Muslim foreigner arrested for planning Oct 7 mass shooting at NYC Jewish Center

[Lisa558]

never?

I’m sure she went to Sunday School at some point, or at least to church.

 

[irosie91]

In my experience the only terror plots that the FBI thwarts are the ones they hatch.

You have such an experience?

 

[candycorn]

While leftists insist that foreign-born Muslims are not anti-Jew, the fact remains that many, and more likely MOST are, and we owe the Jewish citizens of this country more concern than we do Muslim “refugees” from Arab countries since it is impossible to vet them.

This particular Muslim immigrant to Canada (which is a liberal country as well) had plotted a mass shooting at a NYC Jewish Community Center, but fortunately his terrorist attack was thwarted. Thank Gd.

Pakistani National Charged For Plotting Terrorist Attack In New York City In Support Of ISIS

Damian Williams, the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York; Merrick B. Garland, the Attorney General of the United States; Christopher Wray, the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (“FBI”); and Christie M. Curtis, the Acting Assistant Director in Charge of the...

www.justice.gov

Another win for the good guys.

But don’t you think its ironic that the administration you castigate dishonestly as being anti-jew is prosecuting this muslim slime ball? Why would they do such a thing unless you were completely and wholly full of shit?

 

[irosie91]

Another win for the good guys.

But don’t you think its ironic that the administration you castigate dishonestly as being anti-jew is prosecuting this muslim slime ball? Why would they do such a thing unless you were completely and wholly full of shit?

silly response---there is just so much that can be brushed under the rug

 

[candycorn]

silly response---there is just so much that can be brushed under the rug

Yeah...the world had stopped to wait to see what the DOJ was going to do in this case...

 

[candycorn]

In my experience the only terror plots that the FBI thwarts are the ones they hatch.

Shows that you have no experience.

 

[irosie91]

Shows that you have no experience.

You do?

 

[candycorn]

You do?

Enough to know that the FBI isn’t creating terrorist plots.

 

[irosie91]

Enough to know that the FBI isn’t creating terrorist plots.

oh----I had no such suspicion---not The FBI

 

[Z99]

Enough to know that the FBI isn’t creating terrorist plots.

Sucker.

 

[irosie91]

Sucker.

You have some unique insight and information?

 

[Z99]

You have some unique insight and information?

The FBI has a long and sordid history of creating terror plots using some idiot that they find and making him the "terrorist".

 

[Lisa558]

Israel's. Israel is a state and Jewish people are people. It is weird that you constantly imply they are a single entity.

Then why did you just blame Jews for “creating Muslim terrorists”?

 

[irosie91]

The FBI has a long and sordid history of creating terror plots using some idiot that they find and making him the "terrorist".

Israel's actions inspiring so many people to become terrorists that try to kill Americans is my main problem with Israel

Your statement belies your ignorance of WORLD HISTORY and of the many religion galvanized genocides, historically. There was
terrorism long before 1948. Did you miss the murder of more than a million Biafran christian infants? Pol Pot? Bangla Desh---just to mention a few in the recent past? Israel's actions have nothing to do with terrorism. In fact christians have been murdering jews for the past 15 centuries---nothing to do with "actions" As to muslims murdering---that started with the inception of that religion---
a bit more than 14 centuries ago

 

[irosie91]

" Careful Or Someone Will Quote The Doctrine "

* Accommodation Through Dumbing Down History *

Should 1400 years of homicide by doctrine by fictional ishmaelism be ignored ?

Augustine---why do you laugh at the allusion to homicide based on what the poster calls
"FICTIONAL ISHMAELISM"?

 

[Coyote]

You don’t respond to statements, some that occur right in a thread you are participating in, that smears Jews.

Hold your horses a moment. Am I expected to respond to everything here just because you think I should?

Do you apply the same standard to yourself..do you respond to every statement that smears Blacks? Or Muslims? But you think I should…because…?

Just as an fyi - most stuff is better off IGNORED here.

You skip right over them because you want the attacks to continue, and perhaps you even agree with them. The ONLY statement you said “wow” to was when that one antisemite said we should Third Reich all of Israel.

I “skip” over a lot of trash from a lot creeps and trolls Lisa. A word of advice: first, follow your own standard…then demand it of others.

None of the above makes one antisemitic.

Your double standards are appalling. You are inflamed because I pointed out the danger of radicalized Muslims sneaking in - in regard to that scumbag planning to shoot up the NYC Jewish Center - and yet allow the most heinous slurs against Jews to continue.

Oh good grief. Let me know when you apply the same zeal against hate directed at Blacks or Muslims. You pick and choose your standards and how they are applied.

Antisemitic statements are any that:

1) Call a Jew a Nazi, Hitler, or Himmler

If people can call other people those things, then why not Jews? Why is it ok to call others Nazi’s? Jews aren’t any more exempt from being jerks, intolerant, bigoted, hateful than any other group of humans. It isn’t antisemitic, but it is ignorant as are most comparisons to the Nazis.

2) Say that Israel is like Nazi Germany

That isn’t antisemitic, it is just stupid.

3) Spread the blood libel of “genocide” as propaganda

Strongly disagree, because you are essentially giving Israel a special status that exempts it from accusations of genocide, something no other country is exempt from.

People use genocide carelessly, even ignorantly, not every bloodbath is genocide, but it isn’t antisemitic to make that accusation.

All this meet the definition of antisemitism and should be disallowed in this site.

It most certainly does not meet the definition of antisemitism and by pushing this you are attempting to stifle any criticism of Israel and put Israel into a special status no other nation occupies.

