My Non-Nerd Review of Windows 10

[longknife]

So is it worth it or not?

You aren't losing a thing by upgrading.

But is there a point?
I need something a bit more tangible than "not losing".

How 'bout the old reliable question that keeps Facebook away:
"What does this give me that I don't already have?"

A browser it tries to force feed you, but I forced it to let me use Chrome instead.
An email program I haven't tried yet because I like my outlook express.
Forcing me to switch programs to admin mode or they crash.
A spy on my computer browsing habits keeping tags on everything I do.
A cloud to keep all my programs on so I can use the same programs on multiple computers depending on where I log on at, which I disabled because I'm never on more than one computer.
A cloud to store my iphone data, which I had with 7.0 so no change. Saved my ass once when my phone quit working.
Everyone wants me to give them my passwords to stick up in their clouds, msn and norton, so they can control my access to stuff. What do I do if they go through a denial attack or are hacked? I don't think so.
A new way to ask for help, Cortana, which I haven't tried much yet. It usually just sends me to a browser search routine giving me info for windows 8 instead of windows 10 when I tried it.
Interesting ways to crash windows like clicking on cloud before it's fully loaded. Reminds me of the old windows for workgroups days.
Removed all of my color customizations from all of my folders so they all look bland white and offwhite.
Separate desktops for both my monitors. That was awesome.

Oh and OP you want someone to read your review post it here or don't post it cuzz I'm not clicking your damn link.

Okay, you asked so here it is:

My Non-Nerd Review of Windows 10


As I'm already running Win8.1 – and probably didn't know better – I signed up for the free release. On the morning of the 29th, I read something warning me to back up my PC so I started by erasing everything on my backup thumb drive – 3 blasted hours! That was followed by transferring my Documents, Music, Pictures, and Video to the back up – another darned 3 hours.

At last, I was ready. I clicked on the little icon and the bottom of the page and the impressive Win10 screen showed up asking me if I was ready. Yes, of course, and it took me to the common User Agreement which I agreed to. Then I got Preparing to Download.

Not too bad. 20-30 minutes or so. I then went through the next step and the screen suddenly turned that MS blue with the little dingy running around in a small circle. Time to watch the Boob Tube.

Took maybe 30 more minutes but it kept giving me little tidbits about what was going on along with warnings not to turn off my PC.

And then – the big thing with date came up and I clicked the space bar. An impressive picture followed the screen to sign into my account. Once that was done, I ended up going through another 30 minute wait while I was told the system was being personalized for me.

At last, all of a sudden my same desktop as before showed up with a brand new icon on the lower left showing new windows icons.

Didn't lose a single program or shortcut!

I did gain a totally different start bar or whatever it's called.

Guess I no longer need to open a browser to do a search as Cordana is right there at the bottom along with an icon for Edge – which I used a couple of times and appears a lot friendlier and easier to use than IE.

My only problem comes when opening the MS symbol at the bottom left as it is nothing like Win8.1 and it took me some time to figure out how to find my Control Panel – Cordana showed me where it was and how to open it.

So, what's my overall impression?

Not a lot. I browse and write and it doesn't seem the least bit different than before. Neither faster nor slower, not harder nor easier.

I guess there are features the nerds or gamers will like but they don't seem to affect m. I still have the same software and did 't lost a single file.
The only thing that ticks me off is MS being so darned cheap that they no longer include a free word processor package – but certainly give you lots of chances to buy their MSOffice along with tons and tons of apps.

So, if you're on the edge and can't make up your mind – why not? Go ahead. You have nothing to lose beyond the time it takes to do the conversion.
Oh yeah, here's another techie review @ I Used Windows 10 And Survived And You Can Too Popular Science

A Few More Non-Nerd Views of Windows 10
The one thing I find convenient about it is the Cortana search in the bar on the bottom of the screen. If I want something from my PC, I type it in and indicate it's in my PC. If it's something from the web, I simply hit return or any other key. The default search engine is Bing as it's an MS product. And I generally like the Bing start page with its great images.

Edge – or IE11 – whatever they want to call it, doesn't thrill me. It's okay as the default so Cortana goes to it. But I prefer Opera and Firefox as my everyday browsers. My major problem with Edge is the options for capturing images – it only lets you copy the link and not in jpg. Format.

The Start Page has a good news feed but I have other news feeds I prefer.

I don't find it one bit faster than 8.1 and actually get frustrated that the updates seem to take so long.

I guess it just takes a bit of getting accustomed to.

 

[XPostFacto]

A Few More Non-Nerd Views of Windows 10




I don't find it one bit faster than 8.1 and actually get frustrated that the updates seem to take so long.


