not to debate effectively ' list.

' implied' vs 'you said' = you lied when you stated that is what i said.

azog: Democratic Party just voted against sanctions against countries that support Hamas. How do you explain that?

outstanding me: i can't

why? why do you ask? let's see shall we?

A) i'm not a (D)

B) i can't debate something when i don't know nor want to know all the facts surrounding that particular subject. now- you'll seize on that & sooner or later call me antisemitic.; which is indicative or yer stellar debating skills... right zogerino?

C) i could have turned the tables & moved the goal posts like you love to do in said stellar debating skills - by diverting the actual 'debate' subject; & throw in a deflection of my own by asking:

why do the (R)s do biz'nez with a country that supports forced abortions, allowing tax loopholes the size of manhatten to exist so BIGCORP can have most of there sweatshops there & don't want to pay american worker bees a living wage... & god FORBID - unionise ?

D) ...





^^^ now what? mr. 'i'll vote for a dude twice despite showing any sense of ethics who will say & do whatever it takes to stay 'on top'?


so, there you go.

Ethics are subjective. Name one of his policies that were “unethical”. You argue ethnics but support killing of unborn babies. You say you’re not an(D) but can’t name one (R) you would vote for. Feigning ignorance is an interesting tactic. So you don’t know who Ilhan Omar is?

& one more thing, zogsterrrrrrrr............ i have much more respect for stormy daniels - the HARD CORE porn star than i ever would for donny. at least she has empathy & humanity... something the chosen one could never muster. he is simply incapable of it;just as all sociopaths cannot.

I agree and I want the sociopath as my representative. We need a fighter. Many CEOs btw are sociopaths. Look it up.

sad.

But true. I do this for a living. These people would sell their firstborn for an extra 100bps of Gross Margin.

 

[citygator]

Well. There’s your plumber poll and then there is a real poll.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

So we discussed this before and you're dishonest yet again.

<buzzer> wrong. i don't need to be dishonest... but youuuuuuu doooooooooooo................

I asked you to name a policy or policies of his that I would dislike or you dislike and you always go back to character.

<buzzer> wrong. i have.... & i even jumped in the last time unsolicited; but apparently that wasn't good enough, because you didn't ask me di-rectly. the latest i could find being just over a month ago:

Biden got 81 million votes because trump was just that unpopular and hated, right?

post#75

To me character is not as important as policy support.

lol ... you have made that abundantly clear.

Don’t link it as it’s someone else’s POV in your words what policies did you dislike and why?

donny raped the environment. air, water AND soil. he took fed land - PROTECTED land & hd appointed peope that were the very antithesis of the depts they were in charge of. betsy devos for sec of education? the oil dude who SUED the EPA was appointed t head the EPA? ben carson who turned down HHS because it was too difficult ( but ran for prez ) then becomes sec of HUD? yaaaaaaaaaaa we know why that happened. AND he was able to appoint 3 SC judges that will most likely turn over roe v wade come the fall.

please.

Those aren’t policies? What specific policies did you dislike? No one is overturning the unborn baby killing law. Stop it.

when i posted the roll back of the EPA laws protecting the environment on the other thread, that wasn't good enough. now you are changing the goalposts...

arsenic & mercury in the water is now allowed at much higher levels.

yum yum. i sure hope roe v wade stays legal. but it's not looking good.

Link it. That was due to Trump? It will remain legal.

 

[playtime]

You said Melania was immoral for posing nude and then you defend those who kill unborn babies as being moral.

that's a lie. i never used the word 'immoral' to describe melania nor used the word 'moral' re: abortion.

what i did do - was describe what she had done in the past. FACTUAL things. all which i can back up. see how that works?

lying is the #1 no no in a debate. i never lie. you just did TWICE.

deflection would/should be #2 in that list of poor debating skills. just like you did by throwing in the kitchen sink on that MASKLESS in MA thread, you are trying to deflect yet again - - - right here.

that would be a big FAIL on yer part, zoggy. guess we all have our weakness'.

That is precisely what you said. You said morality matters. So you implied she was immoral. My only weakness is my kids. I cannot tell people to F Off like I would like to. I am undefeated in debates vs. you. Mrs. Morality LOL.

Azog: Democratic Party just voted against sanctions against countries that support Hamas. How do you explain that?

Playtime: I can't


Quite the debater you are. LOL

moving the goal posts is #3 on the 'how not to debate effectively ' list.

' implied' vs 'you said' = you lied when you stated that is what i said.

azog: Democratic Party just voted against sanctions against countries that support Hamas. How do you explain that?

outstanding me: i can't

why? why do you ask? let's see shall we?

A) i'm not a (D)

B) i can't debate something when i don't know nor want to know all the facts surrounding that particular subject. now- you'll seize on that & sooner or later call me antisemitic.; which is indicative or yer stellar debating skills... right zogerino?

