My New Website on Jimmy Carter's Real Record as President

[mikegriffith1]

Sound policies? Like telling US that oil would run out in 10 years and gasoline lines were happening because of the odd/even days?

He never said that. He said that in 10 years the worldwide demand for oil would surpass oil production capacity. Plus, he authorized a historic amount of new oil and natural gas wells, and a huge increase in coal production.

Or when he told US to stand down, because every F-4 was loaded to bomb Tehran out of existence,

Where do you get this?

which allowed Radical Islam to get a foothold in the middle east?

This is beyond overly simplistic.

If the Republican foreign policy elites had not brought enormous pressure on Carter to let the Shah enter the U.S., our hostages never would have been taken in the first place.

Yeah, the term malaise became the new normal with Jimmy the Peanut Carter.

Wrong. Job growth under Carter was actually better than it was under Reagan, Bush Sr., Bush Jr., and Obama. Carter added far less to the national debt per year than did Reagan, both Bushes, Obama, and Trump. Carter paved the way for the economic progress in the 1980s with his massive deregulation.

Carter also paved the way for the taming of inflation with tax cuts, deregulation, and the appointment of Paul Volcker as Fed chairman (remember that interest rates remained in double digits until Reagan's second term).

That was why the actor came in and won in a landslide.

Another overly simplistic statement. The third-party candidate (Anderson) got 6% of the vote and threw several states to Reagan that Carter would have otherwise won. Iran's collusion with Reagan campaign officials to delay the return of the hostages until after the election most likely cost Carter the election.

Even Pat Cadell's internal polling had Carter with a slight lead but with 13% undecided going into the last week of the election. When the false hopes raised by Iran of the imminent return of the hostages failed to materialize, the undecideds broke heavily for Reagan (and some broke for Anderson).

 

[LA RAM FAN]

And what is your basis for saying this? Humm? Actually, I always read both sides, or all sides, before I comment on an issue in a public forum.

Pretty much all the bullshit lies you posted on thst other thread I owned you on exposing your bs.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

He never said that. He said that in 10 years the worldwide demand for oil would surpass oil production capacity. Plus, he authorized a historic amount of new oil and natural gas wells, and a huge increase in coal production.


Where do you get this?


This is beyond overly simplistic.

If the Republican foreign policy elites had not brought enormous pressure on Carter to let the Shah enter the U.S., our hostages never would have been taken in the first place.


Wrong. Job growth under Carter was actually better than it was under Reagan, Bush Sr., Bush Jr., and Obama. Carter added far less to the national debt per year than did Reagan, both Bushes, Obama, and Trump. Carter paved the way for the economic progress in the 1980s with his massive deregulation.

Carter also paved the way for the taming of inflation with tax cuts, deregulation, and the appointment of Paul Volcker as Fed chairman (remember that interest rates remained in double digits until Reagan's second term).


Another overly simplistic statement. The third-party candidate (Anderson) got 6% of the vote and threw several states to Reagan that Carter would have otherwise won. Iran's collusion with Reagan campaign officials to delay the return of the hostages until after the election most likely cost Carter the election.

Even Pat Cadell's internal polling had Carter with a slight lead but with 13% undecided going into the last week of the election. When the false hopes raised by Iran of the imminent return of the hostages failed to materialize, the undecideds broke heavily for Reagan (and some broke for Anderson).

I hate tooting Mike griifths horn Mikeoxenormous obviously,he is a disinfo agent who pretends to be just a casual poster,he is like Alex Jones,controlled opposition acting like just another poster here,he mixes in lies with a lot of truth,but he owned you here,this is one of the rare times he did not mix lies with truth,truth being 100% truthful in this post here,a rarity for him.I hate tooting his own horn but he owned you here and checkmated you.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Pretty much all the bullshit lies you posted on thst other thread I owned you on exposing your bs.

The Reagan thread that I exposed your bs lies about him,ford Jim garrison ect,ect ,you have proven you are the same as Alex Jones, a disinfo agent from Langley who mixes in lies with lots of truth.controlled opposition same as him.you are not transparent as fellow Langley agent soupnazi,your much much more clever than him,everybody here at usmb sees him fir the agent he is,you though,your very clever at fooling people,I give you credit for that. You got most people here fooled Langley agent,but you don’t fool me,I see right through you for the Langley lying agent you are,you exposed what a liar you are on thst Reagan thread of yours to people like me gipper and others who are very well versed on his corruption.

You got most people here fooled I credit you that,but your lies on Reagan,ford,Jim garrison and all thst don’t work on me,I have been at this too long.you don’t got ME fooled as you do everybody else.your lies work on everybody else here,they don’t work on me.

 

[mikegriffith1]

The Reagan thread that I exposed your bs lies about him,ford Jim garrison ect,ect ,you have proven you are the same as Alex Jones, a disinfo agent from Langley who mixes in lies with lots of truth.controlled opposition same as him.you are not transparent as fellow Langley agent soupnazi,your much much more clever than him,everybody here at usmb sees him fir the agent he is,you though,your very clever at fooling people,I give you credit for that. You got most people here fooled Langley agent,but you don’t fool me,I see right through you for the Langley lying agent you are,you exposed what a liar you are on thst Reagan thread of yours to people like me gipper and others who are very well versed on his corruption.