I guess it just takes a bit of getting accustomed to.

I also don't like it that you have no idea how large the updates are going to be. I need to know to keep from having my account put in restriction, something that lately has been occurring mostly every month, now. Microsoft updates are getting way too big, and there is way too much being downloaded. Just this past month, it seemed like every other day, Microsoft was pushing another update.

I went to Settings and made it that they had to notify me of updates and give ME the option of having them automatically doing it or my doing it when I want. There was a security update today and I was able to get the specifics of it before downloading

How about posting how you got to" Settings" and then post how you told Microsoft that you don't want them to automatically update your system. I had to go in on my desktop account and run the gpedit.msc app just to get ride of automatic updates. With the Windows 10 Basic that I have on my laptop, the gpedit app doesn't even exist. I tried changing the registry and then installing a gpedit file for Windows 8 that doesn't seem to be compatible with Windows 10 because it doesn't change the updates.

Click on the little Windows icon on the far left bottom tool bar. Click on Settings, then click on Update & Security. The top section on the left is Windows Update – click on that and you will find Advanced Setting which will give you the choice of accepting them when Windows wants to be notified first.

Well, I discovered the Settings app on the lower left hand corner if you click the desktop icon, by accident because I was always using the last icon on the lower far right of the screen. With that said, my laptop has the home version of 10, and there is no way to change from automatic downloads. The only way I could do it was go into the Wi-Fi section and set the PC for a metered connection. Then again, since I don't use the laptop that much, it's probably a moot point.

My desktop, which has the professional version of Windows 10 gave me no way to opt out, until I ran gpedit.msc and turned off automatic updates. Even downloading that app onto my laptop, though, and changing the registry had no effect on preventing automatic updates. I understand what Microsoft has done by requiring everyone to receive updates automatically at the same time to combat hacking attempts and viruses, but to those of us with Internet caps, it presents a problem.

Thanks for the info, just the same, though. I was new with 10 and really didn't know how to get around in it, at first. I'm beginning to find my way around in it, but I don't like what I see.

 

[Uncensored2008]

So is it worth it or not?

It's free, and provides a more Windows 7 like interface.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I've been on the general release for about 3 weeks now, here is my impression from two standpoints, Windows 7, and 8.

Pros:

• The settings page. Far more intuitive than the Control panel. A simple example, I have a blue tooth mouse. Under Windows 7, where did I set that up? Mice? Nope, blue tooth devices. Windows 10 uses a drill down, so blue tooth devices naturally follow a path, and the mouse shows as a blue tooth, which it is, and as a mouse. It seems small, but this is the kind of improvements that are all through 10.
• Start Button. I knew from the preview that the Windows 10 start button would be better than Metro under 8, what I didn't know is that it would actually be better than the start button in 7. By combining Metro with the classic Start, Microsoft has exceeded the functionality of both. Windows 7 moved commonly accessed programs to the top, but making these Metro tiles with associated documents is just another layer of depthy
• Pretty much bug free. No show stoppers to be found.

Cons

• Multiple display support. Granted, this is as much Nvidia as Microsoft. But in the first case I blame the Vole. Why does the background only change on the primary display? Is the second monitor not a concern? Why can I not use panoramic backgrounds with different display parameters. Yes, I have a high res 2550 X 1440 on one screen, does that have to cripple the 1080P screen?
• Start menu on every screen. The second display is an extension of the first, I don't need a start button on it.
• Screen flipping. Microsoft copied the Linux guys and added multiple virtual desktops. Even under Linux I find this less useful than the task manager in 7. Minimize and park on the task bar, then flip through hundreds of windows. Displaying these as "screens" does nothing useful. Microsoft broke the elegance of the task switcher from Aeroglass.
• I want Aero with all the transparencies and peek functionality - dammit. Yes, there are third party fixes, but I want it out of the box.
• This may be drivers, but I lost an average of 10 FPS from 7 to 10 on the same hardware and same clockings. Again, this may be addressed by drivers.
• Cortana - not fair really. It isn't that Cortana is bad, it's just that Cortana is nothing - really. It's just the Bing search from 8 with an new name.

 

[Iceweasel]

Screen flipping. Microsoft copied the Linux guys and added multiple virtual desktops. Even under Linux I find this less useful than the task manager in 7. Minimize and park on the task bar, then flip through hundreds of windows. Displaying these as "screens" does nothing useful. Microsoft broke the elegance of the task switcher from Aeroglass.

If you're talking about multiple desktops they are very useful. I leave my programs the size I want and just switch to the desktop. You can minimize anything on any desktop, there's no downside.