C) i could have turned the tables & moved the goal posts like you love to do in said stellar debating skills - by diverting the actual 'debate' subject; & throw in a deflection of my own by asking:

why do the (R)s do biz'nez with a country that supports forced abortions, allowing tax loopholes the size of manhatten to exist so BIGCORP can have most of there sweatshops there & don't want to pay american worker bees a living wage... & god FORBID - unionise ?

D) ...





^^^ now what? mr. 'i'll vote for a dude twice despite showing any sense of ethics who will say & do whatever it takes to stay 'on top'?


so, there you go.

Ethics are subjective. Name one of his policies that were “unethical”. You argue ethnics but support killing of unborn babies. You say you’re not an(D) but can’t name one (R) you would vote for. Feigning ignorance is an interesting tactic. So you don’t know who Ilhan Omar is?

i've voted for several (R)s over the years. local & state but couldn't for national because none appealed enough for me. want some names? i'd love for you to google them....

Give me the names please

several local town counsel members where i live now are (R)s

but others in the past were john rowland - for gov'nor.

jody rell - for gov'nor

joe santopietro - mayor

phil giordano - mayor

3 outa those 4 ended up in prison. go ahead & google 'em ... i sure wouldn't admt to voting for 'em if i was lying. lol ... that last one is a doosey. i will take back what i said about not voting for anyone on the national level - i almost forgot john huntsman who i seriously considered, but he dropped outa the prez race.

You’re from Waterbury? OMG!!!

born & raised but moved in 1996. do you know the place?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Well. There’s your plumber poll and then there is a real poll.

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You said Melania was immoral for posing nude and then you defend those who kill unborn babies as being moral.

that's a lie. i never used the word 'immoral' to describe melania nor used the word 'moral' re: abortion.

what i did do - was describe what she had done in the past. FACTUAL things. all which i can back up. see how that works?

lying is the #1 no no in a debate. i never lie. you just did TWICE.

deflection would/should be #2 in that list of poor debating skills. just like you did by throwing in the kitchen sink on that MASKLESS in MA thread, you are trying to deflect yet again - - - right here.

that would be a big FAIL on yer part, zoggy. guess we all have our weakness'.

That is precisely what you said. You said morality matters. So you implied she was immoral. My only weakness is my kids. I cannot tell people to F Off like I would like to. I am undefeated in debates vs. you. Mrs. Morality LOL.

Azog: Democratic Party just voted against sanctions against countries that support Hamas. How do you explain that?

Playtime: I can't


Quite the debater you are. LOL

moving the goal posts is #3 on the 'how not to debate effectively ' list.

' implied' vs 'you said' = you lied when you stated that is what i said.

azog: Democratic Party just voted against sanctions against countries that support Hamas. How do you explain that?

outstanding me: i can't

why? why do you ask? let's see shall we?

A) i'm not a (D)

B) i can't debate something when i don't know nor want to know all the facts surrounding that particular subject. now- you'll seize on that & sooner or later call me antisemitic.; which is indicative or yer stellar debating skills... right zogerino?

C) i could have turned the tables & moved the goal posts like you love to do in said stellar debating skills - by diverting the actual 'debate' subject; & throw in a deflection of my own by asking:

why do the (R)s do biz'nez with a country that supports forced abortions, allowing tax loopholes the size of manhatten to exist so BIGCORP can have most of there sweatshops there & don't want to pay american worker bees a living wage... & god FORBID - unionise ?

D) ...





^^^ now what? mr. 'i'll vote for a dude twice despite showing any sense of ethics who will say & do whatever it takes to stay 'on top'?


so, there you go.

Ethics are subjective. Name one of his policies that were “unethical”. You argue ethnics but support killing of unborn babies. You say you’re not an(D) but can’t name one (R) you would vote for. Feigning ignorance is an interesting tactic. So you don’t know who Ilhan Omar is?

i've voted for several (R)s over the years. local & state but couldn't for national because none appealed enough for me. want some names? i'd love for you to google them....

Give me the names please

several local town counsel members where i live now are (R)s

but others in the past were john rowland - for gov'nor.

jody rell - for gov'nor

joe santopietro - mayor

phil giordano - mayor

3 outa those 4 ended up in prison. go ahead & google 'em ... i sure wouldn't admt to voting for 'em if i was lying. lol ... that last one is a doosey. i will take back what i said about not voting for anyone on the national level - i almost forgot john huntsman who i seriously considered, but he dropped outa the prez race.

You’re from Waterbury? OMG!!!

born & raised but moved in 1996. do you know the place?

Indeed…..blue collar Italian

 

[Indeependent]

Well. There’s your plumber poll and then there is a real poll.

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Plumbers only work through a union vote D, the others vote R.
Both work hard and both have suffered job losses from bipartisan legislation.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Well. There’s your plumber poll and then there is a real poll.