You got most people here fooled I credit you that,but your lies on Reagan,ford,Jim garrison and all thst don’t work on me,I have been at this too long.you don’t got ME fooled as you do everybody else.your lies work on everybody else here,they don’t work on me.

I think this polemic shows that you are on the paranoid-left fringe of the political spectrum. No one is going to take you seriously, unless they are fellow paranoid wokes.

 

[mikegriffith1]

He was a fine President. Like all Presidents I did not agree with him 100% ,but I do believe he had sound policies for the most part but got no support from the Left wing of his Party or the Republicans and treated unfairly by the media.
Back then a lot of folks I knew suspected a coordinated sabotage of his Presidency. Thank you for the thread.

Actually, some of the bills that Carter proposed only got passed thanks to considerable Republican support, because so many Democrats opposed them. He could not have deregulated natural gas and gotten the authority to reduce the federal bureaucracy and reduce federal regulation without Republican support.

my2¢:​

I liked Jimmy Carter but felt the presidency was a bit over his head. Not that he was any worse than what the political parties presented to us last November. The last 2 paragraphs of the website was what provided some hope in America that has been absent these last 8 years.

I think he proved the presidency was not one bit over his head. His record for getting legislation through Congress is one of the best in the modern era. He added far less to the national debt per year than did Reagan, Bush Sr., Bush Jr., Obama, and Trump. He actually cut the deficit and reduced the number of federal employees by about 300,000. He increased defense spending every year. He deployed additional nuke missiles to Europe aimed at the Soviet Union. He presided over a monthly job growth rate that was better than the rate under Reagan, Bush Sr., Bush Jr., Obama, and Trump. He vastly increased oil and natural gas production and opened the entire Alaska coastline to oil and natural gas exploration. And on and on I could go.

If I got to go back in time, I would still vote for Reagan over Mondale in 1984, hands down, but I'm not at all sure that I'd vote for Reagan in 1980 again.

 

[mikegriffith1]

Another interesting fact that refutes the myth that Carter was weak and indecisive: If the Iranians had put the hostages on trial or harmed the hostages, Carter was prepared to not only mine Iran's harbors but to bomb Iran's oil fields and other strategic targets. Carter actually identified the targets that would be bombed. In addition, he contacted the European nations that had relations with Iran and advised them of his intent to mine harbors and bomb strategic targets if the hostages were tried/harmed, and he told them to pass this warning to the Iranian government.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

He never said that. He said that in 10 years the worldwide demand for oil would surpass oil production capacity. Plus, he authorized a historic amount of new oil and natural gas wells, and a huge increase in coal production.


Where do you get this?


This is beyond overly simplistic.

If the Republican foreign policy elites had not brought enormous pressure on Carter to let the Shah enter the U.S., our hostages never would have been taken in the first place.


Wrong. Job growth under Carter was actually better than it was under Reagan, Bush Sr., Bush Jr., and Obama. Carter added far less to the national debt per year than did Reagan, both Bushes, Obama, and Trump. Carter paved the way for the economic progress in the 1980s with his massive deregulation.

Carter also paved the way for the taming of inflation with tax cuts, deregulation, and the appointment of Paul Volcker as Fed chairman (remember that interest rates remained in double digits until Reagan's second term).


Another overly simplistic statement. The third-party candidate (Anderson) got 6% of the vote and threw several states to Reagan that Carter would have otherwise won. Iran's collusion with Reagan campaign officials to delay the return of the hostages until after the election most likely cost Carter the election.

Even Pat Cadell's internal polling had Carter with a slight lead but with 13% undecided going into the last week of the election. When the false hopes raised by Iran of the imminent return of the hostages failed to materialize, the undecideds broke heavily for Reagan (and some broke for Anderson).

Just to let you know, i was at Hahn AFB Germany when the F-4s were fully loaded to bomb Tehran out of existence. Because Jimmy the worthless Carter told US to stand down, Radical Islam said that the US was nothing more than a paper tiger.

 

[mikegriffith1]

Just to let you know, i was at Hahn AFB Germany when the F-4s were fully loaded to bomb Tehran out of existence. Because Jimmy the worthless Carter told US to stand down, Radical Islam said that the US was nothing more than a paper tiger.

That's not going to cut it. Do you have a source that says the F-4s were about to go bomb Tehran? On what authority would they have bombed Tehran? That would have required presidential authorization. Again, let's see a single source that backs up your claim.

Furthermore, in the days and weeks immediately after the hostages were taken, there was every expectation that they would be released quickly, that this was just the action of some local fanatical students who had acted on their own, etc. As we suspected at the time, we now know that the Ayatollah did not know that the radicalized students would storm the U.S. Embassy and take hostages. There was still a functioning provisional government, and the early indications were that the hostages would be released fairly quickly.

And, do you realize that bombing Tehran would have meant the instant death of the hostages? You must understand that we were dealing with religious fanatics, not with rational people. Any military attack on Iran would have meant death to the hostages.

Finally, I repeat that Carter decimated Iran's economy after the Ayatollah announced that the hostages would not be immediately returned. He blocked the purchase of Iranian oil and froze Iranian assets in the U.S. Those assets alone totaled at least 8% of Iran's GDP.