 

[Uncensored2008]

If you're talking about multiple desktops they are very useful. I leave my programs the size I want and just switch to the desktop. You can minimize anything on any desktop, there's no downside.

Aero provided the properly sized windows from the Vista days on. Multiple desktops are cool - on a smart phone. The task browser was superior in 7 to Gnu and Winten versions.

 

[Iceweasel]

Aero provided the properly sized windows from the Vista days on. Multiple desktops are cool - on a smart phone. The task browser was superior in 7 to Gnu and Winten versions.

I'm using 4 desktops with two monitors. Explain the downside to having 8 virtual monitors.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I'm using 4 desktops with two monitors. Explain the downside to having 8 virtual monitors.

I have 30 Windows open, sized as I desire. I can flip through them at will. Explain why I want to limit myself to desktops?

 

[Iceweasel]

I'm using 4 desktops with two monitors. Explain the downside to having 8 virtual monitors.

I have 30 Windows open, sized as I desire. I can flip through them at will. Explain why I want to limit myself to desktops?

Because it takes one second for me, no flipping through a bunch of shit.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Because it takes one second for me, no flipping through a bunch of shit.

???

 

[Iceweasel]

Because it takes one second for me, no flipping through a bunch of shit.

???

View attachment 47658

Jesus Christ. I click on the program on Cairo or switch to the desktop. It takes literally one second. LOL

 

[Uncensored2008]

ROFL

I'm on Ubuntu as I write this, the Workspaces icon is less functional - You're going all fanboi instead of looking at things rationally.

 

[Uncensored2008]

 

[Bleipriester]

I click on the icons I want to to click on, whether I am using Windows or any other OS.

 

[Ringel05]

Back on Window 10 I just discovered something very disturbing something I told someone else wasn't true but turns out it is. The Win 10 upgrade will start loading itself automatically after bootup if you don't catch it and stop it and the only way to get rid of it is with a hard reset. One more Microsoft fuck-up, one more reason to stop using M$.

 

[Pogo]

Back on Window 10 I just discovered something very disturbing something I told someone else wasn't true but turns out it is. The Win 10 upgrade will start loading itself automatically after bootup if you don't catch it and stop it and the only way to get rid of it is with a hard reset. One more Microsoft fuck-up, one more reason to stop using M$.

That's how I got Windblows 8 after buying the rig with 7. One night it just morphed, without so much as a by-your-leave.

I keep getting pop-ups recommending I "reserve a copy" of 10 while it's free. That kind of indicates there will be a time when they charge for it. I don't believe that's the case at all but I wish it were. Then all we'd have to do is nothing.

Greedy control freak fascist bastids....
Here's a pop-up message I'd like to have come up in front of Bill Gates:

 

[Pogo]

The Win 10 upgrade will start loading itself automatically after bootup if you don't catch it and stop it

Actually I have (yet another) "update" scheduled to boot up today. Maybe I should deliberately kick it in so I can intercept it? Will that even be possible?

 

[Ringel05]

The Win 10 upgrade will start loading itself automatically after bootup if you don't catch it and stop it

Actually I have (yet another) "update" scheduled to boot up today. Maybe I should deliberately kick it in so I can intercept it? Will that even be possible?

Now I don't know if this will work or not, go to Check for Updates (in Settings since you have Win 8), look for Update History and find update kb3035583. If it's there right click on it and see if it gives you the option to delete it. You may have to find a way to open the updates as Administrator.
If it's not there then open the Update Available box, find it among the updates available for download, right-click on it and select Hide. That way it will not download the update.
The problem is I don't know if it will work on Win 8 since it's set up different than Win 7.

 

[Ringel05]

Ahh, found it. Removing the Windows 10 update.

How to uninstall KB3035583 - The Windows 10 Downloader for Windows 7 and 8.1 - Myce.com

 

[Bleipriester]

The Win 10 upgrade will start loading itself automatically after bootup if you don't catch it and stop it

Actually I have (yet another) "update" scheduled to boot up today. Maybe I should deliberately kick it in so I can intercept it? Will that even be possible?

Now I don't know if this will work or not, go to Check for Updates (in Settings since you have Win 8), look for Update History and find update kb3035583. If it's there right click on it and see if it gives you the option to delete it. You may have to find a way to open the updates as Administrator.
If it's not there then open the Update Available box, find it among the updates available for download, right-click on it and select Hide. That way it will not download the update.
The problem is I don't know if it will work on Win 8 since it's set up different than Win 7.

Why are you crawling around at the Settings? You can uninstall updates starting from the explorer or the control panel.