My fellow Conservatives...please read this.

[beagle9]

Anti-interventionism and neo-isolationism will not work, podjos, because we exist in a global economy.

Piss and moan all you want, nothing changes that.

Then corporate slavery is what it will be then, so you enjoy that ok...

 

[beagle9]

It will certainly none of the dunderhead far righties like Santorum, or Perry, or etc.

If they do, I'll just write in Chris Rock since George Carlin is dead. A Carlin administration would have led to some strange and wonderful times. That dude was something else.

"Let's level the Kremlin with drone strikes. Why not?! I don't have a dog in this race. I'm here for the entertainment."

Thats all it is anymore isn't it ? Entertainment and just a big ole party, where we all just live wild and feast, for tommorow we die........................That was tried in the sixties to the extreme (producing the likes of Manson and such), and so how has that worked out for us since ? Now we have the flower power old hippies and the funky bunch occupying the government and whitehouse, it's so wonder that their next step is the legalizing of drugs and gay marriage. Who knew ?

 

[House]

It will certainly none of the dunderhead far righties like Santorum, or Perry, or etc.

If they do, I'll just write in Chris Rock since George Carlin is dead. A Carlin administration would have led to some strange and wonderful times. That dude was something else.

"Let's level the Kremlin with drone strikes. Why not?! I don't have a dog in this race. I'm here for the entertainment."

Thats all it is anymore isn't it ? Entertainment and just a big ole party, where we all just live wild and feast, for tommorow we die........................That was tried in the sixties to the extreme (producing the likes of Manson and such), and so how has that woked out for us since ? Now we have the flower power old hippies and the funky bunch occupying the government and whitehouse, it's so wonder that their next step is the legalizing of drugs and gay marriage. Who knew ?

See? Now you're getting it... and they told me you zealots were beyond help.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Stay on track. We live in a global economy. We can end a lot of the corporate abuse of workers by getting Citizens overturned.

Anti-interventionism and neo-isolationism will not work, podjos, because we exist in a global economy.

Piss and moan all you want, nothing changes that.

Then corporate slavery is what it will be then, so you enjoy that ok...

 

[logical4u]

Let's not invade the rest of the world for awhile and understand that we can no more dominate global economics today than we could in 1929.

We have to work with them.

I know, House, the hyphens confuse you, but this time try, dammit.

I can't afford the $5 words. I only got tree-fiddy.

When have we "invaded the world"?

 

[logical4u]

Anti-interventionism and neo-isolationism will not work, podjos, because we exist in a global economy.

Piss and moan all you want, nothing changes that.

Then corporate slavery is what it will be then, so you enjoy that ok...

So.... instead, you want political leaders to be your master?
At least with corporations, there is a variety. You can choose which one you work for, or since "they didn't build that", you can start your own (if you paint it green, you can even get the tax payer to give you a fortune, so you can declare bankruptcy after collecting the last gov't check).

The gov't only offers 1 master and few choices when it comes to slavery.
Compare store shelves in the USA to any other country. The variety and quantity (and quality) offered has no comparison. That is because soooooo many corporations/small businesses have the freedom to offer products and the consumer chooses those that stay in business (not the gov't).

 

[JakeStarkey]

logical4u, don't even act ignorant, That won't work.

Simple: work with the rest of the world, stop our stupid neo-imperialism, and we will be fine.

 

[logical4u]

logical4u, don't even act ignorant, That won't work.

Simple: work with the rest of the world, stop our stupid neo-imperialism, and we will be fine.

It worked for 2 hundred years! Then the "educated" figured out how to get an easy ride (as rulers), and started working on the transition where instead of people working for themselves and keeping most of what the earn, to working for the gov't and the gov't keeping most of what they earn. But, hey, eliminate the rights of the individual, like that hasn't been tried, AND FAILED F A I L E D, EVERY TIME, EVERY TIME!

 

[JakeStarkey]

That makes no sense, logical4u.

We are in the 21st century not the 18th.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

That makes no sense, logical4u.

We are in the 21st century not the 18th.

Why change the fundamentals of a good thing? Progress isn't always the best thing.

 

[House]

Progress isn't always the best thing.

That has to be about the dumbest thing I've read today.

Progress, by definition, is good. Where you're getting lost in your assertion is that different people have different ideas of what progress truly is.

 

[beagle9]

Anti-interventionism and neo-isolationism will not work, podjos, because we exist in a global economy.

Piss and moan all you want, nothing changes that.

Then corporate slavery is what it will be then, so you enjoy that ok...