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You’re a moron. I am providing a real life example not some biased poll and I am not using it as statistical data just an anecdotal story. Are you ever not a complete moron?

 

[playtime]

So we discussed this before and you're dishonest yet again.

<buzzer> wrong. i don't need to be dishonest... but youuuuuuu doooooooooooo................

I asked you to name a policy or policies of his that I would dislike or you dislike and you always go back to character.

<buzzer> wrong. i have.... & i even jumped in the last time unsolicited; but apparently that wasn't good enough, because you didn't ask me di-rectly. the latest i could find being just over a month ago:

Biden got 81 million votes because trump was just that unpopular and hated, right?

post#75

To me character is not as important as policy support.

lol ... you have made that abundantly clear.

Don’t link it as it’s someone else’s POV in your words what policies did you dislike and why?

donny raped the environment. air, water AND soil. he took fed land - PROTECTED land & hd appointed peope that were the very antithesis of the depts they were in charge of. betsy devos for sec of education? the oil dude who SUED the EPA was appointed t head the EPA? ben carson who turned down HHS because it was too difficult ( but ran for prez ) then becomes sec of HUD? yaaaaaaaaaaa we know why that happened. AND he was able to appoint 3 SC judges that will most likely turn over roe v wade come the fall.

please.

Those aren’t policies? What specific policies did you dislike? No one is overturning the unborn baby killing law. Stop it.

when i posted the roll back of the EPA laws protecting the environment on the other thread, that wasn't good enough. now you are changing the goalposts...

arsenic & mercury in the water is now allowed at much higher levels.

yum yum. i sure hope roe v wade stays legal. but it's not looking good.

Link it. That was due to Trump? It will remain legal.

link what? EPA or that he appointed 3 SC judges swinging the court to the right & the handmaid might just hammer that last nail down tight.

take yer pick:

trump EPA deregs - Google Search

 

[John T. Ford]

My parents were Democrats. Then the party went ape shit in 1972.

My parents voted Republican to the day they died.

Now they vote Democrat.

 

[playtime]

You said Melania was immoral for posing nude and then you defend those who kill unborn babies as being moral.

that's a lie. i never used the word 'immoral' to describe melania nor used the word 'moral' re: abortion.

what i did do - was describe what she had done in the past. FACTUAL things. all which i can back up. see how that works?

lying is the #1 no no in a debate. i never lie. you just did TWICE.

deflection would/should be #2 in that list of poor debating skills. just like you did by throwing in the kitchen sink on that MASKLESS in MA thread, you are trying to deflect yet again - - - right here.

that would be a big FAIL on yer part, zoggy. guess we all have our weakness'.

That is precisely what you said. You said morality matters. So you implied she was immoral. My only weakness is my kids. I cannot tell people to F Off like I would like to. I am undefeated in debates vs. you. Mrs. Morality LOL.

Azog: Democratic Party just voted against sanctions against countries that support Hamas. How do you explain that?

Playtime: I can't


Quite the debater you are. LOL

moving the goal posts is #3 on the 'how not to debate effectively ' list.

' implied' vs 'you said' = you lied when you stated that is what i said.

azog: Democratic Party just voted against sanctions against countries that support Hamas. How do you explain that?

outstanding me: i can't

why? why do you ask? let's see shall we?

A) i'm not a (D)

B) i can't debate something when i don't know nor want to know all the facts surrounding that particular subject. now- you'll seize on that & sooner or later call me antisemitic.; which is indicative or yer stellar debating skills... right zogerino?

C) i could have turned the tables & moved the goal posts like you love to do in said stellar debating skills - by diverting the actual 'debate' subject; & throw in a deflection of my own by asking:

why do the (R)s do biz'nez with a country that supports forced abortions, allowing tax loopholes the size of manhatten to exist so BIGCORP can have most of there sweatshops there & don't want to pay american worker bees a living wage... & god FORBID - unionise ?

D) ...





^^^ now what? mr. 'i'll vote for a dude twice despite showing any sense of ethics who will say & do whatever it takes to stay 'on top'?


so, there you go.

Ethics are subjective. Name one of his policies that were “unethical”. You argue ethnics but support killing of unborn babies. You say you’re not an(D) but can’t name one (R) you would vote for. Feigning ignorance is an interesting tactic. So you don’t know who Ilhan Omar is?

& one more thing, zogsterrrrrrrr............ i have much more respect for stormy daniels - the HARD CORE porn star than i ever would for donny. at least she has empathy & humanity... something the chosen one could never muster. he is simply incapable of it;just as all sociopaths cannot.

I agree and I want the sociopath as my representative. We need a fighter. Many CEOs btw are sociopaths. Look it up.

sad.

But true. I do this for a living. These people would sell their firstborn for an extra 100bps of Gross Margin.

i know what you said about CEO being sociopaths.

i was saying sad that you want one as a leader.