In the flip side, expressing opposition to AA and DEI programs, which take race as a major factor and are unfair to whites, is NOT racist - and you should stop calling people racist for saying so.

That isn’t what I’ve called out as racist…it’s constant negative focus on one race that underlies the arguments.

On one hand, you defend those making antisemitic slurs and statements as not being antisemitic, and on the other, you label as “racist” people who object to race-based hiring practices,

Are you talking about your new and expanded definition of antisemitism? …what statements have I defended?

I KNOW what is going on right now.

Sure.

 

[Lisa558]

Hold your horses a moment. Am I expected to respond to everything here just because you think I should?

Do you apply the same standard to yourself..do you respond to every statement that smears Blacks? Or Muslims? But you think I should…because…?

Just as an fyi - most stuff is better off IGNORED here.



I “skip” over a lot of trash from a lot creeps and trolls Lisa. A word of advice: first, follow your own standard…then demand it of others.

None of the above makes one antisemitic.



Oh good grief. Let me know when you apply the same zeal against hate directed at Blacks or Muslims. You pick and choose your standards and how they are applied.



If people can call other people those things, then why not Jews? Why is it ok to call others Nazi’s? Jews aren’t any more exempt from being jerks, intolerant, bigoted, hateful than any other group of humans. It isn’t antisemitic, but it is ignorant as are most comparisons to the Nazis.




That isn’t antisemitic, it is just stupid.



Strongly disagree, because you are essentially giving Israel a special status that exempts it from accusations of genocide, something no other country is exempt from.

People use genocide carelessly, even ignorantly, not every bloodbath is genocide, but it isn’t antisemitic to make that accusation.



It most certainly does not meet the definition of antisemitism and by pushing this you are attempting to stifle any criticism of Israel and put Israel into a special status no other nation occupies.


That isn’t what I’ve called out as racist…it’s constant negative focus on one race that underlies the arguments.




Are you talking about your new and expanded definition of antisemitism? Or real antisemitism? If the latter…what statements have I defended?



Sure.

I’m not going to work all the way through all this because….i don’t wanna….except for one point: calling blacks or gays “Nazis” does nto carry the same intended pain meant specifically for Jews, and you know why. Stop blaming dumb.

Calling Jews “Nazis” or comparing Israel to Nazi Germany is antisemitic.

 

[Lisa558]

Hold your horses a moment. Am I expected to respond to everything here just because you think I should?

Do you apply the same standard to yourself..do you respond to every statement that smears Blacks? Or Muslims? But you think I should…because…?

Just as an fyi - most stuff is better off IGNORED here.



I “skip” over a lot of trash from a lot creeps and trolls Lisa. A word of advice: first, follow your own standard…then demand it of others.

None of the above makes one antisemitic.



Oh good grief. Let me know when you apply the same zeal against hate directed at Blacks or Muslims. You pick and choose your standards and how they are applied.



If people can call other people those things, then why not Jews? Why is it ok to call others Nazi’s? Jews aren’t any more exempt from being jerks, intolerant, bigoted, hateful than any other group of humans. It isn’t antisemitic, but it is ignorant as are most comparisons to the Nazis.




That isn’t antisemitic, it is just stupid.



Strongly disagree, because you are essentially giving Israel a special status that exempts it from accusations of genocide, something no other country is exempt from.

People use genocide carelessly, even ignorantly, not every bloodbath is genocide, but it isn’t antisemitic to make that accusation.



It most certainly does not meet the definition of antisemitism and by pushing this you are attempting to stifle any criticism of Israel and put Israel into a special status no other nation occupies.


That isn’t what I’ve called out as racist…it’s constant negative focus on one race that underlies the arguments.




Are you talking about your new and expanded definition of antisemitism? …what statements have I defended?



Sure.

P.S. I gather you are arguing to allow in antisemitic terms due to your smack about my “new and expanded” definition of antidemitism. It is not MY definition. It is the definition accepted by the U.S. Department of State, and accepted by 150+ countries worldwide.

I gather you want this site to allow antisemitic terms to be hurled at Jews. I do not, and in keeping with the announcement that we would have a site less tolerant of antisemitism, I suggest we prohibit these major venomous antisemitic slurs and blood libel.

(The genocide lie qualifies as blood libel.)

 

[Coyote]

I’m not going to work all the way through all this because….i don’t wanna….

Of course you won’t. You never do.

except for one point: calling blacks or gays “Nazis” does nto carry the same intended pain meant specifically for Jews, and you know why. Stop blaming dumb.

Fair point when it comes to individuals, but states aren’t individuals.

Calling Jews “Nazis” or comparing Israel to Nazi Germany is antisemitic.

I can see your point on calling Jews Nazi’s, it would be like calling Blacks slavers. But I do not see that in regards to a nation unless by doing so they are collectively accusing all Jews.

 

[Coyote]

P.S. I gather you are arguing to allow in antisemitic terms due to your smack about my “new and expanded” definition of antidemitism. It is not MY definition. It is the definition accepted by the U.S. Department of State, and accepted by 150+ countries worldwide.

It is a brand new and expanded definition that is effectively being used to insulate Israel from the same criticism that other nations endure.

I gather you want this site to allow antisemitic terms to be hurled at Jews. I do not, and in keeping with the announcement that we would have a site less tolerant of antisemitism, I suggest we prohibit these major venomous antisemitic slurs and blood libel.

(The genocide lie qualifies as blood libel.)

So are you saying people can not be allowed to accuse Israel of genocide?

Can we accuse Turkey of genocide?

How about Russia?

Can we accuse Italy of genocide?

And…what if Israel actually did commit genocide? We can’t say it?