So.... instead, you want political leaders to be your master?
At least with corporations, there is a variety. You can choose which one you work for, or since "they didn't build that", you can start your own (if you paint it green, you can even get the tax payer to give you a fortune, so you can declare bankruptcy after collecting the last gov't check).

The gov't only offers 1 master and few choices when it comes to slavery.
Compare store shelves in the USA to any other country. The variety and quantity (and quality) offered has no comparison. That is because soooooo many corporations/small businesses have the freedom to offer products and the consumer chooses those that stay in business (not the gov't).

No, what I mean by slavery (modern day), is that we will be soon producing at the same levels in pay and benefits if they have their way (cheap labor), because they are unionized at the top levels in corporate thinking across the boards, and then they have government in their pockets in which helps them mash us down to the levels in which they want us at in the end. I mean this has become the problem right now in which Americans see, and are fighting about in America. The corporations have over produced in the world, and laughingly everyone is to broke in the end to seriously buy the products in which they had over produced. It has went on for years in this way, until it finally has all come to a head because the proper balancing got so far out of whack.

Yes there is a variety in corporations out there, and yes we have a choice to work for this one or that one still, but if they are getting together and looking at us as cheap labor to exploit or use up in the global economy and/or for the global economy to thrive for them, then we are caught in a corporate run socialistic/communistic stype of operations as laborers being run. They are elliminating small businesses by the thousands, so running to that safe haven is fading fast also for the American worker, and have you checked lately on how much it cost to start your own business ? Then you have the local government boards who place all kinds of regulations and red tape in the way, because they are protecting the monopolies/corporations from future competition, so they deny permits and regulate the small businessman out of business before he can even get started, and if he does get started, then he doesn't last long at all. Greed and corporate greed has created many problems in America, and especially out in the world, but our government and corporate propaghanda machines have worked overtime to keep us at bay, in the dark and confused in the whole ordeal so far.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Progress isn't always the best thing.

That has to be about the dumbest thing I've read today.

Progress, by definition, is good. Where you're getting lost in your assertion is that different people have different ideas of what progress truly is.

Then your clueless
Russia progressed form serfdom to communism was that a good thing?
Creating welfare is progress but when the progress made makes the safety net a Hammock is that progress good or bad?
As I said progress is not always a good thing.
Question if a train moves forward it's progressing but what if the tracks aren't finished yet? Is that progress a good thing or bad thing?

 

[logical4u]

That makes no sense, logical4u.

We are in the 21st century not the 18th.

You and "sense" don't exactly go together.

"Work" will always be required for man's survival. It seems the issue today is: if the individual gets to choose who they work for:
the gov't, a corporation, or themselves
vs:
the gov't (rules and regulations added making products, services and systems inefficient and slow)

It "appears" that those on the left (that would be "you", even though you throw out some moderate view, occassionally) want to remove "free choice" from individuals, and replace it with gov't "chains" and shackles.

Now if that is not easy enough for you to understand, here is a question for you: how have "people" changed in 3 hundred years to justify eliminating a system that has proven itself and replacing it with systems that have been proven to fail.
Do people have more integrity than they did in the last 3 hundred years?
Are there still people that would rather drink (or do drugs) than work?
Do people still need energy (manpower, hydro, electric, or petro) to accomplish work?

Come on, brain child, explain why we should desert a system that built this country into the most productive, the most generous country in the world, for a system that ruins cultures and countries, EVERYWHERE, it is implemented.

 

[logical4u]

Progress isn't always the best thing.

That has to be about the dumbest thing I've read today.

Progress, by definition, is good. Where you're getting lost in your assertion is that different people have different ideas of what progress truly is.

"Progress" towards what?

Progress toward third world?
Progress toward corruption?
Progress toward inequality?

Progress is not always "good".

 

[House]

Then your clueless

Not really, you're just abusing a perfectly good word in order to twist it into your own worldview.

Russia progressed form serfdom to communism was that a good thing?

If you consider that progress, more power to ya. Just because something changes over a period of time doesn't mean the change is progress.

Creating welfare is progress but when the progress made makes the safety net a Hammock is that progress good or bad?

Here's another flaw in your perspective. Just because you view something as progress when it starts out doesn't mean that everything associated with it from that point is progress.

As I said progress is not always a good thing.

As I said, that has to be the dumbest thing I've read today. Well, the 2nd dumbest thing, right behind trying to justify the remark.

Question if a train moves forward it's progressing but what if the tracks aren't finished yet? Is that progress a good thing or bad thing?

You're confused. Progress is moving forward to a desirable goal. If the tracks are broken, the train is obviously no longer making progress. Faulty planning and execution = not progress.

 

[logical4u]

Then corporate slavery is what it will be then, so you enjoy that ok...

So.... instead, you want political leaders to be your master?
At least with corporations, there is a variety. You can choose which one you work for, or since "they didn't build that", you can start your own (if you paint it green, you can even get the tax payer to give you a fortune, so you can declare bankruptcy after collecting the last gov't check).

The gov't only offers 1 master and few choices when it comes to slavery.
Compare store shelves in the USA to any other country. The variety and quantity (and quality) offered has no comparison. That is because soooooo many corporations/small businesses have the freedom to offer products and the consumer chooses those that stay in business (not the gov't).

No, what I mean by slavery (modern day), is that we will be soon producing at the same levels in pay and benefits if they have their way (cheap labor), because they are unionized at the top levels in corporate thinking across the boards, and then they have government in their pockets in which helps them mash us down to the levels in which they want us at in the end. I mean this has become the problem right now in which Americans see, and are fighting about in America. The corporations have over produced in the world, and laughingly everyone is to broke in the end to seriously buy the products in which they had over produced. It has went on for years in this way, until it finally has all come to a head because the proper balancing got so far out of whack.

Yes there is a variety in corporations out there, and yes we have a choice to work for this one or that one still, but if they are getting together and looking at us as cheap labor to exploit or use up in the global economy and/or for the global economy to thrive for them, then we are caught in a corporate run socialistic/communistic stype of operations as laborers being run. They are elliminating small businesses by the thousands, so running to that safe haven is fading fast also for the American worker, and have you checked lately on how much it cost to start your own business ? Then you have the local government boards who place all kinds of regulations and red tape in the way, because they are protecting the monopolies/corporations from future competition, so they deny permits and regulate the small businessman out of business before he can even get started, and if he does get started, then he doesn't last long at all. Greed and corporate greed has created many problems in America, and especially out in the world, but our government and corporate propaghanda machines have worked overtime to keep us at bay, in the dark and confused in the whole ordeal so far.

Then let's work on equality of rules and regulations, instead of allowing the "gov't" to choose which companies "are too big to fail", or which ones get tax dollars.

 

[beagle9]

Progress isn't always the best thing.

That has to be about the dumbest thing I've read today.

Progress, by definition, is good. Where you're getting lost in your assertion is that different people have different ideas of what progress truly is.

Ok, so different people have different ideas of what progress is, but where it has all gone wrong for this nation, is when voter suppresion is found in everything we see anymore, and not just during these big elections do we see it anymore, but we see it big time now with the minority over riding the majority on a daily basis as found on the many issues, and this they are able to do because they won't allow a vote to take place upon many of the issues, thus using lawyers and judges to get the job done by bullying what they want until they get their way against us (the good moral majority). Now we have a shadow immoral minority that controls the good moral majority with their learned shadowy ways, so welcome to any place on earth you want to call this place anymore, except that of America, because America no longer exist for the good moral majority as of 2008.

 

[beagle9]

Progress isn't always the best thing.

That has to be about the dumbest thing I've read today.

Progress, by definition, is good. Where you're getting lost in your assertion is that different people have different ideas of what progress truly is.

Then your clueless
Russia progressed form serfdom to communism was that a good thing?
Creating welfare is progress but when the progress made makes the safety net a Hammock is that progress good or bad?
As I said progress is not always a good thing.
Question if a train moves forward it's progressing but what if the tracks aren't finished yet? Is that progress a good thing or bad thing?

Very good....

 

[House]

Progress isn't always the best thing.

That has to be about the dumbest thing I've read today.

Progress, by definition, is good. Where you're getting lost in your assertion is that different people have different ideas of what progress truly is.

Ok, so different people have different ideas of what progress is, but where it has all gone wrong for this nation, is when voter suppresion is found in everything we see anymore, and not just during these big elections do we see it anymore, but we see it big time now with the minority over riding the majority on a daily basis as found on the many issues, and this they are able to do because they won't allow a vote to take place upon many of the issues, thus using lawyers and judges to get the job done by bullying what they want until they get their way against us (the good moral majority). Now we have a shadow immoral minority that controls the good moral majority with their learned shadowy ways, so welcome to any place on earth you want to call this place anymore, except that of America, because America no longer exist for the good moral majority as of 2008.

I don't give a damn about your argument. I was talking about the bastardization of a perfectly fine word, if that wasn't quite obvious by my previous two posts.